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    Airasia, Airasia X, Fax And Mas

    Howdy howdy!!!!...Anyone realise that suddenly AirAsia kept mum of its AirAsia X? Maybe it's a scam and will never happen. It's already March and still no sound yet. MAS also seemed to have something called Firefly as read in NST soon. Hmmm...wondering the stock market has any effect on this.

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    i tot...JULY?????
    WheRe aRt ThOu?!

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    AirasiaX service postponed/delayed till next year August 08. Could'nt get planes on time.

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    Thumbs down What!!!!!

    That is truly horrible news smoothhead...aiseh, apamacam dah jadi. I gues AirAsiaX are just too ambitious and spoiling their own credibility. Hopefully someone looks at this. Heard that Airasia even cut frequenceis in Sabah and Sarawak and their FX is doing a worse off service taking over MAS' fokkers and twin otters

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothead
    AirasiaX service postponed/delayed till next year August 08. Could'nt get planes on time.
    I suspect that it's more to do with getting traffic rights from Msia to the international destinations that Tony F has in mind. I believe that Msia has used up all the assigned flight frequencies to the UK, Australia and India.

    Most probably the Msian govt will have to go back to negotiate "open skies" agreements with all these countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirgalahad2010
    I suspect that it's more to do with getting traffic rights from Msia to the international destinations that Tony F has in mind. I believe that Msia has used up all the assigned flight frequencies to the UK, Australia and India.

    Most probably the Msian govt will have to go back to negotiate "open skies" agreements with all these countries.
    u reckon?

    perhaps you are tony's confidante and PR in this forum or behind the scene special adviser to the malaysian government on our country's aviation policy

    kudos to you and your illuminating analysis of malaysia and her impending open 'skies' policies

    FYI,long haul low cost flights is not a proven business model.HK's new entrant to this cut throat long haul low cost carrier business is haemorrhaging profusely and most industry players has already written the airline off not unsimilar to lakers of the 70's

    perhaps thats the reason they are postponing the inevitable.

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    This article is from this source: http://www.theedgedaily.com

    08-03-2007: FAX postpones long-haul services by as long as a year

    Fly Asian Xpress (FAX) has postponed its long-haul budget services by as long as a year as it cannot get the aircraft it needs to start operations in July, said FAX shareholder Datuk Tony Fernandes.

    “We can't find the planes. AirAsia X will definitely start at the latest in August 2008. If they can find planes before then, they will start, otherwise they won't,'' Fernandes, who owns 10% of FAX, told Bloomberg in Singapore on March 8.

    He said FAX planned to order 15 twin-aisle aircraft from Airbus SAS or Boeing Co, valued at as much as US$2.9 billion (RM10.17 billion) at list prices. He said AirAsia X, the new airline, would pick Boeing's 777-200 or the A330-300 aircraft by Airbus.

    Flights were initially scheduled to start in July after FAX in January won government approval to begin services. AirAsia X had planned to lease two or three planes this year and purchase more for delivery in 2008.

    Meanwhile, Fernandes, who is also AirAsia Bhd’s chief executive officer, said the budget carrier would need to buy more planes to meet rising travel demand.

    It already has total firm orders for 150 aircraft. AirAsia expects a 50% rise in passenger traffic this year, driven by demand in Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia.

    The carrier expected to hedge 100% of its fuel needs this year and had hedged 80% of its requirement this quarter, Fernandes said.

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    Angry

    Wow.....that is truly bad news. I think that T Fernandes should stop pulling everyone's leg and start improving what he has. I think for starters, there is a very urgent need for queing systems at the gate. Also, the allowing of all states to negotiate directly with airlines. We note from last weekend's papers that Dragonair will ply KK and HK daily. Why not Kuching and Penang as well? MAS has done well but I think the policies are drawn at the ministry's levels as they control the skies. No use talking and talking and nothing done. The issue of protecting is ridiculous. We had KLIA since 1998 and 10 years down, we still have not gone anywhere but attarcting ARAB flights.

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    Low load factor coupled with low yield, of coz many airlines r not interested in coming here. Those who had withdrawn their flight services also hesistate to resume their flights in KLIA, even Msia Airport Berhad & our gomen r giving concessions like free landing, free parking etc also doesnt seem to attract many airlines flying here.

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    airasia-x? the news excited the share market for a while and the Pak Ham*n sold his entire stake. Coincidence? think my frens..think..who made the money? It is all about manipulation, a case of the smart ones "eat" the misinformed ones!

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    Yeah, guess so....make money then quit. same script. Now they got Tune Hotels...and Tune money next....what else? Tune Buses? Tune Resort? Tune Guidebooks? Tune Travel Show?

    Hopefully MAS will be able to do something and that perhaps, Jetstar with the new KL-Sydney route in September would be a shot in the arm. Enough said.

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    This just in. Mas has launched Firefly, their new low cost airline. They will operate out of Penang Airport with Fokker F50s.

    They just hv to get in on the act. Then, why did they relinquish domestic routes to Airasia in the first place? Why the change of strategy now? conflicting directions in the air transport policies?
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    Yup..Firefly. the website is at www.fireflyz.com.my. Well, at least they are creative in using an insect that illuminates the dark...maybe we need a torch to take us out! This is a slo good as we can rest assured Tony will not rest on his laurels and maybe have flights to Ipoh and Melaka as well with a base from LCCT or even the base in Ipoh to Penang and Poh to Melaka as well as LCCT to Ipoh and LCCT to Melaka and Pulau Redang, Tioman....

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    Yup.....finally we have firefly. The website looks and is very easy to use. Though not possible to book yet, but they have really prepared for this with the website 100% done except for electronic booking. That says alot about the new management running this though a subsidiary of MAS. Now, one ponders, is ASMARA AIR real? I guess we have to find out as I hear Firefly and Asmara are not the same..... As for AirAsia X, yeah, blame it on the planes, why don't they get Boeings instead of blaming the A380 for Airbus' delay in other crafts? Hmmmmm......I think MAS and Firefly are actually pulling their act together. For AirAsia and FAX, they better move fast....Heard that Tiger Air of Singapore would be ready to start Australia from Singapore on a full throttle. They already fly to Darwin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarawakian
    Yup.....finally we have firefly. The website looks and is very easy to use. Though not possible to book yet, but they have really prepared for this with the website 100% done except for electronic booking. That says alot about the new management running this though a subsidiary of MAS. Now, one ponders, is ASMARA AIR real? I guess we have to find out as I hear Firefly and Asmara are not the same..... As for AirAsia X, yeah, blame it on the planes, why don't they get Boeings instead of blaming the A380 for Airbus' delay in other crafts? Hmmmmm......I think MAS and Firefly are actually pulling their act together. For AirAsia and FAX, they better move fast....Heard that Tiger Air of Singapore would be ready to start Australia from Singapore on a full throttle. They already fly to Darwin. :confused:
    Tiger Air is starting Spore-Perth flights before end-March 2007, initially 4 flights per week.

    For AirAsia X, it's not so much a question of shortage of planes as a refusal to pay exorbitant leasing charges for Boeing or Airbus aircraft that are in demand because of all the start-up budget airlines in Asia and mainstream airlines refleeting. Credit Tony F and his colleagues with a hard-headed business realism - they will only start Airasia X if they can get the aircraft at leasing rates consonant with their financial projections.

    Now, if only MAS's previous managements had been as financially conservative (and tight-fisted), the airline would be in a much better position now.

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