http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/n...cle/index_html
Industry Source say it would cost 3 or 4 sen more per litre. If this is enforced within next month, be prepared for a petrol price increase.
Budiman
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/n...cle/index_html
Industry Source say it would cost 3 or 4 sen more per litre. If this is enforced within next month, be prepared for a petrol price increase.
Budiman
Another round of increase in the guise of cleaner fuels?
Budiman
In guise? Hello - did someone pull a blanket over our eyes...Originally Posted by saml
It was due anyway, every one had predicted it would come..
just the manner it is being done is really really brilliant...
Budiman
Why is it that people still think that we live independently from the environment? You think global warming and climate change can be blamed on the government? Do you seriously think we can all drive around in environmentally-polluting vehicles without paying a price for it?this time blame it on Mother Nature...
That being said, having a lower sulphur content helps a *bit*, though it's too little too late. The time for mitigation was decades ago. The horses have already bolted and we're barely closing the barn doors.
Budiman
There are many ways to pollute the enviroment la... Nobody said we can live independantly of the enviroment... heck, buying a newspaper = paper from trees, waste water from processing paper out of trees and what nots... this thread was started to highlight about a possible higher fuel price coming with cleaner fuel... what I meant was; the govt is now using this as a reason (?)now to hike the fuel prices while other countries in the region are lowering their fuel prices... not right, isn't it...
ps... throwing a french cap down the toilet bowl can also pollute the enviroment... notwithstanding a blocked sewage tank, over time !!!
Budiman
They cant just raise the price now that the world prices of oil are dropping. Whilst the actual cost of putting in cleaner fuel may be say 2 sen per liter, you can expect the price increase to be maybe 6 or 8 sens a liter. I may seem to be cynical but everything that our garmen does, it does with an 'angle' for something. There is no such thing as a free lunch or anything done purely for the rakyat's sake.
Budiman
True. But when you say "this time blame it on Mother Nature... she demands that WE ALL PAY for a lower sulphur content, thus highr fuel prices..." it sounds to me that you seem to have this sense of entitlement to how you live irrespective of how Mother Nature works. Truth is, we all DO have to pay for lower sulphur content, and a heck of a lot more if we plan to be around here for the next 100 years.
Getting back on track, you're saying we should have cleaner fuel for no extra charge? Like saml said, there's no free lunch. Want cheaper fuel? Deal with increased consumption and eventually, environmental degradation. Want cleaner tech? Pay for it. (Okay, now that sounded a bit too much like Mr. Samy Vellu there...)
Budiman
looks like the gomen wont cut back on the subsidy right away (thereby getting fuel prices at the pump to increase).
Got to remember, you are not going to pay higher fuel prices...you are going to pay more because the subsidy is being reduced...there is a difference...
I fully agree with the reduction in subsidies over time...especially if you can say that the reduction is for a good reason.
A decrease of sulfur content from 0.3 to 0.05 is significant for Malaysia and it will lead to improved air...which is great
now if they can only get rid of the 2 stroke, and oil burning, polluting motorcycles
Cheers, m
The world needs more Canada
Budiman
When did I say ... blame it on Mother Nature? Did I blame Mother Nature... I was referring to the Govt da... the Govt, our Govt... using Mother Nature as an excuse for a price hike...
And by the way, I like to quote this ".... it sounds to me that you seem to have this sense of entitlement to how you live... " Being pretty judgmental isn't it... when you have never seen the insides of my house, how I shop sans plastiques, and recycle or dispose ALL my batteries responsibly... etc... etc... Then again... by being human, we all contribute to enviromental pollution - direct or indirectly...
And by the way, I oso oredi hit 40... I don't think I would be around or plan to be around for the next 100 years...The thought of paying toll (for the next 50-100 yrs) to Samy's heirs is just too ...
Budiman
USJ27Resident, of course you said blame it on Mother Nature. It's riiiight there in your very first posting on this thread!
Of course, I don't know how you (or anyone else in the forums, really!) live your lives, aside from what each and every one of us write in our post. A person's impression is just as powerful a force as how a person lives. Whether it matters or not, that's really up to us...
Most likely, none of us here posting would be around here in 100 years. But what about your children? Or your grand-children?
Budiman
This is a cop-out sentence. Ever since I've joined the forums, I've noticed a LOT of people using this sort of tactics to absolve themselves of whatever they write.
Similarly, I could also just say. How would you know I'm judgemental, when you've never talked to me personally, etc. etc., that's pretty judgemental in itself isn't it?
Thing is, you're actually right there. I AM judgemental. All of us are. Truth is, we're all deluding ourselves to think that we're NOT judgemental. We all form opinions on people based on what they say/do/act. Being judgemental isn't a bad thing either, neither is it good. It's just....human.
Sorry for going off-topic.
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