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soon malaysia will become another country run by talibans
Budiman
..if not alreadyOriginally Posted by firefox
It's better to be poor than to be rich. The rich always have to fear becoming poor, but the poor never have to fear becoming rich.
Budiman
No. That is just one lecturer's views. Many people has many views on this matter, luckily he is not someone in a position of power to change the law.
Budiman
yeah, today. but tomorrow?
It's better to be poor than to be rich. The rich always have to fear becoming poor, but the poor never have to fear becoming rich.
Budiman
Ouote from the article:
"The Quranic verse ‘There is no compulsion in religion’ does not mean that a Muslim can leave Islam as he wishes, it means that non-Muslims cannot be forced to enter Islam."
Then why in Malaysia non-Muslims are forced to when they fall in love and want to marry Muslims?
Budiman
Because it is also, if not more for the Muslim bride/groom. If a Muslim marries a non-muslim who does not convert to Islam, then their marriage is not recognized by Islam, which means everyday the Muslim bride/groom would be committing adultery and sin, which means their children will be bastards, which means their children is not eligible for inheritance (unless specified by will), and ultimately, it will mean that the Muslim bride/groom is condemned to hell in the after life. That's why this issue is a big deal to Muslims. No Muslim parents would want to put their children in this position.
Budiman
But so far, from what I understand, this is a ruling only in Malaysia. My cousins have married Indonesian Muslims and no conversion was necessary there. And its beautiful to see such harmonious Catholic & Muslim families living in peace. Some converted to Islam by their own free will. But they were not forced to when they decided to marry.
So how? Why different interpretation in Indonesia?
Budiman
nope...Islam doesnt apply that way. Many muslims, especially in the early days of Islam, were specifically instructed NOT to divorce their spouses (who were not muslim) or attempt to forcibly convert their children to Islam.
According to Islam, Muslims are required/expected to marry people from the "Ahli Kitab" (People's of the Book) which are the followers of monotheistic (one God) religions. This includes Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Marriage to people who are polytheistic (many gods e.g. Hindu, Taoist) or others (e.g. Shinto, Buddhist) would not be allowed.
It is said specifically is that it would be better for a muslim to marry a muslim over a Christian or Jew, but it is not said that it is a sin.
If muslims choose to add to the original teachings (and make things even more restrictive) they should realize that they are committing Bid'a (human innovations on God's words) which is not acceptable in Islam.
I think that the conversion in/out is mostly a numbers game...the Malaysian gov't and the religious peoples feel better saying that there are 1 billion muslims in the world...even if 1/2 of them arent practicing.
Cheers, m
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