Aircond installation cost - what is the fair price?
Some electrical shop quoted RM800 for installation of 1HP aircond, which include black hoist , water pipe and wiring. If you buy aircond from Jusco (IOI mall), the installation cost is only RM200. That's a big difference. Has anyone purchased airconds from Jusco before? How's the service and hidden costs? What's the normal rate for aircond installation?
Didn't purchase from Jusco b4, but only inquired about it b4.
Their installation rate of RM200 should be standard industry rate(installation for no taller than double storey house, 10ft run of piping, no hacking required except to punch a hole thru the walls) They subcontract the job to external aircond installers, just like most electrical shops.
I dunno how you got quotation for Rm800 per unit! I suspect either:
-your piping run will be extremely long,
-you live in a high rise condo;
-they include hacking the walls to conceal the piping, patch it back and repaint the walls;
-they had to pull an additional 15A electrical outlet for u or something else.
Which was it?
The thing is, the electrical shop didn't even ask if I lived in condo or link house before giving the quotation (my house is a double story link house by the way). The quoted price did include the electrical wiring, but it is only surface wiring with no hacking on wall. To pull the wire shouldn't cost RM600, right?
I started asking around because my contractor quoted me RM1900 to install 1HP York aircond, and RM2900 for 2HP York aircond. I thought the price is expensive, that's when I start to shop around to check the prices. One electrical shop gave me a similar price RM800 for installation. The cheapest so far is Jusco, but Jusco doesn't sell York airconds.
Maybe the shops were trying to boost their margins since the split unit prices are sooo low nowadays. Have u checked with the a/c shop in Taipan called Jetcool? http://www.jetcool.com.my/profile.html They seem to be a reputable company.
I would also check with Tan Boon Ming of Old Klang Road where I buy my major appliances but haven't done bought any a/c for last 5-6 yrs so no idea what is their labor rate nowadays. They have a separate outlet next door to main showroom selling only airconds. http://tbm.com.my/
These are full sales and service outlets. You can also opt to buy the units from a shop which offers the best price, and call an independent installer to fix it.
I have an a/c installer's phone no, but I haven't dealt with him for a few years so dunno if he's increase prices or not, nvr had problems with my a/c mar..... PM me if you need it.
last year i was charged rm150 for:
- uninstall from old hse
- chemical service
- install in new hse
My understanding is that if you ask the installers to buy the unit on your behalf, you get a better price. At least, that's what my aircon installer told me, AFTER I'd bought the AC. I can give you the tel contact if you like. Pls PM me if you're looking for a reliable aircon installer.
cost of air cond installation
I am a interior designer so the price below is the average given by certified electricians to me assuming you have ready power point and air-cond with built-in starter:-
1hp - RM180 to RM200 (back to back)
1.5hp to 2hp - RM220 to RM260 (back to back)
If you live in a condo or have a space whereby you cannot install the blower and the compressor unit back to back, any additional copper piping with insulation will cost something like RM40 to RM45 per foot run.
Plus, if you had bought the air-cond from a air-cond dealer, the steel mounting brackets will be provided.
The cost increase is due to the rise of metal such as steel, copper and brass.
Sometimes I do not understand what the heck is going on with the metal prices as well...for example if copper increases 50%, that is only the raw material. By that i mean, labour and cost to run machinery to produce the product remains the same but lately simple things like a coil of 100meter 2.5mm electrical cable which sold for around RM45 last year is now RM80 and worst sold in subang for RM100. That's more than 100% increase.
Worst is, the price can just go up overnight without prior indications and I have personnally lost some design and build jobs because I cannot carry out the job at the price I have quoted.
Please beware as some so call electricians are using 3 core 1.5mm cables for installation and charging lower rates. This 1.5mm cables are only good for looping of lighting points and should not be use for other stuff.
Hope this has helped you to understand the pricing more.
Are you sure that 1.5mm square size cable is not suitable ? Is it not stated by cable manufacturers that the rating is 15amps for that ? A 1 hp aircon uses not more than 5 amps when it is running. Perhaps my calculation is wrong here or you got mistaken for a 1mm square size cable....
Originally Posted by edwardyap
That's very cheap. I assume your new house already has aircond power point and your compressor is placed back-to-back?
Originally Posted by jakpo
RM45 per foot run? If 10 feet that's already RM450. My compressor has to be placed (I'm guessing) around 20 feet from where my aircond unit will be, and the black piping has to go through the roof. My contractor quoted me RM1950 all in for 1HP york aircond. I just find it difficult to believe that to install a RM900 york aircond costs RM1000. How much is the normal charge to pull wire /power point for aircond?
Originally Posted by edwardyap
aircond power points
Installation of power points for aircond nowadayscan run from RM150 to RM 250 again now depending on the distance from the mains to where you want the point.
Hacking of the walls to conceal the cables (if not installed by exposed casing) will set you back about another RM300. If that's the case, you'll end up paying more again to repaint.
General rule of thumb
Originally Posted by CCY
1.5mm 3 core cables are good for only up to 3Amps (looping for lighting only)
2.5mm 7core cables up to 15Amps (1hp to 1.5hp aircond and 13Amp sockets)
4mm 7 core cables up to 25Amps (2hp aircond and above)
* Alot of electricians use up to 2.5mm only to save cost even for high capacity airconds but it's not recommended.
Imagine just because of saving cost a lower rated cable is used and one fine day it melts. You will end up paying more to rewire the whole thing.
or they are pulling your leg and trying to chop your neck
Originally Posted by PJS
[QUOTE=denver]That's very cheap. I assume your new house already has aircond power point and your compressor is placed back-to-back?
denver - yup.
if it'll help, i recently installed a panasonic 1 hp aircon for RM1250 or RM1300 (can't remember the exact figure.) Had an electrician put in a dedicated aircon point (without starter) for RM80. The piping for the aircon was quite long - at least 15 feet.
Thanks, that's about the right price I think. I found a shop that gives the following price:
York 1HP = RM850 (including installation, standard 10ft.)
Panasonic 1HP = RM999 (including installation, standard 10ft)
So their installation price is around RM150-200. That's quite reasonable. It really surprises me that some electrical shop can charge RM800 to install a 1HP aircond, such a big difference, really chop your neck one.