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    Cop's legal action against student will create fear

    Wednesday November 23, 2005

    Cop's legal action against student will create fear

    BY LEONG SHEN-LI AND CECIL FUNG

    KUALA LUMPUR: The Human Rights Caucus, a parliamentarian group, has criticised the move by a policeman to sue a student for defamation over a report she lodged with the Anti-Corruption Agency.

    “This is totally against public policy,” Caucus chairman and Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz told a press conference at the Parliament lobby yesterday.

    The caucus is a loose group formed in May last year from among Barisan Nasional and Opposition parliamentarians to take up human rights issues.

    Its deputy chairman is Lim Kit Siang, the Opposition Leader.

    Nazri said the move by the policeman to sue would create fear in people who decide to complain against the police.

    The student Foo Sze Kuan, 18, turned up in Parliament yesterday to explain her predicament to the Caucus.

    Foo was stopped at a police roadblock for driving a car with an expired road tax and without a “P” plate on June 13 last year.

    Facing five policemen, she claimed she felt intimidated and paid up when asked for a bribe.

    The next day, upon her parents’ advice, Foo lodged a complaint with the ACA.

    The ACA subsequently took up a case against one of the policemen. On Oct 11 this year, the court acquitted him on technical grounds.

    The policeman, in the meantime, filed a suit against the student in March this year.

    Nazri said the fact that the case was filed before the corruption case was completed suggested that the policeman was “threatening the complainant to withdraw her case”.

    Furthermore, he said, as the ACA had brought the case against the policeman, he should have sued the agency and not the student.

    Both the Bar Council and Transparency International said the move by the policeman would deter those with genuine allegations from coming forward.

    While acknowledging that not every report would end up with enough evidence to establish a case, Bar Council president Yeo Yang Poh stressed that it did not mean there was no basis for the allegations.

    “Those who come forward to report an offence for reasons of public policy should be protected from such civil suits,” he said.

    Transparency International Malaysia president Datuk Param Cumaraswamy said just because the policeman was acquitted, it did not mean the person who lodged a report against him could be sued for defamation.

    “Police officers should be careful not to file suits of this kind unless the report against them was made in mala fide (bad faith). If there was mala fide in this case, the ACA investigations would have uncovered it,” he added.

    Param said that it was because of cases like this that a Whistleblowers’ Act was needed.

    “We have been asking for a Whistleblowers’ Act for a long time because very often, we find the whistleblowers themselves being prosecuted.”

    http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...nation&focus=1

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    Param said that it was because of cases like this that a Whistleblowers’ Act was needed.


    Another interesting development is underway!

    As param mentioned...its about time that we embark with the new Act.

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    does this mean that if the cops book me on something, and later, i am found not guilty by the courts, am i allowed to sue that particualr cop for slander, wrongful detention etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaytea
    does this mean that if the cops book me on something, and later, i am found not guilty by the courts, am i allowed to sue that particualr cop for slander, wrongful detention etc?
    Yes this often happens in European countries when people are wrongfully detained. And often they don't need to sue; they get compensation amicably. If they've been exposed by media in the process, the compensation can be quite large, e.g. > RM 1 million.
    See you...

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    The cops are driving away many many tourists. Not forgetting the low % of crime cases solved, and the snatch thieves thriving in every corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voter
    The cops are driving away many many tourists. Not forgetting the low % of crime cases solved, and the snatch thieves thriving in every corner.
    Now that the girl has been identified, the cop should also be publicly identified. Tidak malu!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voter
    The cops are driving away many many tourists.
    Yes, in tag-team with the Johor royals...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBug
    Now that the girl has been identified, the cop should also be publicly identified. Tidak malu!
    You wanna bet... not in this life time...

    Seems everytime some VIP, bigwig, tycoon, businessmen, government official, etc etc is involved and higlighted in the media - they always stay anonymous... until they get stripped of their title or assets... until then, they stay anonymous...

    As for the man in the street... like you and me, our names will be on Page One for everyone to see... ...

    As for our policemen... now tell me, why is USJ/Subang Jaya famous for cops hiding in corners, bushes, pillars,sidelanes and signboards... instead of patrolling the residential and business areas? Why are they always so busy with their road blocks at the USJ/PUCHONG exit and entrance... You can almost always find a whole bunch of them on motorbikes there... I guess it is easier to nab a whole load of traffic offenders there than to look for criminals elsewhere

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    Most importantly you must know your rights when confronted by law enforcers. They wouldn't dare to mess around with you if they know that you know your rights.

    For this poor girl, she is a fresh driver & probably her 1st experience with cops, I would expect it was her most frightening experience & just innocently following instructions given by the cops (obviously the wrong instructions).

    Some cops as usual, will try to practice(or is it abuse?) their power esp. on young new drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBug
    Now that the girl has been identified, the cop should also be publicly identified. Tidak malu!

    Err...yes...all the cops should have the picture and particulars taken one by one and posted on the front page of star, NST and every other major newspaper to teach all the cop a lesson so they do not take it for granted.

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    I think I have mentioned this before...all police cars should be fitted with camera, which would also protect the cop and the civilian...sinc everything is captured on camera, there will be no giving or taking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeJay
    I think I have mentioned this before...all police cars should be fitted with camera, which would also protect the cop and the civilian...sinc everything is captured on camera, there will be no giving or taking!
    Yah VeeJay, if you watch the TV series where the "Best Police Videos" all patrol cars are fitted with a video camera on the front dashboard.... Perhaps after this posting, somebody is already at Bukit Aman doorstep with a "proposal to supply and fit....." already! Hmmmm Malaysia Boleh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBug
    Yah VeeJay, if you watch the TV series where the "Best Police Videos" all patrol cars are fitted with a video camera on the front dashboard.... Perhaps after this posting, somebody is already at Bukit Aman doorstep with a "proposal to supply and fit....." already! Hmmmm Malaysia Boleh!
    They are aware of it...since they do send their people from the forces for a two week stint in oveseas and especially in US to supposingly study, survery and evaluate new technology and process trip..not "makan again" In states, atleast it police have to have their camera rolling when they issue the ticket so the bribery case hardly occurs....the only way I have bribed them was thru words of sorry sorry officer...was either rushing or new to the place...they check your driving record and if everything is clean, the let you go

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeJay
    I think I have mentioned this before...all police cars should be fitted with camera, which would also protect the cop and the civilian...sinc everything is captured on camera, there will be no giving or taking!
    Now tell me that the copper is gonna stand in front of the camera while he/she stupidly ask/takes a bribe then this cop will be hung by his own comrades in uniform for being the dumbest cop on videotape.
    ... for one can always make the offender to step away from the camera while business is being done... and excuses made up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by USJ27Resident
    Now tell me that the copper is gonna stand in front of the camera while he/she stupidly ask/takes a bribe then this cop will be hung by his own comrades in uniform for being the dumbest cop on videotape.
    ... for one can always make the offender to step away from the camera while business is being done... and excuses made up...
    How much exciue can one make up? Everytime s/he stops a vehicle? Also its illegal, if the cop steps away from camera then its 'Non Conformance of Procedure'

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