Do you think the new rapidKL bus service will make a difference in SJ and USJ?
My main questions about the new service are:
1) This is a huge and complicated system requiring transfers from bus to bus, and ending up with higher fares.
Are KL bus passengers willing to give up their "1 seat for 1 fare" and switch from bus to bus, if there is better, more reliable service?
2) After the service is implemented, no rapidKL buses except the City Shuttles, will enter the KL City Centre. However, Metrobuses and other companies will still do so.
Would you rather stick with Metrobus, SJ bus, etc. for the "1 seat for 1 fare" or would you be willing to give the new rapidKL service a try?
3) Subang Jaya already has shuttle bus services, and many bus routes. So far it hasnt made enough of a difference.
Do you think the new rapidKL bus service will make a difference in SJ and USJ?
RapidKL website updated for new bus service in Region 2
RapidKL has updated their website to show information about the new bus routes in Region 2, which is the north KL area.
gives the new routes and the route maps for these new routes, as well as the old routes that are now out of service.
This route map shows you an example of the new routes and the old route that is being replaced.
However, you wouldn't be able to find the information if you were not carefully looking for it. See the main page to understand what I mean.
Oh, and the old information and old route maps for the "region 2" (north kl) are still posted on the website too...for example, this poorly labeled route map of the rapidKL stage buses or this route map of the feeder buses which doesnt actually mention that these are feeder buses. :confused:
Nice job, rapidKL. You get an E for effort. Nowhere to go but up. :D
New rapidKL Area 3 service (Ampang Area)
Rapid KL has introduced the new restructured service into Area 3, since Sunday April 30.
This area covers Pandan, Hulu Kelang, Ampang, Wangsa Maju, Keramat and Setapak, basically the northeast of KL.
Not surprisingly, there is no news coverage and no announcement on rapidKL's website. If I can get the brochure I will scan it and see if I can post it on this page.
This article in the Star describes a complaint by the MPAJ, asking rapidKL to delay the system to give them time to study it.
I wonder who is acting poorly here...rapidKL for giving no information, or the MPAJ for not getting the info.
This info will be important for MPSJ area residents. Methinks MPSJ area will be the next to receive service, unless Cheras is more important :p
New City Shuttle Bus route #116
I also learned yesterday that rapidKL has introduced a new City Shuttle Route, from KLCC to Pusat Bandar Damansara.
This route is #116. The fare is RM2 and that would get you unlimited service on the rapidKL City Shuttles. You can also purchase the RM4 Pas Semua for all bus service, on board.
The last trip from KLCC to Damansara is 6:00 pm. I believe there is a trip back from Damansara but I dont have that detail.
This looks like a commuter route, to get people living in Damansara to work in KLCC and back to Damansara. It may also be in place to gauge ridership
...rapidKL still has those plans for an LRT from Kerinchi to Damansara.
information about rapidKL route 116 (KLCC to PB Damansara)
Here's the information about rapidKL route 116 (KLCC to PB Damansara)
Buses depart from KLCC and travel along Jalan Yap Kwan Seng, Jalan Tun Razak, Jalan Tun Ismail (PWTC), Langgak Tunku, Jalan Duta, Jalan Semantan before getting to Pusat Bandar Damansara.
The return trip is along the same routes, but in reverse direction. The fare is RM2 and the ticket can be used on any City Shuttle bus for a whole day.
As the routes serve mostly officer workers, the spokesman said buses would depart from KLCC only at the following times: 6.30am, 7am, 7.30am, 8am, 8.30am, 9am, 9.45am, 10.30am, 11.30am, 12.15pm, 1pm, 1.45pm, 2.30pm, 3pm, 4pm, 4.30pm, 5pm, 5.30pm and 6pm.
Here is an article about the route 116 City Shuttle service in the Star today
This service began in early May but no update of the website...
Latest update...new service to arrive in Subang and USJ in August
An article in the Sun newspaper has given more information about the plans for the restructuring of the rapidKL bus services.
The next area to be restructured (called area 4) will be the southeast and south-south east areas of KL, meaning specifically Sg. Besi, Cheras, Ulu Langat, and points between. These buses will use the KL Sentral and Maluri hubs.
There will also be an express bus service to putrajaya from KL Sentral, at RM4 (unlimited travel).
This restructuring will take place beginning July 1.
Area 5 restructuring will begin in August, probably August 1. Area 5 will include Seri Petaling, Puchong, Subang Jaya, and South PJ.
Area 6 restructuring will begin in August as well, probably August 16 or 31 (judging by the pattern seen so far). Area 6 will include north PJ, Damansara, Shah Alam, Glenmarie, and Klang.
So, Subang and USJ are Area5. Judging by what has been done in Area 3 and Area 2, Area 5 can expect 3-4 new trunk bus routes (Bas Utama, RM2) and about 30 new local bus routes beginning with the number 5 (bas tempatan, RM1).
There will be a mix of the new and the old buses. I have already seen some of these buses testing out routes in USJ and Subang Jaya. If you see a rapidKL bus with a GREEN circle on the back it is a local bus (bas tempatan), while a BLUE circle means a trunk bus (bas utama). RED circle is the KL City Shuttle(Bas Bandaraya).
Of possible interest to puchong, sri petaling, and damansara residents
The new rapidKL bus service has begun operations in Area 4 which is SE of KL down to Putrajaya and Kajang.
Of some interest to people living in Damansara and Sri Petaling and Puchong are the following routes:
Route T43 is a limited stop trunk bus (bas utama) route from Bandar Utama to Putrajaya. It makes 3 stops between Bandar Utama (1 Utama mall) and Putrajaya (Putrajaya Sentral, aka the Western Transport Terminal).
These stops are at Damansara Uptown, Kelana Jaya LRT, and IOI Mall.
Also worth noting are the many new local bus (bas tempatan) routes from Bandar Bukit Jalil and Sri Petaling to Sri Petaling and Bukit Jalil LRT stations.
Subang Jaya, Puchong, USJ, and PJ will receive new service next month as part of Area 5
Feature in the Star about new Area 4 bus service
The Star Newspaper has featured a report on the new rapidKL restructured bus service in Area 4 (Cheras, Putrajaya, Kajang) in the Metro Section on Monday July 10, 2006.
There are 3 articles as part of the feature, which are:
* We’ve connected the suburbs to the city, says CEO
* Tiring three-bus trip for Cheras folks
* Going gets tough on new system
Most of the articles are not positive about the restructured system...because it is more complicated, the waiting for buses can be long, and because many people dont like transferring buses.
However, it is worth it to read about the issues since the new service will arrive in Area 5 and Area 6 in August.
(Area 5 is the area south of the Federal Highway from KL to Klang, including Subang, USJ, parts of PJ, etc. Area 6 is the area north of the Federal Highway from KL to Klang, including Shah Alam, Damansara, much of PJ, etc.)
In my opinion, I support the transfer based service but I believe that there are ways to improve the service. In any case, the companies like Metrobus etc will still offer service in the traditional way direct into the city centre.
I hope the information proves to be useful to you.
Some information about local shuttles in Area 5 (Puchong)
The information given is taken from the Star article at the link below
For the new area 5 service, which should arrive in September, the local interchanges in the Puchong Area will be at
Bintang Taman Kinrara
These are the points where the local buses (Green board, bas tempatan) will be meeting the Trunk buses (Blue board, bas utama) which will take you to KL, Damansara, or Putrajaya.
Route 506 and 507 lead to Bintang Taman Kinrara,
Route 509 and 511 to IOI,
Route 510, 512, 514, and 515 all lead to Puchong Utama
Here is a list of some of the local bus routes (Green board, bas tempatan)
Route 505 : Bukit Kuchai to Honda or Shell station at Batu Tiga, Jalan Klang Lama;
Route 506 : Puchong Jaya or Taman Kinrara;
Route 507 : Bandar Kinrara;
Route 508 : Wawasan Puchong to Puchong Jaya;
Route 509 : Puchong Utama;
Route 510 and 511 : Puchong Prima;
Route 514 : Putra Perdana;
Route 515 : Pulau Meranti
Route 542 : Putra Heights to USJ 8 (Taipan).
The two additional to be launched later this year end are:
Route 512 : Taman Puchong Emas
Route 513 : Puchong Utama to Bukit Puchong.
23/8/06 Front page pullout section of the Sun
For those of you who might be interested, today's The Sun newspaper has a front page pull out advertisement showing off the rapidKL City Shuttle service.
The second page of the pull out has a map of the City Shuttle system which can be useful.
Invitation to Briefing on RapidKL Bus Service in Parliament Kelana Jaya
Folks, I received this in my mail and thought I just share with those who are interested. Basically, our MP is inviting residents in his constituency to a briefing of RapidKL's service and upgradation in our area and to provide more info for those affected. Well, wow, it is heartening to note our MP has us all in mind with regards to our transportation woes here. Kudos YB Loh!
JEMPUTAN MENGHADIRI TAKLIMAT MENGENAI PELANCARAN
PERKHIDMATAN BAS DI KAWASAN PARLIMEN KELANA JAYA
Dengan segala hormatnya dimaklumkan bahawa Pusat Perkhidmatan Ahli Parlimen Kawasan Kelana Jaya dengan kerjasama Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd (RAPID KL) akan mengadakan suatu sesi taklimat khasnya untuk penduduk kawasan Parlimen Kelana Jaya.
2. Taklimat ini bertujuan memberi penerangan tentang perkhidmatan yang akan disediakan oleh RAPID KL, dalam usaha untuk mempertingkatkan sistem pengangkutan awam di Lembah Kelang termasuk kawasan Kelana Jaya, Subang Jaya, USJ dan Bandar Sunway. Butiran taklimat adalah seperti berikut:
Tarikh : 3hb September 2006 (Ahad)
Masa : 3:00 petang
Tempat : Pusat Cornerstone Doulos
No. 1-27 – 1-29, Jalan PJS 9/1A, Lagoon Perdana,
Bandar Sunway, Petaling Jaya.
4. Sukacitanya pihak tuan/puan adalah dijemput untuk menghadiri taklimat tersebut. Diharapkan pihak tuan/puan memberi maklum balas secepat mungkin untuk tindakan selanjutnya pejabat ini. Segala kerjasama dan sokongan pihak tuan/puan amatlah dihargai.
Sekian, terima kasih.
( LOH SENG KOK )
Nama Persatuan: __________________________________________________ _________
Hadir Bilangan Kehadiran: __________
Nama & Tandatangan: ______________________________
Tidak Hadir No. Telefon : ______________________________
Sila jawab ke 03-56212111 / faks ke 03-56212110 sebelum 01/09/2006. Terima kasih.
10 reasons why better public transit is good for our community
As a reminder, the rapidKL restructured bus system will be complete on September 16.
On September 10, as mentioned by PC Yeoh in the previous post, there will be a public meeting about the new rapidKL service for Subang, USJ, Puchong, Petaling Jaya, Damansara, etc. which they refer to as Area 5 and Area 6.
Area 5 is the area south of the Federal Highway, and Area 6 is north of the federal highway.
It is very important that as many people as possible will attend this public meeting. Now, some people may think that public transit is not very important to them or does not affect their lives.
I would like to express that I disagree with this...and to prove my idea, here are 10 reasons why good public transit is very important for our communities.
When you read all of these ideas, you will want to have good public transit in your community too!
10 reasons why public transit is good for your community.
10) Reduced traffic jams:
Public transit is not just about reducing the number of cars on the road during peak hours. Good public transit will change the way that people make their trips at all times of day.
The best way to do this is to encourage people to use transit in their communities, regularly, not just for long trips to the city centre.
This will result in less Single Occupant Vehicle (SOV) journeys, which will lead to less cars on the road...in our local communities.
RapidKL local shuttles provide unlimited service for only rm1 per day.
9) Reduced fuel prices:
The less you use your car, the better it is. The reason is simple. Petrol is an inelastic commodity. If demand increases a little bit, the price will increase a lot. On the other hand, if demand decreases a little bit, then the price will decrease a lot.
You do not notice the pump price for petrol changing...however, the government pays the difference between the real cost and the pump price. If we can do our part to lower fuel prices, then the government can use that money elsewhere.
Each public transit trip you take...is a trip your car is not taking...and a little less petrol is used.
8) Lower cost of living:
Your car is not cheap. You have to use it a lot, and that means wear and tear on your car. Also, if you make lots of little trips in your car, or idle the engine while you are waiting, this will increase the wear and tear on your engine.
Having good public transit gives you a real choice. Take your car sometimes. Take public transit sometimes.
Public transit is not just used by people who cannot afford a car. It is also used by people who choose to use it...because they find that it is more cost-effective, convenient, or faster, than using a car.
rapidKL is promising buses every 15 minutes or better, and bus service into all 980 housing estates around KL. That is a lot more choice than we have ever had.
7) Reduced economic losses:
Time that is lost in traffic jams is money that is lost as well. There is a connection between traffic and economic losses...think of all the trucks that are sitting there, stuck in traffic, burning fuel...no wonder the cost of items are going up.
40 people on a bus means 40 less cars on the road...that means that trucks can get to their deliveries faster, and that means that things cost less.
6) Less interference in family relationships:
How many of you wish that you could spend less time with your family? Not likely. Well, with good public transit you dont have to. After all, rapid transit bypasses the jams on the roads and the highways. It is especially fun to sit in a train and fly by the jams.
Good public transit is rapidtransit. Buses should have priority over cars. Routes should be designed to follow roads, so that people will use public transit more often to get to the places where they want to go.
5) Better family relationships:
Have you ever sat down and thought that you are not spending enough time with your family? Have you ever seen a family board the LRT and have the kids immediately jump to the window to watch outside? Those precious moments are important.
When you are on the bus or train with your family, you can talk to each other and listen to each other and communicate. What more can you ask for?
4) More independent, community-minded children:
Have you ever been concerned about how independent your children are? Do you want them to be wiser, smarter and more indepedent? Well, giving your children reponsibility and the opportunity to try new things is one way to help them become independent.
For a young child, taking the bus is a challenging adventure that will give them the wisdom, independence, and experience that they need to grow up into successful adults.
3) Healthier Communities:
Did you know that the world is in the midst of an obesity epidemic? Did you know that Malaysians are facing rapid increases in levels of heart disease and type II diabetes?
Did you also know that people living in suburban areas are likely to weigh about 5 lbs more than people living in urban areas...the reason is because of all that driving.
Yes, public transit forces you to walk and wait and stand sometimes...and with all of that standing and walking and waiting, your are improving your posture, you are using your muscles, and you are stimulating your mind and body.
Is there a direct connection between using public transit and better health? The answer is no...but using public transit can be one part of a healthy lifestyle.
2) Safer Communities:
One reason why our communities are less safe is because there are less eyes on the street. We see less people, we interact with less people, and our sense of community breaks down.
Criminals exploit this. Empty streets give them the opportunity to commit crimes.
Having good public transit will get people out on the streets...waiting, watching...and criminals will know, quickly, that their opportunities are limited.
1) Caring Communities:
Further to the above, the more you see people around you, the more you will involve yourself in the community. You spend more time with your family and children, and you encourage your children to see themselves as a part of a community.
Imagine, that ..... public transit can take us this far.............
With all of these reasons, why would you not want better public transit in your communities.
To show your support, join us at the public meeting on September 10.
join me on a ronda-ronda of the new bus system on Monday, September 18
As a reminder, the rapidKL restructured bus system will be complete on September 16.
rapidKL will be giving passengers in Area 5 and 6 a free, 3-day trial of the bus system. I will be trying out the system on September 18. Does anyone wish to join me on a ronda-ronda of the new bus system on Monday, September 18?
I will be out and about from about 4 pm or so.