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MOYSC
25-10-2005, 02:20 PM
If anyone in here has personally experienced acupuncture that could help alievate the effects of stroke, I would appreciate if you could share it with me...

My dad, a diabetic for 15 years, had recently been diagnosed with stroke after undergoing a CT scan. One of his portal arteries leading to the right hind part of his brains is clogged, thus causing surrounding brain & nerve tissues to die. As a result, his physical movements on the left side of his body is affected, including his right cheek & jaw.

According to the neurologist, the blood clot cannot be removed & they can only prevent further stroke occurence by prescribing cholestrol medication on a long-term basis. If anyone in here has experienced stroke & do not mind sharing his/her experiences, pls PM me. Thank you in advance.

ppleong
25-10-2005, 05:11 PM
My late father suffered a stroke a few years ago. After the stroke, he went for acupuncture treatment which helped him to get his leg and hand movements back in motion. The center is in old town and is a charity organisation. The same is Sau Seng Lum Center. Heard they have shifted to Puchong.

ng
25-10-2005, 05:15 PM
According to the neurologist, the blood clot cannot be removed & they can only prevent further stroke occurence by prescribing cholestrol medication on a long-term basis. If anyone in here has experienced stroke & do not mind sharing his/her experiences, pls PM me. Thank you in advance.

Western medicine cannot help stroke victims short of surgery.

I suggest you either take chinese acupunture (good ones not those quack doctors), or take chinese herbs. Some chinese herbs are good in removing blood stasis or improving flow of blood. (again there are quack doctors)

My dad had a stroke and went to chinese maternity hospital for acupuncture, his condition was better. If combined with chinese herbs, it should be better. :o

MOYSC
25-10-2005, 06:54 PM
Thx ppleong & ng. Do you guys happen to have the doctor's (practitioner's) name? We do need some advise as we've never seen chinese medical practitioners before. Thx again. :)

ng
25-10-2005, 07:18 PM
Thx ppleong & ng. Do you guys happen to have the doctor's (practitioner's) name? We do need some advise as we've never seen chinese medical practitioners before. Thx again. :)

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You can try out sau seng lum stroke center first at puchong (sorry i don't know exactly where but search the internet), I think it is free there.

If they are not effective, then go to chinese maternity hospital at jln pudu (next to pudu raya), it is a very old hospital (more than 50 years old), they have acupuncturists from china but you must pay for their service around $40 per treatment. Sorry, but my younger brother was the one who brought him to chinese maternity hospital so just ask for any specialist there.

wAISEKMAo
25-10-2005, 08:40 PM
My late father suffered a stroke a few years ago. After the stroke, he went for acupuncture treatment which helped him to get his leg and hand movements back in motion. The center is in old town and is a charity organisation. The same is Sau Seng Lum Center. Heard they have shifted to Puchong.

If any of you who knows this "sau seng lum center", would you kindly let us know where it is located (or tel is even better). Thanks in advance.

ppleong
25-10-2005, 10:26 PM
The website is www.sausenglum.org. The hq is in Puchong. The acupuncture centre maybe still in old town just behind the Sri Inai Apartments. Contact them immediately tomorrow and send your dad there for treatment.

clarence
25-10-2005, 11:48 PM
You can also try Jun Xi at 13 Jalan SS 18/1B, Subang Jaya.
Tel 56319899. His website www.dr-jun.com.. I had a bell patsy attack, where my face nerves and muscle are affected. Now is 90% cured.

MOYSC
26-10-2005, 07:51 AM
Thx so much for all the valuable info. I shall be in touch with all of the above contacts to explore the best possible method(s) for my father's condition. Tentatively, he'll require physiotherapy and Sau Seng Lum Stroke Rehabilitation Center is certainly a very good choice.

Meanwhile, have anyone of you heard about THE TOLE ACUPUNCTURE & HERBAL MEDICAL CENTRE SDN BHD. ? I've not checked it out but I found it on in the internet. Some info are as follows :

Address:
Suite 4.08, 4.10,
4th Floor,
Medical Specialist Floor,
Menara Promet,
Jalan Sultan Ismail,
50250 Kuala Lumpur.
Malaysia.
Tel No : 603-21418370 / 603-21451671
Fax No : 603-27326887

Website : http://www.geocities.com/mastertole/Institute.html
http://www.geocities.com/mastertole/diabetes.html

Hopefully, some of the above info can be useful for other stroke patients & forewarn others to prevent against this 3rd major killer disease in M'sia. :)

ng
26-10-2005, 02:09 PM
Meanwhile, have anyone of you heard about THE TOLE ACUPUNCTURE & HERBAL MEDICAL CENTRE SDN BHD. ? I've not checked it out but I found it on in the internet. Some info are as follows :

forewarn others to prevent against this 3rd major killer disease in M'sia. :)

please avoid tole acupuncture ! My father went there first and didn't find their treatment effective, moreover, their charges are very expensive .
(I hope i won't get blasted for saying this). But you shouldn't try to find out so many places when people here have given advice to you. I am sure we have all searched high and low for good doctors. So try the ones that worked first before going to places that people don't recommend.

jack10dd
26-10-2005, 08:45 PM
Hi jus a note, if u look at stroke patients they will recover over time but not 100%. There will be some changes that cannot be avoided. The body have their own mechanism to work on with stroke ( the details not very sure ) .


So with acupunture or not there will be some changes occuring.


Pls refer to a Neurologist before proceeding to other avenues of treaments. Herbs can have other side effects such as effecting the liver or other systems.


So your decision is vital for the patient. Pls decide wisely.

MOYSC
27-10-2005, 07:17 AM
Ng, thx for your advice. I only wanted to research the best possible option for my dad. No, I've not doubted any forumer's recommendation. In fact, I'll be bringing my dad to view both Dr Jun Xi's clinic & Sau Seng Lum at Puchong within this week, so that he can choose the one most comfortable to his current needs.

Jack10dd, most medical specialists we've talked to do not believe in acupuncture, as western medicine does not have sufficient evidence, documentation & research done to proof its functionality & effectiveness. Nevertheless, the W.H.O had recently endorsed acupuncture as a proven method to treat joint/muscle-related injuries & confirms that this technique does not have any adverse effects. Nevertheless, acupuncture has been well-known to successfully treat many illnesses especially in China, but I certainly do not have any experience nor knowledge about it in Malaysia.

Thanks so much for all the thoughts & recommendations. :) Nina