Chelation Therapy

[Joe Gomez]

Anyone tried Chelation Therapy.
More importantly, did it work for you ?
If you respond, I a going to assume u r alive, & survived to tell your story. :D :D
But jokes aside, from your experience, is it of any use ?

[alucard_my]

Joe Gomez,

Chelation is a miracle finding by Dr. Gary Gordon in which he helped many patients suffering from heart disease. Medical treatment includes direct exposure of EDTA into blood stream. One main problem is that this treatment is very very costly.

For your information, there is a great product by Dr. Gary Gordon himself which is available in Malaysia market and best, it is at a fraction of the price for the said treatment. The chelation method is via oral and you take it before going to bed and upon waking up.

It is a one and only product currently in Malaysia. If you require more information, please contact me. I would be happy to be off assistance. Thanks.

[orchipalar]

Err...Alucard:)...wonder what ya may think of this... (http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chelation.html) or this... (http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chelationfraud.html) ?

[orchipalar]

Chelation is a miracle finding by Dr. Gary Gordon in which he helped many patients suffering from heart disease. Medical treatment includes direct exposure of EDTA into blood stream. One main problem is that this treatment is very very costly.

For your information, there is a great product by Dr. Gary Gordon himself which is available in Malaysia market and best, it is at a fraction of the price for the said treatment. The chelation method is via oral and you take it before going to bed and upon waking up.

It is a one and only product currently in Malaysia. If you require more information, please contact me. I would be happy to be off assistance. Thanks.Err...how about reading what these guys have to say about Chelation Therapy... (http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4493)?

[cskok8]

Orchi, you know what they say, there is a $ucker born every minute.

[alucard_my]

You can always read this: http://kerakemas.com/antiageing/index.htm

You can also try to find some journals and findings by Dr. Gary F. Gordon, an expert in chelation theraphy who has over 30 years of chelation experiences.

I wouldn't know much about in super details on how chelation works, as there are always critics out there no matter what you do. For example Dr. Gary F. Gordon's case, which happened many years ago in which he helped some heart attack patients to recover from the disease, in which heart surgeons couldn't do so. As a result, he was sued by the associations of heart practitioners (or something) in the States which stated that he conned the patients to leave their medical treatment to seek chelation treatment. Why? If one is bright enough, he would have know the answer. If not, here is it. If chelation theraphy could help heart patients, imagine what would happen to heart surgeons or specialist.They would lose patients, and subsequently, money. People pay huge amounts to get even a bypass. But ULTIMATELY, he won the case, and now they could not stop him from promoting his chelation method.


Orchipalar, I couldn't load the final link you posted la..

[orchipalar]

You can always read this: http://kerakemas.com/antiageing/index.htm

You can also try to find some journals and findings by Dr. Gary F. Gordon, an expert in chelation theraphy who has over 30 years of chelation experiences.

I wouldn't know much about in super details on how chelation works, as there are always critics out there no matter what you do. For example Dr. Gary F. Gordon's case, which happened many years ago in which he helped some heart attack patients to recover from the disease, in which heart surgeons couldn't do so. As a result, he was sued by the associations of heart practitioners (or something) in the States which stated that he conned the patients to leave their medical treatment to seek chelation treatment. Why? If one is bright enough, he would have know the answer. If not, here is it. If chelation theraphy could help heart patients, imagine what would happen to heart surgeons or specialist.They would lose patients, and subsequently, money. People pay huge amounts to get even a bypass. But ULTIMATELY, he won the case, and now they could not stop him from promoting his chelation method.


Orchipalar, I couldn't load the final link you posted la..Err...Allucard:)...ya seems to be persistence in promoting the chelation therapy ...which was only approved by FDA for treatment of heavy metal poisoning ONLY... (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:hDpvaGfdUCYJ:health.yahoo.com/ency/healthwise/ty3205spec+Federal+Drug+Administration+chelation+t herapy&hl=en&client=firefox-a)??

Err...why don't ya tell us exactly what you have in mind...otherthan quoting your own version of a reference to the one so called Dr. Gary Gordon's case with a group of heart practitioners or something...???

Ahem...btw...about the link to the findings about chelation therapy...by the American Heart Association(AHA)...you might wanna try again tomorrow...coz it was working yesterday...

OR...perhaps ya might wanna refer to this first...ahem...before ya might get Orchi to loose some more sleep on this thread...:)

Interpretation of Statutes Regarding Chelation Therapy

The State Medical Board of Ohio issues the following statement regarding the use of chelation therapy by licensed physicians:

l) Chelation therapy has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (hereinafter "F.D.A.") for a limited number of indications, one of which is for the treatment of heavy metal poisoning.

2) Chelation therapy has not been approved by the F.D.A. for such indications as cancer or arteriosclerosis.

3) Since the F.D.A. has not approved chelation therapy for some indications, a physician who uses chelation therapy for unapproved uses could be in violation of Sections 4731.22(B)(2), (3) and (6), Ohio Revised Code, as well as any applicable F.D. A. regulations.

4) As set forth in Title 21, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 312, which is attached, an Ohio physician can use chelation therapy for an unapproved use for investigational or research work. To obtain clearance for investigational or research work, please contact the following section of the F.D.A.:

Document and Records Service Section (HFN-106)
Bureau of Drugs and Biologics
Food and Drug Administration
5600 Fishers Lane
Rockville, Maryland 20857

http://med.ohio.gov/positionpapers/chelate.htm

[orchipalar]

Ethylenediaminetetraacetic Acid (EDTA)

Uses

Lead Poisoning and Heavy Metal Toxicity
Chelation therapy using EDTA is the medically accepted treatment for lead poisoning. EDTA is injected intravenously in a medical setting, such as a clinic or a hospital. Once in the bloodstream, EDTA latches onto lead and other metals to form a compound that can be excreted in the urine. The process generally takes between 1 and 3 hours. Other heavy metal toxicities treated with chelation include mercury, arsenic, aluminum, chromium, cobalt, manganese, nickel, selenium, zinc, tin, and thallium. Chelating agents other than EDTA are also used to clear several of these substances from the bloodstream.

Digoxin Toxicity
Although not considered standard therapy, EDTA has also been used to treat digoxin toxicity. In this case, EDTA helps remove excess levels of digoxin, a medication known as a digitalis glycoside that is used to treat abnormal rhythms of the heart. Digoxin toxicity occurs when the body accumulates more digitalis than it can tolerate.

Atherosclerosis
Proponents of EDTA chelation therapy for heart disease believe that this process may help people with atherosclerosis or peripheral vascular disease (namely, decreased blood flow to the legs) by clearing clogged arteries and improving blood flow. However, this proposed mechanism has not been proven. For example, in a study of 30 people with atherosclerosis of the carotid arteries (vessels that supply blood to the brain), 10 months of EDTA chelation treatments significantly improved blood flow to the brain. The problem with the information from this study, however, is that these patients were not compared to any other group. Therefore, it is not clear if they got better simply by chance or because the EDTA intervention really made a difference.

Plus, as stated earlier, the theory that EDTA clears clogged arteries and improves blood flow is based on a somewhat outdated model about the probable causes of heart disease and other vascular disorders. Other newer theories about how chelation may work include the possibility that EDTA functions like an antioxidant, preventing damaging molecules known as free radicals from injuring blood vessel walls. Some laboratory studies also suggest that EDTA chelation may prevent collection of platelets (which can otherwise lead to formation of blood clots and prevent blood flow) on the walls of blood vessels. These ideas are theoretical, however.

Most studies investigating the effectiveness of EDTA chelation therapy for heart disease and vascular disorders have found that this controversial treatment is no better than placebo. For example, one scientifically rigorous study comparing EDTA chelation therapy to placebo in 84 people with heart disease concluded that those receiving EDTA chelation did no better than those receiving placebo in terms of changes in exercise capacity and quality of life. Similarly, several studies evaluating EDTA chelation therapy for atherosclerosis of the legs (called peripheral vascular disease) did not find any difference between those receiving EDTA and those receiving placebo. And, evaluation of EDTA for diminished ability to have an erection due to decreased blood flow to the penis, again, found no improvement in those receiving EDTA compared to those receiving placebo... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_effect) .

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/EthylenediaminetetraaceticAcidEDTAcs.html

Err...for goodness sakes...please give Orchi a break...ahem...Orchi had since been hearing a story...from Orchi's grandfather more than 4 decades ago...which was passed on from his great great great grandfathers...that the certain 'traditional medicines'...which is rubbed off from a certain deity's body...could cure all kinds of sickness...?? Ahem...can somebody be kind to help Orchi out here...err...as to where Orchi could find this wonder drug...??:D

[patrick]

Anyone tried Chelation Therapy.
More importantly, did it work for you ?
If you respond, I a going to assume u r alive, & survived to tell your story. :D :D
But jokes aside, from your experience, is it of any use ?

Let me share briefly my experience. I went down to Melaka to meet a doctor who is very much into chelation therapy. I met many Sgaporeans who were going through the process and actually spoke to them. They were very regulars at this clinic and swore that it was doing them a lot of good. Some of them were cancer survivors who had refused to undergo further radio and chemo. If any one of you want to know more (like me) suggest you go down to Melaka and talk to this doctor. Or perhaps you could give him a call to find out more. Those want to contact this doctor can pm me for details.

No, I didnt undergo this theraphy. It was really an academic venture for me...we never stop learning.

[alucard_my]

Patrick,

I would like to know this doctor's contact, as I would like to know more about chelation theraphy as well. Thanks in advance.

[Joe Gomez]

I started this thread in September ..... since then many silent moons had passed. I was heartened to see some response from alucard_my. The animated discussion that followed is really a learning experience for me.
By a stroke of coincidence this letter (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Monday/Letters/20051212081331/Article/indexb_html) was in the NST today.
What do you guys make of it ?
I think we shd keep in mind the fact that any discussion relating to health and how to maintain it can get quite animated ( with or without EDTA infusions ). Lets give some breathing space for the tabling of facts.
Between Sept and today I have had the opportunity to talk to at least 2 allophatic practitioners ( one a Malay Doctor in Shah Alam and an Indian Doctor in Bandar Sunway ) and active practitioners of this thingey called chelation. They come thru as very dedicated guys ...... who know what they are talking abt. The Dr from Shah Alam actually lent me this (http://www.bestvitamins.com/BestVitamins/chelation.htm) book. Couldnt put the darn thing down ......... very absorbing reading.
In all honesty it must be pointed out that the claims made are nothing short of amazing ..... that does not make the claims untrue ......
This is my small contribution/dose of EDTA for this discussion.

[kwchang]

As in all things, one should be careful with regards putting chemicals into one's body. Take for example steroids, it is a naturally occuring organic compound that seems like a wonder-drug. It is even like a miracle cure-all to the extent that some unscrupulous practitioners use it for their quick action and results. It is also known that some herbal concoctions use steroids to enhance the curative action. HOWEVER, it is well known that if one was wrongly dosed with steroids, there would be disastrous effects on organs like the liver and kidneys.

I have known of a friend's father who believed blindly in his sinseh's wonder drugs. This patient always had a "prosperous" look with a rounded face and rosy cheeks. He died very young of total kidney failure. His "healthy" look was due to steroids and he was unknowingly killing himself.

Does this chelation theraphy fall into the same category? I am not a doctor nor am I a biochemist. Check it out yourself if you think it is good. That applies to all medications. Do not believe in stuff written by non-scientific publications. Research publications are usually published in peer-reviewed journals where drug trials have to go through stringent scientific and statistical processes and thus the conclusions and findings are well vetted before it can be accepted.

[orchipalar]

Err...once in a long while...we hear of magnificent stories n cases of 'spiritual' healings(no medication necessary at all)...being told by surviving patients whom were suffering from terminal illness such as cancer...where medical doctors had earlier prognosed that he or she would have only weeks or months to live...

Ahem...in Orchi's mind...those could be miracles...n they are extremely extremely RARE cases... :)

[alucard_my]

First of all, I researched in Chelation when I first heard of it. Initially I do all my findings online. But then I gave it a try on our local website...and viola. You wouldn't know how happy I am to know that many fellow Malaysians are in the same frequency as well. Thanks Joe.

From the many good and bad remarks about chelation therapy, I greatly would wish to talk to some practitioneers in Malaysia. But never found one. Joe mentioned that he had talks with some doctors. Could you kindly forward their contacts to me so that I can have some talks to them to further my knowledge and subsequently, to fill you guys up on my findings?

Thanks in advance.

[Joe Gomez]

cskok8 is a medical practitioner ........ Hi Doc, your cynicism for all things scientifically unproven and unresearched is understandable and commendable. Thanks for sounding the cautionary knell.

orchi is a friend trying to look out for an old ( I mean very very old ) friend i.e. moi ............. thanks orchi.

kwchang is ............. well ......... just being chang ........ to the point .......... very logical and very balanced. Thanks sifu.

The Doctors I have spoken to are Dr Zawawi in Shah Alam & Dr Balan in Bandar Sunway. The former is a very personable, humble and diligent guy. He is ( in his own inimitable, quiet style ) very forthcoming with his comments. I will pm u if you need the address.

I would like to learn more about this rather " off the beaten path " treatment. As research data is not really available, I wld like to hear 1st hand from persons with personal experiences having undergone chelation.

[alucard_my]

Joe,

Thanks. I will appreciate it if you would post the address. I might as well as do a visit to them to hear more on their stories.

Patrick said that there is a Malacca doctor practicing this chelation method and many Singaporeans benefited from that? I would like to know of him and perhaps I could visit him for some testimonials or something for all of us to benefit from.

But let's keep this forum alive by posting more findings.

Thanks.

[orchipalar]

Chelation Therapy
The Council of the College of Physicians & Surgeons of B.C. endorses the position of the Canadian Cardiovascular Society, viz:

At the present time there is no scientifically valid information to suggest that chelation therapy has a beneficial effect in atherosclerosis.

The Council approves the use of chelation therapy (E.D.T.A., calcium disodium versenate) only for those conditions for which its use in Canada has been approved by the Health Protection Branch of Health Canada (namely acute and chronic heavy metal poisoning e.g. lead, mercury).

https://www.cpsbc.ca/cps/physician_resources/publications/resource_manual/chelation-therapy

Err...are more findings by the Canadian Cardiovascular Society...why ask from a couple of chelation therapists from Malaysia...?

Ahem...aren't there enough good doctors in Singapore...?

Why would seeking the opinions n experiences from a few patients undergoing the chelation therapy...more important than millions more of whom had survived from the widely accepted surgical corrections n treatment of cardiovascular problems...?

Could it be the fear of pre or post surgery syndromes?

Could it be a financial problem?...does the unproven chelation therapy come any much cheaper?

AT1-receptor blockers

* Beyond their use in hypertension or heart failure there is no evidence to recommend these agents in chronic ischemic disease (grade C, class III).

A number of agents that have been or are being studied or are otherwise used in a nonprescription manner in the treatment of chronic ischemic heart disease are listed below. Of these, antioxidant vitamin therapy, potassium channel activator therapy, the Mediterranean diet, neovascularizing therapy and temperate use of alcohol show some promise. Chelation therapy represents the other side of the spectrum, with no evidence whatsoever of benefit and significant potential risk.

14C Can J Cardiol Vol 14 Suppl C June 1998

# Chelation: There is no evidence of benefit and may cause renal tubular necrosis, arrhythmia, hypocalcemia, marrow depression, bleeding, hypotension or allergic reaction (grade E, class III).

http://www.ccs.ca/society/conferences/archives/1997/1997part-03.asp

[alucard_my]

Chelation therapy in which EDTA is intravenously feeded, there are bound to be some side effects. It is similar to what we experienced when we lose around 400cc of blood due to some shock our brain experienced...um..I'm not a doctor, but I've donated blood many times and doctors told me that.. :D

But if EDTA would be feeded orally, in some form of medicine or some other method, what would we benefit? I am interested in both if the latter is available.

I have to agree that surgery is the best to treat atherosclerosis but what about heavy metal poisoning?

Malaysia doctors aren't that bad. The point in me meeting them up is to find out more about them, why they choose chelation method, what are the side effects, etc etc, and not by written comments by some other people. It is not to say that the postings against chelation method is not without base, but it is just curiosity. You know, people says curiosity kills.

[orchipalar]

Originally posted by Allucard_MY: Oral Chelation
Joe Gomez,

Chelation is a miracle finding by Dr. Gary Gordon in which he helped many patients suffering from heart disease. Medical treatment includes direct exposure of EDTA into blood stream. One main problem is that this treatment is very very costly.

For your information, there is a great product by Dr. Gary Gordon himself which is available in Malaysia market and best, it is at a fraction of the price for the said treatment. The chelation method is via oral and you take it before going to bed and upon waking up.

It is a one and only product currently in Malaysia. If you require more information, please contact me. I would be happy to be off assistance. Thanks.Err...Allucard:)...ya began your journey here with this very first posting...

and in between Orchi asked of your real intentions...without getting much of an answer from you...

but now you posted among others...the following...which has gotten Orchi all freaking confused...heavy metal poisoning...???

Chelation therapy in which EDTA is intravenously feeded, there are bound to be some side effects. It is similar to what we experienced when we lose around 400cc of blood due to some shock our brain experienced...um..I'm not a doctor, but I've donated blood many times and doctors told me that..

But if EDTA would be feeded orally, in some form of medicine or some other method, what would we benefit? I am interested in both if the latter is available.

I have to agree that surgery is the best to treat atherosclerosis but what about heavy metal poisoning?

Malaysia doctors aren't that bad. The point in me meeting them up is to find out more about them, why they choose chelation method, what are the side effects, etc etc, and not by written comments by some other people. It is not to say that the postings against chelation method is not without base, but it is just curiosity. You know, people says curiosity kills.

[Joe Gomez]

au contraire ..............

DR MOHD EBRAHIM SULAIMAN of Malaysia Society for Complementary Therapies wishes to differ here (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Monday/Letters/20051219092201/Article/indexb_html) ..............

[orchipalar]

au contraire ..............

DR MOHD EBRAHIM SULAIMAN of Malaysia Society for Complementary Therapies wishes to differ here (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Monday/Letters/20051219092201/Article/indexb_html) ..............Err...dear JG Sir:)...is this chelation therapy recognized by medical Insurers?

[palmdoc]

Palmdoc wishes to differ here :p

Chelation Claims (http://medicine.com.my/wp/?p=484)

And deaths from chelation have been reported btw:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05237/559756.stm
http://www.quackwatch.org/14Legal/pmg.html

[alucard_my]

Sorry for the absence from this thread..What do you guys think about oral chelation?

[orchipalar]

Err...would you please consider to do your research at health forum...? (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/forumdisplay.php?f=100)

[palmdoc]

Err...would you please consider to do your research at health forum...? (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/forumdisplay.php?f=100)

I may be mistaken but it seems to me that the health forum posts do not appear in the "frontpage" so people may be reluctant to post there. I see Leisure, Cari Makan etc but not the Health forum.

[Joe Gomez]

Sorry for the absence from this thread..What do you guys think about oral chelation?If the discussion is about chelation .... i.e. pluses & minuses .......... why shd it matter if it administered orally or iv ?

[VeeJay]

I may be mistaken but it seems to me that the health forum posts do not appear in the "frontpage" so people may be reluctant to post there. I see Leisure, Cari Makan etc but not the Health forum.
Most of time when I log on to the forum I click at the "New Post" link to view all the latest post, as such one could see all the latest post on all threads...so you wont miss it...just a thought...

[Tham]

Whether your aunt goes for the angioplasty or not, she could consider chelation therapy
as a treatment option or preventative after the procedure against restenosis.

Chelation has its fair share of ill-informed critics and so-called "quackwatchers", but
some years ago, I happened to meet this retired Chinese architect in his 60s at Fairchem
Pharmacy in Jalan SS2, PJ.

I found out that he had had no less than FIVE blockages in his coronary arteries, but
he refused the usual bypass procedures and instead went for chelation therapy done
by the famed Dr Maung Ebrahim, the Muslim Burmese doctor in Amcorp Mall at that time.

He said he had trouble walking even up gentle slopes before the chelation, but after some
30 sessions, he was able to do so without problems. Along with the treatment, he was
started on a comprehensive regimen of supplements, which he continued after the
chelation course was over, or rather tapered off to just one session a month as a
preventative.

I believe he mentioed Dr Ebrahim used a noninvasive form of angiography to assess him.

There are several other doctors around town who also practise chelation, one being
a Dr Bala in his clinic in Sunway Mentari, and Dr Tang Ming Hao in Damansara Perdana.

Dr Tang uses a Swiss-developed phosphatidylcholine-based formula, in addition
to standard EDTA chelation.

[Tham]

Palmdoc wishes to differ here :p

http://www.quackwatch.org/14Legal/pmg.html



An old thread, but incidentally, the owner of that "Quackwatch", Stephen Barrrett, is an
ill-informed idiot (a psychiatric dropout actually) who has nothing better to do than go around
hunting down and belittling every form of alternative medical therapy he finds, including this
life extension organization, whose forum I take part in :

http://www.imminst.org/about


There is one bottom line : Just wait till he himself gets cancer - then don't be surprised
if you find him running up and down hunting down EVERY form of alternative treatment
option he can find, hoping to save his own skin, clutching at straws.



" Quackbusters Are Busted "

http://www.gaia-health.com/articles251/000277-quackbusters-are-busted.shtml



" Barrett was cornered in a Federal case in the State of Oregon not long ago,
and asked about his income. He testified that over the past two years he made
a TOTAL of $54,000.

How then does he afford to carry on fourteen (14) separate legal actions at one time ?

If each legal action cost him $100,000, that would come to 1.4 million dollars ($1,400,000).

How do you squeeze $1.4 million out of a $54,000 total income ? "


" In a Canadian lawsuit, Barrett admitted to the following:

"The sole purpose of the activities of Barrett & Baratz are to discredit and cause damage
and harm to health care practitioners, businesses that make alternative health therapies
or products available, and advocates of non-allopathic therapies and health freedom."

Stephen Barrett testifies for money. He claims he's an "expert" in virtually everything.
Those "expert witness" fees seem to be a significant part of Barrett's existence. "


http://www.quackpotwatch.org/quackpots/quackpots/barrett.htm

[palmdoc]

Anecdotal experience unfortunately makes very poor level of evidence for whether a particular treatment works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

Clinical trials are currently the best way to study if a particular treatment is effective. For chelation and heart disease, the just concluded TACT trial unfortunately did not give conclusive answers though there was some attempt at positive spin in the lay press. It was only marginally better than placebo in the best interpretation.
A critical analysis can be found here:
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/11/05/the-results-of-the-unethical-and-misbegotten-trial-to-asess-chelation-therapy/

[kwchang]

As the effectiveness of chelation is not medically and scientifically proven to be beneficial, I am afraid this should be moved to the channel on "Health - true or false". If it remains in the main forum, readers would think it is a proven fact and that can be dangerous ....
at the moment I am leaving a temporary redirect link on the main forum so interested parties can find that it has moved

[Tham]

With due respect, how could it be seen as "dangerous" ?

Virtually all reasonably mature and intelligent forum users would have the
common sense to assess that a topic on chelation therapy in a generaly layman's
forum is just what is it - a discussion, and would know how to use their discretion
in judging for themselves the validity or otherwise of it, not immediately jump to
the conclusion that it is a "proven" option to a bypass.



The Trial to Assess Chelation Therapy (TACT)

It is pretty obvious that the majority of the critics of this apparently positive study
were those cardiothoracic surgeons and cardiologists from the AHA, not to mention the
pharmaceutical companies, who do not want to see their "rice bowl" undermined.

Imagine the repercussions on their livelihood if the public were to learn that chelation
therapy is now a "proven" option to bypasses and conventional treatment for blocked
heart arteries ?

Regardless, whatever these dissidents say are not going to make any difference
to the 150,000 Americans, and growing by 10,000 each year, using chelation therapy.


" Chelation-therapy heart trial draws fire "

http://www.nature.com/news/chelation-therapy-heart-trial-draws-fire-1.11800



http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00044213


EDTA chelation reappraisal following new clinical trials and regular use in millions
of patients: review of preliminary findings and risk/benefit assessment.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/230883793_EDTA_chelation_reappraisal_following_new _clinical_trials_and_regular_use_in_millions_of_pa tients_review_of_preliminary_findings_and_riskbene fit_assessment



Questions and Answers: The NIH Trial of EDTA Chelation Therapy
for Coronary Heart Disease

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/news/press-releases/supplement/questions-and-answers-the-nih-trial-of-edta-chelation-therapy-for-coronary-heart-disease.html


Design of the Trial to Assess Chelation Therapy (TACT)

http://www.ahjonline.com/article/S0002-8703(11)00715-0/fulltext



Clinical Trial Protocol, Trial to Assess Chelation Therapy (TACT). Version 2, pp. 1-53.

http://www.circare.org/tact/tactprotocolv2_20030530.pdf


Clinical Trial Protocol, Trial to Assess Chelation Therapy (TACT). Version 2, pp. 54-93.

http://www.circare.org/tact/tactprotocolv2b_20030530.pdf



Protocol for Administration of EDTA Chelation Therapy, (updated 2012)

http://drcranton.com/chelation/standingorders.htm



EDTA and Chelation Therapy: History and Mechanisms of Action, an Update

http://gordonresearch.com/articles_oral_chelation/edtachel.html



Scientific Rationale for EDTA Chelation Therapy in Treatment
of Atherosclerosis and Diseases of Aging

http://drcranton.com/chelation/freeradical.htm



The improvement in renal function following EDTA chelation and multi-
vitamin-trace mineral therapy: a study in creatinine clearance.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6441110



EDTA chelation therapy in chronic degenerative disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3144646



Chelation Therapy for Vascular Disease

" Not only did Ernst omit important information, he also listed an inaccurate reference
for the meta-analysis by Chappell and Stahl. The meta-analysis contains reports
from thousands of patients with vascular disease who have been successfully treated
with EDTA chelation therapy, some of whom were told by cardiologists that there was
nothing else that could be done to help them. This alone is sufficient reason to allow
patients the option of receiving the therapy, and it should be a compelling reason for
adequate clinical trials to be accomplished. "

http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/99/1/164.full



The Politics of EDTA Chelation

" Organizations like the American Heart Association and the American Medical Association,
which condemn EDTA chelation as ineffective for treating vascular disease, often quote the
Danish and New Zealand studies, mentioned earlier, to support their position. What they
fail to mention is that the Danish studies were criticized by the Danish Committee for
Investigation into Scientific Dishonesty because of improper randomization and double-blinding,
as well as premature breaking of the blinding code, which amounted to a deliberate bias. When
the results of the New Zealand study were examined by two independent statisticians, it was
concluded that the trial actually supported the efficacy of EDTA. "Virtually every study that has
looked at the efficacy of EDTA chelation in vascular disease has demonstrated significant
improvements."

It is unlikely that any other issue in modern medicine has been more highly politicized than
that of EDTA chelation therapy, and it is clear that most of the opposition to EDTA is due to
the threat this therapy represents, not to patients' health but to the bank balances of orthodox
physicians, pharmaceutical companies, and hospitals. Treating cardiovascular diseases is
big business in the United States (and the rest of the Western world), bringing in tens of billions
of dollars each year.

As Garry Gordon, MD, DO, the "Father of Chelation Therapy" has pointed out, "Every time a
surgeon does a heart bypass, he takes home a luxury sports car." Each CABG procedure
costs between $25,000 and $50,000; each angioplasty costs about $15,000; drugs for
reducing cholesterol, lowering high blood pressure, and normalizing heart rhythm bring the
pharmaceutical industry hundreds of millions of dollars each year. And these are just the most
common examples. What happens when you add EDTA chelation therapy to this mix
"



http://www.life-enhancement.com/magazine/article/78-edta-chelation-the-real-miracle-therapy-for-vascular-disease

[sweetiewong77]

Err...Allucard:)...ya seems to be persistence in promoting the chelation therapy ...which was only approved by FDA for treatment of heavy metal poisoning ONLY... (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:hDpvaGfdUCYJ:health.yahoo.com/ency/healthwise/ty3205spec+Federal+Drug+Administration+chelation+t herapy&hl=en&client=firefox-a)??

Err...why don't ya tell us exactly what you have in mind...otherthan quoting your own version of a reference to the one so called Dr. Gary Gordon's case with a group of heart practitioners or something...???

Ahem...btw...about the link to the findings about chelation therapy...by the American Heart Association(AHA)...you might wanna try again tomorrow...coz it was working yesterday...

OR...perhaps ya might wanna refer to this first...ahem...before ya might get Orchi to loose some more sleep on this thread...:)

Interpretation of Statutes Regarding Chelation Therapy

The State Medical Board of Ohio issues the following statement regarding the use of chelation therapy by licensed physicians:

l) Chelation therapy has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (hereinafter "F.D.A.") for a limited number of indications, one of which is for the treatment of heavy metal poisoning.

2) Chelation therapy has not been approved by the F.D.A. for such indications as cancer or arteriosclerosis.

3) Since the F.D.A. has not approved chelation therapy for some indications, a physician who uses chelation therapy for unapproved uses could be in violation of Sections 4731.22(B)(2), (3) and (6), Ohio Revised Code, as well as any applicable F.D. A. regulations.

4) As set forth in Title 21, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 312, which is attached, an Ohio physician can use chelation therapy for an unapproved use for investigational or research work. To obtain clearance for investigational or research work, please contact the following section of the F.D.A.:

Document and Records Service Section (HFN-106)
Bureau of Drugs and Biologics
Food and Drug Administration
5600 Fishers Lane
Rockville, Maryland 20857

http://med.ohio.gov/positionpapers/chelate.htm

is this been approved by the health department??

[jimmyay]

Any chelation clinic nearby Subang? My dad been to Sunway Medical and that doctor sucks. Quote one price and then bill another one. When highlight to him, he grumble and give the original price.

[Tham]

Any chelation clinic nearby Subang? My dad been to Sunway Medical and that doctor sucks. Quote one price and then bill another one. When highlight to him, he grumble and give the original price.


Try Dr Ebrahim at the Ampwalk.

http://www.academycmt.com/


There's also a Dr Bala at Sunway Mentari.