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mackzulkifli
21-08-2005, 01:43 AM
The upcoming Merdeka Day celebration is an important National event. I just like to hear from my esteemed peers in here, what does the Merdeka Day mean to you, individually. Some of us were born after the Merdeka Day, or are too young to remember. How do we keep that spirit alive in ourselves? Share your thoughts and experience OK.

BTW, anyone here was at the Padang Merdeka when it happened?

orchipalar
21-08-2005, 01:52 AM
Independence ~ Freedom from control or influence of another or others

Err...dear Mack:)...to Orchi...it simply means exactly that... :)

mon
21-08-2005, 02:24 AM
Holiday!! ;) ...on a lighter side of note..

personally, i'll be reminded again of how fortunate i am to be born here despite all de unpleasant happenings around nowadays..still, this is where i'm gonna stay put n would learn to appreciate life as it comes n goes everyday; the reality is it's short..
Fingers crossed...will try to take on new responsibilities towards my work and to my family and to reappraise my life structure while there is still time :)

..and enjoy the holidays.. :) :)

jand
21-08-2005, 11:22 AM
that I am a bumiputera. Granted, not a muslim bumiputera but Malaysian bumiputera!!

Strong words. And will rile up the umnoputras but I do not recall the word bumiputera being trademarked. In every sense of the word, I am.

/me watches out for the ISA bouncers.

kwchang
21-08-2005, 12:05 PM
With regards National Day parades, I was one tiny speck in the massed calistenics display in Merdeka Stadium when I was in Secondary school. I still remember the awesome feeling of pride and nationalism when we first marched into the stadium as the army band struck up the music. Thousands of people in the stands and me down on the track trying to march in unison. It was a good feeling for a teenager.

Now, in my old age, National Day is just another public holiday. However, I still put up the Malaysian flag in my front yard, regardless how the politicians harp on racial issues and my constant reminder from them that I am only a 2nd class citizen. I put up the flag because this is MY country. It is on MY property that I am paying for with my own hands - and I know my hands are CLEAN, uncorrupted, did not receive any handout. The flag is there to remind my children that we are MALAYSIANs after all, regardless.

Joe Gomez
21-08-2005, 12:42 PM
Many Happy Returns of the Day, Malaysia.
From a putra of this bumi.


BTW, anyone here was at the Padang Merdeka when it happened?I am old enough to have been there. But was too far away in teh South to make it to KL. Somoe my late Papa-san no kereta .......... and me from deep, deep, deep ladang in Johor.
But I still remember the tears in his eyes when he explained the cheers of MERDEKA. MERDEKA, MERDEKA that was coming over the radio.
Well he lived to see his children being pushed aside as 2nd class citizens.
He lived to see his wife's ( my late Mum's ) application for full citizenshiop rejected.
He lived to see her leave this world as a holder of a red IC.
By the grace God's infinite Mercy, he is not around now to find out that Khir Toyo's Dad came from Indonesia & became a bumiputra ......... & so did his kith and kin.
The hypocrisy hurts.
For every wave of a kris, by a moron in UMNO, BN is losing support ............ u can bet on that. This idiotic act after this many years of Independence was totally avoidable, unnecessary & needlessly incendiary.

The arrogance of the majority belies the sanctity of Independence.

Integration with the likes of Hishamuddin around ????? Very unlikely.

aroki
21-08-2005, 12:44 PM
It means to me Independence, pride and proud to be a Malaysian.Also reminds me of our forefathers who work hard to make this a successful nation.Yes proud...regardless of what race politics is played in the latest episodes of our wonderful BN.

My hope the nation will progress well and we shall all share the prosperity as well as the burden that the country faces.United we stand together...disunited...so lets stay united Malaysian. We have gone thru 48 years fairly successfully. I'm sure we can guide the ship for another 48 years with success. I really hope we can come together. I've been to many countries who were way advance of us decades ago and now if you see them eg.Myanmar,Philippinies, you just hope it will never happen to us. We should not let what out forefathers work hard to gain, to go down the drain.

Merdeka Malaysia!!! Merdeka! Merdeka!! :) :) :)

USJ27Resident
21-08-2005, 02:57 PM
It means to me Independence, pride and proud to be a Malaysian.Also reminds me of our forefathers who work hard to make this a successful nation.Yes proud...regardless of what race politics is played in the latest episodes of our wonderful BN.

My hope the nation will progress well and we shall all share the prosperity as well as the burden that the country faces.United we stand together...disunited...so lets stay united Malaysian. We have gone thru 48 years fairly successfully. I'm sure we can guide the ship for another 48 years with success. I really hope we can come together. I've been to many countries who were way advance of us decades ago and now if you see them eg.Myanmar,Philippinies, you just hope it will never happen to us. We should not let what out forefathers work hard to gain, to go down the drain.

Merdeka Malaysia!!! Merdeka! Merdeka!! :) :) :)



Our forefathers would be proud of you :) .... and of others that share your sentiments! Merdeka is to be proud of being a Malaysian, of our country and of our flag....

GreenBug
21-08-2005, 06:50 PM
One who is based overseas for many donkey years (like yours truly) will feel much more longing and pride for the country. After seeing the other neighbors and staying there, believe me, there is nothing like home.

Malaysia will always be MY home, MY country, (keris or no keris) because that was where I was born, where my Mum and Dad were born, and where their Mum and Dad were born! No one can take that away from me!

I am a third generation Malaysian. Khir Toyo is second generation.... can someone tell me how come he is 'son of the soil' and i have to toil the soil....? :mad:

Ski
21-08-2005, 07:48 PM
I asked my teenage son what Merdeka meant for him. "Nothing, I am not interested in politics but as long as you top up my pocket money to have fun with friends thats my Merdeka, thanks papa"

Bigjoe
21-08-2005, 08:38 PM
I think Malaysian should see that Merdeka meant independence from foreigners but not from ourselves. Despite what elite UMNO/BN tell you, Malaysia does not have a formula that works. We have to know that we have been lucky not really smart. We have not made serious mistakes but we have not taken the fate of our nation in our hand. We depend on oil revenue, migrant labour, strong institutions and foundation left by our colonial masters including EPF, hard working and tolerant minorities, foreign investments etc. We are far from independent as a national system

tan_r
21-08-2005, 09:47 PM
Just do not forget to fly the Jalur Gemilang.

USJ27Resident
22-08-2005, 12:20 AM
Just do not forget to fly the Jalur Gemilang.


I have :D on every post - and will keep in here for a while too... :p

orchipalar
22-08-2005, 12:22 AM
Err...as a mark of protest...to the so called...certain Youth's chief n certain 25 years old minister...ahem...the Jalur Gemilang...stays in Orchi's closet... :o

aroki
22-08-2005, 12:55 AM
Err...as a mark of protest...to the so called...certain Youth's chief n certain 25 years old minister...ahem...the Jalur Gemilang...stays in Orchi's closet... :o
orchi san screw him. he is not the country or the flag.We don't owe him anything, loyalty included. His deputy fell of his high horse today.or the polo ball whack him..no no it was not a mca man throwing some balls at him cos they have no balls.MIC too no balls. Lucky no kris in his belt..if not get cut somewhere. Next will be the kris man himself..luck is not on their side it seems. So fly the flag my friend, it is our country no matter what he says.Show him we are Malaysian, no matter what sh!t he throws to divide us.

Fly it man. Mine is up tomorrow until Sept 17th cos Sept 16th is Malaysia day. Do it every year.

USJ27Resident
22-08-2005, 01:11 AM
orchi san screw him. he is not the country or the flag.We don't owe him anything, loyalty included. His deputy fell of his high horse today.or the polo ball whack him..no no it was not a mca man throwing some balls at him cos they have no balls.MIC too no balls. Lucky no kris in his belt..if not get cut somewhere. Next will be the kris man himself..luck is not on their side it seems. So fly the flag my friend, it is our country no matter what he says.Show him we are Malaysian, no matter what sh!t he throws to divide us.

Fly it man. Mine is up tomorrow until Sept 17th cos Sept 16th is Malaysia day. Do it every year.

Good on you sir... another proud2b malaysian in our ranks... :)

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idolfan
22-08-2005, 06:02 PM
Can we read into public sentiment by whether there are lots of flags being flown during Merdeka Week ?

We probably can.. the better the economy and the happier the rakyat are , the more flags will be visible.

orchipalar
22-08-2005, 06:13 PM
Err...Orchi has seen it too many times...politikus could be great spin doctors...ahem...just when everybody thinks everything is alright...out of patriotism...everybody would fly the Jalur Gemilang happily...n the politikus would be quick to point out...err...see the rakyats are very happy lots...irrespective of what the politikus do...

Ahem...should it happens...when fewer would fly the Jalur Gemilang...as a mark of protest...of certain injustice done by them freaking politikus...err...they might take us seriously...? :rolleyes:

aroki
22-08-2005, 06:15 PM
Ahem...should it happens...when few would fly the Jalur Gemilang...as a mark of protest...of certain injustice done by them freaking politikus...err...they might take us seriously...? :rolleyes:
to get to them is election time. Fly no fly, they don't know or too far from it. They only know how to fly kite.The flag and the country is above them. Our loyalty is to the country. These ppl come and go but the country remains.

cao buddy. :)

Joe Gomez
22-08-2005, 09:47 PM
Imagine this interview during the Merdeka season ......

Correspondent from foreign radio/TV/media :
Sir, how far has national integration, pride for the nation, love for the country taken root among Malaysians after almost half a century of Independence ?

Kadir Sheikh Fadhir :
Why ask me ?
Look at the flags flying for the whole world to see ....... Flags put out by Malaysians in a spontaneous show of patriotism, love, pride for the country .....
Look for your self.
If you heard that I had prodded Malaysians, or forced or arm twisted all businesses to fly the flag it is all a rumour that only people like you, you imperialist pigs, you no good Westerners, can deliberately start with the sole intention of discrediting us Malaysians, belittling us third worlders, demeaning all Asian values. We will make sure that we will call your Ambassaor to lodge a strong protest. We will picket outside your Embassy. We will register a strong protest at your insinuation that we a less patriotic than the average Westerner. We will wave krises. Yes Hishammuddin will be there.
I will wave a kris to prove that I am more Malay than the average Malay.
I got more to prove mah ( this comment to the journalist from Hong Kong lor :D )????
Have fun guys.

kwchang
22-08-2005, 11:15 PM
JG,
Making what-if stories with intention to slander somebody's character. I believe there are limits to what one can do in a respectible public forum ... unless of course it is meant to discredit the whole Forum and to bring down our standards. We will not allow anyone to bring our levels of integrity to the backlane gutters.
You really want the banana don't you?

bobkee
23-08-2005, 12:40 PM
I belong to the generation that was born immediately after 1969, you know, the one they say should be the harbinger for a more united and prosperous Malaysia, since we supposedly don't have the historical baggage carried from our pre-Independence, pre-racial riot days.

Sigh .. what can I say? Unfortunately there are those intent on bringing that baggage forward to this day and age where we are just 2 years short of our Golden Jubilee as a nation (are we even a nation yet?). Stuff like the kris waving or Chinese solidarity nonsense that mocks our very existence as a sovereign and independent state.

Fortunately, there are occasional flickers of light in the darkness and this gives me hope in our trek towards nationhood. We will make it yet.

And for that reason, I will continue to fly my Jalur Gemilang in my study and probably unfurl my old Perak & Penang flag as well (as a reminder to me of the Federation that we are supposed to be). Maybe next year, when I don't feel so alienated, I might even add the flag of my adopted state, Selangor :)

Di atas robohan Kota Melaka,
Kita dirikan jiwa merdeka.
Bersatu-padulah segenap baka,
Membela hak keadilan pusaka

- Dr. Burhanuddin Al-Helmy (http://www.niknazmi.com/commentaries/archives/000066.html), circa 1946

tictactoe
23-08-2005, 02:39 PM
Many years ago a Mat Saleh I met on the street ( complete stranger ) asked me if I feel I am more a M'sian or a Chinese. At that time I was one of the contry's top scholars with no local scholarship and I was bitter. Guess what my answer was? Now, with a lot of water under the bridge. I know I am a M'sian and no one can take that fact away. If you are capable, no one can pull you back. BTW, my ancestors were long before here before Khir Toyo's father was born and I am the kaum pendatang. In my books the only people who deserve to be "bumiputera" are the ornag asli - the most marginalised community in this country.

Ski
23-08-2005, 03:45 PM
Merdeka for me will always to remember and appreciate how our forefathers were brave enough to travel in rough waters to come to Malaya to seek a fortune and the same time give this country a pushstart and a framework for progress and prosperity. They toiled with blood sweat and tears in plantations, tin mines. civil offices, medical, utilitie depts, construction sites raliway lines, teaching, traders, just to name a few.
I salute them for making this our home.

Cheerz

bslee
23-08-2005, 04:33 PM
The very last time I enjoyed the spirit of Merdeka was back in 1967 -10th anniversary..no silly racial issues, no religion nonsense, scandals, no water rationing, no electrical outrages, no price inflation, no tolls, no Proton! and NO haze!..what a nice place it was...
So what is Aug 31st to me?.. just another public holiday and can't go to KayEL as major roads blocked..so much for Merdeka! :D

Joe Gomez
24-08-2005, 11:59 AM
Imagine this interview during the Merdeka season ......

Correspondent from foreign radio/TV/media :
Sir, how far has national integration, pride for the nation, love for the country taken root among Malaysians after almost half a century of Independence ?

Kadir Sheikh Fadhir :
Why ask me ?
Look at the flags flying for the whole world to see ....... Flags put out by Malaysians in a spontaneous show of patriotism, love, pride for the country .....
Look for your self.
If you heard that I had prodded Malaysians, or forced or arm twisted all businesses to fly the flag it is all a rumour that only people like you, you imperialist pigs, you no good Westerners, can deliberately start with the sole intention of discrediting us Malaysians, belittling us third worlders, demeaning all Asian values. We will make sure that we will call your Ambassaor to lodge a strong protest. We will picket outside your Embassy. We will register a strong protest at your insinuation that we a less patriotic than the average Westerner. We will wave krises. Yes Hishammuddin will be there.
I will wave a kris to prove that I am more Malay than the average Malay.
I got more to prove mah ( this comment to the journalist from Hong Kong lor :D )????
Have fun guys.To salvage my standing with the changster ( which in the recent past does not seem to rise above the plantain level :D ) let me try to give my comments a non-slanderous spin .......

Is it not rather unfortunate that we Malaysians need to be prodded ...... nay coaxed .......... nay forced to fly the Jalur Gemilang, when such acts, to be genuine, shd be spontaneous ?
What, may I ask, wld the casual observer from overseas impute from such instruction from The Right / Left Honourable Minister himself ?
There ......... I think even chang shd be pleased .....

pst .. pst ......... For everyone else's info ....... I am trying to get out of the plantain plantation earlier by sucking up to chang now ..... I have had a lot of practice sucking up to Lee Hwa Beng ...... :D :cool: Pls dont get me wrong .............. Sunwaykid, pcyeoh, aroki, are all great company in the plantation ...... but one cant live on bananas alone 4 2 long u c .........