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ng
30-06-2005, 07:46 PM
I am wondering why people are not lobbying for Subang Jaya LRT seeing as how the traffic will increase in the future and the price of oil will also increase. :confused:

Don't wait until there are no more vacant land in subang jaya before lobbying. It will be too late then !

I am suggesting 2 LRT, one in Subang jaya and one in USJ. Preferably another LRT at sunway and another LRT at Tesco, Puchong.

Another know whether this is in progress ?

xweird
30-06-2005, 07:51 PM
hmm if LRT system is introduced:

1) more trees chopped to make way for the LRT tracks
2) construction noise near residential areas

but... yes subang/usj needs a mass transit system...

isarahim
30-06-2005, 08:02 PM
but... yes subang/usj needs a mass transit system...

Even worse. The whole of Klang Valley is in desperate need for a mass transit system. Because there ain't one today.

Vixey
30-06-2005, 08:17 PM
Just a question, forgive me if I sound rather ignorant, but I am blur when it comes to things like construction and engineering.

How difficult is it when housing areas are developed and highways are built to access those areas, for a mainframe of a LRT or MRT system to be built?

Like when they were constructing our current rail system thats overground, the concrete "towers" that hold the track up usually straddles the road, why can't they do a Master Plan, pinpoint areas and put these in place first?

If Bandar Sunway, can have that little caterpillar going about from Pyramid to the college etc why couldn't they have done something like that years ago?

clfoo
30-06-2005, 08:41 PM
I am wondering why people are not lobbying for Subang Jaya LRT someone brought it up before but was told in dunno what plan and dunno what hold them back, now is a good time to let it resurface .. better late than never ..


why couldn't they have done something like that years ago? if there is proper planning then you are not in bolehland oledi :rolleyes:

if somebody is looking for a get rich quick scheme .. then build LRT route into Puchong, Subang/USJ and Shah Alam area sure heboh one ... can either extend Putra from kelana jaya depot, or STAR from Bukit Jalil ... the only unhappy lot will be the highway operators ...

USJ 17 Rep
30-06-2005, 08:49 PM
Yeh, i guess it has been on SJ residence minds for quite a while. Seems to me the LRT only serves areas where the local MP has really good connections. Whne i was back in KL two years ago, i remember stopping at a few stations in KL that seemed empty in the afternoon.

I fully support the proposal to build an LRT station in USJ and another one in Subang. Where do you sign a petition to pressure the Subang MP to lobby for two stations?

aroki
30-06-2005, 09:18 PM
check this posting (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=66915&postcount=1) by Mr.PC Yeoh. Mentions LRT at SJ/USJ but loaction is not mentioned. Guess need to wait for the subang jaya structual plan.

yvonnefoong
30-06-2005, 09:42 PM
I support LRT in Subang!! The KTM is SOOOO slow.

ceo684
30-06-2005, 10:56 PM
Ya, LRT that joins somewhere near carrefour wud be perfect. The LRT bus is sickening

aroki
30-06-2005, 11:12 PM
Ya, LRT that joins somewhere near carrefour wud be perfect. The LRT bus is sickeningthat would be logical stop/station plus continuing to USJ, maybe a stop near the summit/taipan.and beyond...Puchong..near the IPD? ;)

Icehart
30-06-2005, 11:18 PM
Why dont we have underground train or in another word subway?

shamalasp
01-07-2005, 09:30 AM
I would help lobby for this for sure.

balitan
01-07-2005, 10:29 AM
i support LRT in usj/ subang jaya

bearing in mind the present LRT system, any suggestion HOW

the proposed LRT can be connected to the existing LRT ????

any planners around ???

ksj_cool
01-07-2005, 11:07 AM
We have enough noise pollution in Subang Jaya, so lets have it but away from the houses :D

Firefly
01-07-2005, 11:22 AM
LRT, MRT or what it called...Subway is all in the name of profit...(for who, I would not know)

There is actually a plan for one which starts from the Mosque in front of Subang Parade and heads along Jalan Tujuan towards the Kesas Highway. It then turns towards the Summit/ Giant and from there towards Puchong thru USJ pass all the Goodyear courts.

This is all extracted from the proposed draft structural plans. Somehow, the link seems to be to the komuter station which is not efficient.

How is it that the Putra LRT line is not extended to Subang Parade or Carrfour? It would serve the mass better if this was done and a better feeder bus system is estabilished.

aroki
01-07-2005, 12:08 PM
Firefly,

Thanks for sharing this. It is great to know there are ppl who have the info are willing to share instead of being kiasu and keeping it to themselves(maybe they think it will make them smarter than others)

A station near the KTM Subang station will be best. they may have reasons for having it at the mosque instead due to alignment of the tracks that will be coming from Kelana Jaya. We need to give our feedback when they display the structual plan for comments. And hopefully rapid KL will have a say now that they are responsible for most of the public transport systems including Putra.

Firefly
01-07-2005, 12:40 PM
Rapid or not, still the same thing under a different badge. The owners only look at profit. :( We need a reliable feeder bus that runs around the whole Subang Jaya/USJ. (Some transport planner gotta go to our neighbour and learn from them)

BTW, the plan I have is too small to really indentify the actual start of the Light rail transport. The line is drawn from the mosque along the path said earlier mentioned. Whether it starts from Subang Parade or the front of the mosque is not indicated on the plan. Feel free to take a look tonight. (P.S. Pls bring along a magnifying glass.)

ceo684
01-07-2005, 01:22 PM
Maybe push putra LRT to increase the no. of buses @ peak hour for the 900B? Can take an hour just to get to c4 from LRT at 7pm.

Rapid KL banyak buses ;)

idolfan
01-07-2005, 01:45 PM
(Some transport planner gotta go to our neighbour and learn from them)




hmmm.. maybe more than the transport planner , MBs and others who are in decision making positions thanks to the rakyat, should swallow pride and do likewise.

ng
01-07-2005, 02:05 PM
There is actually a plan for one which starts from the Mosque in front of Subang Parade and heads along Jalan Tujuan towards the Kesas Highway. It then turns towards the Summit/ Giant and from there towards Puchong thru USJ pass all the Goodyear courts.

.

Firefly, is it possible to scan your plan and post in this website so that everybody can look and comment on it ? :D

Where did you get the plan from ? :)

Firefly
01-07-2005, 04:43 PM
It's from the last briefing organised by JKP 1 and Yb Loh.

lbn
01-07-2005, 05:00 PM
In order to beat the traffic congestion, the LRT should not stop only at Subang Jaya. It should run into USJ/SJ with stops in major points, such as Subang Parade, Summit, Taipan, SS19 and SS15 Town Centre. ;)

ng
02-07-2005, 11:37 AM
It's from the last briefing organised by JKP 1 and Yb Loh.


For those who didn't attend JKP1, can you kindly tell us when is it going to be implemented ?

ng
02-07-2005, 11:39 AM
In order to beat the traffic congestion, the LRT should not stop only at Subang Jaya. It should run into USJ/SJ with stops in major points, such as Subang Parade, Summit, Taipan, SS19 and SS15 Town Centre. ;)


There is this problem of vacant land ! You cannot build LRT stations at such spots if there are no more land. You can build overhead LRT lines over existing roads but you must have vacant land to build the station and the parking lots near the station.

That is why it is important to plan the stations before all the vacant lands have been taken ! :)

Firefly
05-07-2005, 11:13 AM
How very true... Looking at the Draft of a draft Structural plan, the Subang Jaya proposed light rail transit do not have any station indicated. Maybe this light train is not for us to use after all.

lbn
05-07-2005, 11:49 AM
I suggest we should meet and brain storm on the new town plan. Let's make things happen! Can those who represent the residents in the Council, please set the time and venue for us to meet to give a practical proposal on our commuter transport system? This will ensure the operators can make money and ease the enduring traffic problem which we're now facing.

bobkee
05-07-2005, 05:48 PM
Sure it's a mass transit system? Somehow I have a feeling that Subang Jaya and USJ residents have only one purpose for MPSJ and the State government, to pay our local taxes. We tend to get the short end of the shaft all the time.

aroki
05-07-2005, 06:56 PM
I suggest we should meet and brain storm on the new town plan. Let's make things happen! Can those who represent the residents in the Council, please set the time and venue for us to meet to give a practical proposal on our commuter transport system? This will ensure the operators can make money and ease the enduring traffic problem which we're now facing.you will end up talking the the wall or cyber space in this case ...good luck if you can get a response.

ivanhow
06-07-2005, 01:18 AM
It's from the last briefing organised by JKP 1 and Yb Loh.
Glad JKP1 still conduct briefings.
BTW Firefly, When was the briefing held?

mysticalangel
06-07-2005, 01:47 PM
If Bandar Sunway, can have that little caterpillar going about from Pyramid to the college etc why couldn't they have done something like that years ago?

I thot the monorail at bdr sunway not in operation already?

newpdg003
27-08-2006, 04:26 PM
Honest to say that, don't think the MRT (mass transit system) is possible apply in our public transport system. First of all is our land quality, the soils are too soft and require the high technology to construct the foundation before builds MRT station and tube.
This means that government have to spend a lot of money to have tube systems in Klang valley unless the private company like YTL can sponsor for it.

anyway I welcome the LRT expand their line come over in Subang area.

Sugarfree
27-08-2006, 06:23 PM
I'm all for it. :cool:

chin_wan
28-08-2006, 09:18 AM
If Bandar Sunway, can have that little caterpillar going about from Pyramid to the college etc why couldn't they have done something like that years ago?

Bad planning.

chookyan
29-08-2006, 05:32 PM
:rolleyes:
I'm all for it. :cool:

This just came in - WAIT 4 MORE YEARS
New LRT line to help ease traffic woes

Update by The Star Newsdesk

PUTRAJAYA: ...The new Kota Damansara line will cover some 30km, while the Putra LRT from Kelana Jaya line will be extended to cover Subang Jaya and USJ....

( Admin note - the link is http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/8/29/nation/20060829170310&sec=nation

Please do not copy from e-media. These are copyrighted materials. I have constantly warned people about this. Looks like nobody listens ...)

Raikonen
29-08-2006, 10:11 PM
By the time they finished the LRT in 4 years, it would not be sufficient anymore. Just look at the passenger traffic at peak times now. Y cant our planners be forward looking at once and not always look into their pockets? :mad:

AllUrban
30-08-2006, 11:29 AM
Um...what KL needs for the LRT system is 2 ring lines (outer and inner) and lines radiating out of the city centre like spokes of a wheel.

Im sorry to say but this isnt going to help much to bring transit to where it is needed.

I dont think we really all know what a mess this is going to be :p

First, the "new" line

That graphic that the Star posted/printed...is very misleading...

To run a line directly from Kota Damansara to Cheras...they will have a problem running through the city centre.

They will have to run along the same corridor that STAR LRT uses ...past Masjid Jamek and Jalan Pudu....

So how to do this? 3 ways.

1) A separate underground line that will run from Bank Negara past Masjid Jamek and along Jalan Pudu to Jalan Chan Sow Lin

2) A separate above ground line that will run from Bank Negara past Masjid Jamek and along Jalan Pudu to Jalan Chan Sow Lin....somehow this line will have to be built above the existing STAR Line

3) Integrate the new line into the existing STAR line guideway at Bank Negara and Jalan Chan Sow Lin, so that the new line uses the STAR line route in the city

Option 1 and 2 allow new technology to be used but the construction costs will be horribly high (elevated and/or underground construction in the city....eek)

Option 2 will ruin the appearance of the city

Option 3 will require that the new line be the same technology as the STAR line...the oldest technology that needs the most update...plus the fact that it will ruin the appearance of the city (think Siam Square station in Bangkok) and it will cost a lot of money and delay trains.

Second, the "extensions"

I recommend that SJ and USJ lobby for this extension to be built as a NEW line, not as a simple extension of the existing line. The benefit is that this will allow an extension from Lembah Subang up to Damansara in the future...which is desperately needed. However, the sacrifice is that there would likely be a change of trains at Lembah Subang.

As for the extension to Puchong...tell me why people in Puchong are going to use the LRT line to get to the city centre...not likely. The place where a line is needed is in the city...along Jalan Klang Lama and through Taman OUG and Seri Petaling...not along the KESAS highway.

Third, the "forgotten ones"

If transit is not built in places where people live, then people will not use transit. If you have to drive out of the way for some distance just to get to transit, what is to stop you from continuing on to the city using your car?

What is really needed is more reliable KTM service, a KTM extension from Sentul north to Batu Caves, a STAR line extension north from Sentul with branches to Sg. Buloh and Titiwangsa/Wangsa Maju....

Now that will make a difference!

And how about some cheaper things that will make a huge difference...

a) expand the city shuttle service
b) construct a busway running along the MRR I and II
c) construct a busway or bus-only lanes on the Federal Highway out to Klang, the Sg. Besi Highway to Kajang, and the LDP to Putrajaya, as well as other major roads in the Klang Valley such as Jalan Ipoh, Jalan Sultan Ismail, the Karak Highway, Jalan Kewajipan, Jalan Cheras, etc.

cheers, m

ng
30-08-2006, 12:11 PM
How short-sighted these people are !

USJ and Puchong is just next to each other and doesn't cost much to build a link across from Putra to Star. It would be infinitely more convenient and provide more options for the people if the link is established ! :(

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2006/8/30/nation/08map.jpg

jianwei85
30-08-2006, 01:42 PM
I think they would have run out of place 2 build the LRT stations by then. UNLESS like the thread starter said : "we must gazette land for the station" before more apartments/developments eat up land for the station.

Where to build? An available plot behind Wisma Consplant or Subang Parade? That's the nearest spot for an LRT Station if they plan an interchange of sorts. :confused:

AllUrban
30-08-2006, 03:20 PM
Where to build? An available plot behind Wisma Consplant or Subang Parade? That's the nearest spot for an LRT Station if they plan an interchange of sorts. :confused:Ive been watching this plot of land for sale on the other side of Jalan SS16/1 (at the foot of Jalan Jengka) since I got here.

If you want to make a horrible amount of money...buy it now, because that is the place where an LRT line that connects Kelana Jaya to Subang Jaya (and somehow runs along Jalan Jengka) is going to have to go.

Google earth photos show a very direct north-south route between Lembah Subang (where the Kelana Jaya line ends) and Subang Jaya KTM station. The route runs right through empty land in Glenmarie and connects directly to Jalan Jengka.

Another option would be to have the line running through Glenmarie along the road that connects to Jalan Tujuan, or through the hydro corridor that runs from Kelana Jaya to Subang, or following the Subang Kelana highway route.

I think that all of those would likely not work...too far away from Subang Jaya KTM, with turns that are too tight etc.

So, buy the land now (or get MPSJ to protect it).

Cheers, m

kwchang
30-08-2006, 06:23 PM
With the NPE straddling the Jengka traffic lights (ex-roundabout), it would be a deterant for the LRT engineers to head in a straight line from Glenmarie to Jengka. It can't fly over the Federal Highway near the Parade as there are a number of expensive apartments being built

It is possible the line will come down Jengka after it skirts the high points of the NPE and allurban could be right as Jalan Jengka is wide and underused - enough to build a track down to the Kesas end, then wind its way to Sunway and come in to USJ via USJ1, wind past the Goodyear Courts (large captive passenger traffic) and maybe end up in Taipan-2 or staddle the gas-pipeline near USJ17.

patrick
30-08-2006, 07:22 PM
........wind past the Goodyear Courts (large captive passenger traffic) and maybe end up in Taipan-2 ....

Whatever, I like your conjecture Chang! And I hope it will materialize. I am one of those who use the LRT alot and having one nearby would save me tons of stress driving to the LRT stations each time, not to mention contributing to the traffic congestions! Oh LRT.....please listen to Chang and come to Goodyear Courts !!! ;-)

fRaNkY
30-08-2006, 07:33 PM
I will be very happy to.... no need to drive to work and look for parking.

Theres lots lof land or drain between (behind) Goodyear courts and the commercial plots until the Subang Fishing pond. Hopefully, they think of this or else it will be major jam for people staying in Goodyear Courts, USJ14 to USJ21 and people exiting to puchong/klia/cyberjaya. :eek:

pcyeoh
30-08-2006, 10:57 PM
Ive been watching this plot of land for sale on the other side of Jalan SS16/1 (at the foot of Jalan Jengka) since I got here.

If you want to make a horrible amount of money...buy it now, because that is the place where an LRT line that connects Kelana Jaya to Subang Jaya (and somehow runs along Jalan Jengka) is going to have to go.

If I were you, I wouldn't eye that property. Do you know under the National Land Code 1967 Section 4 and Section 8 empowers the government to forcifully 'confiscate' your land for development purpose. The only thing you can bitch about is the compensation. Don't dream of even an equitable compensation. Take the most recent case of the Coliseum cinema. That poor doctor could only sob for what was offered to him for that choice premium property is a beggar's ransom - a mere RM 500,000. But he was smart. He enlisted the press in this case the people's paper called The Star and thanks to The Star, it drummed up so much public support for the doctor that the government have to call off the deal. When Putra was a private enterprise when they constructed their lines, they have to acquire a row of single storey houses for the Taman Bahagia station. I was then staying in one of those houses. I couldn't believe that they actually offered RM 330,00 for each house and the condition was that they wanted them vacant within the 3 months after payment was made. Since it was an attractive offer, all of them moved out immediately before they changed their mind. I was compensated 3 months of my rental. Actually I had planned to move out as getting in and out of the house was a pain in the neck especially the house I was staying was so close to the traffic lights. So buta buta I was paid 3 months rental to move out. And Subang Jaya here I come.

AllUrban
31-08-2006, 04:44 PM
With the NPE straddling the Jengka traffic lights (ex-roundabout), it would be a deterant for the LRT engineers to head in a straight line from Glenmarie to Jengka. It can't fly over the Federal Highway near the Parade as there are a number of expensive apartments being built

It is possible the line will come down Jengka after it skirts the high points of the NPE and allurban could be right as Jalan Jengka is wide and underused - enough to build a track down to the Kesas end, then wind its way to Sunway and come in to USJ via USJ1, wind past the Goodyear Courts (large captive passenger traffic) and maybe end up in Taipan-2 or staddle the gas-pipeline near USJ17.They can build the LRT line over the Jalan Marof flyover in Bangsar, and they can build the Subang Kelana highway over the NPE and the other flyover.

There are two routes from Kelana Jaya. The route through Glenmarie or the route west of Jalan Subang (near the electric corridor).

If they use the route through Glenmarie, and follow Jalan Tujuan, then they can follow the NPE to Sunway Pyramid, skirt around PJS7, then follow KESAS to Summit, then Kewajipan/Jalan USJ1/1 to Goodyear Court.

This LRT would have to be 95-100% elevated which will cost more money, but they will meet all the major trip generators except for Subang Parade and SJMC. The link to Subang Jaya KTM would be 1km walk though, at Jalan Tujuan. Maybe they can move the KTM station further west?

If they use the route west of Jalan Subang, then they can follow Jalan Jengka to KESAS, KESAS to Summit, Kewajipan/Jalan USJ1/1 to Goodyear Court. This route would have to be elevated between 50%-75%. This would allow them to save money. However, they miss major trip generators in SJMC and Sunway Pyramid (and Sunway and Taylors Colleges). But, the train would have less turns to make so service would be faster.

I dont think it is possible to use a Jalan Jangka/NPE/Sunway route unless they plan to build a monorail (which would be capable of tighter turns).

Cheers, m

AllUrban
31-08-2006, 04:47 PM
If I were you, I wouldn't eye that property. Do you know under the National Land Code 1967 Section 4 and Section 8 empowers the government to forcifully 'confiscate' your land for development purpose. The only thing you can bitch about is the compensation. Don't dream of even an equitable compensation. Good point PC :D Yes, very true, but then, I guess compensation depends on who you are as a developer :( Look at Gerbang Perdana and their "compensation" for the "scenic" bridge project.

Anyways, SJ and USJ people have to get involved in the planning for this extension.

Cheers, m

AllUrban
05-09-2006, 03:25 PM
Unfortunately, it cannot be said whether the LRT will be a success until the route plans and the number of stations are revealed...and this is why SJ and USJ have to lobby for great LRT....not just ok or good.

There are so many things to consider about the LRT USJ and SJ want...such as:

*Is the LRT only meant to get people to/from the city centre of KL?

*Is the LRT meant to get people around Subang/USJ or to Kelana Jaya?

*Is the LRT going to have many stations e.g. 5 stations, 2 each in SJ and USJ, 1 in Glenmarie, 1 in Bandar Sunway (resulting in a slower trip), or fewer stations e.g. 3 stations, 1 station in each town (resulting in a faster trip)?

*Is the LRT going to be built as an extension of the existing line...or as the first phase of a new line (e.g. a line from Puchong to Damansara via USJ/SJ)?

*Will the LRT route follow major roads (e.g. no further than 100m away from Pers. Kewajipan), or will it follow the TNB corridor (where fewer people live)?

*Will passengers be expected to come by foot, car, or bus?

*Will the LRT be worth the cost, and will it be successful, or will another bailout be needed in a few years?

*How will the LRT affect/encourage development in USJ and SJ? Will there be more service apartments and condominiums and taller buildings, or more mid-rise buildings like the Goodyear Courts?

Cheers, m

patrick
05-09-2006, 10:30 PM
Unfortunately, it cannot be said whether the LRT will be a success until the route plans and the number of stations are revealed...and this is why SJ and USJ have to lobby for great LRT....not just ok or good.

There are so many things to consider about the LRT USJ and SJ want...such as:
......................
*How will the LRT affect/encourage development in USJ and SJ? Will there be more service apartments and condominiums and taller buildings, or more mid-rise buildings like the Goodyear Courts?

Cheers, m

They already confirmed it will be an extension from Kelana Jaya.
More apartments etc etc? I think it will be a bit difficult. SJ and USJ is almost a fully developed township.

drewkool
06-09-2006, 02:58 PM
The availability of parking space is my next most concerns. The developers must be expecting ppl driving into the car park & take the trains. Double storey car park building? 4-storey? Spacious area for car park (No way SJ-USJ have no more space). 4 storey car park sounds good to me. And why i'm focusing so much on car park? Because the unknown quality of shuttle bus services, don't tell me how good it is going to be implemented where the country has been trying to upgrade the services for so many years yet it still lack behind - below par services.

patrick
08-09-2006, 04:37 PM
The availability of parking space is my next most concerns. The developers must be expecting ppl driving into the car park & take the trains. Double storey car park building? 4-storey? Spacious area for car park (No way SJ-USJ have no more space). 4 storey car park sounds good to me. And why i'm focusing so much on car park? Because the unknown quality of shuttle bus services, don't tell me how good it is going to be implemented where the country has been trying to upgrade the services for so many years yet it still lack behind - below par services.

I share the same concern as drewkool. Car parking. And also the unknown quality of shuttle bus. So far non seem to live up to expectation. Will they in future?

Raikonen
09-09-2006, 11:38 AM
I hope that the relevant ministries such as Transport should look into putting a proper bus feeder and transit system in USJ to complement the LRT. No point u have a LRT into USJ but the other components of public transport sucks....Moved to KL/USJ in 1994 and more than 10 years later the bus system is still the same or worse...Dont the Transport ministry have a vision/mission or BP for the short or long term? Vision 2020 what does that mean for transportation? At least try to get the basics like propers bus stops, and not some trees stops and detailed schedule which is displayed at at stops and adhered to. I stayed in Perth for 2 years and man..the transport system there rocks!!

AllUrban
24-09-2006, 04:20 PM
This column including an interview with the director of SPNB (Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd.) describes some of the challenges that the company (and RapidKL) are facing in planning the routes for the new LRT expansion and extensions.

Putting the best route forward (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/9/24/focus/15517780&sec=focus)

Some of the information is very interesting, and good for Subang Jaya and USJ residents to be aware of in lobbying for the LRT routes.

I note that they had a meeting in Cheras to discuss plans for the LRT route there. I firmly hope that a meeting in USJ and Subang Jaya is coming soon.

Cheers, m

AllUrban
12-10-2006, 01:46 PM
little bird tells me that SPNB is going to ink a deal to buy 22 new trains soon, for use on the Kelana Jaya line.

There is a further option for another 13 trains.

And get this...the deal is for 4 car trains...4 car trains on the Kelana Jaya line...hooray! :D

cheers, m

patrick
12-10-2006, 11:45 PM
little bird tells me that SPNB is going to ink a deal to buy 22 new trains soon, for use on the Kelana Jaya line.

There is a further option for another 13 trains.

And get this...the deal is for 4 car trains...4 car trains on the Kelana Jaya line...hooray! :D

cheers, m

Thanks. Do keep us posted especially if you hear about when they would start work or if the route to SJ/USJ has been finalised.

AllUrban
14-10-2006, 02:42 PM
I collected the following images of another site, or you can visit the Bombardier website directly.

It is interesting to see that this is a 4-car train, not two Kelana Jaya line trains coupled together.

http://www.bombardier.com/en/1_0/ml/5615/2_KLext-LR.jpg

The exterior. (heh, I think they photoshopped the second car and just pasted it two times, look closely)

http://www.bombardier.com/en/1_0/ml/5616/2_KLint-LR.jpg

Cheers, m

sinleong
15-10-2006, 11:52 PM
Ive been watching this plot of land for sale on the other side of Jalan SS16/1 (at the foot of Jalan Jengka) since I got here.

If you want to make a horrible amount of money...buy it now, because that is the place where an LRT line that connects Kelana Jaya to Subang Jaya (and somehow runs along Jalan Jengka) is going to have to go.

Google earth photos show a very direct north-south route between Lembah Subang (where the Kelana Jaya line ends) and Subang Jaya KTM station. The route runs right through empty land in Glenmarie and connects directly to Jalan Jengka.

Another option would be to have the line running through Glenmarie along the road that connects to Jalan Tujuan, or through the hydro corridor that runs from Kelana Jaya to Subang, or following the Subang Kelana highway route.

I think that all of those would likely not work...too far away from Subang Jaya KTM, with turns that are too tight etc.

So, buy the land now (or get MPSJ to protect it).

Cheers, m

dont dream.
the govt can take away your land and offer whatever compensation deems fit in the name of development.

chookyan
16-10-2006, 12:21 PM
I collected the following images of another site, or you can visit the Bombardier website directly.

It is interesting to see that this is a 4-car train, not two Kelana Jaya line trains coupled together.

http://www.bombardier.com/en/1_0/ml/5615/2_KLext-LR.jpg

The exterior. (heh, I think they photoshopped the second car and just pasted it two times, look closely)

http://www.bombardier.com/en/1_0/ml/5616/2_KLint-LR.jpg

Cheers, m

Check out the website, see under Press Releases and you will see who the local partner is and it's share of the order...

pucman
16-10-2006, 02:36 PM
dont dream.
the govt can take away your land and offer whatever compensation deems fit in the name of development.

Even for freehold land ? :mad:

Teeque
17-10-2006, 03:45 AM
Bombardier Consortium Awarded Contract For Advanced Rapid Transit Cars In Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Montréal, October 13, 2006

Bombardier Transportation and its local partner Hartasuma Sdn Bhd have signed a contract with Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB) for an initial 88 advanced rapid transit (ART) MK II cars to be used on the Kelana Jaya Line in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. The contract is valued at approximately $210 million US (167 million euros) with Bombardier’s share valued at approximately $147 million US (117 million euros). The agreement includes options for 52 additional cars. Should all options be exercised, the entire contract would total 140 cars and be valued at approximately $320 million US (255 million euros).

The fully automated, driverless Kelana Jaya Line began operation in 1998 and was built by a Bombardier-led consortium that included Bombardier and SNC Lavalin. Today, the line links western and eastern suburbs to Kuala Lumpur’s downtown. At 29 km, the Kelana Jaya Line is the longest fully automated, driverless transit system in Asia. The line currently uses 70 Bombardier-built ART MK II vehicles. SPNB’s order for new vehicles will expand the line’s passenger carrying capability. The line is currently operating at maximum capacity.

“Our mission is to provide a highly integrated and efficient public transport infrastructure that will bring positive economic contribution through enhanced public mobility and will improve the overall quality of life for the citizens of Kuala Lumpur,” said Encik Shaipudin Shah Harun, Executive Director and Chief Executive Officer of SPNB. “That is why we once again rely on Bombardier technology to improve the service on the Kelana Jaya Line.”

The cars will be manufactured at Bombardier Transportation production facilities in North America with final assembly in Malaysia through the local partner, which is a major player in the Malaysian rail industry. Delivery of the cars is expected to take place between September 2008 and June 2010.

Bombardier is the world leader in designing and supplying automated rapid transit systems, monorails and people movers for urban and airport applications. The expansion to the existing 29-km Kelana Jaya line will use Bombardier’s Linear-Induction-Motor (LIM) propulsion, successfully deployed on the Vancouver SkyTrain*, the longest driverless system in the world; New York City’s 13-km AirTrain* JFK, where Bombardier is providing up to 15 years of operations and maintenance services; as well as the Scarborough RT system (Toronto, Canada) and the Detroit Downtown People Mover, USA. Bombardier is also managing other ART projects in Asia; one recently announced for the Beijing Airport Link in China and one already under construction for Yongin City in South Korea. With over 70 years of combined system operation, ART technology offers unprecedented reliability.

“We are very proud of the cars and system already delivered to Kuala Lumpur,” said William Spurr, President, Bombardier Transportation, North America. “This order allows us to build on a long-standing relationship with our customer SPNB. It confirms once again the success of Bombardier’s LIM technology, developed in Ontario, Canada, for applications around the world.”

“Hartasuma is proud to be associated with a world leader like Bombardier. This partnership will enhance the local rail industry,” said Datuk Ravindran Menon, Group Executive Director, Hartasuma Sdn Bhd .

Bombardier Transportation has its global headquarters in Berlin, Germany, with a presence in over 60 countries. It has an installed base of approximately 97,000 vehicles worldwide. The company offers the broadest product portfolio and is recognized as the leader in the global rail sector.

*Bombardier SkyTrain and AirTrain are trademarks of Bombardier Inc. or its subsidiaries

About Bombardier
A world-leading manufacturer of innovative transportation solutions, from regional aircraft and business jets to rail transportation equipment, Bombardier Inc. is a global corporation headquartered in Canada. Its revenues for the fiscal year ended Jan. 31, 2006 were $14.7 billion US and its shares are traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange (BBD). News and information are available at www.bombardier.com.

Photos are available in our Multimedia Library at: www.transportation.bombardier.com/photography.jsp

We all know abt Bombardier. So, who's Hartasuma, a major player in Malaysia's rail industry? OK, we know they got 30% of the job and its probably for outfitting the trains. It would be better if they JV for joint manufacturing of the trains and which can facilitate transfer of technology in the process later.

fletch8
19-10-2006, 02:46 PM
Just wondering if it would make more sence to join up the LRT into a loop from Kelana Jaya, through USJ and meet up with the new extension to Puchong? this would make a user friendly rail loop, any comments?? :)

pucman
19-10-2006, 10:28 PM
It seems that Lee Hwa Beng is going ahead to implement the Bombardier technology :( . instead of extending the Sri Petaling line to Subang Jaya.

http://hwabeng.org.my/index.php/publish/page/view/55/1338


I have proposed to SPNB and MOT that the Kelana Jaya line extends to SJ/USJ rather than the Bukit Jalil line. The Kelana Jaya line passes through PJ, Bangsar and towards KL whereas the Bukit Jalil takes a longer distance to go to KL. The next phase would extend the SJ/USJ towards Putrajaya and passes Puchong.

pucman
27-10-2006, 05:09 PM
There is an accident at the last stop at STAR sentul station. The driver must have been drunk to overshoot the last rail.

All passengers have gone off the last stop. No casualties ...

pucman
28-10-2006, 01:08 PM
It seems that most of the serious accidents are from the Kelana jaya line which will be extended to Subang Jaya. :eek:

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/10/28/nation/15849450&sec=nation&focus=1


A computer glitch on July 24 caused trains on the Kelana Jaya Line, formerly Putra-LRT, to stall.

About a month later, services were disrupted due to flooding at the unused Seri Rampai station on the Kelana Jaya Line.

On Oct 6, services between Masjid Jamek and Terminal Putra, also on the Kelana Jaya line, were disrupted for 10 hours when a train stalled near Damai station.