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jakpo
14-05-2005, 07:31 PM
This morning abt 8:15am, my wife kena snatch her handbag as she was entering her car to go to work. The car was in front of the house (outside). 2 men on a motorbike came, one of them came down from the bike and approach her, took her handbag, push her, she fell down. He gave the handbag to the other guy on the bike, and he came back to my wife with a 10" knife and tried to get her bangles and necklace. In the struggle, my wife suffered an inch cut on her right palm. I requires 3 stich. Cilaka punya thieves. Oh... I forgot to mention... my wife is 6 months pregnant.

I was in the house at that time, just entered the house after waving goodbye to her. I heard my wife screams and immediately got out of the house, but couldn't do anything much except frightening the thieves... they ran away on the motorbike.

My neighbour called the police, but after waiting about 1/2 hour, the police did not come. So, we drove to SJMC to have her checked. Thank GOD the baby and my wife are safe.

It was a very terrifying experience for us. If anybody found a brown handbag lying around somewhere, please help to see whether it belongs to my wife. Hand it over to the police.

May the thieves GO TO HELL .............


-jakpo

Alexius Lim
14-05-2005, 08:21 PM
This morning abt 8:15am, my wife kena snatch her handbag as she was entering her car to go to work. .............-jakpo

Hope that your wife is feeling ok... Do keep an eye on her for Post Traumatic Stress... :(

Seems to me the buggers on the bikes are at it again... used to target USJ 9, 11 and 13... now in USJ 3. Same M.O. = women going to/coming from work in the mornings/evenings... or moms coming home with the kids after school/lunch...

Can you provide the descriptions of these perfs and their motorbike... me wanna keep an EYE out for them, hopefully the same buggers that hit my wife and her friend... Got a score to settle.... :mad:

lonewolf8
14-05-2005, 08:48 PM
Can you provide the descriptions of these perfs and their motorbike... me wanna keep an EYE out for them, hopefully the same buggers that hit my wife and her friend... Got a score to settle.... :mad:

Hopefully somebody can throw some light of the snatch thief description. KNN these bastard snatch thief only knows how to pick on weak victims. If got guts go and rob some banks. :mad:

Vixey
14-05-2005, 09:03 PM
[QUOTE=jakpo]This morning abt 8:15am, my wife kena snatch her handbag as she was entering her car to go to work. The car was in front of the house (outside). 2 men on a motorbike came, one of them came down from the bike and approach her, took her handbag, push her, she fell down. He gave the handbag to the other guy on the bike, and he came back to my wife with a 10" knife and tried to get her bangles and necklace. In the struggle, my wife suffered an inch cut on her right palm. I requires 3 stich. Cilaka punya thieves. Oh... I forgot to mention... my wife is 6 months pregnant.

Really hope your wife is okay. Speaking from experience, you feel shocked for awhile. Its only later that it will come back to you. In the middle of the night etc..I kena twice.

First time, in front of Sunway Pyramid, after my birthday celebration. Luckily my friends managed to grab hold of me because when they snatched my bag, they swung me round and I almost landed in the path of a Pajero.

Second time in Klang, two B*****DS on a motorbike, pressed a knife into my back and kicked me into a drain. It was a narrow deep drain full of water and murky dirt. The water came up to my nose! Luckily I managed to grab hold of some concrete slabs by the side because my feet could not touch the base of the drain. Shudder to think if I hit my head and fell in. Sure would have drowned.

I hate these devils with all my heart and I hope they land in hell's hell. Pregnant woman also they don't have the heart to spare. May their wives and sisters share the same fate. But then again, they probably wouldn't care.

orchipalar
14-05-2005, 11:12 PM
Err...JackPo:)...sorry to hear the bad news...wishing your wifey speediest recovery...

Could you possibly describe the 2 guys...what race?...age?...color or motorbike?...was it a red cubchai?

Orchi noticed 2 guys on a red motorbike just yesterday around USJ2...about 6:30pm...wondering around the neighbourhood...both Chinese males...one taller the other a bit shorter n chubby....both were wearing jackets with red helmets...

As they were riding pass Orchi...Orchi wanted to ask them what they were doing around the neighbourhood...Orchi raised hand to wave n got their attention...but they instead sped off....

Another 'regular' snatcher is also a Chinese...looks to be passed 45yo Middle age chubby guy always riding alone in a blue old beaten cubchai...one time witness him speeding off after having snatched a neighbour's handbag...as she was coming out of her car...in the late afternoon...

Orchi tried to give chase...but he was quicker on the bike...n heard nowadays they would snatch student's bags as well...

%$@*#*^@^)*%z_Snatch Thieves...Orchi hopes they would be BURNT in HELL...!!! :mad:

jordan
15-05-2005, 12:07 AM
Dear Jackpo

sorry to hear abt what happened

but in order for ppl in Subang to be able to do something (or to avoid), could you pls give some description abt the 2 fellas????

thks

Agnes
15-05-2005, 01:02 AM
jakpo, so sorry to hear that. hope your wife is fine.

but all of you cannot blame the snatch thieves themselves. you yourself have to watch out on your own, be on guard, notice your surroundings and never ever let them have the opportunity to do that to you! :mad:

i have this friend of mine that got robbed quite a few times. why? it's because all the time he was taking shorter routes back home, meaning back alley or some place where there are very little people around..

my brother got robbed too in wangsa maju lrt station even when there were a lot of people there. but he got robbed anyway because of the way he looked. he looks weak and walks with no confidence and always looking at the ground.. -.-

another friend of mine got robbed in parking lo.. why har? ladies/women are easy targets mah.. some more go and show people you are a female by putting so many darn soft toys/cute stuffs, magazines & shoes in the car. normally these thieves will look out on all these for potential victims. :mad:

these are just some few examples. sometimes things like this just happen but you can take the necessary precaution to lower your risk of being the victim! :cool:

YOU ARE WARNED! are you going to take the precaution?

just my 2 cents..

cheers~ ;)

Alexius Lim
15-05-2005, 02:10 AM
Another 'regular' snatcher is also a Chinese...looks to be passed 45yo Middle age chubby guy always riding alone in a blue old beaten cubchai...one time witness him speeding off after having snatched a neighbour's handbag...as she was coming out of her car...in the late afternoon...


Spoke to my wife and she kinda agrees with this description @ 5'5" very tanned, chubby or stocky and the beat-up cubchai! Just be careful oso coz he had a chopper in the bike basket then...!! was told from witnesses that this fella sorta hangs out in between the lorongs of the terrace houses and will pop out when opportunity arises... never at the end of the main roads... :mad: now I drive thru these lorongs hoping to BUMP into this fella...

jessi24
15-05-2005, 04:48 AM
Some simple tips for women looking at the rate of unscrupulous people around nowadays.
1) Before getting out of the hse or out from car, always look around. Make sure there is no one hanging around at the beginning of the street or end of it. Get ready the house/car keys to open the door, get in and quickly lock it.
2) Always carry cash in the pockets, not in the h/bag.
3) If possible wear a pouch, do not carry a h/bag.
4) Always wear footwear which is easy to run in. Flimsy footwear is a no no unless you have someone dropping you off right infront of the building of anyplace you are going to and someone picking you up directly.

It's really so sad and sickening when these people are even going after pregnant women. :mad:

chsum
15-05-2005, 10:11 AM
Jakpo, sorry about ur wife, I hope she will recover fully.

Pls try to give a discription to these down to earth @%%$# worms as it will give us some guidelines to look out for and believe me, all of us would like to see them lock up and the keys thrown away.

Alexius, if u see a person with the same discription, what would u do? I hope not what I think ur going to do, it might be a guy waiting for a secret meeting with his lover, then ur in trouble. :eek:

Good suggestion Jess, may I add
1) Use auto gate and park ur wife car inside the house, make sure she is safely in the car and lock the doors b4 u open the gate and when u come home, make sure u lock the gate b4 u get down.

2) Try not to walk alone.

3) Always on the lookout for someone on a bike at a corner staring at u or when u hear a loud rev of a bike, run to safety.

Do u think it's a good idea to report ur neighbour to the police who do not work but always but new car and renovate house like the snatch thieve in SA. :D

My 2 sens

jakpo
15-05-2005, 10:30 AM
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the wishes. My wife is okay... but this morning, she started to feel pain on her body here and there. Probably because of the fall. She's resting upstairs now.
One of the b*st*rds was probably about 5'4" tall, the other one slightly taller... looks like indonesian/malay... they didn't speak a word, so, couldn't confirm. Motorbike was a cubchai, plate number BHD XX06 (first 2 numbers couldn't see).

Ok guys, wife called me upstairs. Gotta go.

-jakpo

orchipalar
15-05-2005, 01:01 PM
Err...Alexius:)...looking like we got MORE_ ^$@D&#*^#(&$$_o++K...freaking snatch thieves on our hands... :mad:

"after having saved billions in fuel subsidy...reportedly emphasized repeatedly by our nation's TOP leaders...which is to be channeled for other more useful projects"...where is the long awaited announcement that MORE Police stations...n Police personnel would be inplaced for regular patrols of as one of the many crime prevention measures?...especially with the one in our very own neighbourhood...for a lousy n petty sum 6 millions ringgit?...in the freaking 9th malaysiaSureBoleh Plan...?!

Ahem...such a crucial thang would take them years to plan n execute(not easy they would say)...whereas they might now place more importance to spend the rakyat's resources...in sending an evolved chimpanzee into space soon...or spending billions more for whatchamacallit...bio tech research industries?...or could it be the making our very own FIRST submersible boat?...probably in the so called 9th malaysiaSureBoleh plan...

Err...it has always been the case isn't it...for some leaders to 'accomplish' something so called 'very significant' to the country before the 'go away'...that the future rakyat generations would remember them by...bapa this or bapa that...or something like that...whilst neglecting the importance of upgrading n improving on national security measure...educations system...health cares...employment rate....n public transportations...n so forth... :rolleyes:

Wawasan 2020?...could have been a dream...but it has since been looking like an impossible dream... :rolleyes:

macgyver_usj
16-05-2005, 07:55 AM
May I know what is the implications if I saw the snatch thieves in action and decided to ram my car into them? After they fall, I use a stick to wallop their hands and legs to prevent them from escaping. In the process, I might have broke their hands and legs.

What will happen to me? Will I go to jail?

LMei
16-05-2005, 11:20 AM
Some simple tips for women looking at the rate of unscrupulous people around nowadays.
1) Before getting out of the hse or out from car, always look around. Make sure there is no one hanging around at the beginning of the street or end of it. Get ready the house/car keys to open the door, get in and quickly lock it.
2) Always carry cash in the pockets, not in the h/bag.
3) If possible wear a pouch, do not carry a h/bag.
4) Always wear footwear which is easy to run in. Flimsy footwear is a no no unless you have someone dropping you off right infront of the building of anyplace you are going to and someone picking you up directly.

It's really so sad and sickening when these people are even going after pregnant women. :mad:
1) Good advice
2) Problem with most women clothes... no pockets! That's why we carry h/bag. Unlike the men... they always hv pockets so they can carry their wallet around easily. Unless we women resort to wearing pants all the time :p
3) Not being vain or anything... but pouch not suitable with office wear.
4) Again may not be suitable with office wear... so may resort to running without shoes instead of heels :o

tupai
16-05-2005, 12:13 PM
Can you provide the descriptions of these perfs and their motorbike... me wanna keep an EYE out for them, hopefully the same buggers that hit my wife and her friend... Got a score to settle.... :mad:

The thief on a cubchai, AFTER snatching your bag, will do the following
- speed away to the nearest deserted area AND change his shirt or REVERSE his dual-colour jacket.

If you can remmebr the colour of his bike and still have the presence of mind (?), the next thing BUT IMPORTANT thing, to look out for is the COLOUR of his HELMET. Also Watch out for any markings, stickers on it.

he can change his cubchai number plate, his clothes BUT not his helmet.

helmeted tupai

newinUSJ
16-05-2005, 12:45 PM
TIPS FROM USA POLICE
This is a good reminder for all of us. You can never Read this too many times!
1. Tip from police: The elbow is the strongest point on your body.If you are close enough to use it, do!
2. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in yourWallet and/or purse than you and he will go for the wallet orpurse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!
3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car: Kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out thehole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you but everybody else will. This has saved lives.
4. Women have a tendency to get into their car after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doingtheir check book, or making a list, etc.) DON'T DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this isthe perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you whereto go.
AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.
5. A Few Notes About Getting Into Your Car In a Parking Lot, or Parking Garage:
A.Be aware: look around you; look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.
(And check out under the car as you approach.)
B. If you're parked next to a big van you should enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.
C. Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get aguard/policeman to walk you back out.IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY.(And better paranoid than dead.)
6.ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and theperfect crime spot).
7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control,ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hityou (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ,RUN!
8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP IT!It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, welleducated man, whoALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women? He walked with a cane, or a limp, and oftenasked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.
Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she calledthe police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOTopen the door." The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over.The policeman said, "We already have a unit onthe way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a serial killer has a babycry recorder and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. Hesaid they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they heard baby cries outsidetheir doors ! when they're home alone at night. Please pass this on! and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby.
This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory was mentioned on:America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.
Please forward this to all the women you know. It may save a life. A candle is not dimmed by lightinganother candle.
I was going to forward this to theladies only, but guys, if you love your mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, etc., you may want to pass it on to them, as well.


just wanted to share, coz it applies not for US only
and be aware, hanging gold on yourself, lookin like christmas tree, doesn't make you safer ....

headache
16-05-2005, 01:14 PM
Sorry to the victims.

I remember seeing a letter to the Editor (star, nst?), a couple of days ago. The writer mentions that the probability of getting your handbag snatched is higher than been bitten by a dog. So, what do we do? Ban motobikes and bikers? Ban helmets?

jakpo
16-05-2005, 01:31 PM
Hi all,

Some updates:
At the balai polis when we made the police report, we were told by the police to go to a government hospital and do a checkup there; in case the case goes to court, the court only recognise medical report from a government hospital, eventhough we already went for a thorough checkup at SJMC.

So this morning we went to the putrajaya hospital. Once we met the doctor, she was *amazed* and confused why we were there. We told them that the police asked us to go there. Immediately, she called her boss, and later she called the mahkamah office and CONFIRMED that we actually does NOT need to do another medical checkup at the government hospital. A checkup at any hospital will do.

She (the doctor) was very pissed off with the procedure. We told the doctor, we are even more pissed off... having to go there, and at the end, it's not neccessary.

So, no checkup at the putrajaya hospital, we left. Wasted about 2 hours of our time; wasted 1/2 day of my annual leave.

Now, we're going to PNB (Jalan Tun Razak) because wife's ASB passbook was in the handbag. Need to apply a new one.

Oh ya... apply for MyCard just now, kena charge RM40/=.

Ok lah... going now... you all take care.

-jakpo

newinUSJ
16-05-2005, 01:35 PM
Hi all,

Some updates:
At the balai polis when we made the police report, we were told by the police to go to a government hospital and do a checkup there; in case the case goes to court, the court only recognise medical report from a government hospital, eventhough we already went for a thorough checkup at SJMC.

So this morning we went to the putrajaya hospital. Once we met the doctor, she was *amazed* and confused why we were there. We told them that the police asked us to go there. Immediately, she called her boss, and later she called the mahkamah office and CONFIRMED that we actually does NOT need to do another medical checkup at the government hospital. A checkup at any hospital will do.

She (the doctor) was very pissed off with the procedure. We told the doctor, we are even more pissed off... having to go there, and at the end, it's not neccessary.
So, no checkup at the putrajaya hospital, we left. Wasted about 2 hours of our time; wasted 1/2 day of my annual leave.

Now, we're going to PNB (Jalan Tun Razak) because wife's ASB passbook was in the handbag. Need to apply a new one.

Oh ya... apply for MyCard just now, kena charge RM40/=.

Ok lah... going now... you all take care.

-jakpo

when will all parties involved know their procedures for different cases ???
really cannot wait 2020 - malaysia boleh then ? munkinlah :mad:

orchipalar
16-05-2005, 03:32 PM
when will all parties involved know their procedures for different cases ???
really cannot wait 2020 - malaysia boleh then ? munkinlah :mad:

Err...for those that could survive till malaysia achieves the true status of being a develop nation(ahem...not self proclaim one Ok?) by 2020?...kindly remind Orchi to hang himself first...OK-O? :rolleyes:

gtl
16-05-2005, 04:06 PM
this is the problem when the govt dept does not work together. they have all the data base or systems (hardware) but does not have software (brain) to use them.

tupai
16-05-2005, 07:23 PM
Sorry to the victims.

I remember seeing a letter to the Editor (star, nst?), a couple of days ago. The writer mentions that the probability of getting your handbag snatched is higher than been bitten by a dog. So, what do we do? Ban motobikes and bikers? Ban helmets?

Oi!!! I ride bikes and wear helmet! U wanna try taking them from me????
:mad:
To prevent bags from being snatc hed, try moving out and live in a cave? or in layang-layang island :mad:

tupai-hopping-mad :mad:

expat1609
16-05-2005, 07:35 PM
this is the problem when the govt dept does not work together. they have all the data base or systems (hardware) but does not have software (brain) to use them.

myself as a foreigner seeing lots of things in malaysia that i could only dream of in my "developed" middle-european home country.

*touch and go on all highways and in many car-parks
*My-kad: ID in credit card format, with driving licence and and and on it
(You guys see my driving-licence you will roll away from laughing; when i open it the format is bigger then any passport in this world.
there is nothing in credit card format back there, except credit cards :D )
*Scanner on the ATM for easy payment of utility bills
and much much more.

the question i am asking myself is: what goes wrong in cases mentioned above about the hospital and police.
are there wrong priorities in developing the country, or are there only certain parties working hard towards wawasan 2020 while others just continue as usual ???

wsp
16-05-2005, 08:56 PM
Oh ya... apply for MyCard just now, kena charge RM40/=.

Ok lah... going now... you all take care.

-jakpo

my fren got snatched twice and lost her IC twice too... she got to pay RM80 when she applied for IC for 2nd times although she shown the officer her police report.... hahaha... over here, we lost everything after being snatched, then other parties made money... JPN and the snatch thieves!!!

rachel_fplee
17-05-2005, 10:45 AM
my fren got snatched twice and lost her IC twice too... she got to pay RM80 when she applied for IC for 2nd times although she shown the officer her police report.... hahaha... over here, we lost everything after being snatched, then other parties made money... JPN and the snatch thieves!!!

Tell me about it...when my bag was snatched in front of Concorde Hotel KL last year, I went to replace my IC the next day. Not only I have to pay for the new IC but also have to bear inconsiderate & crude remarks from the officer, "U orang tak jaga IC baik-baik. Kalau hilang sekali lagi, JPN akan ban & tak issue lagi...!!!" :mad:

gtl
17-05-2005, 11:25 AM
the question i am asking myself is: what goes wrong in cases mentioned above about the hospital and police.
are there wrong priorities in developing the country, or are there only certain parties working hard towards wawasan 2020 while others just continue as usual ???

agree with you expat, malaysia have come a long way and hope pak lah can hold it together and guide all the lost lamb towards ONE VISION.

Vixey
17-05-2005, 09:12 PM
Just thought I let you guys know, that my mom has been seeing a middle-aged Chinese man on an old kap-chai, blueish color riding about in the morning and evening. He sits very straight on the bike and my mum has been noticing that he doesn't appear to be going to anybody's house. Not sure if he fits the description. This is in USJ 23 area.

headache
17-05-2005, 09:19 PM
Oi!!! I ride bikes and wear helmet! U wanna try taking them from me????
:mad:
To prevent bags from being snatc hed, try moving out and live in a cave? or in layang-layang island :mad:

tupai-hopping-mad :mad:

Ex-biker reporting in.
My ancestors lived in a cave.
Was in Layang2 a couple of years ago.
Anymore wise cracks?

Alexius Lim
17-05-2005, 11:22 PM
.....

Alexius, if u see a person with the same discription, what would u do? I hope not what I think ur going to do, it might be a guy waiting for a secret meeting with his lover, then ur in trouble. :eek: ......(edit)

Do u think it's a good idea to report ur neighbour to the police who do not work but always but new car and renovate house like the snatch thieve in SA. :D

My 2 sens

As to your 1st question... I will not JUMP the fella JUST YET.... what I would do is to stake "him" out and watch.... and if he makes the wrong move... I am gonna 'just' show him how does the undercarriage of a car looks like... SIMPLE!... well, he could have avoided my car... but....

Basically - I am a nice guy... but sometimes, when you get fed up with scum - you just need 2 teach them how it feels to suffer... I have taken down one snatch thief and made him eat asphalt before, and will not hesistate to do it again!!! :mad: :D Believe me when I say it was satisfying.. :D

Your other question.... haha! that fella could be a politician or related to one!!

orchipalar
17-05-2005, 11:37 PM
Just thought I let you guys know, that my mom has been seeing a middle-aged Chinese man on an old kap-chai, blueish color riding about in the morning and evening. He sits very straight on the bike and my mum has been noticing that he doesn't appear to be going to anybody's house. Not sure if he fits the description. This is in USJ 23 area.

Err...dear Vixey:)...thanks for the tip...that's the man Orchi been eyeing for the last few months in around USJ 2...hasn't seen him anymore since...he is it... :mad:

Arrrhhh...now he is prawling around USJ 23...eh?...last Orchi saw him...he was wearing a blueish jacket...red helmet...he has a quite a tanned complexion...looks like the type who has been working under the sun alot...could be a construction worker or something like that...

Err...Alexius:)...could he be the same *#%$&@%()_o++K...snatcher that attacked your wife...?

Alexius Lim
17-05-2005, 11:47 PM
Err...dear Vixey:)...thanks for the tip...that's the man Orchi been eyeing for the last few months in around USJ 2...hasn't seen him anymore since...he is it... :mad:

Arrrhhh...now he is prawling around USJ 23...eh?...last Orchi saw him...he was wearing a blueish jacket...red helmet...he has a quite a tanned complexion...looks like the type who has been working under the sun alot...could be a construction worker or something like that...

Err...Alexius:)...could he be the same *#%$&@%()_o++K...snatcher that attacked your wife...?

Thanks for the tip too... Sure sounds like the scumbag....I am in the vicinity... will be watching out for this fella in this area... thanks....

Vixey... ask your mom to note down the number plates! the number plates!.. very important lorr....

Vixey
18-05-2005, 02:03 AM
Thanks for the tip too... Sure sounds like the scumbag....I am in the vicinity... will be watching out for this fella in this area... thanks....

Vixey... ask your mom to note down the number plates! the number plates!.. very important lorr....

Yup mum did say he look like a construction worker. Err..guys, my mum's eyesight for numbers..not very good. But I have now made it a point to be doing my outside chores around those times. So if I see him again, I will take note.

Hey Alex...thanks for making one of those vermin eat asphalt. Trust me, its no fun having something sharp poked at the base of your spine, kicked viciously and pushed into a water-logged drain. While the vermin has a close up view of the gravel, I would love to introduce my stiletto heels to his ... um....so-called "manhood".