Sleep disturbed on Sunday morning in USJ2

[InitialD]

I wanna complain about some event being held in front of Summit USJ complex today ( 27th March 2005 ). The stupid DJ started to blast music and talked loudly over the PA system early in the morning. The event is called "And 1".. it's some outdoor 3 on 3 basket ball thingy.

I am pretty sure those living opposite of Summit USJ at USJ 2 knows what I mean.

[CK One]

How early is early? If you have jumped out of bed and posted this complaint and by judging at the time-stamp, it was past 9.30 am. That is not early. That is late - even on a Sunday. This is not a daily or every Sunday event. We should all practice more tolerance in such trivial matters. I think people could and should get worked up about important issues such as the controversy surrounding foodcourt etc, not when a sleep is disturbed at 9.30 am on one Sunday out of all the Sundays in a year.

[CK One]

InitialD. My apologies to you. My post was not meant to sound to castigate you at all. After re-reading it, it did sound that way and for that, I do apologise. What I am trying to say is that in general, all of us have to learn to be more tolerant, especially over matters which are not life-and-death. I believe that the general lack of tolerance in our fast-paced society have led to violent quarrels, assaults, road rages and even taking the law into our own hands.

I read a paragraph from Dale Carnegie:

Let's never try to get even with our enemies, because if we do we will hurt ourselves far more than we hurt them. Let's do as General Eisenhower does: Let's never waste a minute thinking about people we don't like.

:)

[Pets=Friends]

I was passing the area at 8.30 and there's already a big crowd of students. So i'm guessing the party started before 8 am, so is that early for you on a Sunday morning. I'm agreeable to that event but the DJ blasting the speaker is kinda unnecessary.

[RolyPoly]

My neighbour also complaint to us about the blasting noise by the DJ from Summit and she said it started as early as before 7 am.

I couldn't hear anything coz as usual I sleep like a baby! Or a dead log......hee hee hee......

[orchipalar]

What I am trying to say is that in general, all of us have to learn to be more tolerant, especially over matters which are not life-and-death. I believe that the general lack of tolerance in our fast-paced society have led to violent quarrels, assaults, road rages and even taking the law into our own hands.

Err...CKOne:)...has a valid pointer here...in this case it was not one of those regular nuisance giving rise to constant problems...it was just a sporting event...happening probably once is a blue moon...thus there wasn't any need to expand any veins over the matter...what a lovely evening it turned out to be after the heavey shower of rain :)

[CK One]

I was passing the area at 8.30 and there's already a big crowd of students. So i'm guessing the party started before 8 am, so is that early for you on a Sunday morning. I'm agreeable to that event but the DJ blasting the speaker is kinda unnecessary.

Time is relative. 8 am is late for me but maybe early for you. The point I have been stressing, I have already made in my second post. You also said there was a big crowd of students there. Yet the DJ blasting the speaker is not necessary. So what do you expect the DJ to do? Whisper?

Thank you, Orchipalar, for seeing the point on more tolerance non life-and-death matters and events which are not frequent occurance. We spent too much of our lives getting agitated and complaining about just about everything under the sun that we have forgotten to enjoy life (as you have said, refreshing air after a heavy shower instead of complaining about why it has to rain!). I guess you see stars while others see mud.

:)

[mackzulkifli]

Actually, the event started before 7am, and the DJ was blaring the music so loud, that as I passed on the other side of the road, in a race-tuned and race exhaust fitted car no less and the window wound up (not mine, I was hitching a ride to the car-park rally), I heard them loud and clear.

I see CKone's point and I think it's fair to say that I am usually moderate on many issues, but these guys were loud. One must remember that noise is a form of pollution if unwelcomed.

But patience has its virtues.

On the other hand, event coordinators should have a little more consideration as well, for some people might have has a long night on Saturday and wish to sleep in on Sundays. They are after all at home and have a right to peace and quiet, eh?

[Pets=Friends]

Wow look buddy, everyone's entitled to an opinion, no need to get work up over it. Its a little extreme to even suggest that the DJ whisper, come on man, give some and take some, practice moderation la malaysian style. I lived opposite a school and i don't see them blast the music everytime they have an event, just keep it to a minimum, a few announcement here and there, i'm sure the folks will understand.

[usjarian]

I think it was the Street Challenge activites in front of Summit that you are referring to..

I am afraid that it is these activities that will boost the 'popularity' of USJ Summit and consequently boost up the property prices of the houses/apartments around the area.

I am sure that many would complain if USJ Summit turned out to be a 'dead' mall - i.e., no business, no interesting shops, not much customers, etc..it would just bring down the property price of those especially around USJ1 and USJ2.

A friend of mine who purchased a condominium at Tropics Damansara complained about a similar issue. The ground floor to 2nd floor of the condo complex is actually a mall, and 3rd flow above are condominium units. He was talked into buying the condo for investment because the property owner claimed that the Tropics Shopping Center will boom and many shops will open and it will attract a lot of people to invest into that area. Just last weekend I had the opportunity to visit this friend, and i could see how dead the mall was! Only 10% of the shops are doing business while others are unoccupied. The Nichi Fashion (anchor shop) is having a clearance sale and looked as though they are moving out soon. The food court at Level 1 is dark, no one is doing business and all the lights are off. When i commented about this, my friend, who owns the condo on the 5th floor could just "geleng kepala" and said, it was not worth buying the condo there. The property is just dead.

I am currently considering buying the USJ house that I am currently renting. I am at USJ 6 very near to Taipan area. Despite the terrible traffic at Taipan, it really shows that it is indeed a very lively place - business are great, roads are wide and clean, and once in a while, there are some great activities going on at USJ Summit. Ignore the traffic jam at Jalan Kewajipan, and I think I found a great investment/property package here in USJ! :D

ps: forgot to mention a great e-neigbourhood at USJ.com

[pcyeoh]

Those who buy properties opposite shopping complexes must understand that this noise pollution is inevitable. Likewise, I won't be surprise to read if someone complains about the traffic jam. There is nothing you can do about this even if this is a everyday affair as this is a commercial area. This 7am incident rarely happens. Maybe you can speak to the Summit Mall management to advise those event organisers to control those volumes before 8am and after 10pm or seek clarification from the authorities what are their guidelines on noise pollution for commercial area near residential areas and take appropriate action when this happens again.

And this event is the culprit that woke you up from your slumber.

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From The Star Metro

Monday, March 28, 2005

Bouncing start for 350 teams
By STUART MICHAEL

THE opening leg of the AND1 Streetball Challenge, held at the Summit USJ yesterday, proved to be bigger and better than last year’s event.

One of the three freestylists Dennis Loh Eu-Foong demonstrating how to spin a ball with one finger. The car park in front of the shopping complex was transformed into a sea of blue AND1 jerseys worn by the players as a maximum field of 350 teams turned up. Last year’s opener, also held at the Summit USJ, drew only 280 teams.

Students came from as far as Kajang, Rawang, Selayang, Gombak and Klang for the event.

“I am glad to see that this year’s event has not only attracted the people staying in Subang Jaya but from other parts of the Klang Valley as well,” said Subang Jaya assemblyman Datuk Lee Hwa Beng, who launched the event. “This is a good development as the game has helped to bring people from different areas together.”

This year, Star Metro is the official media while Milo is the official beverage. Ossia World of Golf executive director Saw Swee Leong and Star Metro editor Tan Ju Eng were also present at the event.

A player attempts to jump and shoot the ball as his opponents try to block him. Girls clad in tudung (head scarves) played alongside students from African countries like Gambia, Mali and Ghana. Papi Sylla from Mali and siblings Abu Tairu and Mohd Sylla from Gambia, who are students of the International Islamic University in Gombak, said this year’s event was more fun and better organised.

“This year, the courts look bigger and the event seems more fun especially with the freestylists around,” said Mohd Sylla, 14. “Back home in Gambia, the AND1 Mixed Tape also has a good following. My favourites are Main Event, Skip and Hot Sauce.

“The Main Event can sure jump. I like Hot Sauce because he has so many tricks.”

A group of students from SM Sains Selangor in Rawang, comprising 51 boys and 24 girls, came all the way from the small town in two buses.

“We like streetball and the AND1 Mixed Tape because we can learn so many tricks. It helps us to improve as basketball players,’’ said student Nur Sakinah Mohd Farit, 15.

Three students from SMK Tinggi Kajang - Devamani Ramachandran, Yong Chee Peng and Ong Kai Lun said they enjoyed playing streetball together. “Yong and Ong had their breakfast but I could not eat because I was so nervous,” said Devamani.

Three freestylists – Matthew Yamook from Ghana and locals Dennis Loh Eu-Foong and Mohd Edzham Azwer – were also at the courts to show their moves.

There were also a shooting competition and a coaching clinic conducted by national trainees Cheong Jai Hui, Hong Wei Jian and Ang Tun Kaw.

[Voter]

I for one would like noise level to be controlled at what is allowed by the Laws. I wonder if the DJs suffer any occupational health hearing loss by being exposed to constant high noise level. Hearing pwoer, once lost, is lost forever. I think the normal noise level is 85 DBa for an average of 8 hours a day, and the pitch noise should not exceed something like 120 DBa (can't remember exactly the figure).

Similarly, patrons should not be exposed to excessive or high noise level.

[InitialD]

CK ONE, I believe you shouldn't just shoot me without finding out the facts. Don't base your assumptions on the time of my posting that morning.

I could have posted earlier that that time. I only decided to post it after I cannot tahan anymore. Even if I wasn't sleeping at that time, the noise really really is damn bloody loud.

By the way, the event went on the whole day. It was driving everyone who lived across Summit to go nuts. The only thing that stopped the loud music and annoying DJ is the rain. Thank god for the rain.

CK ONE, I do agree on being tolerant.. but there is a limit to being tolerant.. I am sure u have your limits too.. am I right?

CK ONE, I suspect u could be part of the organizer..hence the way u shot me down.

[PianoMan]

I agree with InitialD. There is always a limit to being tolerant. Whether its life or death is another issue. I live in the USJ 2 area as well. It was very noisy. And more to that, i really pity the residents that live directly opposite summit as there will always be people parking their cars there to avoid paying the parking fee. And it becomes even more a pain when these cars that are parked there are huge luxury cars. Some people can afford so much for a car but cannot afford a few ringgit for a parking space. This is where the key should meet the metal.

Be it a shopping mall or 5 star complex, I wouldnt want to live next to it if it's so disturbing even if it will boost property price, etc etc.

[CK One]

Much to do about Nothing.

:)

[CK One]

Wow look buddy, everyone's entitled to an opinion, no need to get work up over it. Its a little extreme to even suggest that the DJ whisper, come on man, give some and take some, practice moderation la malaysian style. I lived opposite a school and i don't see them blast the music everytime they have an event, just keep it to a minimum, a few announcement here and there, i'm sure the folks will understand.

I agree with you. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, as I am entitled to mine. It was you who started by saying 'So i'm guessing the party started before 8 am, so is that early for you on a Sunday morning', which I took to be a reference to me.

:)

[CK One]

CK ONE, I believe you shouldn't just shoot me without finding out the facts. Don't base your assumptions on the time of my posting that morning.

I could have posted earlier that that time. I only decided to post it after I cannot tahan anymore. Even if I wasn't sleeping at that time, the noise really really is damn bloody loud.

By the way, the event went on the whole day. It was driving everyone who lived across Summit to go nuts. The only thing that stopped the loud music and annoying DJ is the rain. Thank god for the rain.

CK ONE, I do agree on being tolerant.. but there is a limit to being tolerant.. I am sure u have your limits too.. am I right?

CK ONE, I suspect u could be part of the organizer..hence the way u shot me down.

I did, almost immediately, apologised to you in my second post. Did you read that? I apologised without reservation and you were the one who is now 'shooting' at me. Wow. Talking about tolerance.

:)

[Pets=Friends]

I agree with you. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, as I am entitled to mine. It was you who started by saying 'So i'm guessing the party started before 8 am, so is that early for you on a Sunday morning', which I took to be a reference to me.

:)
Hahahaha, it was NOT directed to you, honestly. Talk about seeing the mud in everything....ouch!

[Alexius Lim]

[QUOTE=PianoMan].............. there will always be people parking their cars there to avoid paying the parking fee. And it becomes even more a pain when these cars that are parked there are huge luxury cars. Some people can afford so much for a car but cannot afford a few ringgit for a parking space. This is where the key should meet the metal.....QUOTE]


:p lol! whats new .... I had a bugger (owner-driver!) who parked his Merc and blocked my car from reversing out while he finished his Baskin Robbins icecream INSIDE Baskin Robbins Taipan with his family... while I sat in the car waiting for him to move his car.... and i don't know whether I ended up looking angry or gobsmack! when I realised the fella was in Baskin Robbins... :mad: :confused: ...

(yaya... patience is virtue... how?)

[CK One]

Hahahaha, it was NOT directed to you, honestly. Talk about seeing the mud in everything....ouch!

Have you seen a movie by Clint Eastwood called In the Line of Fire? I quote what he said: "Am I being paranoid or do I get the distinct feeling that somebody is trying to bust my balls?" Well, I do think that you are referring to me with your "'So i'm guessing the party started before 8 am, so is that early for you on a Sunday morning". Either that or you were referring to InitialD, which was unlikely as he already complained about the noise. Or you could be addressing to nobody, and that is hallucination of the worst kind and very disturbing.

:D

[CK One]

(yaya... patience is virtue... how?)

Patience is still virtue. In our mad world, patience and tolerance could save you life and that of your family. I am not advocating that we all become cowards. Put it this way, for a law-abiding man, a loving husband and a loving father, even if I put a parang in your hands, would you slash somebody in a confrontation about a car parking space of somebody overtaking you on the highway? Well, there are people who would not think twice about doing that. We do not move about in the underworld of violence and dark deeds. For me, call me the greatest coward in the world. I live to come home to my family every evening. Alexius. This is not directed at you, but using your words of wisdom to start a conversation. Thanks.

[Alexius Lim]

[QUOTE=CK One]Patience is still virtue. In our mad world, patience and tolerance could save you life and that of your family.......QUOTE]

Totally agree,... but what I meant was hypothetical... not as a statement.

Anyway, being patient is one thing - becoming a patient is totally another. And I would not sit quietly, patiently and tolerate if and when my family, friends or me is threatened or endangered....

Just me, I guess ;)