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sly
19-01-2005, 03:34 PM
Anybody with any details about this mpv priced at 79,888?
Seen it? Drove it? Thinking of buying it? or hate it? :D

sly
19-01-2005, 03:36 PM
orchi, what do you think of this just starting to pregnant hippo? hehe :D

JoeJaffar
19-01-2005, 03:44 PM
i suppose it should be similar to carens, except with a bigger engine. but why do people kept telling me that it's cheap to purchase korean-made cars, but it's not cheap to maintain and repair it? is there any truth in these 'allegations'?

wildbill
19-01-2005, 04:23 PM
Why do ppl keep telling in this forum the car is cheap in Malaysia? :confused:

By comparison with the actual selling price, all the cars are not cheap. :rolleyes:

sly
19-01-2005, 04:25 PM
Is malaysian car cheap? I've wanted to get a better car for years but i'm still stucked with my stupid wira. :D

wildbill
19-01-2005, 04:36 PM
Hi sly, :D ,

I remember one of my friend said, the Proton products are actually not consider as car, there are just a transportation to get from point A to point B. I wonder why :rolleyes:

sly
19-01-2005, 04:45 PM
Hi sly, :D ,

I remember one of my friend said, the Proton products are actually not consider as car, there are just a transportation to get from point A to point B. I wonder why :rolleyes:

coz, saw this in one of the car forum from europe, proton's car is equivalent to a bicycle. A bicycle's main purpose when it's created is to bring you from A to B. comfort and safety came in later when they design cars, but too bad proton is still stucked somewhere in the bicycle's era.

kwchang
20-01-2005, 01:20 AM
My dear members,
Please refrain from Proton-bashing in this thread. There is another thread for that. Please stick to the topic and give your opinions on the new Korean car. Thanks.

patrick
20-01-2005, 01:50 AM
Yeah...how about some views on this car? Wonder if they have it in their showroom in Taipan?

Yup, I have heard about Korean cars being expensive to maintain too. Seems their parts are more expensive than the Jap cars. Technologically, their cars are also supposed to be behind the Japs. I cannot confirm this but I have heard of these comments.

orchipalar
20-01-2005, 02:00 AM
orchi, what do you think of this just starting to pregnant hippo? hehe :D

Err...Sly :) ...that thread hasn't much to do with this for an obvious reason...this thread is about choice of MPVs...nothing to do with SUV...ahem...which is also obviously in another further class above... :cool: :D

Alexius Lim
20-01-2005, 02:45 AM
.....Yup, I have heard about Korean cars being expensive to maintain too. Seems their parts are more expensive than the Jap cars. .......

Hmmmmmmmmmm... and wonder why the car is competitively cheaper eh, :p if they control the parts - they control the price. And you NEED the parts to keep the car from eg. turning left when you want to turn right.... :D And they recoup their profits the other way around.

By the way, the drive shaft on a Kak Sophia's Sephia is almost double a Proton's driveshaft!!
Ouch!

Thankfully, seems prices are getting a bit more affordable - especially in the MPV sectors. Avanza = 62+K, Citra 79+K, Ria 95+K. Wonder who/what will fill the 80+K bracket... :D

orchipalar
20-01-2005, 03:42 AM
Err...with around 95,000km clocked in around 7 years...a particular 1st generation...Honda CRV hasn't yet get any indication to changed its dampers...tie rods...ball joints...bushes...driveshafts...driveshaft covers...propellar shafts...alternator...power steering pump...aircon compressor or blower parts...front headlights bulbs...rear tail lights bulbs...any door fittings or mechanism including power windows...interior fittings or switches...interior lights bulbs...etc etc

Only replacement so far...4-1/2 pcs tyres life...1 set of front disc brake pads...1 pc radiator caps...few sets of front wiper blades...1-1/2 pc of battery life...1 set of beltings including timing belts n guide bearing...7 pcs oil filters...2 pcs of fuel filters...3 pcs of airfilters...3-1/2 sets of spark plugs...28 litres of multigrade engine oils...12 litres of autotransmission fluid...6 litres of rear differential transmissions fluid...ahem...that's about it currently...

The original coate of metalic paint looks like it could shine for another 3 years or so...

Arguably...this Modern Japanese Automobile Classic...would still be reckoned to ride lika a bentley...n goes lika porsche!:o

There is absolutely no hickups from its twincam 16 valves direct fuel injection engine...without that good for no reliability VTEC shiits..churning 140 to 150 japanese horses power!...err...could still do 0-100km/h in 10secs flat.! (dependant on whose behind the steering wheel)without needing to switched off the aircon..ahem!...n still be hitting a max. top speed of 80km/h in urban traffic regulated speedlimit!....as well as getting absolutely no jerks or jolts from its FULLTIME 4x4 drive autotransmissions n limited slip differentials...n finally with an absolutely true average petrol consumption rating of 9 to 10 sens per km driven daily within USJ/SJ/Sunway only....period!

From its initial OTR purchase price of RM103k...this particular CRV 1997 model has all front airbags...ABS brakes...front ventilated large size brake discs...sure footed rear anti lock drum brakes(brake shoes 1/2 life only now)...Independant struts suspensions...about 9 inches of ground clearance...Fully Japan Import CBU...BLACK tinted windows n glass all round except front windscreen...extremely spacious interior(where little Orchis could do flipsy flopping inside..n adults with comfortable space even for quickies)...ample leg rooms when legs are in fully stretched positions... ample seating arrangement for 5 adults...ample heads room even for any of the tall Lakers n with rear booth that could only be filled by equivalent of 4 trolley carts full of groceries..from Tesco or Carrefour.!

Orchi challenges anyone to come up with any sorta benchmark comparison with any competitor makes from any country of origin...which could be similar in classification...category or even from one that could be from a class above of similar vehicle model types...n which might come any close to the above standards...specs n performance...! :cool:

So..why not settle with more...by relying on your hard earned money on a normally more realiable...robust...strong...safer...good value for money...SUV instead?

wildbill
20-01-2005, 10:21 AM
My dear members,
Please refrain from Proton-bashing in this thread. There is another thread for that. Please stick to the topic and give your opinions on the new Korean car. Thanks.

Hi Orchi, :D Only new Korean car, pleeeeeeeeeese.

orchipalar
20-01-2005, 10:44 AM
Err...WildBill :) ...Orchi's point exactly...why this new rojak so called korean MPV with no originality...alibaba reputation...n no value for your money?...why? :D

wildbill
20-01-2005, 10:57 AM
Hi Orchi, :D ,

Yes lor, if we compare the quality of car in Asia, there are scale as follow:

Good...................OK Lah.................Boleh Tahan.............Mana Boleh
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............Japan............................Korea ...........China............Malaysia

orchipalar
20-01-2005, 11:05 AM
Err...Orchi disagrees...in all fairness...whether one is buying a new 1000cc car or a 5000cc gas gustler...one must only settle with a car that brings value for money...there shall be no other compromise! :D

Sato
20-01-2005, 11:13 AM
right Orchi...no point depend on a car that your "can't depend on" :D who know one day u might see me stranded n try pushing the so call "Mana Boleh" Potong SUV to try to jump start halfway up Genting :D

KH EE
20-01-2005, 11:30 AM
one must only settle with a car that brings value for money...there shall be no other compromise! :D

orchi buddy, can start a new thread on what's ur choice of value-for-money cars?

sly
20-01-2005, 11:50 AM
Ok orchi, then my thoughts of getting this citra should be reconsidered. Better go for pregnant hippo categories, SUV. a further class above. :D

Is there any kia carens owner would like to share their experiences? Is it more costly to change any of the parts? Is servicing cost is higher too? Anyone?

orchipalar
20-01-2005, 12:11 PM
Ahem...buddy KH Ee :) ...this is by no means to be any offence to anyone...just Orchi's own experience...phai say :o

1. Under 1000cc...don't buy yet...save up enough or invest wisely...to achieve higher targets....Suggestion: Take A Bus or get a motobike or something like that...

2. Under 1300cc...IF you really gotta have it...n desperate to own one on entry level to impress somebody nice lika...gal or guy friends...please spend sometime to hunt down a well maintained used car with lower mileage = more service life expectancy...established Japanese brand...easy access n cheap spare parts...no need to spend so much unnecessarily now...while you are climbing the ladder...most likely you would loose the money to change other models sooner anyway...Option: See Rule 1.

3. Under 1500cc...IF you are getting an income of less than 3k...no need to look for new models...get a good used one(See Rule 2)...save enough to invest wisely on the rest that you can spare for family from the income...take a rewarding parttime job...Option: See Rule 2. New car option only at lower capacity...Japanese make.

4. Under 1800cc...IF you are getting an income of less than 5k...See Rule 3...you are probably doing some rewarding parttime job...save more money to move up the ladder...n invest wisely on a home property whatever you can spare for family from the income...Option: See Rule 3. New car option only at lower capacity....Japanese make

5. Under 2000cc...IF you are earning less than 10k...See Rule 4...with which you can still impress quite a number of folks with your achievement already...but just enough for yourself n family to get another car(see Rule 4 or under)...so IF you have to...get a good used SUV in this category for yourself...but still in comfortable position to make full use of your money saved for further study or investment...for family as well from the income...Option: IF you must buy New...Japanese SUV better buy than anything else...

6. Above 2.2Litre...IF you are earning more than 10k...ahem...you are on your own ways... :D

sly
20-01-2005, 12:50 PM
Gotta print it out and stick it on my fridge for reminder. :D this 'pei kap' can remind me which category i'm in. small head wear small cap. hehe :D

wildbill
20-01-2005, 03:06 PM
Quote" 6. Above 2.2Litre...IF you are earning more than 10k...ahem...you are on your own ways... "

I though these ppl use company money/other ppl money to drive this range of car, not their own money? :rolleyes:

RolyPoly
20-01-2005, 03:27 PM
Original text by JoeJaffar:

i suppose it should be similar to carens, except with a bigger engine. but why do people kept telling me that it's cheap to purchase korean-made cars, but it's not cheap to maintain and repair it? is there any truth in these 'allegations'?


My mechanic explained this to me, it's not only applicable to Korean-made car e.g. Hyundai, Syangyong, but also French-made ones, e.g. Renault or Peugeot. Reasons why they are not easy to maintain - ties closely to the availability of local-manufactured spare parts. As these cars have not been long or widely purchased in Malaysia as compared to Japanese-made Toyota or Honda, thus they are minimal or none local spare parts manufacturer for them. Most of the parts are directly imported, thus getting the spare parts are expensive. So it's not cheap to maintain those cars where imported parts are used.

orchipalar
20-01-2005, 04:43 PM
Quote" 6. Above 2.2Litre...IF you are earning more than 10k...ahem...you are on your own ways... "

I though these ppl use company money/other ppl money to drive this range of car, not their own money? :rolleyes:

Ahem...WildBill :) ...that is exactly fit to the description...'you are on your own ways...you are there already...no argument about anything with anyone...or do as you see fit...' :D

patrick
20-01-2005, 10:53 PM
Ok, ok...someone asked about the Citra. Here's the little bit that I know.

1. You have two choices. With full accessories at 84k or about 79k without the
DVD player and monitor, alarm and naza cool tint.

2. Waiting time at one dealer is about 3 months. Another said 6-9 months.

3. Overall, not bad with the leather seats, sun roof etc.

And here's a scan to satisfy your curiousty.

ivanhow
21-01-2005, 12:32 AM
Here's the pricing breakdown:

Description-----------------Private (RM)-------Company (RM)
Net Selling Price------------
(inclusive of Govt Duties----
& Accessories Package) ---- 76,789.80 -------- 76,789.80
Registration ------------------ 300.00 ----------- 500.00
Road Tax (1yr) --------------- 386.30 ----------- 552.50
HP Ownership Fee Claim -------- 50.00 ------------ 50.00
Number Plate ----------------- 150.00 ----------- 150.00
Insurance -------------------
(Insured Sum:Rm75,000) ----- 2,211.90 --------- 2,374.50
=============================================
Total Selling Price ----------- 79,888.00 ------- 80,416.80