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fRaNkY
04-01-2005, 11:11 AM
Dear All

Let me hear it. Is it right to make money out of other people's misery? Like the Tsunami Disaster?

1) Is it right for Giant to make a profit from their customer? Telling the customer that what ever the customer bought and donate to the Tsunami victims can be left with them outside the premises? Should Giant make a profit and make more sales? Why cant Giant sell to customer at a discounted price?

2) Is it right for a mobile telco to charge 30cents for a sms when the customer donate Rm1?

3) Is it right for Maybank2u to charge 50cents for register an organisation to donate to?

Anymore I missed?

Or are these organisation seeking cheap publicity :mad:

mackzulkifli
04-01-2005, 11:27 AM
Good question Franky.

pcyeoh
04-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damned on what these organisations practise. They should have more common sense than us especially the Telcos. It is very indecent to suck 30% of your contribution. I cannot rest in peace to do that. Maybe No 1 and No 3 computerisation and resources have limitations. But not the Telcos. They are the ones who can specifically know the traffic. And since they have a very healthy balance sheet, they should have provided the service free. But they rather choose to hide behind their third party partner who is providing the solution. I believe the telco can flex their muscles on them. I don't want them to subsidise them. The point I want to make is that everyone is sacrificing something, why not the third party provider. They should also play a role here. Franky was absolutely right when questioned "Are these organisations seeking cheap publicity?" Well Franky, you have yet to come across many more to come eg a company coming up with a promotion of donating RM 1 for every product he sells. This one I will go up and shoot the fella head. Franky, in the end I give a damned so I am going to curse them. To all those unscrupulous mongrels, may a thousand tsunamis splash on you continuously till eternity and not once in 40 years.

gnehkgnep
04-01-2005, 11:43 AM
Jujur, i m the least bothered.......since these kind of ppl don't give really care for their own ppl.........my advice........stop using their services. :D

euro_usj
04-01-2005, 12:00 PM
There are just too many questions to ask, aren’t there? What about the profiting airliners that provided the transport for the aids, what about the money-making suppliers of all those medical stuffs MERCY has to buy from? What about all those publicity-seeking big-shots who posed with all their HUGE mock-up cheques for the press?

In the end, you decide-lah for yourself to make a difference or not, and which is the best way to do so. Moral or immoral to be profiting from the disaster, difficult for us to be the judge. For me, it does not really matter Giant profits a little, what is more important is Giant has provided me the avenue give 50kg of rice to some needy human beings out there.

fRaNkY
04-01-2005, 12:09 PM
What about the profiting airliners that provided the transport for the aids, .

Mas Kargo and AirAsia are providing free transport.


what about the money-making suppliers of all those medical stuffs MERCY has to buy from? .

They are selling directly to MERCY, perhaps at a discounted price


What about all those publicity-seeking big-shots who posed with all their HUGE mock-up cheques for the press?

They are giving the money.


Yes, GIANT is giving an avenue for people to donate but, cant they sell it at a lower price? You could also donate money to directly, to Mercy and RC.

It is difficult to sort out donated items and then shipped them to the airport and then put on board an airplane. Easier to buy bulk in and ship it.

What I meant is Giant should waive their profit, Maybank2u waive their 50cents and mobile telco their 30cents. :rolleyes:

KH EE
04-01-2005, 12:42 PM
maybe giant should pledged rm1 for every rm1 donated or a 10kg bag of rice for every 10kg bag of rice donated.

gnehkgnep
04-01-2005, 01:39 PM
I don't think they r giant enough to do so...........since they never refund your purchase if the product gone cuckoo.........maybe u should approach Tesco or Carrefour........they certainly pay u back your money if their product no good........no question ask!!!

Likewise.....should do the same to Maybank and Telcos........ :)

jericho
04-01-2005, 04:51 PM
To save yourself from these misery questions lingering around your mind, you have the OPTIONS to donate by Credit Card to reputable International Aid Organisations through the internet. They are working on the common goal, to help the hundreds of thousands of children and families struggling to survive the aftermath of the Asian earthquakes and tsunamis and of course other causes as well. Make a donation and at the same time collect points from your Credit Card company thus no more misery questions lingering about.


http://www.ifrccee.org/kepek/ifrc_head.gif (http://www.ifrc.org/)
Asian earthquakes and tsunamis online donation to International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) (http://donate.ifrc.org/)


http://www.supportunicef.org/atf/cf/%7BE1134BFE-3A9D-49AB-A78A-4CB24D1F3B4D%7D/logo.gif (http://www.unicef.org/)
Asian earthquakes and tsunamis online donation to United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund (UNICEF ) (http://www.supportunicef.org/site/pp.asp?c=iuI1LdP0G&b=276341)


https://ssl.care.org/graphics/templates/ff6600/carelogo.gif (http://www.care.org/)
Asian earthquakes and tsunamis online donation to Cooperative for Assistance and Relief Everywhere, Inc. (CARE International) (https://donate.care.org/05/20180000/?source=170570020000)


http://www.wfp.org/img/WFP_logo_white.gif (http://www.wfp.org/)
Asian earthquakes and tsunamis online donation to United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) (http://www.wfp.org/donate)


http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/images/global/msflogo.gif (http://www.msf.org/)
Asian earthquakes and tsunamis online donation suspended at this time due to sufficient fund raised Medecins Sans Frontieres/Doctors Without Borders (MSF) (http://www.msf.org/donations/index.cfm)


Any more questions to bicker about ??

KH EE
04-01-2005, 04:57 PM
Any more questions to bicker about ??

Yes! what abt security when u transact thru the net with spyware ready to pounce onto your credit card details? also most, if not all M'sian-issued credit cards can't be used on the net.

to save the trouble write a cheque to Persatuan Bulan Sabit M'sia & drop it off at the nearest Giant/Guardian/Cold Storage outlet. :)

fRaNkY
05-01-2005, 03:58 PM
maybe giant should pledged rm1 for every rm1 donated or a 10kg bag of rice for every 10kg bag of rice donated.

This, I agree.

pcyeoh
05-01-2005, 04:32 PM
I totally disagree with the suggestion by Giant Hypermarket. Isn't it ridiculous to fork out money and buy the goods from Giant and ship them a thousand kilometres away? How much is a bottle of 5 litres of mineral water? Think of the cost and the logistic to make it available to the victim. And what about rice? Isn't it cheaper to get the local supplier to supply in bulk? Do you know that rice is heavily subsidised by our government? So why stress on our governemnt. Won't you think by buying locally at the affected countries, we are also helping the local economy to strive during this hard time by buying all the things within that country.

What about drugs? How much can you and I supply? Drugs are not like underwear. It has shelf life and sensitive to heat and water. It needs proper handling. I remember our 'pharmacist' Orchi mentioned about these factors. Don't you think it will be cheaper to buy them in bulk and get the pharmaceutical producers to ship it there? They can also offer 'buy one and get 100 free.' At least you get uniformity. The way we are doing it we will get 10 kinds of everything else just for pain killer, you have disprin, panadol, etc etc. Whoever in Giant came up with this idea is thinking of revenue and profitability. So I want to direct the question "Is it right to make money out of other people's misery?" to them. They should have encouraged their customers to donate cash and match it ringgit for ringgit by placing cash boxes in all Giant outlets. I understand Summit is doing this and will be launching this campaign tomorrow.

ksj_cool
05-01-2005, 04:36 PM
Those who make money out of other people's misery will sure find a place in hell..

orchipalar
05-01-2005, 04:37 PM
Ahem...PCYeoh :) ...you have valid concerns n arguments about Giant...err...for that matter also...since some months back...whatever it is that comes out of Giant...Orchi files it under capital BnG...Boycott n Garbage! :rolleyes: