Kelana Mahkota Condo Pre Management Committee

[totoro]

8' X 8' wall mirror cost me RM 2800.

Plaster ceiling for living and dinning from cost me RM 2600.

Full tiles for 2 bathroom cost me RM 1600.

Full tiles for yard cost me RM 2100.

Full height shoe cabinet cost me RM 1500

This is the quotation I get from my contractor....is it reasonable??

Does the plaster ceiling include costs for wiring and downlights? Is it 100% plaster or just partially? How abour cornices?

[Tarantula]

alex & totoro,

i am also getting a quotation from one contractor recommended by a friend of mine.. a chinese contractor.. very nice person and friendly... according to him, my quotation for plaster ceiling for the whole house including kitchen and bathroom will cost me around RM2000+.. does not include cornice and downlight.. so hold on, let me confirm with him... may be i can introduce to all of u.. and get him to give best price..

his workmanship is good.. i have seen at my friend place..

regards..

[Tarantula]

do u guys know, can we hack the kitchen wall next to the kitchen door so that the opening is wider and hack the half wall at the dining area? are we allowed to do that?

i get one contractor to quote me on the hacking job.. he quoted me RM1800... but the other contractor that i mentioned in earlier posting, only quoted me few hundreds only.. .hiyaaaa...

[totoro]

alex & totoro,

i am also getting a quotation from one contractor recommended by a friend of mine.. a chinese contractor.. very nice person and friendly... according to him, my quotation for plaster ceiling for the whole house including kitchen and bathroom will cost me around RM2000+.. does not include cornice and downlight.. so hold on, let me confirm with him... may be i can introduce to all of u.. and get him to give best price..

his workmanship is good.. i have seen at my friend place..

regards..

Cool! Buy together = bigger discounts! Of course, this doesn't seem to be applying to panel contractors.. ??? :rolleyes:

[totoro]

do u guys know, can we hack the kitchen wall next to the kitchen door so that the opening is wider and hack the half wall at the dining area? are we allowed to do that?

i get one contractor to quote me on the hacking job.. he quoted me RM1800... but the other contractor that i mentioned in earlier posting, only quoted me few hundreds only.. .hiyaaaa...

I think we need developer approval for structural renovation, but the panel contractors told me a few owners are doing it, e.g. break down the half walls at the split-level stairs to widen the entrance.

[Tarantula]

as long as u dont do something that could affect the overall structure of the building, should be ok.. as for the half wall at dining, surely will not affect anything... even the show unit also they demolished the wall..

my concern now at the kitchen wall... looking at the wall, i think should be ok to demolish it.. unless management doesnt allow.. i dont know lah..

[alexcttan]

as long as u dont do something that could affect the overall structure of the building, should be ok.. as for the half wall at dining, surely will not affect anything... even the show unit also they demolished the wall..

my concern now at the kitchen wall... looking at the wall, i think should be ok to demolish it.. unless management doesnt allow.. i dont know lah..

I am removing the whole kitchen door and widen it.

My plaster ceiling includes downlight but no cornies

[chinmin]

8' X 8' wall mirror cost me RM 2800.

Plaster ceiling for living and dinning from cost me RM 2600.

Full tiles for 2 bathroom cost me RM 1600.

Full tiles for yard cost me RM 2100.

Full height shoe cabinet cost me RM 1500

This is the quotation I get from my contractor....is it reasonable??
Alex,

The price u got for your mirror is expensive.
I got quoted for 8 x 8 feet mirror c/w frame about RM1,400.
But please take note that the maximum size to fit into the lift is about 6 x 7 feet unless you are staying on the lower ground than they can carry up using staircase.

[totoro]

Oh no! I wonder if they will mind carrying a 8'x8' mirror via the stairs to the top floor... ? :D

[Tarantula]

alex, u are removing the whole kitchen wall? hmm must be the same situation like me... do let me know what the management says..

ur quotation RM2600 on plaster ceiling includes downlight? how big is ur area for plaster ceiling? dining + living only?

they have many types of downlight in the market.. so far, the cheapest i found was RM22 per set inclusve of the bulb (osram or philips).. the stainless steel one or with some design is RM28 per set.. unless anyone here has better place to shop for downlight.. please let me know...

i am also looking for ceiling fan with remote control... national/panasonic brand.. can anyone recommend me any shops that can give good price of this fan? i saw in carrefour the price is RM259 per unit.. kinda expensive...

regards,

[totoro]

they have many types of downlight in the market.. so far, the cheapest i found was RM22 per set inclusve of the bulb (osram or philips).. the stainless steel one or with some design is RM28 per set.. unless anyone here has better place to shop for downlight.. please let me know...

i am also looking for ceiling fan with remote control... national/panasonic brand.. can anyone recommend me any shops that can give good price of this fan? i saw in carrefour the price is RM259 per unit.. kinda expensive...

regards,

erm, is it cheaper if you buy the downlights yourself instead of through the contractor doing your plaster ceiling?

the Pana ceiling fan costs RM215 (or was it RM225) at the Tong Kong Panashop, SS2/24 for the 4-blade Bayu model, 5-blade will be RM245.

[totoro]

HSL puts up recommended retail prices online (RRP), so you can check out most electrical and electronic products and prices online at: http://www.hslene.com.my/default_ca.htm

Cheers!

[Tarantula]

thanks... RM215 sounds reasonable.. my friend bought the fan at the price of RM200 from selayang.. but dont know which part of selayang... let me find out..

[totoro]

The panel contractors quoted kitchen cabinets in nyatoh ply and not melamine (i.e. compressed chipboard). i was looking at melamine because of the wider selection of textures and designs, and also membrane pressed (postformed wood aka laminate) for the hi-gloss, seamless look.

I talked to an outside contractor about nyatoh ply and he said that nobody does this anymore. The seams are not ABS and look terribly ugly? I don't know how true this is, but I don't have the confidence to let the panel design and built my kitchen anymore.

Is it actually that bad? I don't really know much about these kinda things, so I'll be glad if someone can correct me if I got it wrong.

[Tarantula]

totoro,

i used to go to Hosana Kitchen in subang jaya.. get them to quote me on the L shape cabinet for our kitchen using Membrane Pressed wood.. the quotation seems to be reasonable. around RM4000+..

personally i think, if u are on budget, membrane pressed should give u a good look of ur kitchen if u match it nicely with the correct color scheme.. besides, the price also not too much..

the question now.. can Hosana Kitchen produce good quality of workmanship..

so far, that's the best price i get in town..

[C&E]

Based on my experience, the quotation for kit cab normally is WITHOUT the price for accessories, ie. without sink bowl (and therefore the piping works), sand-glass (and the aluminium frames that come together), drawers (oh yes!) and other "additional" stuff.
Also, the skirting for the kit cab that comes together with it is normally made in plastic+woods. Thus, if u wish to do a solid cement skirting, it will be additional charges.

[totoro]

Thanks for sharing and the info!

I have been reading Palm Springs' forum, and it seems they have been quoted the following for ceiling fans and lighting installation:

1) ceiling fan RM15 + cabling RM40
2) lights RM7

[C&E]

Thanks for sharing and the info!

I have been reading Palm Springs' forum, and it seems they have been quoted the following for ceiling fans and lighting installation:

1) ceiling fan RM15 + cabling RM40
2) lights RM7

For lighting (in the case of downlight), does the installation include cutting out the "hole" in the ceiling for the downlights?
I've been made to understand that, "cut hole" is one cost, then pasang the downlights is another cost..... :(

[totoro]

totoro,

i used to go to Hosana Kitchen in subang jaya.. get them to quote me on the L shape cabinet for our kitchen using Membrane Pressed wood.. the quotation seems to be reasonable. around RM4000+..

personally i think, if u are on budget, membrane pressed should give u a good look of ur kitchen if u match it nicely with the correct color scheme.. besides, the price also not too much..

the question now.. can Hosana Kitchen produce good quality of workmanship..

so far, that's the best price i get in town..

I just went Hosana Kitchen...

They quoted me 6.5' x 12', local solid surface, membrane hi-gloss for about RM10k. Without solid surface, is about 7k still... :confused:

Totoro
water-fish-strikes-again

[totoro]

By the way, does anyone know what is going to happen to the site between Kelana Square and Mahkota? It was slated to be shoplots, but that area hasn't been developed for years. There is also an oxidization pond at the corner of the entrance to Jalan SS7/26 (surrounded by fencing) across from the fishing pond restaurant.

If ever these places get developed, maybe the property value might increase further.

[Andryn]

thanks... RM215 sounds reasonable.. my friend bought the fan at the price of RM200 from selayang.. but dont know which part of selayang... let me find out..


we bought the ceiling fan for RM198 (remote control) during promotion

[ciderblue]

Alex,

The price u got for your mirror is expensive.
I got quoted for 8 x 8 feet mirror c/w frame about RM1,400.
But please take note that the maximum size to fit into the lift is about 6 x 7 feet unless you are staying on the lower ground than they can carry up using staircase.

Hi Alex,
You mentioned 6x7 for the mirror, what about for furniture? I went to Haus of Living concept @ Damansara Perdana, I quite like the sofa (4 seater) but I worry it can't fit into the lift. Anyone know bout the lift specification? What is the maximum furniture size (W x D x H) that can fit in the lift? :confused:

P/s: If not mistaken, they charge RM15 per floor per furniture to hand carry it up.

[ciderblue]

erm, is it cheaper if you buy the downlights yourself instead of through the contractor doing your plaster ceiling?

the Pana ceiling fan costs RM215 (or was it RM225) at the Tong Kong Panashop, SS2/24 for the 4-blade Bayu model, 5-blade will be RM245.

Month ago I checked the price for Pana (4 blades), both Onking and Megatronic selling at RM200 (cash n carry)

[totoro]

Dear neighbours,

I got a call for re-inspection scheduled for next week. That would be about 45 days after my 1st inspection. But, things seem to be moving along. More and more keys have been handed over. In a month or two, this will be all over. :D

[Tarantula]

totoro,

hiyaa.. ur quotation for kitchen cabinet is RM10 with top solid surface and RM7 with the solid surface?... hmmm how come eh? may be because of the high gloss finishing?..

my quotation was only on the cabinet.. normal one lehh.. not including the accessories..

the quotation for downlight, i think ranging from RM60 - RM80 per point.. that includes.. price of downlight (bulb etc), price of cutting the ceiling and installation.. quotation from my contractor is RM70 per point.. so if u decide to have 30 points, then mesti mahal mehhh...

on the ceiling fan, the price should be around RM200 - RM215 per unit.. if u can get at the price of RM215, then buy lahh.. no use surveying around.. wasting time, petrol etc.. at the end, the cost even higher..

[totoro]

totoro,

hiyaa.. ur quotation for kitchen cabinet is RM10 with top solid surface and RM7 with the solid surface?... hmmm how come eh? may be because of the high gloss finishing?..

my quotation was only on the cabinet.. normal one lehh.. not including the accessories..


oic, so RM4k is not membrane press la... because without membrane will cost about RM4k+ like your quotation.

membrane press with matte color is cheaper, hi-gloss is more expensive, and with some recessed panel designs, is also more expensive...

but i'm still wondering if I really should spend a few k on nicer cabinet doors, and another few k on a solid surface, or should I just get formica laminate...

but i'm definitely sold on Blum accessories. :D

decisions, decisions... :rolleyes:

[exiled_criminal]

Dear neighbours,

I got a call for re-inspection scheduled for next week. That would be about 45 days after my 1st inspection. But, things seem to be moving along. More and more keys have been handed over. In a month or two, this will be all over. :D

Hi when was your 1st inspection? mine was on 1 feb and still no news yet.

[totoro]

Hi when was your 1st inspection? mine was on 1 feb and still no news yet.

near the end of January lor... I think 23rd?

[C&E]

near the end of January lor... I think 23rd?

exiled criminal & totoro,
hey guys, which block r u guys in?

just now i called up the resident engineer, Mr Lee, he said they r still working on block C (my block) :(
so i wanna cross-check his statement :p
Mr Lee also said that the CF will be ready by end of this month or early April (see, see, its getting later and later liao.....) :(
He said everything is ready, now just awaiting for MPPJ's Pengarah's signature only. But the thing is, the Pengarah has just passed away :eek: !
I just don't know what else will happen after this...... :confused:

[exiled_criminal]

exiled criminal & totoro,
hey guys, which block r u guys in?

just now i called up the resident engineer, Mr Lee, he said they r still working on block C (my block) :(
so i wanna cross-check his statement :p
Mr Lee also said that the CF will be ready by end of this month or early April (see, see, its getting later and later liao.....) :(
He said everything is ready, now just awaiting for MPPJ's Pengarah's signature only. But the thing is, the Pengarah has just passed away :eek: !
I just don't know what else will happen after this...... :confused:

I am block C too. I wonder if without CF can the building have power supply? But then everynight i pass by KM, I notice the lights in the staircase turn on.
Thats why i suspect they have CF in hand already.

[totoro]

I am block C too. I wonder if without CF can the building have power supply? But then everynight i pass by KM, I notice the lights in the staircase turn on.
Thats why i suspect they have CF in hand already.

We can ask the panel contractors if they have started work on any units. If they have, it means either their CF's out, or...

[shel]

We can ask the panel contractors if they have started work on any units. If they have, it means either their CF's out, or...

Hi. I'm from Block C too. I went to KM last Saturday and saw a couple carrying paint out from their car. I wonder if they are gonna paint their unit? I also saw some owners with broom and mop... according to Richard, CF will only be out end of March or early April. Why is the CF becoming later & later...? :mad: I thought they said after CNY?

[HUHHH???]

May I know anyone from Block B here? So far... not a piece of news yet.

[duxz]

yup.... looks like the CF is being postpone over and over again. I was told it was suppose to be before CNY... then later another story of after CNY... and now early April??? wadda hell is going on in there. I ask around some of my friends who are in the development line and i was told it takes maximum of 4 weeks to get it done.

Are they hidding something from us because they are short handed in dealing with the defects? Or would they prefer us to storm up to the ministry of housing department to check if the CF is ready and we can take further legal action on this issue?

Lucky me that i have a place to stay while waiting for the CF to be ready after donkey months.... but what about to those who are renting a place?? its a pity to them as they can allocate a proper time to move out. For them to delay our CF and hand over isnt much of a problem? but when it comes to us making our payment a week late... they start charging us sky high interest???? :mad:

[Tarantula]

i was told by a friend of mine.. that some projects are delayed due to no manpower after government decided to send back all the PATI to indonesia and those ppl having problems to come back to Malaysia.. that could be the reason also lahh..

[totoro]

My friends told me that you can start re-painting and other renovation works as soon as you get your keys, as CF is only for legally moving into the residence?

I guess starting renovations just voids the defect liability from the developer. But I checked a bit further regarding the CF issue, and it seems like MPPJ will withhold the CF if they find that illegal renovations are being undertaken at the premises, or if some units have been illegally occupied. Illegal because it is being done without a CF...

Further information regarding the CF: (http://www.kpkt.gov.my/artikel/perumahan/eng12.html)

According to the Uniform Building By-laws 1994 (UBBL), no one can occupy or be allowed to occupy any part of a building unless a CF or a temporary CF has been issued according to the Street, Drainage and Buildings Act.

Changes were made to the UBBL in 1999.

For other building, the CF is deemed issued although the relevant Local Council has not issued it within 14 days after the date the application or Form E has been received.

So, when did SMI Cityhome submit their Form E?

[C&E]

SMI has this PJ@Sterling project.
if they screwed up in KM, that project won't sell anymore!!!

[totoro]

SMI has this PJ@Sterling project.
if they screwed up in KM, that project won't sell anymore!!!

I got a letter from SMI offering preferrential selection of units and a 5% discount from SMI for purchasing units in Sterling@PJ.

This morning I also got a SMI flyer in my mailbox for the Sterling project as well.

[totoro]

Shower screens:

Fibreglass (polystrene) aluminium frame sliding door 6' x 3' - I was quoted RM560. 2 years warranty at the Shower Door shop at D'sara Utama, Uptown.

[Andryn]

May I know anyone from Block B here? So far... not a piece of news yet.

hi im from block B. sorry i still have not get any good news about the cf :mad: . im going to see my unit again tomorrow late afternoon. how about you? your unit is at which floor? we're from 13th floor.

[Andryn]

i spoke to ms key from smi last week. she said that smi received the from E already. it just that they still have not receive the CF. she is waiting for the green light only. she said that she needs more people to call to smi so that the gov can speed up with the CF. she also mentioned ..she just needs to record the unit no. so that she can submit it to her boss and let the boss deal with the gov. :confused:

[chinmin]

Shower screens:

Fibreglass (polystrene) aluminium frame sliding door 6' x 3' - I was quoted RM560. 2 years warranty at the Shower Door shop at D'sara Utama, Uptown.
Just remember to keep your shower screen dry after taking your shower. Cause I am sure that sometimes you may keep the door open after you shower. After some time moss may grow at the sides. I have seen this happening before.
Or else spend a bit more and get the full length glass shower door which opens and close like and ordinary door.

[exiled_criminal]

i spoke to ms key from smi last week. she said that smi received the from E already. it just that they still have not receive the CF. she is waiting for the green light only. she said that she needs more people to call to smi so that the gov can speed up with the CF. she also mentioned ..she just needs to record the unit no. so that she can submit it to her boss and let the boss deal with the gov. :confused:

i think we should call MPPJ just to double confirm. Furthermore, SMI should complete the defect lists in a month time after the 1st inspection. Or else we shall start writing to them and bill them the cost of rectification.

[exiled_criminal]

Current legislation on CFs

In the Sale and Purchase Agreements regulated under Schedules G and H of
the Housing Development (Control and Licensing) Act and the Regulations
that come with it, housing developers have to support the notice of vacant
possession given to the buyers with "... a letter of confirmation from the
appropriate authority, certifying that Form E (application for CF), as
prescribed under the Second Schedule to the Uniform Building By-Laws 1984,
has been submitted by the vendor and checked and accepted by the
appropriate authority".
This procedure was made mandatory because of the bad experiences many
house buyers have suffered: Errant developers, through their appointed
(and equally wayward) project consultants, declare they have "applied for
the CF" when in fact they had not. They then deliver vacant possession to
the unsuspecting buyers.
Without the local council accepting the Form E and without the delivery
of vacant possession to the buyers, a developer will not be able to
collect the final 20 per cent payment on the purchase price, and could
even face the prospect of paying compensation claims for late delivery.
To enhance CF issuance, Section 7(i) was included in the housing law,
which requires a developer to "inform the Controller of Housing if the
appropriate authority has refused to accept the submission of CF". This is
to end the suffering by developers of any delay, deliberate or otherwise,
caused by a local council.
The Uniform Building By-Laws, 1984 (UBBL) was also amended and a "14-day
rule" put in place to ensure that local authorities approve any CF applied
for within that period, failing which it would be "deemed as approved".

[totoro]

Just remember to keep your shower screen dry after taking your shower. Cause I am sure that sometimes you may keep the door open after you shower. After some time moss may grow at the sides. I have seen this happening before.
Or else spend a bit more and get the full length glass shower door which opens and close like and ordinary door.

thanks for the tip! i guess the sliding door is the only option here as the bathroom is really too small to have a swing door. otherwise it'd be like those toilets booths where you need to squeeze to one tiny corner of the booth just so you can close the door behind you! :D

[totoro]

Some good news on the Kelana Jaya Lake:

Read in the Star paper today that PKNS has handed over the KJL to MPPJ, who will change the land title description from building to recreation permanently. PKNS workers will be shifted to another residence. This does not affect Glomac's bungalow units and office blocks nearby.

[nkent]

Dentist attacked at MPPJ Lake Gardens in Kelana Jaya:

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/3/8/nation/10352151&sec=nation

The dentist did not make it...
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/archives/story.asp?ppath=\2005\3\9&file=/2005/3/9/nation/10363586&sec=nation
obviously it is not nice to hear something like this happened near KM... :(

[totoro]

I went to Sterling@PJ yesterday after my visit to my unit, and it looks like there are a lot of bookings already being made for pool-facing units. :)

[tfleong]

Hi! I'm new to this forum, but have been reading all the happenings here from page 1 :) Like u guys, me too bought a unit of KM. Mine's in Block C, Type D. By the way, just wanna check with u guys some quotes that I got from few contractors.

Grill, quoted by panel contractor:

Main door (5 1/2' x 10')
Master room window (6' x 4')
Room 2 window (6' x 4')
Family Room window (4' x 4')
Yard (10' x 4 1/2')
Bath 1 (2' x 4')
Balcony (10' x 7')

In total : Type A - RM 2085, Type B - RM 2405, Type C - RM 2020
Type D - RM 2105

All prices are for metal, 6" except for type B is 4"

These prices are based on what I've been quoted so far:

Lightings points (installation only) - RM 10, Fan points - RM 15-20
Add a door to family room - RM 780 including door frame and touch up
Air cond piping + hacking + touchup in master room - RM 400+
Panasonic celing fan without remote control - RM 110 - RM 120
Lightings (Standard fluorescent) - RM 25
Door bell (including installation) - RM 60
Additional fan point + fan for room 2 - RM 180

Still looking for contractors for the grill. Anyone got any other prices quoted? Wanna compare a few before finally deciding.

Thanks.

[Tarantula]

all in all.. i believe, the quotation more or less is the same especially when it comes to wiring installation.. you may find one contractor charging high on grill, but low wiring.. vice versa.. what ever it is.. make sure the finishing is good and quality one..

happy searching..

[Psalm91]

Greetings Neighbours,

Does anyone here know if I can add on some "new" defects to the inspection list ? Missed out some during the first inspection.

Secondly, I noticed that the plaster/cement for the floor tiles in the living area were half white & gray (not consistent) and other areas at the upper level were all gray cement. Is this considered a defect, since I was told that it was going to be white ? Do your units carry the same "defects"?

Lastly, are we allowed to bring in our own contractors to check the place?

Thanks!

[totoro]

Greetings Neighbours,

Does anyone here know if I can add on some "new" defects to the inspection list ? Missed out some during the first inspection.

Secondly, I noticed that the plaster/cement for the floor tiles in the living area were half white & gray (not consistent) and other areas at the upper level were all gray cement. Is this considered a defect, since I was told that it was going to be white ? Do your units carry the same "defects"?

Lastly, are we allowed to bring in our own contractors to check the place?

Thanks!

Hi,

I just added some new defects for my unit, as their re-painting job created some minor paint defects, but I hear it can be resolved pretty quick.

I noticed the tilings as well, but I really don't know how or what to do about it, so I just let it be. I think it's ok to bring contractors to check the place, but the panel contractors will not like it very much.

[exiled_criminal]

Greetings Neighbours,

Does anyone here know if I can add on some "new" defects to the inspection list ? Missed out some during the first inspection.

Lastly, are we allowed to bring in our own contractors to check the place?

Thanks!

YES I have done the above

[Psalm91]

Who can I contact to inspect the unit again ? As for the tiling... I really don't like the cement color and esp., the living area where it isn't consistent (makes it even worse). I will bring this up when I add on the defects. Hopefully they will do something about it. The showroom unit tiling looked immaculate...so different from the actually ones. Am a little dissapointed that the workmanship, one of my friends commented that it was a little shoddy. :(

[shel]

Who can I contact to inspect the unit again ? As for the tiling... I really don't like the cement color and esp., the living area where it isn't consistent (makes it even worse). I will bring this up when I add on the defects. Hopefully they will do something about it. The showroom unit tiling looked immaculate...so different from the actually ones. Am a little dissapointed that the workmanship, one of my friends commented that it was a little shoddy. :(

Psalm91, there's nothing we can do about it. I'm having the same problem as you too. I checked with Richard Kok regarding this matter before during my first inspection. He said there's nothing they can do about it. Well, i guess you just have to live with it. :(

[totoro]

The tiling for the blocks are done by different contractors, so I guess for example, Block A and Block C residents will probably see different worksmanship kua...

[Psalm91]

*sigh* Ok lah.... guess I'll just have to live with. Oh yes, are they giving us built-in gas connection ?

[totoro]

*sigh* Ok lah.... guess I'll just have to live with. Oh yes, are they giving us built-in gas connection ?

No built-in gas. Btw, the tiles grouting and sealing you can try to DIY. Otherwise, maybe you can try to talk to the contractors and see what they can do...

[Psalm91]

Maybe will get contractors to do it. If DIY for the whole house..that would be v. tedious. Are you planning to get this done ?

[exiled_criminal]

ANy cark park for rent or sales? and how much?

[totoro]

ANy cark park for rent or sales? and how much?

Typically, the developer will be renting and selling out some car parks soon. Then, some enterprising owners/residents will start renting out theirs at a slight discount... :D

How does RM80 per month for a ground floor carpark (next to lift, safe and secure) sound?

[HUHHH???]

hi im from block B. sorry i still have not get any good news about the cf :mad: . im going to see my unit again tomorrow late afternoon. how about you? your unit is at which floor? we're from 13th floor.

Hi Andryn, we're on the 5th floor. Just want to ask. Is the lift in blk B functioning now? How did you manage to reinspect your unit. Do you have to make an appointment? we want to C d unit again to decide what to do.

[HUHHH???]

Hi! I'm new to this forum, but have been reading all the happenings here from page 1 :) Like u guys, me too bought a unit of KM. Mine's in Block C, Type D. By the way, just wanna check with u guys some quotes that I got from few contractors.

Grill, quoted by panel contractor:

Main door (5 1/2' x 10')
Master room window (6' x 4')
Room 2 window (6' x 4')
Family Room window (4' x 4')
Yard (10' x 4 1/2')
Bath 1 (2' x 4')
Balcony (10' x 7')

In total : Type A - RM 2085, Type B - RM 2405, Type C - RM 2020
Type D - RM 2105

All prices are for metal, 6" except for type B is 4"

These prices are based on what I've been quoted so far:

Lightings points (installation only) - RM 10, Fan points - RM 15-20
Add a door to family room - RM 780 including door frame and touch up
Air cond piping + hacking + touchup in master room - RM 400+
Panasonic celing fan without remote control - RM 110 - RM 120
Lightings (Standard fluorescent) - RM 25
Door bell (including installation) - RM 60
Additional fan point + fan for room 2 - RM 180

Still looking for contractors for the grill. Anyone got any other prices quoted? Wanna compare a few before finally deciding.

Thanks.

Hi.. we have a type D unit in Block B. the quotation i got for air-cond piping +.... was RM 500. Just interested to know.. what is your comment about the size of the family area? We can only think of using it as a store room but are interested to know how can we utilize that small space.

[alexcttan]

Hi,

I am staying in block b too, 9th floor. They gave me my key last Saturday. They did not fix all my defects (some chipped tiles), but I just can't wait and asked them to give me my key and get my contractor to do it for me. SMI is a bit short handed to call unit owner to come for reinspection, so you might as well just go and have a look.

[Andryn]

Hi Huhhhh!,

Nope, you dont have to make an appointment. One of the lifts is working. So, all you need to do is just go up to you unit and do the inspection yourself. If the door is locked, you can get the keys from the management office. This only apply from Mondays-Saturdays, during working hours.

Once you are done, dont forget to pass the defect/inspection list to the project executive that attended to you during the first inspection.

Regards.

[totoro]

guys,

what's the price range for concrete base for kitchen cabinet, plus 2'x2' tiles?

[Psalm91]

guys,

what's the price range for concrete base for kitchen cabinet, plus 2'x2' tiles?


I've got 2 quotations for a 14 ft concrete base, using 2'x2' high-shine tiles :
1st. RM2520.00
2nd. RM2080.00

[totoro]

Ok... thanks. I got quoted RM180 per foot run. However, the tiles are White Horse. If it's China tiles, it is cheaper by a few hundred.

[Psalm91]

Didn't ask if it was branded tiles or china made. Most probably the cheaper one is from China. I was told that 2' x 2' tiles are normally from china (but that they come with a sirim marking). White horse tiles are made in M'sia

[tfleong]

Well, the family room is pretty small though. I'm thinking of renting my unit out and therefore depends on to which type of ppl I'm renting it out to. If to working singles, I might do a door and treat it as a small room, still got space for a mattress and a small cupboard though if placed properly. If to family, I might juz leave it like that. Any idea?

[tfleong]

By the way, anyone else has got a contractor for wiring and grill already? Still looking for a few more. Can gimme the contact?

[totoro]

Well, the family room is pretty small though. I'm thinking of renting my unit out and therefore depends on to which type of ppl I'm renting it out to. If to working singles, I might do a door and treat it as a small room, still got space for a mattress and a small cupboard though if placed properly. If to family, I might juz leave it like that. Any idea?

How do you add a door to the family area? This means you have to wall up the entire perimeter around the family area right?

[SHiGE]

How do you add a door to the family area? This means you have to wall up the entire perimeter around the family area right?
I think he referring to the small no door study room?

Anyway, wanna ask about the grill. Since we need to follow the design of the grill, are we force to use their panel grill contractor to fix it or can we actually ask our own contractor to follow the specifiation and fix it for us?

[totoro]

I think he referring to the small no door study room?

Anyway, wanna ask about the grill. Since we need to follow the design of the grill, are we force to use their panel grill contractor to fix it or can we actually ask our own contractor to follow the specifiation and fix it for us?

Oic, coz he mentioned he was type D.

Can get outside contractors for grille, but I don't find much difference in the price quoted.

[Psalm91]

Anyone here care to share quotes for grilles ? I've not shopped around for this, neither have the panel contractors gotten back with the quote. I plan to install at the main entrance, all bdroom windows & yard. Just wondering, are any of you installing grille to the mbdroom bathroom window ? I was told by the panel that many were going to.

[C&E]

Anyway, wanna ask about the grill. Since we need to follow the design of the grill, are we force to use their panel grill contractor to fix it or can we actually ask our own contractor to follow the specifiation and fix it for us?

Talked to Mr Lee, the resident engineer. he said no fixed design for the grill!!!!!!!!! it is up to the owners to choose the design!!! :eek:
However, the owners have to follow one rule: ie the grill for balcony must be fixed inside the sliding door (facing living hall), instead of outside the sliding door (facing balcony).

So now, which is which? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[totoro]

Talked to Mr Lee, the resident engineer. he said no fixed design for the grill!!!!!!!!! it is up to the owners to choose the design!!! :eek:
So now, which is which? :confused: :confused: :confused:

He might have meant you can choose 1 out of the 4 design, and 1 out of the 3 colors. :rolleyes:

[Psalm91]

Talked to Mr Lee, the resident engineer. he said no fixed design for the grill!!!!!!!!! it is up to the owners to choose the design!!! :eek:
However, the owners have to follow one rule: ie the grill for balcony must be fixed inside the sliding door (facing living hall), instead of outside the sliding door (facing balcony).

So now, which is which? :confused: :confused: :confused:


How to fix grill inside (before) the sliding door ? :confused: Won't it look odd ? Have never seen grilles fixed this way. Most are fixed outside

[Psalm91]

So... Is anyone fixing grilles to the masterbedroom window ? I was told many owners were going to do this.

[Psalm91]

So... Is anyone fixing grilles to the masterbedroom window ? I was told many owners were going to do this.


Sorry, I meant to say masterbedroom bathroom window :D

[totoro]

Sorry, I meant to say masterbedroom bathroom window :D

What for? You shower in that area, and you can't possibly fix it outside (window doesn't open that way), plus unless you stay at the ground floor, noone can feasibly make their way to your bathroom window! :)

[Tarantula]

Talked to Mr Lee, the resident engineer. he said no fixed design for the grill!!!!!!!!! it is up to the owners to choose the design!!! :eek:
However, the owners have to follow one rule: ie the grill for balcony must be fixed inside the sliding door (facing living hall), instead of outside the sliding door (facing balcony).

So now, which is which? :confused: :confused: :confused:

I think only someone crazy would fix their grille inside.. instead of outside facing the balcony... hiyaa.. this SMI really turn me off..

[Psalm91]

What for? You shower in that area, and you can't possibly fix it outside (window doesn't open that way), plus unless you stay at the ground floor, noone can feasibly make their way to your bathroom window! :)


Am thinking the same, I also thought it made no sense at all ??.. Anyway, this was what one of the panel contractors told me, that ppl are installing grilles in the mbdroom bathroom.

[duxz]

Typically, the developer will be renting and selling out some car parks soon. Then, some enterprising owners/residents will start renting out theirs at a slight discount... :D

How does RM80 per month for a ground floor carpark (next to lift, safe and secure) sound?

Hey totoro,

If u are renting out a parking space which is next to the lift ...... i m on for RM80. (btw... which block are u located?)

[exiled_criminal]

Hey totoro,

If u are renting out a parking space which is next to the lift ...... i m on for RM80. (btw... which block are u located?)

i dun think he will rent out

[totoro]

i dun think he will rent out

uhh... why's that? :eek: :confused: :p

[exiled_criminal]

uhh... why's that? :eek: :confused: :p

I believe demand more than supply....RM 150

[Tarantula]

CF.. oh CF... where are you?...

[alexcttan]

what is the point of having the key but can't do anything??!!!

[totoro]

what is the point of having the key but can't do anything??!!!

can mop d floor, repaint and move furniture in? =]

[Tarantula]

yeah totoro... u are right..

CF will grant us to stay there.. without CF we can sweep the floor, mop the floor, move in your furniture, may be change the lock.. heheheheheh..

good idea ehh.. never thought of that...

[exiled_criminal]

Hi I go for 2nd inspection tomorrow. I am sure SMi must have left some items unfinish. What can i do about that? But If I reject them, I think they will need to hold my keys again for another month.

[Tarantula]

make sure they rectify all the major defects.. minor2 one, can close one eye laa... what to do.. otherwise, will be late also

[exiled_criminal]

make sure they rectify all the major defects.. minor2 one, can close one eye laa... what to do.. otherwise, will be late also

can i not sign the form but still take the keys?

[totoro]

can i not sign the form but still take the keys?

hmm... theft?

and... then how will they be able to fix your defects?

[exiled_criminal]

hmm... theft?

and... then how will they be able to fix your defects?

then i think i won't sign...ZERO TOLERANCE FOR DEFECTS

[totoro]

then i think i won't sign...ZERO TOLERANCE FOR DEFECTS

You can fix yourself and bill it to the developer.

Anyway, you have 18 months warranty.

[C&E]

SMI called us for second inspection.
Hope CF will follows soon....

[alexcttan]

Nope...just called SMI....CF won't be ready until mid April !!!!
Can we do something about it ???!!!

[C&E]

Nope...just called SMI....CF won't be ready until mid April !!!!
Can we do something about it ???!!!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

oh man, this is too much......... :mad:

[Tarantula]

erkkk really?????

[SHiGE]

My worst fear finally arrived.........

[C&E]

Just to check: is it a good idea if we (the owners) write to MPPJ to seek for clarification?

[exiled_criminal]

Nope...just called SMI....CF won't be ready until mid April !!!!
Can we do something about it ???!!!

Just got back from the 2nd inspection. The guy called Richard told me this morning CF will be out either end of March or early April....Now I am :confused: .

SMI should be responsible on any statements that they made but not simply say something just to please the buyers. Or its the ignorantstupid act of the clerks of SMI sales office again?

We should find the Project Manager and his words should be final and meanwhile we double check with MPPJ.

[C&E]

We should find the Project Manager and his words should be final and meanwhile we double check with MPPJ.

Agreed.
Do we know who is the Project Manager? and how we can contact him/her?
Checking with MPPJ should be carried out in what way?
Pls advice.

[exiled_criminal]

dear neighbours,

Please do not hesitate to reject any items that are not properly done in your 2nd inspection. We have until mid of Apr.....I have rejected 5 out of 15 items.

:mad: !@#$^%0&*~

[shel]

dear neighbours,

Please do not hesitate to reject any items that are not properly done in your 2nd inspection. We have until mid of Apr.....I have rejected 5 out of 15 items.

:mad: !@#$^%0&*~


wah... i thought cf supposed to be end of march/ early april... how come now mid of april already? :(

[Pixie]

Getting really upset with SMI about the CF... is there anything we can do???

[nkent]

Getting really upset with SMI about the CF... is there anything we can do???

If it is CF issuance, then it is now lies at MPPJ's hands, not SMI. However, if SMI is sitting on the CF application, then we should be upset with SMI... I don't know where's the 'ball' right now. :confused:

[ciderblue]

I have red the following in fews different article...

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On January 10, 1996, the Cabinet directed all local authorities to issue CF within 14 day of a building having met all structural and legal requirements. This directive followed a joint study by the Ministry of Housing and Local Government and the Malaysian Modernisation and Management Planning Unit (Mampu), which found that many house owners were compelled to wait for indefinite periods for certificates of fitness even though they had been given their keys by the developers.
======================================================

Seems like our condo is having problem to 'MET' the requirement. Please refer to the following links, which cover HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ACT and could tell you why the CF is being delay (section 14).

http://www.hba.org.my/HBA/Speeches/hda_protect.htm

[C&E]

If it is CF issuance, then it is now lies at MPPJ's hands, not SMI. However, if SMI is sitting on the CF application, then we should be upset with SMI... I don't know where's the 'ball' right now. :confused:

When we received SMI's letter on the Vacant Procession, they attached together the Borang E (which is the application for Certificate of Fitness for Occupation), and it was stamped with the receipt stamp on 31/12/04.
Assuming nothing suspicious on the Borang E, then the ball now lies at MPPJ's hands.

[C&E]

Another interesting article: http://www.kpkt.gov.my/artikel/perumahan/eng12.html

Changes were made to the UBBL in 1999. They are as follows:

A CF is not needed for bungalows built separately but the architect needs to issue a certificate of completion and compliance.
For other building, the CF is deemed issued although the relevant local council has not issued it within 14 days after the date the application or Form E has been received.
However, these amendments to the UBBL will only take effect after all states gazette the changes.

[totoro]

From what I understand, the situation with the CF issuance isn't as bad as we think, and we should be getting the CF soon enough. Anyway, it pays to follow up with MPPJ on this, which we will.

The below are some information on reasons for late CF issuance in the past.

Extracted from the article provided earlier:

14.6 In one case at the end of 1993, some 100 house buyers of Bandar Puchong Jaya still could not get their certificates of fitness because the developer had not built an access road as outlined in the development plan. What the developer did in this case was to upgrade an existing temporary access road. [New Straits Times, December 9, 1993.]

Reasons for delay in issuance of CF

14.9 Delay in the issuance of CF had been attributed to several things – e.g. non-completion of drainage and sewerage works and landscaping, non-payment of development charges, unauthorized alterations and failure to clear the site. In one case, the Hulu Langat District Council said it would not issue a certificate of fitness to a condominium project until the developer has satisfied the authorities that it has taken appropriate “Safety measures” for the project. [Utusan Malaysia, August 28, 1995].

14.10 There are also other reasons, which some developers had termed as “irrelevant conditions” being imposed by the local authorities –

(a) requirement of a Bumiputra quota;
(b) developer to maintain sewerage system even after the issuance of certificate of fitness;
(c) developer to grow plants to a certain height; and
(d) developer to carry out landscaping works.

[ciderblue]

How come the following does not happen to us?Or SMI is not as good as other developer?

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A Certificate of Fitness, either temporary or permanent will accompany the letter of Handing Over of Vacant Possession.
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http://www.pjh.com.my/content/buyingguide.htm

[alexcttan]

We can call SMI every minutes, every hour, every day, every week until we get our CF....just called again, SMI said: "Cannot commit anything yet, will call you once it is ready".

For more details: Call SMI 03-7665 8118

[totoro]

Anyone have the paint type, brand and color code for the walls in Block C?

Cheers!

[Da Rat]

Hi Everyone,

I found this forum yesterday. Quickly signed on. Its amazing what you guys have been discussing all these months. Your tips are helpful, the remarks about the Indian clerk from SMI was funny. Janet is her name, I think. Wanted to join in and contribute and learn. Its a real bummer about the CF issue. I've been in my in-laws place, waiting to move in. I really need another car park space and been wondering where to start looking. I am in Block B, second floor type D. Got the keys after inspection last week.
Spoke to Janet on Friday about the CF. She said last week of March. Told me, SMI is one developer who usually get it faster than others, coz of their reputation. We'll see.

[kuanj]

Hi Everyone,

I found this forum yesterday. ...
Welcome Rat. Do come to the 10 April meeting i.e

Kelana Mahkota Condominium Pro Tem Committee
wishes to invite owners to a meeting to discuss the
formation of a Residents’ ASSOCIATION

Time: 10:30 am

Date: Sunday 10 April 2005

Venue: CDC Management Development (M) Sdn Bhd

609 Level 6 Block B Phileo Damansara I

46350 Petaling Jaya (near SMI office)

RSVP: Your kind support is much needed especially in the initial stages

kuanj

[exiled_criminal]

QUOTED from Mohammad Akmal Che Mid Email


Hello all,

I called the MPPJ again but the guy (En Zainuddin) still on leave. He will be back by tomorrow.
I managed to speak to En Rahim one of the ppl there, and asked him abt our CF. He told me that
the CF is ready but SMI havent collect from MPPJ. When I asked, how to confirm, he said, better
reconfirm with En Zainuddin. Hmmm looks like have to wait until tomorrow to get clearer picture...

Regads,

Mohammad Akmal Che Mid

[Iezpossible]

Hi Everyone,

I found this forum yesterday. Quickly signed on. Its amazing what you guys have been discussing all these months. Your tips are helpful, the remarks about the Indian clerk from SMI was funny. Janet is her name, I think. Wanted to join in and contribute and learn. Its a real bummer about the CF issue. I've been in my in-laws place, waiting to move in. I really need another car park space and been wondering where to start looking. I am in Block B, second floor type D. Got the keys after inspection last week.
Spoke to Janet on Friday about the CF. She said last week of March. Told me, SMI is one developer who usually get it faster than others, coz of their reputation. We'll see.

Hi Da Rat,

Welcome to the group. :)

Guys, sorry for not posting any message for quite some time. Just changed job and very busy catching up with the new work.. :o

I have a few questions..do we need to pay some more for the keys? Did SMI call us informing that the keys are available and when can we re-inspect our unit?

Thanks.

Rgds,
Iezpossible

[nkent]

Hi all,
I did my second inspection last Friday, and some of the defects had not been rectified, eg, my main door which was seen with cracks and a small dent, was only re-patched (much to my dismay, as they are not willing to change the door) but not repainted. I returned it to SMI to rectify it again.

There is another concern that I would like to share. As I was leave KM, (i came to inspect the condo with my wife), my wife who drove in another car was driving out the main gate, saw no on-coming car and decide to move to the main road, but all the sudden, a car brakes hard and banged onto my wife's front corner of the car, losing the bumper. The policeman at the station has indicated it's my wife's at fault, and she duly paid the summon.

However, the main point is, it seems that the car has been travelling fast coming from KCP, otherwise my wife would not have missed it. She's a very careful driver.

I would like to suggest that bumps are to be introduced on the stretch of road when approaching our KM as it is a potentially fast slope. Come to think of it, when KM residence move in, the volume of traffic will increase and it would be hazardous. Furthermore, we, as residence have to be firm on our security guards to prevent cars from parking in front of KM, as it blocks the view of on-coming cars.

[alexcttan]

I would like to suggest that bumps are to be introduced on the stretch of road when approaching our KM as it is a potentially fast slope. Come to think of it, when KM residence move in, the volume of traffic will increase and it would be hazardous. Furthermore, we, as residence have to be firm on our security guards to prevent cars from parking in front of KM, as it blocks the view of on-coming cars.[/QUOTE]

Yup....It is quite dangerous there....and I am quite sure there will be a lot of cars parking outside and both side.....

err..... :mad: :mad: Where is the CF??? :mad:

[nkent]

furthermore, not to mention, i foresee that there will be heavy vehicles will be using the wrong side of the road to access Sterling construction area, as these big trucks will have difficulties making U-turn at the far end. This is quite hazardous as well, and something have to be done about the road access!! :mad: :mad:

[totoro]

how about querying MPPJ on the road opening at the entrance to Mahkota, and general road upgrades (to 4-lanes?) in the SS7/26 and 7/19 roads?

The Kelana Center Point mgmt have put up posts all around the U-Turn, making it narrow and difficult for us to do a U-turn without a 3-pointer...

[ciderblue]

Guys, what do you think of this? I saw this on last weekend during my second inspection. :mad:

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/attachment.php?attachmentid=149&stc=1

[duxz]

QUOTED from Mohammad Akmal Che Mid Email


Hello all,

I called the MPPJ again but the guy (En Zainuddin) still on leave. He will be back by tomorrow.
I managed to speak to En Rahim one of the ppl there, and asked him abt our CF. He told me that
the CF is ready but SMI havent collect from MPPJ. When I asked, how to confirm, he said, better
reconfirm with En Zainuddin. Hmmm looks like have to wait until tomorrow to get clearer picture...

Regads,

Mohammad Akmal Che Mid

Wow.... with the CF ready sitting around in MPPJ waiting to be collected and SMI still telling us it is not ready..... hmmmmmmm looks like they are sooooooo dead..... i wonder wat will happen if the whole issue is forwarded to all source of media??? should be a pretty lovely sight huh... gotta compensate all the owners of the unit :D

[totoro]

Guys, what do you think of this? I saw this on last weekend during my second inspection. :mad:

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/attachment.php?attachmentid=149&stc=1

uhhh... wonder who's that... hmm, dun think they are Mahkota owners, and dun think they paid any maintenance fees for our (all 712 owners') property!

[Andryn]

Let us take all the contractors back for questioning :cool: ..... one of the SMI people said "last night i swam in this swimming pool...very nice and the lights are so beautiful"....i guess those contractors are playing "follow the leader" :confused: .... i thought KM residents are suppose to be the first to test the swimming pool. apparently not :confused: ....

i heard that some of the contractors are even staying at some of the units...found 'human dung' lying on my second bedroom floor :mad: . this shows how laid back the developer is. someone should do something about this :eek: ....

[exiled_criminal]

..found 'human dung' lying on my second bedroom floor :mad: . ....

:eek: :eek: :D :D

[totoro]

i heard that some of the contractors are even staying at some of the units...found 'human dung' lying on my second bedroom floor :mad:

I had s*it in both my toilets, but seems like d workers, when spending long hours doing their work, had no other choice as the only common toilet is quite far away. Hmm, but the floor... and never flushing... :rolleyes:

[HUHHH???]

This is quite unacceptable! Is that why we are not given the CF yet? I went to my unit again last saturday and found that someone's been using the toilet!! :mad:

I found new defects but they would not let me add to the old list. They insisted that I wait until I'm being called for the second inspection. :confused: but they haven't even completed the first list...

Anyone sent the photo to SMI?

[totoro]

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/3/22/nation/10479266&sec=nation

Professional bodies to issue certificate replacing CF

KUALA LUMPUR: Local authorities will no longer issue certificates of fitness (CFs) from next year, in a move to speed up the issuance of the document.

Instead the Certificate of Completion and Compliance (CCC), to be issued by professional bodies, will replace the CF.

[Tarantula]

friends,

next time you go for inspection, bring digi-cam lahh... you can take any pictures that can be used as an evidence that our property is abused by other party like contractors, security or even outsiders..

[ciderblue]

uhhh... wonder who's that... hmm, dun think they are Mahkota owners, and dun think they paid any maintenance fees for our (all 712 owners') property!

THEY ARE KM OWNER's KIDS! Not to say they are not allow to swim, but please swim with proper costume and not with Jeans and T-Shirt!!! So dirty ler...

[Tarantula]

Friends,

Phewwwww... at last... i managed to speak to En Zainuddin from MPPJ...

According to him.. CF has been released some time in Feb 05... and SMI can release the CF to us unless they hold it for some reason e.g. to allow the contractors to fix everything. He said, some developers might hold the CF because they want to make sure everything is fixed before purchasers start to move in.. otherwise, headache with all the complaints..

He added, the CF should be fast if the developer comply to all the procedures and during inspection at KM, they have inspected the public area like corridor, staircase, emergency exit, lanscaping etc etc. However, they only do random checking on individual unit and leave it to purchaser to log a complaint.

His colleague who did the inspection found out the no major non-compliance at KM and SMI has rectified that. Further to that, MPPJ has issued the CF in Feb 05.

All the above statement are quoted from En Zainuddin. I hope he is being honest in his statement.

Regards,
Tarantula..

[Tarantula]

so, who wants to volunteer to call SMI and ask abt the status of the CF?
You can quote my posting above.. need to push them a bit laahh, otherwise, pity those people who are waiting.. waiting.. waiting...

[alexcttan]

Called SMI 10 mins ago...but she said " Have to check with Kumpulan Seni Reka, the architect." - 7665 8118

Called the architect 5 mins ago....yup, the CF is with them, but they need to verify it first. - 2693 6688

Conclusion: Still have to wait for the CF at least until end of this month !!!! :mad:

[exiled_criminal]

Called the architect 5 mins ago....yup, the CF is with them, but they need to verify it first. - 2693 6688

:mad:

Verify what? if the CF is real or fake? :confused:

[Tarantula]

huh... now only we get the real picture the status of our CF... very disappointing...

[alexcttan]

Finally speak to the correct person....the architect in-charge.

According to him, the CF is still with MPPJ.

CF been to the world one round and came back to square one !!!!

[Tarantula]

aikkk how come MPPJ said, they have released it?...

[totoro]

aikkk how come MPPJ said, they have released it?...

I think what this means is that the CF has been released by MPPJ, but that SMI has not collected it as they are probably still fixing the defects reported by the owners?

[Da Rat]

Hey Future Neighbours,
Here's who you can call to collect your application forms for management approval of renovation or other work. Tot we should get this ready, so that when the elusive CF is issued, we can start work staright away. I spoke to a Mr Bala a few minutes ago. He will not fax it over, so I got to go get it. Another inconvenience.....
His number is 012 6080 977.

[C&E]

Hey Future Neighbours,
Here's who you can call to collect your application forms for management approval of renovation or other work. Tot we should get this ready, so that when the elusive CF is issued, we can start work staright away. I spoke to a Mr Bala a few minutes ago. He will not fax it over, so I got to go get it. Another inconvenience.....
His number is 012 6080 977.

Its also available in our Rules & Regulations Handbook.

[Da Rat]

Its also available in our Rules & Regulations Handbook.

Oh...I didn't get my R&R handbook. Thanks

[chinmin]

Hi guys/gals,

CF, CF, CF Where the F#CK are you? Excuse Me for my language but this is getting out of hand.

If the CF is ready and SMI has not collected it yet, to me it means SMI is totally at fault. They have been telling LIES to all of us all this while. Either that or they think all the KM buyers are idiots. I suggest we send a lawyer letter to them and ask them for compensation. Currently I am renting a place and also paying full instalment for the KM loan. Is this fair? If everything was according to plan we all would be happily staying there now. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[exiled_criminal]

Hi guys/gals,

CF, CF, CF Where the F#CK are you? Excuse Me for my language but this is getting out of hand.

If the CF is ready and SMI has not collected it yet, to me it means SMI is totally at fault. They have been telling LIES to all of us all this while. Either that or they think all the KM buyers are idiots. I suggest we send a lawyer letter to them and ask them for compensation. Currently I am renting a place and also paying full instalment for the KM loan. Is this fair? If everything was according to plan we all would be happily staying there now. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I am pretty sure CF is with SMI as KM has electric supply already. SMI concern is the defect list of all the units. Before all of us sign off, SMI will not simply release the CF. Who's fault it is? Now lets pressure SMI and ask for the Project Manager instead of the Indian or Malay lady when we call. BUG them until they let go.

[alexcttan]

Ya....we need to call them everyday, take turn to call !!!! 03-7665 8118

Call them until they cannot tahan !!! hehe !!!

I checked the letter SMI sent me and I don't see any form E or any sort that shows me they have sent anything to MPPJ for CF....any of you has it???

[C&E]

I checked the letter SMI sent me and I don't see any form E or any sort that shows me they have sent anything to MPPJ for CF....any of you has it???

Yeap, we have a copy of the form E.
It was stamped "received" by MPPJ on 30-Dec-2004.
The copy of the form was attached together with SMI's letter on our VP.

[alexcttan]

We suppose to get the CF one month after MPPJ received the form E right??

So now, can we ask SMI to pay for late delivery??

[anastasea]

We suppose to get the CF one month after MPPJ received the form E right??

So now, can we ask SMI to pay for late delivery??

I think SMI try to hide something from us. Maybe we can hire a lawyer to sue them. Or maybe we can threaten by writing a complaint to the press and it will give bad reputation to them. Furthermore they cannot sell the sterling if we really take action on them.

[cordy]

Dear neighbours,

Hi all. It had been some time since I last posted up in here. Had been preoccupied lately by other things, so much so we have still not yet finalised the reno issue. Had been put temporary on hold as we have an urgent matter to settle. I would try to follow up what's happening here whenever I'd the time.

Reason why I'm posting here is becoz I wanted to mention concerning my 2nd re-inspection yesterday. Most of the defects had been rectified. Pleased to notice that but my entrance door suddenly got a scratch mark ( quite obvious) above the lock facing towards the living hall. The WC in my master bedroom's toilet was leaking. It was definitely not leaking before.

For those who had read I even included the cigarette butts inside my toilet in my first complain? Guess what? There are none now! They did clear it up. But then, still find another 2 cigarette butts outside my yard. This time I didn't include that in my complaints form.

Plus, I emphasised this again...the 57" in height where the tiles are concerned in the kitchen. More ppl shld put that in their complain form esp after measuring the height of their kitchen tiles. Otherwise, the management ppl would conveniently ignore this fact. This is a serious matter. False advertising, false misrepresentation in the brochure. It is partly the brochures which entice us to buy the property, rite? Any one of you still keep the old brochures on KM?

Altho yesterday we forgot to bring our measuing tape, but me being at 5' is a good indicative of the kitchen tiles height when I stood next to it. And yes, the tiles are really shorter than I am. Finally, my short stature comes in handy now! :p

Becoz according to the brochure, we are to have 5' in height where the kitchen is concerned. When we mentioned this point again in the complaints form, the SMI rep kinda laughed and said....3 inches also want to calculate.

That was when I pointed out to him, *nicely* that it is not that we want to be calculative. They started first by being calculative where late payment matters are concerned. Late for only one day or two, charge interest & hold us at ransom that until we settle the interest payments, only then would they release the key to us. Boy, was he quiet when he hears that. ( Fyi, we were lucky that we did not incur late interest payment. Still, am sore for you guys who have to pay this)

have to go now. Hope ur second re-inspection would be better than mine. I will be having a 3rd re-inspection in 3 or 4 weeks' time. Altho stated that verbally, still wondering how long would I wait this time. ( I think I waited as long as almost 6 weeks for my 2nd re-inspection)

Rgds,

Cordy

[nkent]

We suppose to get the CF one month after MPPJ received the form E right??

So now, can we ask SMI to pay for late delivery??

Technically, SMI did not deliver late, as the Vacant Possession has been already given to the buyers.

CF issuance has to be worked out between the developer, local authority and the architect. Unfortunately, the case that we, as buyers are the end-user who are affected and have to bear with it. Some housing projects' CF issuance have delays of more than 3-5 years. In our case, we can see that most of the essential things are already in place, water supply, power supply and also sewerage (as some of our fellow buyers seen that their units have already got the toilets in use, and the toilets in the KM's SMI office are usable) and comply to the local authority's expectations. (Even MPPJ has said that they have release the CF)

I think (and hope!) it is the matter of some final paperwork to be made. After all, SMI have been consistently telling us that the CF will be out on end-March, unlike a month ago, where they kept on "moving its target"
Let us wait until end-March before we discuss our next cause of actions. We don't want to (and hopefully won't have to) strain our relationship with the developer, right?

[duxz]

Just called up those dumb ass punks in SMI this morning, and was told CF by end April. When mentioned to her that most of us know that the CF is ready since Febuary 5th..... she just kept quite.

Would really appreciate it if anyone of you can get a photocopy of the CF which is sitting in MPPJ offce. I am gonna attached a copy of the CF and launch a complain to all source of media so that they can look into it and get a firm answer on whos wrong and whos right.

Things are really getting outta hand and looks like they are taking us for granted and lying to us while putting the blame on MPPJ for the delay of CF. :mad:

[shel]

Just called up those dumb ass punks in SMI this morning, and was told CF by end April. When mentioned to her that most of us know that the CF is ready since Febuary 5th..... she just kept quite.

Would really appreciate it if anyone of you can get a photocopy of the CF which is sitting in MPPJ offce. I am gonna attached a copy of the CF and launch a complain to all source of media so that they can look into it and get a firm answer on whos wrong and whos right.

Things are really getting outta hand and looks like they are taking us for granted and lying to us while putting the blame on MPPJ for the delay of CF. :mad:

I called SMI before lunch today and accroding to them, we will be getting CF only in April instead end of March. This is really way too much!!!!! I dont understand why they are sitting on the CF! :mad:

[exiled_criminal]

I called SMI before lunch today and accroding to them, we will be getting CF only in April instead end of March. This is really way too much!!!!! I dont understand why they are sitting on the CF! :mad:

If SMI dun give reasonable explaination, this issue need to be escalated.

[SHiGE]

End of April???? You got to be kidding me...... I still can tolerate until end of March but end of April is definately too much... :mad:

[alexcttan]

End of April???? You got to be kidding me...... I still can tolerate until end of March but end of April is definately too much... :mad:

What???!!!! End of April ???!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[C&E]

Seahorse (one of KM owners) just called up KM's resident engineer Mr Lee.
According to her, Mr Lee said: "it will be by the end of March or first week of April. Guaranteed!"

"Guaranteed"??? Hem...... :cool:

Also, got a call from one of the panel contractors. he said he talked to SMI management, and it will be by the end of March. :cool:


-end of report-

[totoro]

Seahorse (one of KM owners) just called up KM's resident engineer Mr Lee.
According to her, Mr Lee said: "it will be by the end of March or first week of April. Guaranteed!"

"Guaranteed"??? Hem...... :cool:

Also, got a call from one of the panel contractors. he said he talked to SMI management, and it will be by the end of March. :cool:


-end of report-

Hi guys,

Feedback I get from SMI is also the same. Let's not overreact for now. What I can gather from SMI is that we will be able to move into Mahkota VERY VERY SOON now.

Just a little bit more patience, guys and gals.

[ciderblue]

Seahorse (one of KM owners) just called up KM's resident engineer Mr Lee.
According to her, Mr Lee said: "it will be by the end of March or first week of April. Guaranteed!"

"Guaranteed"??? Hem...... :cool:

Also, got a call from one of the panel contractors. he said he talked to SMI management, and it will be by the end of March. :cool:


-end of report-


Yes, I heard the same things! Guys, let's PRAY HARD!

[anastasea]

Yeap, we have a copy of the form E.
It was stamped "received" by MPPJ on 30-Dec-2004.
The copy of the form was attached together with SMI's letter on our VP.
Just called MPPJ to get some info from them. According to MPPJ's people, we can definitely get CF after 14 days of receiving the form E.

[Andryn]

Dear all,

i called SMI this afternoon and Ms. Key confirmed that we should be getting our CF next week...Monday or Tuesday!..

[chinmin]

Hi guys,

Feedback I get from SMI is also the same. Let's not overreact for now. What I can gather from SMI is that we will be able to move into Mahkota VERY VERY SOON now.

Just a little bit more patience, guys and gals.
Totoro,
Don't you think we are patient? We were waiting since January this year.
But....when the bank pays SMI late by one day, SMI charges us the interest. Do you think that this is fair? Now I wanna charge SMI interest for late delivery also. Can I do that?

[Andryn]

KM Contractors called us today and she also mentioned that we should be getting the CF by next week.

[Tarantula]

if its true that the CF will be released by next week, then just pray that it will come true and at the same time, continue to call SMI everyday, every minutes to ask the the CF..

lets wait for another few more days.. give them until tuesday or wednesday next week, and see what will happen..

if the CF is released, then we can continue to another agenda which is to get involvement of all residents in the committee... lets have one voice on this..

regards..

[duxz]

Totoro,
Don't you think we are patient? We were waiting since January this year.
But....when the bank pays SMI late by one day, SMI charges us the interest. Do you think that this is fair? Now I wanna charge SMI interest for late delivery also. Can I do that?

yeah... i support totoro's statement strongly, those SMI clowns charge me for late interest when its not even my fault... so do i get to charge them on a weekly basis for late delivery of the unit? lets say.... RM5000 on weekly basis on the late delivery????

[totoro]

yeah... i support totoro's statement strongly, those SMI clowns charge me for late interest when its not even my fault... so do i get to charge them on a weekly basis for late delivery of the unit? lets say.... RM5000 on weekly basis on the late delivery????

ehm, you mean u support chinmin's statement strongly... :p

[exiled_criminal]

No news is good news

[totoro]

No news is good news

oohh, fun with words, the above means:

all news are bad news? :o
or
absense of news is good news in itself? :D

If all goes well, we're moving into Mahkota next weekend! *happy dance*

[Tarantula]

sure mehh? can move in next weekend? :rolleyes:

i wanna come and try the pool first... :D

[exiled_criminal]

sure mehh? can move in next weekend? :rolleyes:

i wanna come and try the pool first... :D

first need to fix grill....install air con then can move in if desperate

[Andryn]

first need to fix grill....install air con then can move in if desperate

did you get any quotation for the grille? how much to install the grille? i mean, did you get any quotation from outside? let me know if you get the cheaper price for the grille.

thanks! :o

[tfleong]

I got RM 1950 for A, C and D. For type B drill through is RM 2300. That's for unit Type D, all in.

[exiled_criminal]

I got RM 1950 for A, C and D. For type B drill through is RM 2300. That's for unit Type D, all in.

hmm, i am not sure what type of material for your quote. Looks like its stainless steel. The in house contractor quoted me around Rm1000 for main entrance, yard and the study room for type C.

[Psalm91]

Greetings Neighbours!

Have a few questions to ask :-

1. Anyone here planning to change the main entrance door ? If yes, have
you gotten any quotes for it ?

2. Are we allowed to re-paint the main ent door to another color ?

3. I plan to hack the two small dividing walls at the "staircase" & have been given a (verbal) quote of RM500.00 by one of the panel. This includes broadening the stair-case & retiling. Has anyone got a quote for this ?

Hope you all don't mind sharing quotes...

:) :)

[totoro]

Quotations:

Grilles - Type C: Front Door and Yard - RM880 (So the grilles in the study room is only RM120?)

Hacking half-walls at split-level + kitchen = RM800

Type C: Study room door + frame = RM400, excluding paint

[shel]

Greetings Neighbours!

Have a few questions to ask :-

1. Anyone here planning to change the main entrance door ? If yes, have
you gotten any quotes for it ?

2. Are we allowed to re-paint the main ent door to another color ?

3. I plan to hack the two small dividing walls at the "staircase" & have been given a (verbal) quote of RM500.00 by one of the panel. This includes broadening the stair-case & retiling. Has anyone got a quote for this ?

Hope you all don't mind sharing quotes...

:) :)

are we allowed to hack the small wall at the staircase? do we need to write-in or something to get an approval?

[totoro]

are we allowed to hack the small wall at the staircase? do we need to write-in or something to get an approval?

Seems like owners are requesting it (because the showroom is also hacked), and the contractors have standard quotes for that work already, but... would u want your dining area to be there and use the other space as a foyer?

[fifa76]

I got RM 1950 for A, C and D. For type B drill through is RM 2300. That's for unit Type D, all in.

Do you have contact no for the gril ? my quotation from the panel contractor is higher.

[shel]

Seems like owners are requesting it (because the showroom is also hacked), and the contractors have standard quotes for that work already, but... would u want your dining area to be there and use the other space as a foyer?

if its possible... definitely. but, i thought we have to submit some kinda form for approval?

[Da Rat]

Do you have contact no for the gril ? my quotation from the panel contractor is higher.

Hi, I got a quote two weeks ago for grills for backyard, front door, balcony and the three room windows, type B (drill through) at RM1800 from a panel contractor. Her name is Grace, Tel: 016 228 2146.
Breaking the divider walls :RM450
Extend staircase and add timber step like the show unit at RM500.

[totoro]

Hi, I got a quote two weeks ago for grills for backyard, front door, balcony and the three room windows, type B (drill through) at RM1800 from a panel contractor. Her name is Grace, Tel: 016 228 2146.
Breaking the divider walls :RM450
Extend staircase and add timber step like the show unit at RM500.

So total is RM950?

[fifa76]

Hi, I got a quote two weeks ago for grills for backyard, front door, balcony and the three room windows, type B (drill through) at RM1800 from a panel contractor. Her name is Grace, Tel: 016 228 2146.
Breaking the divider walls :RM450
Extend staircase and add timber step like the show unit at RM500.


wow seems like different panel contract have different pricing.
my quotation for backyard, front door, balcony and the three room windows is 2400++. My unit is type D.

[tfleong]

Grill, quoted by panel contractor:

Main door (5 1/2' x 10')
Master room window (6' x 4')
Room 2 window (6' x 4')
Family Room window (4' x 4')
Yard (10' x 4 1/2')
Bath 1 (2' x 4')
Balcony (10' x 7')

In total : Type A - RM 2085, Type B - RM 2405, Type C - RM 2020
Type D - RM 2105

All prices are for 6" steel.


This is what I got from Grace also. How come it's so much different, coming from the same person.

[Da Rat]

So total is RM950?


Yep, total RM950.
I managed to compare the price to a non-panel contractor. His price is RM600 for the demolition and extending the staircase and the timber step at RM200. Total RM800. I have not seen the type of timber being used from both contractors. It should be presentable enough I think. But I will check it first before I commit.

[Da Rat]

This is what I got from Grace also. How come it's so much different, coming from the same person.

Yeah, seems funny. I am seeing her this Saturday to reconfirm. Will let you know if she revised it.
I wonder if she hid the cost in some other jobs I asked her to do. I asked for some extra power points, Aircond and water heaters installation with concealed wiring, cornices for the living hall and family room and some plumbing work. Maybe....

[tfleong]

Do you have contact no for the gril ? my quotation from the panel contractor is higher.
Any of you who want to look at another contractor for the grill, can contact Mr Chong @ 012 288 9050
Say that you're introduced by Leong
He's my neighbour's friend.

[Tarantula]

tfleong,

is he giving good price? i may consider..

[C&E]

Just did our second inspection. All done, except a few minor things. So we took the keys, with one eye closed..... :o

Then talked to Mr Bala, the management office manager, abt the grill. And yes, we can have our own design for the grill, just that the grills for windows have to be installed inside. In other words, grills for sliding door are allowed to be installed outside the sliding door. :)

Also, the deposit for renovation is fixed at RM1000 and RM3000, depending on your renovation. For my case, although its nothing major (plaster ceiling, wiring, air-cond piping, kit-cab, not hacking of walls) Mr Bala said it will be RM3000. :( I wonder what kinda of renovation would be for RM1k of deposit?

Then, we HAVE to rent a rubbish container from the management during the period of our renovation, which is charged at RM100 per week. :mad:

So its $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!

and ah, btw, all of them said the CF will b ready by next week. :cool:

Keeping my fingers crossed.....

[exiled_criminal]

Also, the deposit for renovation is fixed at RM1000 and RM3000, depending on your renovation. For my case, although its nothing major (plaster ceiling, wiring, air-cond piping, kit-cab, not hacking of walls) Mr Bala said it will be RM3000. :( I wonder what kinda of renovation would be for RM1k of deposit?

did he mentioned how soon SMI can refund the deposit to us? if it is not the S&P should we pay?

[shel]

Just did our second inspection. All done, except a few minor things. So we took the keys, with one eye closed..... :o

Then talked to Mr Bala, the management office manager, abt the grill. And yes, we can have our own design for the grill, just that the grills for windows have to be installed inside. In other words, grills for sliding door are allowed to be installed outside the sliding door. :)

Also, the deposit for renovation is fixed at RM1000 and RM3000, depending on your renovation. For my case, although its nothing major (plaster ceiling, wiring, air-cond piping, kit-cab, not hacking of walls) Mr Bala said it will be RM3000. :( I wonder what kinda of renovation would be for RM1k of deposit?

Then, we HAVE to rent a rubbish container from the management during the period of our renovation, which is charged at RM100 per week. :mad:

So its $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!

and ah, btw, all of them said the CF will b ready by next week. :cool:

Keeping my fingers crossed.....


What if we are doing all of the things on different days? Like this means we have to pay RM 100 each time we do something?

[totoro]

i guess they are 'encouraging' us to stick to panel contractors. that way don't have to rent those bins.

[tfleong]

tfleong,

is he giving good price? i may consider..
So far it's cheaper than the panel. I think if we get a few more then we can negotiate with him, instead of letting those panel contractor giving us fix price even though we all were to ask them to do it.

[C&E]

i guess they are 'encouraging' us to stick to panel contractors. that way don't have to rent those bins.

BINGO! :cool:

[arafie]

I would like to Hi to all of you in this forum. Been checking out this forum for quite sometime now...wonderful information and comments. Just got my key the other day for my apartment. just wondering how many of u guys out there are in block B type D. And dont u notice that the master bedroom is a bit small compared to the showroom. any comments?

[totoro]

Tarantula,

So have you find out about the StreamyX availability.... I really hope we have it right after we move in... I have been living without broadband ever since I move into Lagoon Perdana Apt at Bandar Sunway.. waited for 1 yr also don't have because of fibre line...

Erm, Mr Tarantula... so, does Mahkota have lines ready to be connected to Telekom when we move in? Also, does their fibre lines accept Streamyx? I read that some lines can work with Streamyx, but need to check.

[PJS]

totoro

I notice you are looking for National Bayu fan, have u bought it? If not I got a used unit 4 blade remote control Bayu fan for sale. It's only been used for a couple years and looks brand new, took it off coz we got a bunk bed for the kid's room and have to remove the ceiling fan.

Also got a like new front loading washing machine for a good price.

call me if interested: 019-2810611, thanks

[thcck0315]

good morning to all KM owner :)
This is my first post,I bought the unit in block C type D,inspected last week and still waiting for them to cal me for 2nd inspection.

Anyone want to let go their car park as I 'm looking for extra one.

I will have a meeting with my contractor today afternoon to get the quotation for my renovation,after that will post here to compare the pricing.

[kuanj]

good morning to all KM owner :)
This is my first post,I bought the unit in block C type D,inspected last week and still waiting for them to cal me for 2nd inspection.......


Welcome thcck0315 to our forum. Do come to the 10 April meeting i.e

Kelana Mahkota Condominium Pro Tem Committee
wishes to invite owners to a meeting to discuss the
formation of a Residents’ ASSOCIATION

Time: 10:30 am

Date: Sunday 10 April 2005

Venue: CDC Management Development (M) Sdn Bhd

609 Level 6 Block B Phileo Damansara I

46350 Petaling Jaya (near SMI office)

RSVP: Your kind support is much needed especially in the initial stages

kuanj

[Andryn]

totoro

I notice you are looking for National Bayu fan, have u bought it? If not I got a used unit 4 blade remote control Bayu fan for sale. It's only been used for a couple years and looks brand new, took it off coz we got a bunk bed for the kid's room and have to remove the ceiling fan.

Also got a like new front loading washing machine for a good price.

call me if interested: 019-2810611, thanks


hi!

we're interested with your ceiling fan. if its still available..how much are you selling? you can call me 012-9359178.

thanks

[totoro]

hi!

we're interested with your ceiling fan. if its still available..how much are you selling? you can call me 012-9359178.

thanks

Taken by Totoro d... :D

[Andryn]

Taken by Totoro d... :D


aikkk....! so fash ahh.... by the way we went to our unit today and 90% of the defects already done. how about yours? if CF coming next week, are u shifting soon?

[totoro]

aikkk....! so fash ahh.... by the way we went to our unit today and 90% of the defects already done. how about yours? if CF coming next week, are u shifting soon?

I picked up my keys d, but they had to patch up some more new cracks that are showing in the exteriors, and some are at outside the yard and study room, so I left a key with them to repaint over those patches later.

I also noticed the same cracks are showing in the units across from mine. Hmm...

I was wondering. If MPPJ issued the CF on Feb 5, doesn't that mean we can legally move in anytime now? Do the developer have the power to stop us from doing so? :P

I plan to move in as soon as I get grilles, lights and air-conditioners fixed up.

[Andryn]

hi! we still need to do the additional power points and lighting. it takes a week plus to do that. moreover, we still gotto wait for the approval first from the management and again its going to take another a week for that. :mad:

heemmm...if we can get the CF by next week then we should be able to shift in only on the 3rd or 4th week of april. however, i hope that the management is not going to be slow this time. if we really wanna shift into our condo i dont think that management can do anything about it... :cool:

are u going to take the panel contractor to do your grille plus some other wiring? we might be taking them for the grille and the wiring as well. i wonder how much are they charging you for that.

while the kitchen cabinet and installation for the lightings & fans are from our outside contractors. for my kitchen cabinets and installation of lightings & fans can be done by one day.

[totoro]

hi! we still need to do the additional power points and lighting. it takes a week plus to do that. moreover, we still gotto wait for the approval first from the management and again its going to take another a week for that. :mad:

heemmm...if we can get the CF by next week then we should be able to shift in only on the 3rd or 4th week of april. however, i hope that the management is not going to be slow this time. if we really wanna shift into our condo i dont think that management can do anything about it... :cool:

are u going to take the panel contractor to do your grille plus some other wiring? we might be taking them for the grille and the wiring as well. i wonder how much are they charging you for that.

while the kitchen cabinet and installation for the lightings & fans are from our outside contractors. for my kitchen cabinets and installation of lightings & fans can be done by one day.

For me, grilles for front entrance and yard for type C was quoted at RM880.

I already upgraded to three-phase wiring... and I have 6 air-con points. I am still considering plaster ceilings, basically to put downlights. I don't know any good shops for those.

I have a feeling I am being overcharged for items I do not know much about. My friends tell me I can get a normal plywood door for RM50. I was quoted RM120 for that here.

[ellyf]

I picked up my keys d, but they had to patch up some more new cracks that are showing in the exteriors, and some are at outside the yard and study room, so I left a key with them to repaint over those patches later.

I also noticed the same cracks are showing in the units across from mine. Hmm...

I was wondering. If MPPJ issued the CF on Feb 5, doesn't that mean we can legally move in anytime now? Do the developer have the power to stop us from doing so? :P

I plan to move in as soon as I get grilles, lights and air-conditioners fixed up.

There were also cracks on the wall at my unit's yard.
Yesterday went for 3rd inspection, they had repainted it but i guess it will resurface again anyhow.

Just wondering, is there also someone guarding the lift at Block B & C?
I'm from Block A, and there is currently a Vietnamese guy guarding the lift, pressing the buttons for us.

Yesterday dad and I were in the lift. Also in the lift was another lady who was also going to inspect her unit (and she was alone).
The Vietnamese guy told the lady in Chinese - "You are very pretty".
The lady kept quiet, pretended not to hear...
That guy subsequently asked my dad and that lady our respective unit numbers. To which of course, my dad and that lady pretended not to understand Chinese.

Sometimes this may seem petty but it can be quite dangerous and scary. Anything can happen...could rob, rape etc.

We should be mindful of security, esp for women when they are alone (men not excluded lah....). Not only for now...but also after we move in.. Furthermore, there will still be many foreign workers when construction for Sterling@PJ begins.

Let's remind ourselves to be very alert and careful.

[kuanj]

Dear All,

The Manager of Samudra Property Management Sdn Bhd who is managing KMC, requested me to inform all KMC owners who are moving in to MK (after CF issue) are required to fill up the above form G and submit it 3 days in advance to facilitate clearance at the guard house.This form is attached (.pdf)
More details can be obtained at Management Office in KMC.

kuanj

[totoro]

Dear All,

The Manager of Samudra Property Management Sdn Bhd who is managing KMC, requested me to inform all KMC owners who are moving in to MK (after CF issue) are required to fill up the above form G and submit it 3 days in advance to facilitate clearance at the guard house.This form is attached (.pdf)
More details can be obtained at Management Office in KMC.

kuanj

Hi Kuan,

Thanks for this info. I wasn't aware that the management office will be run by Samudra Property Mgmt. How did they get in touch with you?

[kuanj]

:D Hi Kuan,

Thanks for this info. I wasn't aware that the management office will be run by Samudra Property Mgmt. How did they get in touch with you?

Totoro,

I came to know Samudra when I requested SMI Management for hosting two banners (calling 10 April Meeting) at KMC. This request was rejected.

kuanj

[totoro]

Taken by Totoro d... :D

Hmm, looks like the owner's wife is refusing to sell the (KDK) fan d, so it's back to Panasonic for me.

the Malaysian Alpha products are really pushing hard to brand themselves, and also offer 10 years warranty on their products, but I wonder if the 10 yr warranty is enough to make me switch from a trusted brand to a local upstart.

[V&C]

There were also cracks on the wall at my unit's yard.


Dear All,

Now is the raining season. Please check your units after the rain. I've checked my unit last saturday and found out that my study room got water on the floor :confused: where the water coming from ??? :confused: . Actually there are cracks at the external wall on my unit, water just come in after heavy rain. I believe the unit below me & above me also encounter the same problem.... :( (B-13-11 & B-15-11)

Regards,
V&C

[SHiGE]

good morning to all KM owner :)
This is my first post,I bought the unit in block C type D,inspected last week and still waiting for them to cal me for 2nd inspection.

Anyone want to let go their car park as I 'm looking for extra one.

I will have a meeting with my contractor today afternoon to get the quotation for my renovation,after that will post here to compare the pricing.
Welcome...

Man you just did your first inspection on 28 Mar??? Add one month for the 2nd inspection. Meaning the rectification will only be completed at end of April. Then our CF will be .............

[totoro]

Dear All,

Now is the raining season. Please check your units after the rain. I've checked my unit last saturday and found out that my study room got water on the floor :confused: where the water coming from ??? :confused: . Actually there are cracks at the external wall on my unit, water just came in after heavy rain. I believe the unit below me & above me also encounter the same problem.... :( (B-13-11 & B-15-11)

Regards,
V&C

My fren's new DSL house was also leaking through the ceiling... The contractor says some other houses also facing the same problem. It's not a cheap house either, so I guess Malaysians have just gotta live with leaking roofs.

[V&C]

My fren's new DSL house was also leaking through the ceiling... The contractor says some other houses also facing the same problem. It's not a cheap house either, so I guess Malaysians have just gotta live with leaking roofs.

:D It is not from the the roof, is from the wall... :rolleyes: :(

[totoro]

:D It is not from the the roof, is from the wall... :rolleyes: :(

did you leave the windows open... ?

if the water leaked through cracks in the wall, then I'd be really worried.

[V&C]

[QUOTE=totoro]I already upgraded to three-phase wiring... and I have 6 air-con points.
QUOTE]

Dear Totoro,

May I know where are you going to put the 6 compressor to ? Please share with us, thanx :)

Regards,
V&C

[totoro]

[QUOTE=totoro]I already upgraded to three-phase wiring... and I have 6 air-con points.
QUOTE]

Dear Totoro,

My I know where are you going to put the 6 compressor to ? Please share with us, thanx :)

Regards,
V&C

I'm not putting 6 units up.

Anyway, the developer allocated 1 for each room, so that's 4 (for Type C). Then, 2 more for living and dining.

The compressors, should go to the yard and balcony, as mentioned before.

[SHiGE]

There were also cracks on the wall at my unit's yard.
Yesterday went for 3rd inspection, they had repainted it but i guess it will resurface again anyhow.

Wow.. third inspection already. May I know how long u waited before you asked for second inspection and third inspection?

I waited 5 weeks for my second inspection, and now already waited 4 weeks for my next inspection. I feel like just take the keys and ignore the minor leftover defects, but three are two tiles cracked during my second inspection which I don't think my contractor can solve it for me. Scare they can't find a matching tiles to replace.

[V&C]

did you leave the windows open... ?

if the water leaked through cracks in the wall, then I'd be really worried.

Nope, the window was not opened. I think you better check your unit again... :(

[anastasea]

Just called MPPJ, They said on 21st Jan, CFalready passed to Developer. hmm wonder where the CF goes coz SMI said they dont have it.
They treat us like we are buying a low cost house!!!!! Me and my fren will call Mr. Lee to get explanation why our facilities been used by non resedent.
If you guys read the R & R book, it stated that outsiders are not allowed to use the facilities unless accompany by resident. hmm they can simply break the rules! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[V&C]

Scare they can't find a matching tiles to replace.

Hm... looks like we need to source for all these replacement tiles. I plan to hack some of the kitchen tiles and looking for replacement. Anyone here know where to find it ? (besides from the management / the panel) :rolleyes:

[totoro]

Nope, the window was not opened. I think you better check your unit again... :(

mine should be ok, as i got them to fix up all the cracks in my unit. those outside my units, i didn't mention, but they have patched it up last week.

[V&C]

[QUOTE=totoro]Hmm, looks like the owner's wife is refusing to sell the (KDK) fan d, so it's back to Panasonic for me.
[QUOTE]

Dear All,

My friend just bought some cheap ceiling fan from this shop, "Houses Lighting" Address: No.33, Jalan BPU6, Bandar Puchong Utama. :)

Regards,
V&C

[cordy]

[QUOTE=totoro]Hmm, looks like the owner's wife is refusing to sell the (KDK) fan d, so it's back to Panasonic for me.
[QUOTE]

Dear All,

My friend just bought some cheap ceiling fan from this shop, "Houses Lighting" Address: No.33, Jalan BPU6, Bandar Puchong Utama. :)

Regards,
V&C


Hi neighbours,

Just to let you know what I did during our 3rd re-inspection last saturday. We were truly surprised! Our 2nd re-inspection was on the 22nd & did thought it will take us 2-3 weeks, as stated by the mgmt ppl. Plus the guy did tell us, based on the number of defects stated on the complaint form, would take as long as 2-3 weeks to rectify. We only have 4 issues listed down. His remarks really puzzled us as it is much simpler compared to my earlier list during my first inspection. :confused:

All the probs we mentioned in the complaints form? All rectified! Including the missing 3 inches from the kitchen tiles’ height. Boy, were we surprised. As mentioned earlier, I’m at 5’ft, rite? So the kitchen tiles’ height should be at 5’ft based on the specs. But now it’s way over 5’ft lar. We did thought if again they *ignore* our request, again we would raise this up. Hey, misrepresentation is misrepresentation, right? Plus we have evidence! They can not just push it under da carpet so easily unless they did something about this.

While we were in the mgmt office, I noticed a couple nearby. Thinking I could introduce another owner to this forum, I quickly approached the lady about this. But she told me that her husband did, under the nick of “Da Rat”. All I can say is, wahhh….. Why that? He sure dun look like “ Da Rat” to me becoz he’s sooo huge lar! ( I mean very tall & big sized, not fat) But then, at my height, everyone seems taller than me anyway. :P

Please to meet Da Rat in person with his missus! Hope we bump more into each other later during the Apr 10th meeting. :)There was another lady whom I talked to on da way to the staircase leading to the carpark. We were going to go down, till I can’t help noticing 3 ppl talking, looking inside the renovators’ office, I think. So, I thought to myself, another opportunity to intro a new owner to the forum.

Guess what? Again, the lady told me already a member & proceed to tell me the meeting’s date. Not bad, she remembered it by heart. :) Um, sorre, I forgot your name. We were both ( my hubby and me) in a hurry to another destination at that time. But pleased to meet you and your hubby. Next time, I will try my best to remember your name. See you both too at the meeting. :) Aiseh. Just when I thought I can bring more awareness to our forum/committee. I will try again when I drop by the condo next time.

As for CF status, spoke to a person called Jimmy. He said likely to be end of this month or earliest first week of April. I guess we just have to wait & see.

One more thing to share with my neighbours before I log off. I was made to understand that if we rely on the developer’s panel of contractors, we do not need to pay the renovation deposit. But if we were to rely on contractors not on the panel, we may require to put up RM1000 depo. One owner, it seems have given RM3000 as depo due to extensive renovation in his unit. Whoaaa. Makes me wonder, do other condo/apt have such ruling?? Kinda steep where the reno deposit is concerned.


Rgds,

Cordy

[ciderblue]

Hm... looks like we need to source for all these replacement tiles. I plan to hack some of the kitchen tiles and looking for replacement. Anyone here know where to find it ? (besides from the management / the panel) :rolleyes:

KM Tiles supplier contact number is 019-3310129.

Kitchen
Wall - RM0.80
Floor - RM1.70

Living Room
Floor - RM3.20 (16x16)

Bedroom, Dining & walkway
Floor - RM1.70 (12x12)

Bathroom
Wall - RM0.80
Floor - RM1.70

[Da Rat]

All the probs we mentioned in the complaints form? All rectified! Including the missing 3 inches from the kitchen tiles’ height.

While we were in the mgmt office, I noticed a couple nearby. Thinking I could introduce another owner to this forum, I quickly approached the lady about this. But she told me that her husband did, under the nick of “Da Rat”. All I can say is, wahhh….. Why that? He sure dun look like “ Da Rat” to me becoz he’s sooo huge lar! ( I mean very tall & big sized, not fat) But then, at my height, everyone seems taller than me anyway. :P


Hey, Cordy. It was great meeting you too. Just for the record, I am 6' 3". So, most people look up to me. I should change my nick to something bigger sounding I suppose.

I wanted to sound off a few things after our visit on Saturday. Because it rained heavily on that day, we found two new problems.
1. In our study room, there is water seeping thru the walls. Definately from a crack on the outside.
2. The entire corridor, in front of our unit was flooded from the rain water!
Most of the water came in from the upper unit corridor as their water outlet pipe is broken. So the water just flows easily on to our floor.

I collected my Rules & R book also. They know very well they have not given it to me but dont mind sitting on the matter. Why mention RM500 deposit in that book but RM1000 or RM3000 in the copy of the forms I got from the security/mgmt?
All this info on rubbish bins rent, and ammendments and other important info you guys have told me , shouldn't we be officially informed via mail by SMI or the mgmt. SMI's really taking us for granted that we know all these things. Condo's are not something we buy everyday.

With all that heavy rain also, the car park ceiling in LG1 had several areas gushing with water! The building is not fit yet. If your carpark bay was in that location, you will not be able to use it. So even if the CF is ready this week. The building is not ready. There will be many foreign workers working there for atleast another month or so fixing up the place.

[totoro]

I wanted to sound off a few things after our visit on Saturday. Because it rained heavily on that day, we found two new problems.
1. In our study room, there is water seeping thru the walls. Definately from a crack on the outside.
2. The entire corridor, in front of our unit was flooded from the rain water!
Most of the water came in from the upper unit corridor as their water outlet pipe is broken. So the water just flows easily on to our floor.

I collected my Rules & R book also. They know very well they have not given it to me but dont mind sitting on the matter. Why mention RM500 deposit in that book but RM1000 or RM3000 in the copy of the forms I got from the security/mgmt?
All this info on rubbish bins rent, and ammendments and other important info you guys have told me , shouldn't we be officially informed via mail by SMI or the mgmt. SMI's really taking us for granted that we know all these things. Condo's are not something we buy everyday.

With all that heavy rain also, the car park ceiling in LG1 had several areas gushing with water! The building is not fit yet. If your carpark bay was in that location, you will not be able to use it. So even if the CF is ready this week. The building is not ready. There will be many foreign workers working there for atleast another month or so fixing up the place.

oh man.. i need to go check my unit... as i left the windows open!

i have voiced my concerns regarding water puddles on the floors. if i'm not mistaken there is someone cementing up the uneven floors, but i think we might end up with certain car park lots that will be 'flooded' when it rains heavily. basically wets ur shoes n socks or slippers when you step into the puddle.

I think we need to voice out our objection to the mandatory bin rentals and increase in security deposits.

I understand the mgmt's concerns regarding unprofessional contractors, but even the panel contractors tell me to get outside contractors for certain work because they are quite a bit cheaper!

[SHiGE]

Anyone here have Jimmy handphone number? Anyone in Block C have went for 3rd inspection?

When we have to pay the renovation deposit? Pay now or wait until the renovation is about to start when the CF is out? I'm using outside contractor for my renovation.

Thanks ciderblue for the tiles contact number. Do they sell in small quantities like 3-4 pieces? :p

[totoro]

I understand the mgmt's concerns regarding unprofessional contractors, but even the panel contractors tell me to get outside contractors for certain work because they are quite a bit cheaper!

Lucky! No wet floors!

Erm, about the panel contractors, I am actually contracting a panel contractor for most of my unit's work, even though it looks a bit pricier. It's easier to get help from the panel for other minor work or re-work, and they will be around the area, so it's easy to get in touch for the first year or so, as they will be around for that long.

Besides, they are quite a nice and friendly lot.

[totoro]

Anyone here have Jimmy handphone number? Anyone in Block C have went for 3rd inspection?

When we have to pay the renovation deposit? Pay now or wait until the renovation is about to start when the CF is out? I'm using outside contractor for my renovation.

Thanks ciderblue for the tiles contact number. Do they sell in small quantities like 3-4 pieces? :p

How about the paint brand and color codes for the walls, ceilings, etc?

[ciderblue]

Anyone here have Jimmy handphone number? Anyone in Block C have went for 3rd inspection?

When we have to pay the renovation deposit? Pay now or wait until the renovation is about to start when the CF is out? I'm using outside contractor for my renovation.

Thanks ciderblue for the tiles contact number. Do they sell in small quantities like 3-4 pieces? :p

The tiles supplier said normally the tiles will be sell in carton (i.e the living room tiles will be 12 pcs per carton). He asked me to get my contractor estimate the total tiles I need, then he will quote accordlingly.

My ID frenz advised me to buy extra tiles to keep, else in the future very hard to find.

[alexcttan]

Anyone here have Jimmy handphone number? Anyone in Block C have went for 3rd inspection?

When we have to pay the renovation deposit? Pay now or wait until the renovation is about to start when the CF is out? I'm using outside contractor for my renovation.

Thanks ciderblue for the tiles contact number. Do they sell in small quantities like 3-4 pieces? :p

If you guys get outside contractor to do the renovation, get the contractor to pay the deposit. So that the contractor will look after the public area and facilities. Also, to prevent the contractor from running away !!!

[teen kosong]

Hi totoro,

Which panel contractor are you referring to (which is 'nice and friendly lot')?

Care to intro.. Thanks... :)


Have a shiok day ahead n see you at the RA meeting on 10th April 2005.


Cheers.

[totoro]

Hi totoro,

Which panel contractor are you referring to (which is 'nice and friendly lot')?

Care to intro.. Thanks... :)

Have a shiok day ahead n see you at the RA meeting on 10th April 2005.

Cheers.

Well, from what I understand, the panel contractors are preallocated to you, so that everyone get a fair share, e.g. which block and whether odd or even floors. They also divide the work, as some specialize in some areas. If some work overlap, the lowest bidder gets the contract.

I was told this, as I told the contractor I wanted to introduce another owner to her.

[thcck0315]

Anybody familiar with Euro uno product ? The pricing for ceiling fan and water heater is very competitive and few of my frens are actually asking me to go for it as they said that they are having problem with their so call branded ceiling fan .

Anyone calling SMI today regarding the CF ,I'm really pissed off with the attitute of SMI staff in the office,can't stand the way they talked, :mad:

If MPPJ did release the CF in Jan,then why not we don't get our CF before CNY,is there any law and regulations entiltled us to claim for compensation from SMI for holding up the CF without proper explanation ? :p

[shel]

Anybody familiar with Euro uno product ? The pricing for ceiling fan and water heater is very competitive and few of my frens are actually asking me to go for it as they said that they are having problem with their so call branded ceiling fan .

Anyone calling SMI today regarding the CF ,I'm really pissed off with the attitute of SMI staff in the office,can't stand the way they talked, :mad:

If MPPJ did release the CF in Jan,then why not we don't get our CF before CNY,is there any law and regulations entiltled us to claim for compensation from SMI for holding up the CF without proper explanation ? :p

Yes thcck0315, I agree with you on the attitude of SMI staff. The people working in SMI really get on our nerves! The worst ever person that i've spoken to is the receptionist and the indian lady by the name of UMA! Instead of me scolding them for releasing the CF late, she is the one scolded me back asking me not to call them anymore. She said they will send us a letter to inform us when the CF is released and i don't have to call there to keep on asking them. :mad: The receptionist also another one, forever telling me this fella is engaged, that fella is engaged... i wonder if she ever check before telling me... too much la this ppl!

[marvy]

yesyesyes

i know that everybody got pissed off regarding CF....not only you complaining about SMI Staff. i called to speak to the secratary called cindy tui...she sounded like we are talking to the wall. :eek:

i called my house lawyer - chandran (megat & najmuddin) what he advised us is to write a letter to Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting and cc to Biro Aduan Negara. :mad:

I THINK THIS IS THE FASTEST WAY TO GET THE CF :confused:
ANY ONE know's him well then easier for us to do this... ;)
Me and my friend one of the buyer also will write this letter tomorrow.

i cannot stand them anymore also la.... :mad:
i am from block B.

[marvy]

Uma is not INDIAN Lady, she is Malay lady coz i met her when i made an appointment to inspect the house.

there is three lady in marketing depart. - janet, uma and one chinese girl.

the project manager called Eddy, everytime call forever not in the office.
she refused to give eddy's hp number. this cindy tui sounded so scared to tell us the truth!!!!! :rolleyes:

:mad: no manners...people in SMI, What i think they also get pressured from us la friends...put this way if they dun want us to bug them all the TIME....dun give us this kind of problem :mad:

i am not showing you guys that i am angry...like i said: renting the house and need to pay installment for the new house ...is a big things RIGHT!!!!

MONEY WON'T DROP FROM THE SKY...
Sorry guys i am bit emotional

[V&C]

Anybody familiar with Euro uno product ? The pricing for ceiling fan and water heater is very competitive and few of my frens are actually asking me to go for it as they said that they are having problem with their so call branded ceiling fan .

Anyone calling SMI today regarding the CF ,I'm really pissed off with the attitute of SMI staff in the office,can't stand the way they talked, :mad:

If MPPJ did release the CF in Jan,then why not we don't get our CF before CNY,is there any law and regulations entiltled us to claim for compensation from SMI for holding up the CF without proper explanation ? :p

Hi thcck0315,

I just came back from KM after inspecting my crack wall. They have done the job. They also mention that the CF is will be ready by early April. I saw the rubbish bin has arrived and located just opp of the management office. I strongly believe our CF should be ready soon.

Btw, anybody here from this two units ? (B-13-11 & B-15-11) your study room's windows are not close!! :eek: Because our unit is facing the open ground (facing west) the winds are very strong. When I tried to open the kitchen windows, I can feel the "horrible" wind sound.... :p I don't know what will happen to your unit. Please check it out. (I was in the condo when t rains just now)

I also notice the workers have a very bad habbit. They don't shut the window after they have finish working. Please check your windows and your sliding door. ;)

Regards,
V&C

[V&C]

1. In our study room, there is water seeping thru the walls. Definately from a crack on the outside.


Dear Da Rat,

I also having the same problem. Please chase them to rectify it, else your room will be flooded... :rolleyes: I reported on 26/3 and they have fixed it today. :)

Regards,
V&C

[V&C]

KM Tiles supplier contact number is 019-3310129.

Kitchen
Wall - RM0.80
Floor - RM1.70

Living Room
Floor - RM3.20 (16x16)

Bedroom, Dining & walkway
Floor - RM1.70 (12x12)

Bathroom
Wall - RM0.80
Floor - RM1.70

Thanx ciderblue :D

[shel]

Uma is not INDIAN Lady, she is Malay lady coz i met her when i made an appointment to inspect the house.

there is three lady in marketing depart. - janet, uma and one chinese girl.

the project manager called Eddy, everytime call forever not in the office.
she refused to give eddy's hp number. this cindy tui sounded so scared to tell us the truth!!!!! :rolleyes:

:mad: no manners...people in SMI, What i think they also get pressured from us la friends...put this way if they dun want us to bug them all the TIME....dun give us this kind of problem :mad:

i am not showing you guys that i am angry...like i said: renting the house and need to pay installment for the new house ...is a big things RIGHT!!!!

MONEY WON'T DROP FROM THE SKY...
Sorry guys i am bit emotional


Uma sounded like an indian to me because of her slang... but whatever it is, they are a bunch of rude people!

[ciderblue]

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I have received vacant possession but till now, there is still no sight of the CFO. What should I do?
These are the steps that you may take:

i. Check with the developer and the issuing local authorities on the cause of the delay.

ii. If you are not satisfied with the response that you have been given, you may make a complaint to the Ministry of Housing and Local Government together with the following documents:

a) a copy of the notice of handover of vacant possession
b) a copy of the certificate of completion issued by the Architect
c) a copy of the letter from the local authorities regarding the issue of CFO

iii. Form an action group with other affected buyers for a cohesive voice and also to share task and to show how concerned and serious this group of affected purchasers in wanting to move into their homes.

iv. Attend the HBA's "Meet the Public" session to check if similar complaints on the same project has been received and also on whether an action group for that particular project has been formed and if not, to learn on the steps on how to form one.

http://www.hba.org.my/faq/vp_cfo.htm
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Have anyone done the above method yet? Can we come out a standard letter, find out the address to send and distribute to everyone in the forum to send it each per unit!?

[anastasea]

hi Marvy! i think i know you...

Anyway i agree with you 100%. We have to do something! Before this I really bz to buy this and that for my house but then when i think back, i should get the CF first.

[Andryn]

Dear people,

i have a contact no for one of the KM panel contractor. she can give you a good price. feel free to give her a call. her name is Grace 016-2282146. her price is quite alright. tell her that you got her no from Evelyn - B1312.

thanks!

[ciderblue]

Hi thcck0315,

I just came back from KM after inspecting my crack wall. They have done the job. They also mention that the CF is will be ready by early April. I saw the rubbish bin has arrived and located just opp of the management office. I strongly believe our CF should be ready soon.

Btw, anybody here from this two units ? (B-13-11 & B-15-11) your study room's windows are not close!! :eek: Because our unit is facing the open ground (facing west) the winds are very strong. When I tried to open the kitchen windows, I can feel the "horrible" wind sound.... :p I don't know what will happen to your unit. Please check it out. (I was in the condo when t rains just now)

I also notice the workers have a very bad habbit. They don't shut the window after they have finish working. Please check your windows and your sliding door. ;)

Regards,
V&C

Let's us go back to check the crack again after the strong quake last nite!!!

[totoro]

Let's us go back to check the crack again after the strong quake last nite!!!

Heard Kelana Puteri residents ran out of their units...

[V&C]

Heard Kelana Puteri residents ran out of their units...

Do the KM have any earth quake alarm ?? :confused:

[V&C]

Let's us go back to check the crack again after the strong quake last nite!!!

Good idea ! Btw i can feel my bed shacking yesterday.... wondering what happen to our unit.... :(