Kelana Mahkota Condo Pre Management Committee

[exiled_criminal]

As a neighbourly gesture, I have also put up 2 photos on our KMC photo album:

Kitchen (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/k_mahkota/totoro/f11222f5.jpg)

KLCC View (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/k_mahkota/totoro/a6e79995.jpg)

The kitchen isn't my ideal or dream kitchen in many ways, but I learnt a lot of lessons on what to do and not to do for my next kitchen, in a decade or so. :D

Mine also the same color.... :o

[totoro]

Mine also the same color.... :olol... so is Andryn and SHiGE...

[thcck0315]

Dear thcck0315,

Congrats as you are going to shift to KMC! I'm still a few months away :(
Anyway...if it rains on the day you're moving in or the day before, suggest don't use the Block C LG2 lifts. Water normally rises around there and it'll be difficult for you to move your things without wading.

thanks for advise......

[tfleong]

Just wanna ask..... is the land where KMC is built still encumbered to any bank etc.?

[kennethlhm]

Wanna ask abt installing aircond in mbr. Other than piping frm mbr -> living hall -> balcony, is there other options?

[mrsricster]

Just wanna ask..... is the land where KMC is built still encumbered to any bank etc.?

tfleong,

From KMC brochure, at the back page it is listed "Encumbrances : Charge to Arab-Malaysian Trustee Berhad".

[totoro]

Using my Jaring Wireless broadband from KMC to make this post... it's quite a bit slow... but I haven't put it in an optimal place yet... :D

[tfleong]

tfleong,

From KMC brochure, at the back page it is listed "Encumbrances : Charge to Arab-Malaysian Trustee Berhad".

Yeap... that I know.... I mean now.... is it still under encumbrances? I was told last time when KMC is completed, it will no longer be. Coz I'm looking at refinancing.... lower my instalment :D

[totoro]

Using my Jaring Wireless broadband from KMC to make this post... it's quite a bit slow... but I haven't put it in an optimal place yet... :DOk, speed is better at late nights and in the early mornings. What I like is the free RM50 VoIP calls for the first month, 10 sen per minute nationwide fixed-line and 20 sen per minute to mobiles. :)

Now I'm connected @ home.

[SHiGE]

lol... so is Andryn and SHiGE...
mine nicer.. heh heh... ;) , one of my color is diff from urs.

[totoro]

It is perhaps with regret that I have to report THEFT in Kelana Mahkota. This is very sad, but I hope whoever took my Timberland shoes made good use of it to help the poor and needy.

[Andryn02]

good morning everybody!

i have lots of telekom application forms with me. i got it from my office. the telekom people said that if more people apply then the faster the line will be coming in to our condo. so i can ask for more forms from the telekom guy and u all can get it from me then submit it together so that we can get the line faster. now they have promotion that u can actually apply for the 2nd line and the monthly rental fee for the 2nd line is only RM10. this promotion is valid code 03 area.

for example: if your mother having the telekom line and she is staying at Subang but u still can apply for the 2nd line at KM. telekom will send the bill to her but it will be separate bill.

[Andryn02]

hi !

its me again. please let me know the next meeting. we missed lots of meeting but this time we will try our best to attend it. thanksssssssssss!

[SHiGE]

It is perhaps with regret that I have to report THEFT in Kelana Mahkota. This is very sad, but I hope whoever took my Timberland shoes made good use of it to help the poor and needy.
don't ever leave shoe at the entrance... always kena stolen one. happen to me once at the place i'm staying right now. my 3 days old Larrie Leather shoe gone one day.... :(

[totoro]

don't ever leave shoe at the entrance... always kena stolen one. happen to me once at the place i'm staying right now. my 3 days old Larrie Leather shoe gone one day.... :(Actually more sad that the theft can happen with 24-hours security and with supposedly tight controls on who can come in and out of the condo.

[pistachio]

don't ever leave shoe at the entrance... always kena stolen one. happen to me once at the place i'm staying right now. my 3 days old Larrie Leather shoe gone one day.... :(

The missing shoes is one story. Heard last night some of our bigger gym equipments are missing one by one.

[totoro]

The missing shoes is one story. Heard last night some of our bigger gym equipments are missing one by one.so, did u hear why this is happening and what is being done to stop it?

[nkent]

Actually more sad that the theft can happen with 24-hours security and with supposedly tight controls on who can come in and out of the condo.

This is unfortunately can be an inside job or some unethical residents. How to catch these people when they already have the rights to be in the premises, going in and out freely? :mad:

[totoro]

This is unfortunately can be an inside job or some unethical residents. How to catch these people when they already have the rights to be in the premises, going in and out freely? :mad:This morning I saw a stream of cars coming into KMC, when I was reporting the theft to the guardhouse. One driver just flashed his sticker (which wasn't stuck to his windscreen), and waved the car behind him in as well, probably as visitor.

I have no idea if this is a real owner with a sticker bringing in a real visitor, but in any case, he managed to get 2 cars in and he didn't have to display the sticker anymore as soon as he got in.

What's even better? No need to sign in!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[ricster]

Actually more sad that the theft can happen with 24-hours security and with supposedly tight controls on who can come in and out of the condo.

Did you watch Phenomenon which starred John Travolta? In the movie, he had a little garden. I forgot what he planted but let's assume it's carrots. What happened was, his carrot kept got eaten by rabbits. So what he did was, he build a fence around the garden. But still, carrots were eaten. He build a higher fence but still it was no help & he can't figure out why. Then later in the movie, he was struck by lightning or whatever which made him extrememly smart. He finally figured out that by building the fence, he was not keeping the rabbits out but rather trapping the rabbits in. That's why his carrots kept got eaten.

Just something for us to think about. Hmmm...

[Andryn02]

The missing shoes is one story. Heard last night some of our bigger gym equipments are missing one by one.


we went to the gym last weekend and we asked the mgt where the other equipments? the lady said that they send it for fixing. and some of the equipment cant be use.

[pistachio]

so, did u hear why this is happening and what is being done to stop it?

You caught my drift... what I heard was, the NEW equipments were being "maintained" by the management that also happens to manage 7 other condos. And chances are they are being "lent" to other condos. :eek: The equipments are decreasing, and am afraid by the time we move in, we would be left with one or two equipments when we started out with many more. :(

[totoro]

hi guys... I'm playing badminton this Saturday and I was wondering if I can borrow the net from one of you guys? Please PM me if you are willing to lend a hand... (or in this case, a net!)

[xcqfell]

Hi all,
anyone can get the TV reception clear?
I'm from block B, initially can get blur pic with sound once i plugged into my cable tv provided.

But once i put my tv cabinet, i can only get blur pic without any sound!!!...
not sure if tv height from floor does matter for good tv reception?? **blur**
(did buy the cheap indoor antenna as per totoro advised earlier) hehe just didn't work, manage to get more tv channel but still no sounnd!..

been 3 weeks now without tv, just vcd and mp3 hiks..tak bole tahan liao ...

ps: plan to get astro as well. ready for plug and play/need more tuning??

tq tq

[totoro]

(did buy the cheap indoor antenna as per totoro advised earlier) hehe just didn't work, manage to get more tv channel but still no sounnd!..

ps: plan to get astro as well. ready for plug and play/need more tuning??Oh yeah, the indoor antenna works fine for me coz I am at the top floor. I tried it at the 1st floor, and it's not good...! :(

But good news is I was told they have replaced the MATV contractor and my MATV wall socket aerial has better reception now. Not crystal clear, but can watch lar...

I'm out of budget for Astro, but never watched it when I did subscribe... heard plug-and-play worked for some owners, for a while...

[xcqfell]

wow. that's fast totoro (wondering what's ur job now hehe) :)
anyway that's good to hear quick response , btw we 're in the same floor only different block :p, let me try again today, these few days didn't really turn on my tv already hehe.

will check with bala then about astro by end of this week :)
tq

[V&C]

hi guys... I'm playing badminton this Saturday and I was wondering if I can borrow the net from one of you guys? Please PM me if you are willing to lend a hand... (or in this case, a net!)

If I'm not mistaken, the net is already there :)

[totoro]

If I'm not mistaken, the net is already there :)i takut nanti net pun kena curi. :rolleyes:

[miloice]

V&C, during rainy days if you go to LG1/LG2 at Block A, you'll be able to see a few fish ponds, if you want one, you should ask from SMI....lol :D


In LG2, the fish ponds are MUCH MUCH bigger !!! covering nearly 80% of the car park !!

[alexcttan]

You caught my drift... what I heard was, the NEW equipments were being "maintained" by the management that also happens to manage 7 other condos. And chances are they are being "lent" to other condos. :eek: The equipments are decreasing, and am afraid by the time we move in, we would be left with one or two equipments when we started out with many more. :(

How many types/pieces of equipment are we suppose to get??

[pistachio]

Looking for owner of A-3-09.

The plumbing in my apartment seems to be clogged before we even used it.The management has been trying to contact the owner of the apartment downstairs(A-3-09) to see if the clogging originated there but efforts came to no avail.

Would the owner please send me a private message?

[alexcttan]

In LG2, the fish ponds are MUCH MUCH bigger !!! covering nearly 80% of the car park !!

Hmm...can teach diving there??!! :D :p :rolleyes:

[kennethlhm]

In LG2, the fish ponds are MUCH MUCH bigger !!! covering nearly 80% of the car park !!
really so serious? nearby wer? i c the carparks in lg2 nearby lift seems dry, dusty

[pistachio]

How many types/pieces of equipment are we suppose to get??

For that I think we need the help of people who have been visiting the gym more often. Anybody here notice and can confirm which machine was actually missing?

I heard we're supposed to have two cycling machine but now left with only one. Anybody can confirm anything else?

[miloice]

not always true. i live in a condo now. wat happens is, during peak hours, a lot of people will be using water. as such, when the water in the tank that sits at the top of the building drops below a certain level, water will be pumped up to the tank. when this happens, the water in the tank will get agitated & the sediment that has settled to the bottom will get mixed up into the water & goes to our tap. :(

where i'm staying now, the RA is going to use their sinking fund (i think) to install water filter (heavy duty type) up at the tank. then the residents will get clean water without the need to install filters of their own. but by the time they finish installing, i won't be staying there anymore.


Ohh... can KM also install water filter at thier tank?? as the water at Kelana Putra now is very very dirty. u can basically see the color differences between filtered water and unfiltered water.

[miloice]

This morning I saw a stream of cars coming into KMC, when I was reporting the theft to the guardhouse. One driver just flashed his sticker (which wasn't stuck to his windscreen), and waved the car behind him in as well, probably as visitor.

I have no idea if this is a real owner with a sticker bringing in a real visitor, but in any case, he managed to get 2 cars in and he didn't have to display the sticker anymore as soon as he got in.

What's even better? No need to sign in!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Normally, stolen shoes are done by Indon worker.. It always happened in my existing condo, when there are renovation or there are development nearby. So, we have to be careful ourselves lor... what to do?

[totoro]

Ohh... can KM also install water filter at thier tank?? as the water at Kelana Putra now is very very dirty. u can basically see the color differences between filtered water and unfiltered water.I encourage you to write a letter to management and request for one.

It seems to me that the management will take action only when they have received enough feedback/letters/complaints from the owners.

[miloice]

Hmm...can teach diving there??!! :D :p :rolleyes:

diving cannot lar... but can put some floating plant and small fish for deco :p

[totoro]

diving cannot lar... but can put some floating plant and small fish for deco :p I think a Koi pond can really add value to KMC! :D :D :D

but my frens are more into Arowana...

[miloice]

I encourage you to write a letter to management and request for one.

It seems to me that the management will take action only when they have received enough feedback/letters/complaints from the owners.


I think we can development a few complaint letter templates :
- Water Filter
- Flooding car park
- Intercom problem
- TV reception

And photostat a lot, so every one just sign and send to mgmt!! In that case, there will be more feed back. :D

[chimera11]

i think we can drill a small hole, big hole, dismantle wall etc... as long as, u dont touch any beams or column.. that's the management's concern...

yesterday, bala came to my unit for inspection refund of renovation deposit.. first thing he came and see is my aircond.. luckily i didnt install any aircond.. i explained to him that i didnt do any major renovation that involves beams or columns.. he was happy and left after 3 minutes...


dear all, just a quick check......have any of u got back your RM 3,000 deposit from the mgmt after your reno completed. Bala checked my unit early this mth and he asked me to wait for 2 wks for the chq.......any ppl out there have problems with this this issue???

waiting anxiously, :confused:
chimera11

[Andryn02]

Hi all,
anyone can get the TV reception clear?
I'm from block B, initially can get blur pic with sound once i plugged into my cable tv provided.

But once i put my tv cabinet, i can only get blur pic without any sound!!!...
not sure if tv height from floor does matter for good tv reception?? **blur**
(did buy the cheap indoor antenna as per totoro advised earlier) hehe just didn't work, manage to get more tv channel but still no sounnd!..

been 3 weeks now without tv, just vcd and mp3 hiks..tak bole tahan liao ...

ps: plan to get astro as well. ready for plug and play/need more tuning??

tq tq

hi!
we are from block b too and our TV reception for TV1 / TV2 and NTV7 are very clear. however TV8 and TV3 are very blurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. sometime cant even see the picture. aiyoo...so boring. radio also very blur :mad:

[totoro]

dear all, just a quick check......have any of u got back your RM 3,000 deposit from the mgmt after your reno completed. Bala checked my unit early this mth and he asked me to wait for 2 wks for the chq.......any ppl out there have problems with this this issue???

waiting anxiously, :confused:
chimera11I got my first refund in 2 weeks. I am waiting for my 2nd refund (for separate reno) which should arrive by next week.

[chimera11]

btw, anyone here play mahjong... :D

you refer to tiga kaki or empat :p[/QUOTE]


hi kean, i am in for 3 kaki.........

cheers ;)

[kean]

you refer to tiga kaki or empat :p


hi kean, i am in for 3 kaki.........

cheers ;)[/QUOTE]

alrite, book me for one!!! I wil move in on 28/5/2005. :p

[ilovecath]

dear all regulars,

juz a quick question, anyone pay the may-june maintenance fee yet?
i dunno to pay or not to pay.

[Andryn02]

dear all regulars,

juz a quick question, anyone pay the may-june maintenance fee yet?
i dunno to pay or not to pay.


yeah we paid already. mgt will charge interest. the latest date 10/5. mgt open on sunday too...u can pay them on weekend.

[duxz]

yeah we paid already. mgt will charge interest. the latest date 10/5. mgt open on sunday too...u can pay them on weekend.

Ohhh trust me... when it comes to leeching on our money.... management veli veli hard work wan... sunday oso open... public holiday oso open. But when u need them to waste some money..... always oso close.

[miloice]

Ohhh trust me... when it comes to leeching on our money.... management veli veli hard work wan... sunday oso open... public holiday oso open. But when u need them to waste some money..... always oso close.


****.... charge interest???? I never heard maintenance fee also got interest !!! they are really leechhhhh...

[SHiGE]

In LG2, the fish ponds are MUCH MUCH bigger !!! covering nearly 80% of the car park !!
my gosh.. 80%!! my carpark is situated in the middle of LG2... please tell me mgmt is doing something about this problem as i'm about to move in already.

[ilovecath]

Ohhh trust me... when it comes to leeching on our money.... management veli veli hard work wan... sunday oso open... public holiday oso open. But when u need them to waste some money..... always oso close.

can't we negotiate not to pay yet until (or at least) the car park flood issue is settle? and what about the gym?? missing equipment?? and because of all this we still have to pay??

[nkent]

can't we negotiate not to pay yet until (or at least) the car park flood issue is settle? and what about the gym?? missing equipment?? and because of all this we still have to pay??

i suggest that all of us pay first. at least they would not able to have any excuses saying that we didn't pay, so they don't have funds to rectify blah blah blah....
until our RA is set up, it's difficult to raise these issues without a collective loud voice.

[Jaytea]

i suggest that all of us pay first. at least they would not able to have any excuses saying that we didn't pay, so they don't have funds to rectify blah blah blah....
until our RA is set up, it's difficult to raise these issues without a collective loud voice.

agreed, nkent.
if owners do not pay, then there will be no money for maintainance, upkeep, bayar guard, bayar anything. nothing, zero, zilch.
this is not the way to hold them ransom.
and i don't think that we can say that they're not doing anything about the situation. it's quite a big problem - the flooding/drainage, and it will not be solved overnight.

[ilovecath]

looks like i got no other choice lor. but really feel cheated :mad:

[totoro]

agreed, nkent.
if owners do not pay, then there will be no money for maintainance, upkeep, bayar guard, bayar anything. nothing, zero, zilch.
this is not the way to hold them ransom.
and i don't think that we can say that they're not doing anything about the situation. it's quite a big problem - the flooding/drainage, and it will not be solved overnight.but i think they already collected more than RM400,000 already from the 3 months desposit right? How can that be no money? Plus another 2 months for May/June from each owner... that's a lot of money!

And if I'm not mistaken, the Samudra staff weren't even set-up in KMC until late March/April right..?

Planting the trees and works on the surroundings are supposed to be paid for by the developer as part of the SPA. Rectifying the defects in the buildings and units are also supposed to be paid for by the developer.

So we have to ask each other, and the management - what is the maintenance fees being put into use for? Other than paying for security guards, gardener, cleaners and other maintenance crew.

[kennethlhm]

last time we paid 1 month deposit, 3 months in advance
the 3 months already used for feb, mar, apr
so now they r collecting may & june
anyway i oso advice to pay 1st
or not later they charge u interest

whether start counting frm feb or apr is an issue
charge u interest for late payment is another issue

[duxz]

but i think they already collected more than RM400,000 already from the 3 months desposit right? How can that be no money? Plus another 2 months for May/June from each owner... that's a lot of money!

And if I'm not mistaken, the Samudra staff weren't even set-up in KMC until late March/April right..?

Then looks like we gotta get the RA team to move in on this issue too. I think we deserve every rights to see where the money was channel to.... can we?

[Jaytea]

looks like i got no other choice lor. but really feel cheated :mad:

i also. but 2 wrongs do not make a right. justice has yet to prevail.

we need to choose our battles carefully, and determine our tactics wisely.

to withold payment - not very wise.

btw, the rectification work should be bourne by the developer, not to be taken out of the maintainace money, cos it was a design.construction fault. right?

[mrsricster]

my gosh.. 80%!! my carpark is situated in the middle of LG2... please tell me mgmt is doing something about this problem as i'm about to move in already.

I don't know whether getting some cleaners to use "pencedok sampah" to drain water, pour water in pails and then throw water away can be consider as "management is doing something about this problem" :mad:. That was what we saw once but at that time, the flood problem was not that bad, only scattered areas. 80% is too much :mad: !!! Our carpark is also located somewhere near you.....

[totoro]

I don't know whether getting some cleaners to use "pencedok sampah" to drain water, pour water in pails and then throw water away can be consider as "management is doing something about this problem" :mad:. That was what we saw once but at that time, the flood problem was not that bad, only scattered areas. 80% is too much :mad: !!! Our carpark is also located somewhere near you.....Once again I encourage you to write in a written complaint, and keep a copy.

The management is supposed to file and store these complaints from the owners, with written details of how the complaint was attended to and rectified.

I have a feeling sometimes the complaints that have been submitted are probably thrown aside and neglected. This means the management isn't doing their job they are being paid to do, and eventually will lead to a cause for termination.

The manager of Kelana D'Putera did get fired and replaced when I was staying there.

[SHiGE]

and i don't think that we can say that they're not doing anything about the situation. it's quite a big problem - the flooding/drainage, and it will not be solved overnight.
yup.. is not an overnight solved problem... but they had 3 yrs to solve the problem already. assuming they fail to see the problem during the design phase, they still had years of time to rectify the solution. i'm sure way before we start to move in and while they still building the condo, the LG2 also flooded from every rain.

[Tarantula]

Once again I encourage you to write in a written complaint, and keep a copy.

The management is supposed to file and store these complaints from the owners, with written details of how the complaint was attended to and rectified.

I have a feeling sometimes the complaints that have been submitted are probably thrown aside and neglected. This means the management isn't doing their job they are being paid to do, and eventually will lead to a cause for termination.

The manager of Kelana D'Putera did get fired and replaced when I was staying there.

i agree with u to write a letter to management... but that's still not good enough..

the best way.. is still... to call Buletin Utama TV3.. get them here to do some news coverage... then u see what happen the next morning...

[Tarantula]

i agree with u to write a letter to management... but that's still not good enough..

the best way.. is still... to call Buletin Utama TV3.. get them here to do some news coverage... then u see what happen the next morning...

i dont believe in letters actually... better use email...

get the Samudra CEO email address.. email to him.. and CC to everyone in the mailing list.. that's better.. and also.. dont forget to CC to TV3 also... or probably to NTV7... or may be to Harian Metro etc? why not? ada berani ka?

[The Builder]

i dont believe in letters actually... better use email...

get the Samudra CEO email address.. email to him.. and CC to everyone in the mailing list.. that's better.. and also.. dont forget to CC to TV3 also... or probably to NTV7... or may be to Harian Metro etc? why not? ada berani ka?
Let's not going to that extend yet before the air is cleared. After all, we don't want to project too much negative image of the property itself (which do no one any good and may even scared off potential buyers / tenants).

I would recommend to send all your frustration / issue / query to both Mr Kuan (our pro-term president) and Tony Wong (our pro-term committee in charged off complaints section) so that the committee can bring all these issues up to Samudra during their upcoming meeting.

[totoro]

I would recommend to send all your frustration / issue / query to both Mr Kuan (our pro-term president) and Tony Wong (our pro-term committee in charged off complaints section) so that the committee can bring all these issues up to Samudra during their upcoming meeting.just imho, i would prefer to raise our issues directly to the building management and to the developer but to keep Kuan and Tony in the loop.

[DnA]

Hi everyone,

Good to know that we have a healthy and thriving community in KM. ;)

Have been reading this thread over the last few days.... phew

Anyway, we have to thank and congratulate everyone for sharing and contributing their thoughts and ideas for the common good (complaints also OK but better to be +ve right)

We have just started reno. work today and appreciate all the ideas and contacts that were posted earlier.

However, we have a few more queries....

1. Anyone know where to get good quality hobs at a reasonble price? Tried Paramax and was quoted 700+ for Rinnai 2 burner hob. We have set our mind on a Fujioh hood but thier hobs are way too expensive.

2. How did you get your ducting done up for your kitchen hood? All the way out to the outside or just to the yard? Reason is coz we bought a ceiling pulley hanger system for our drying our clothes and don't particularly want our clothes smelling like our meals. :o

3. Did u guys manage to get exactly the same shade/colour tiles from the manufacturer for the floor (from the hacked wall btw the living and dining area)? If you did and have some leftovers, could you spare some for us? We just need a few for the floor as the steps are going to be a different colour( just to differentiate that there are steps over there)

Your ideas and suggestions are deeply appreciated.

We plan to go over on Sat. to view the progress of our unit. Just wondering if we could view some of your units which have been completed. It may provide us with more practical ideas and also ways to save some $$$. (Didn't expect that a new home would cost so much. But it is definitely worth it if you plan to make it your home)

Cheers!
Dave & Audrey

[DnA]

Btw when is the next RA meeting?

[SHiGE]

DnA.

For hob, you can try Electrolux, good and cheap. RM400++
For chimney hood, the cheapest i found is Rinnai RH952. RM600++
For ducting, you can duct all the way out. no point stop at the yard.
For tiles, it is said there will be some variation even you get the same code. but my contractor somehow manage to get a 99% similar tiles.. :eek:

[exiled_criminal]

dear all, just a quick check......have any of u got back your RM 3,000 deposit from the mgmt after your reno completed. Bala checked my unit early this mth and he asked me to wait for 2 wks for the chq.......any ppl out there have problems with this this issue???

waiting anxiously, :confused:
chimera11

I have waited for more than one months for my RM500. He kept asking me to wait.

[totoro]

Did you watch Phenomenon which starred John Travolta? In the movie, he had a little garden. I forgot what he planted but let's assume it's carrots. What happened was, his carrot kept got eaten by rabbits. So what he did was, he build a fence around the garden. But still, carrots were eaten. He build a higher fence but still it was no help & he can't figure out why. Then later in the movie, he was struck by lightning or whatever which made him extrememly smart. He finally figured out that by building the fence, he was not keeping the rabbits out but rather trapping the rabbits in. That's why his carrots kept got eaten.

Just something for us to think about. Hmmm...harapkan pagar, pagar makan padi...
harapkan jaga, jaga goyang kaki...

[SHiGE]

i just receive a letter from my bank which i appointed for this KM housing loan. the letter mention something the quit rent is due and ask us to pay? what is that?

[pistachio]

The other day as I was moving our stuff some time around 3.30pm (very bright and hot) just outside LG2 I realised I was bitten by a mosquito. I swatted it and to my surprise, it was an aedes mosquito. :eek:

Sometimes looking out the balcony(of my unit in Block A) I notice a lot of puddles and stagnant water at the Sterling construction site. Some of the puddles had even turned green for being stagnant that long. And there are thrown-away cannisters which have been collecting rain.

Plus the fact that Kelana Mahkota & Sterling used to be a garbage landfill area, adds risk to this. :(

Would anybody know anybody in Health Ministry so they can fog Sterling & KM area? Or have that ministry send a stern warning to the Sterling developers for the aedes risk they are adding? (can get the developer scared one since an inspection can reveal the foreign workers there)

[exiled_criminal]

Sometimes looking out the balcony(of my unit in Block A) I notice a lot of puddles and stagnant water at the Sterling construction site. Some of the puddles had even turned green for being stagnant that long. And there are thrown-away cannisters which have been collecting rain.

Would anybody know anybody in Health Ministry so they can fog Sterling & KM area? Or have that ministry send a stern warning to the Sterling developers for the aedes risk they are adding? (can get the developer scared one since an inspection can reveal the foreign workers there)

I am in block C and facing the Indon quarters which is next to the Sterling show room. There are also green puddles along outside of KM fence. There are also mosquitos in my unit in level 6.

[totoro]

dear neighbours,

wondering if any of you happen to have the contact details for the panel lawyers used by SMI when they were selling KMC? i need to contact the lawyer (the one in Kuchai Lama) but left the details at home.

cheers!

[nkent]

The other day as I was moving our stuff some time around 3.30pm (very bright and hot) just outside LG2 I realised I was bitten by a mosquito. I swatted it and to my surprise, it was an aedes mosquito. :eek:


Aedes are quite rampant in Kelana Jaya, so beware! There are a lot of dengue cases in this area. :(

[kuanj]

dear neighbours,

wondering if any of you happen to have the contact details for the panel lawyers used by SMI when they were selling KMC? i need to contact the lawyer (the one in Kuchai Lama) but left the details at home.

cheers!

Totoro,

Is in yr gmail address.

Kuanj

[totoro]

Aedes are quite rampant in Kelana Jaya, so beware! There are a lot of dengue cases in this area. :(From a person who has kena dengue before... this is no joke!

Something to highlight again - is for owners to regularly check, clean and disinfect your floor traps, which traps water. There might be threats from units where owners haven't moved in yet, even from open toilet bowls, uncapped empty tins of paint.

Oh btw, exiled_criminal, I also noticed the KM castle 'moat' separating the Indon workers temporary housing and our condo. Did you notice that our walls are low, and sometimes when driving out from KM I do see people (contractors) climbing over the corner wall (next to Sterling showroom car park), unknown to the guards.

[oliviasy]

there's a stream of water flowing around the fences outside of Mahkota as we speak/type. developer should've built a proper drainage system to let the access water flow out to larger longkangs. stagnant waters spell trouble. perhaps when RA is up & running, we could suggest to have fogging services every month. Where I'm currently staying, we have fogging services every month, twice.

[Psalm91]

The other day as I was moving our stuff some time around 3.30pm (very bright and hot) just outside LG2 I realised I was bitten by a mosquito. I swatted it and to my surprise, it was an aedes mosquito. :eek:

Sometimes looking out the balcony(of my unit in Block A) I notice a lot of puddles and stagnant water at the Sterling construction site. Some of the puddles had even turned green for being stagnant that long. And there are thrown-away cannisters which have been collecting rain.

Plus the fact that Kelana Mahkota & Sterling used to be a garbage landfill area, adds risk to this. :(

Would anybody know anybody in Health Ministry so they can fog Sterling & KM area? Or have that ministry send a stern warning to the Sterling developers for the aedes risk they are adding? (can get the developer scared one since an inspection can reveal the foreign workers there)

I've heard Kelana Jaya has one of the highest cases of dengue. Fogging won't help much unless areas with stagnant water surrounding KMC ie. the "green moat", etc is dealt with. So are we all going to (collectively) write in our complaint letters in regard to the flooding in carparks (serious issue), missing gym equipment, etc ? Aiyaa worst case... if they still sit on all these issues, I have a reporter friend, can get him to help us highlight this in MM, as I think even if we write in to the mgmt, there is a high possibility of them throwing it aside. :eek: :p ;)

[totoro]

any recommendations for a fridge? I'm thinking of getting an older Sharp model (new fridge from the shop, but older model la)... 470l capacity for about RM1600:

Model - SHP-SJ49LA2S
Dimensions - 680Wx1850Hx660D

any bad experiences?

[DnA]

any recommendations for a fridge? I'm thinking of getting an older Sharp model (new fridge from the shop, but older model la)... 470l capacity for about RM1600:

Model - SHP-SJ49LA2S
Dimensions - 680Wx1850Hx660D

any bad experiences?


Hi Totoro,

We r gettin the latest Panasonic fridge with 472 litre capacity from Eng Hin. I believe it's about Rm1800 (can't remember correctly). It has the latest features like anti-bacteria, crisper for vege. etc + tempered glass.

My parents use a Sharp fridge - not sure what model though and have had no problems with it so far.

Regards,
Dave

[totoro]

anyone got leftover paint for the balcony orange color, pls pm me? :D

only a few brush strokes... TQ in advance! :cool:

btw, my washing machine, when I attach the hose to my laundry tap, leaks water when turned on... I think it didn't fit tight enough... should I buy a new hose?

[how_wei]

i just got one, i think it's a good deal

[Andryn02]

anyone got leftover paint for the balcony orange color, pls pm me? :D

only a few brush strokes... TQ in advance! :cool:

btw, my washing machine, when I attach the hose to my laundry tap, leaks water when turned on... I think it didn't fit tight enough... should I buy a new hose?

I THINK IT DIDNT FIT TIGHT ENOUGH COZ MINE IS ALRIGHT

[totoro]

wondering if anyone here collects English / Japanese / Korean / HK / Taiwan / Chinese movies and drama series on DVD / VCD and music CDs ?

If got, wanna exchange i.e. lend and borrow ? :D

Pls PM me. TQ!

[SHiGE]

wondering if anyone here collects English / Japanese / Korean / HK / Taiwan / Chinese movies and drama series on DVD / VCD and music CDs ?

If got, wanna exchange i.e. lend and borrow ? :D

Pls PM me. TQ!
500GB of it enuf? ;)

[yeeyang]

Hi everyone of Kelana Mahkota frens!

I am new here. I just bought a unit in Sterling@ PJ. Well, this website is very useful for me to know about the developement of KM. So i will post the relevant things to SMi people as well, note them to avoid the repeated mistakes.

BTW, i am going to borrow loan from bank. Any recommendation? Which bank offer the best rate and better service, rebate, etc. Please advice KM friends.
:)

[lone ranger]

Hi everyone of Kelana Mahkota frens!

I am new here. I just bought a unit in Sterling@ PJ. Well, this website is very useful for me to know about the developement of KM. So i will post the relevant things to SMi people as well, note them to avoid the repeated mistakes.

BTW, i am going to borrow loan from bank. Any recommendation? Which bank offer the best rate and better service, rebate, etc. Please advice KM friends.
:)

:) hi everyone was at KM this afternoon and heard the good news from bala that 100 phone lines are available. so sign up fast to avoid disappointment. i heard this service is courtesy of a owner who is an exTM staff, he went and made noise with the higher ups god bless his soul. streamyx also available. cheers :p

[chinmin]

:) hi everyone was at KM this afternoon and heard the good news from bala that 100 phone lines are available. so sign up fast to avoid disappointment. i heard this service is courtesy of a owner who is an exTM staff, he went and made noise with the higher ups god bless his soul. streamyx also available. cheers :p

But where to sign up? In Telekom or in the KM Maintenance Office? :confused:

[totoro]

For your information, there is night markets around this area:

Mondays, Thursdays - SS2 / SS2 (Chow Yang)
Wednesdays - Jalan SS 3 (Across LDP from KMC, enter at Caltex)
Sundays - Taman Megah, across Meng Tien foodcourt

[SHiGE]

:) hi everyone was at KM this afternoon and heard the good news from bala that 100 phone lines are available. so sign up fast to avoid disappointment. i heard this service is courtesy of a owner who is an exTM staff, he went and made noise with the higher ups god bless his soul. streamyx also available. cheers :p
how come only 100? isn't it either they don't pull the line in or pull.. if pull, isn't all unit should have liao?

[lone ranger]

sign up for phone lines at KM maintenance office. dont know why only 100 lines, may they pull from elsewhere and will add on later me not sure about the technicalities

[Jaytea]

For your information, there is night markets around this area:

Mondays, Thursdays - SS2 / SS2 (Chow Yang)
Wednesdays - Jalan SS 3 (Across LDP from KMC, enter at Caltex)
Sundays - Taman Megah, across Meng Tien foodcourt

Monday's @ SS2 town center
Tuesday's @ SS3 tongkong/7-11
Wednesday's SS4 Across LDP from KMC, enter at Caltex
Thursday SS2 chowyang

[pistachio]

sign up for phone lines at KM maintenance office. dont know why only 100 lines, may they pull from elsewhere and will add on later me not sure about the technicalities

What happened to the Centrex intercom plan (phone & intercom package) we all discussed the other day?

[totoro]

sign up for phone lines at KM maintenance office. dont know why only 100 lines, may they pull from elsewhere and will add on later me not sure about the technicalitiesi applied for a transfer... and i did it through Telekom...

[chimera11]

Hi everyone of Kelana Mahkota frens!

I am new here. I just bought a unit in Sterling@ PJ. Well, this website is very useful for me to know about the developement of KM. So i will post the relevant things to SMi people as well, note them to avoid the repeated mistakes.

BTW, i am going to borrow loan from bank. Any recommendation? Which bank offer the best rate and better service, rebate, etc. Please advice KM friends.
:)

my personal recommendation is to take frm a bank offering daily rest interest(DRI) calculation term loan (TL).......frm wat i know there is currently 3 banks offering purely on this which are Citibank, OUB and OCBC. Why daily rest??? B'coz ppl like me are not self employed. we get a basic salary every mth. imagine if your installment is RM 1000 per/mth. If you pay RM 1000 today for your installment and later if u have excess of RM 100 (after minus all your expenses), u may pay down your principle if you initially opt for DRI TL. wat it means is your principle (initial borrowed sum) would be reduced further by RM 100. if u systemactically pay more than your installment every mth, u may finish paying up faster than the initially agreed tenure (save $$$ on interest). If u take a bank offering TL on a mthly rest interest calculation (ie. besides all the banks above) even u pay more on your installment, the bank would not take into account the additional payment as a principle reduction basis. It would consider as advance payment for the next mth installment. so in short, u pay more every mth but u may not cut years off your loan tenure. pls don't be taken by other banks like Stand Chart and HSBC "claims" to offer on DRI but they are actually not. Why??? try to ask them one simple ques. if my installment is RM 1000 per mth, and i pay RM1000 today and RM1 tomolo. Wat would happen to the additional RM1 that i paid. a lot of banks would say they would not reduce the principle by an additional RM1 but if the banks really are DRI basis they would certainly reduce your principle even by paying an additional RM1..... try citibank, they would certainly reduce your principle amt borrowed by an additional RM 1 extra.......no other banks in town can do wonders like this... if u have any doubts on my claims try to ask your banker on the above ques.........see wat they tell uuuuuuu

just my 2 cents of advice.......... ;)

[SHiGE]

even if it is monthly rest, paying RM100 extra consistently every month will also nett you similar saving. you may not get the RM100 principle interest reduction on that month, but you will for the next month.

i don't know about this true daily rest or fake daily rest. as far as i know, most bank offer daily rest nowadays with the exception of Public bank and some that i may not aware of. Hong Leong bank which i loan from is offering daily rest also. i did verified with them that i can anytime dump in extra money to reduce my principle.

[totoro]

even if it is monthly rest, paying RM100 extra consistently every month will also nett you similar saving. you may not get the RM100 principle interest reduction on that month, but you will for the next month.

i don't know about this true daily rest or fake daily rest. as far as i know, most bank offer daily rest nowadays with the exception of Public bank and some that i may not aware of. Hong Leong bank which i loan from is offering daily rest also. i did verified with them that i can anytime dump in extra money to reduce my principle.Take note - daily interest on your savings earns u more, daily interest on your debts means u owe more!

For chimera11 who is a businessman, having a daily rests helps because it reduces your principal amount whenever you make additional payments. for us on monthly salaries, monthly rest is just as well.

UOB will not reduce principal for that RM1, because they have a clause that deposits to reduce principal will need a minimum RM1000 amount. I took the UOB loan.

Some banks do not offer automatic reduction of principal for additional deposits, you have to write in a letter notifying them of your intention.

For fixed rate loans, get AIA's 6.25%. You can ask me if you need more info on this. I did some research on this when I was shopping for my housing loan, and also because I help people get AIA's housing loan. ;)

For the longest loan tenure in town, get Public Bank's 40 years (up to age 70).

You have to consider which is your biggest concern? Financial stability? Steady or irregular payments? Low monthly installment commitments? Redraw and overdraft facilities? BLR stability? Ability to negotiate loan in the future? Refinancing? Terms and conditions, bonds, and penalties? Customer service and support? Accessibility and convenience (next door to your house?)? Or the plain-vanilla lowest rates in town?

[alexcttan]

what about refinancing the housing loan....any good recommendation??

[Haagendazs77]

In LG2, the fish ponds are MUCH MUCH bigger !!! covering nearly 80% of the car park !!

These few days not raining so all my fishes dead already, pond dried out, this has better be solve permanently or else I'll put in pirahnas next time..... :p

[Haagendazs77]

****.... charge interest???? I never heard maintenance fee also got interest !!! they are really leechhhhh...

I do not think Management have the right to charge interest, it's still in May, and the charges are for May and June, first what gives them the right to collect the June's maintenance, we're now still in May, why charge interest?!! :mad: The Protem committee of the RA need to do something about this... :mad: KMC Management is really "jia lat" leh....money they in advance, when we complaint, they say wait until another person complaint then only can take action and try to delay, can we charge them back interest for not doing their job???

[kennethlhm]

"Heavy rain" in my 2nd bathroom just now. Water leaking seriously in my 2nd bathroom. I was there just now when it happens. Go down to mgmt office get some1 up to check. The indo worker said is some cap dropped out or something else. Fix it back already. But the ceiling board is fully wet. So fill the defeat form again. Give them 1 set of key. Dunno wat water is that...

[kennethlhm]

I do not think Management have the right to charge interest, it's still in May, and the charges are for May and June, first what gives them the right to collect the June's maintenance, we're now still in May, why charge interest?!! :mad: The Protem committee of the RA need to do something about this... :mad: KMC Management is really "jia lat" leh....money they in advance, when we complaint, they say wait until another person complaint then only can take action and try to delay, can we charge them back interest for not doing their job???

They collecting the $ quarterly

[cordy]

Hi neighbours,

I would like to make a commendation of a security guard whom I encountered today while in KMC premises.

I was doing the usual path of approaching neighbours & inquiring whether they are aware of RA or the forum. Fyi, I find many are not aware of both. Along the way, I noticed one security guard was looking at me suspiciously and approached me.

He asked me sternly what am I doing here. Maybe he thought I am a salesperson or something. For he saw me walking around, with a pen and some papers. Then jotting something after talking to the neighbours. ( if u r wondering what "something", emails lar.. :P)

So, I explained to him what I am doing and that I am also an owner too. He immediately became apologetic, but I thanked him. When he looked surprised, I explained to him that it shows he is doing his JOB. :D

We should take note of such security guards in our KMC. His name is Maran.( I hope I didn't spell his name wrongly) There should be more of his kind safeguarding our KMC security! :D

Appreciatively yours,

Cordy

[alexcttan]

The Protem committee of the RA need to do something about this... :mad: KMC Management is really "jia lat" leh....money they in advance, when we complaint, they say wait until another person complaint then only can take action and try to delay, can we charge them back interest for not doing their job???

Protem committee can't do much if there are no support from the owners....for now we should get as many unit owners as possible to sign up as member. If everyone in the forum get 10 unit owners each, there are about 70 of us here...we should get all the 712 unit owners soon.

[SHiGE]

We should take note of such security guards in our KMC. His name is Maran.( I hope I didn't spell his name wrongly) There should be more of his kind safeguarding our KMC security! :D

speaking of security guard, most of them is either polite, courteous or friendly, while some have that didn't bother look and lazy around. there is one that is truly standout but i very dislike him. among the rest he seems to be the one that trying to act busy, act he is a leader, act that he is capable. i don't know whether he is acting or not.. but everytime time i see him, he is buzy doing something or ordering others.

what i don't like about him is, althought he seem to be devoted to his task, but he has no manners. he always talk to me as if i am guilty and interogating me. yes, as a security guard, you must be strong, and i know some ppl won't listen to you if you don't act fierce. but you can be polite along the way.

don't know if it is maran or not... :p... the one i'm referring is short, and fat.

[cordy]

what i don't like about him is, althought he seem to be devoted to his task, but he has no manners. he always talk to me as if i am guilty and interogating me. yes, as a security guard, you must be strong, and i know some ppl won't listen to you if you don't act fierce. but you can be polite along the way.

don't know if it is maran or not... :p... the one i'm referring is short, and fat.

Hi Shige!

The one I talked to has a moustache. THAT guy u r referring to, does he has one?

By da way, just to let other neighbours be aware. For the first time I saw a postman in our midst! Around 2+ or 3+pm, I saw a postman with a bike, posting the letters in individual mail boxes. :D

Today also bumped into current committee members/attendees of the Pro Tem meetings. One of them is "ricster" who gave me a shock initially. I was talking to the lady next to him, inquiring whether they are aware of RA/forum. He then in return inquiries me of my name. When mentioned, "Cordy", he looked at me in recognition & calling out my full name aloud. :eek: I was like, "who ARE u??! How come u knows even my surname?" He mentioned his name, which draw me a blur look till he mentioned, "I'm ricster". :D Plse to meet ya in person for the first time, neighbour! ;)

Another nice group I met, was near the gym area. Names are Lee, Ivy & Sim. i was wondering how come Sim was familiar till I recall she was the kind lady who offered Azrin her contact number, in the event she needed help when she was alone. Those who attended the 3rd meeting, wld remember Azrin/neeta's predicament, right? ;)

All in all, today is a rather good day, as I managed to speak to more than 15 neighbours. ALL are enthusiastic in wanting to know more of our Pro Tem Committee's activities and esp of our forum. :D

May KMC community thrives on stronger! *thumbs up*

Rgds,

Cordy

[oliviasy]

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/oliviasy/lizard2.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com"> <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/oliviasy/lizard1.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

Picture taken: May 15, 2005.
Location: Behind KM, LG2 carpark
Widlife: Monitor Lizard

I would've stepped out of the car to take a closer view & pic, but Mr Lizard might get the idea I'm trying to pull its tail and just nip my legs off :P So pls excuse the quality of the photo (camera phone).

Mr Lizard looks small in the photos, but it's approx 3-4ft in length (head to tail). It was slithering it's tougue in & out, knowing our car was just behind him, but it couldn't care less :D I guess it's "house" is beyond the bushes behind KM's fence bcos after we took the 2nd photo, it scurried towards the fence and squeezed through the fence holes and disappeared b4 I could get another shot. Mr Lizard wasn't gonna stay around for some soupy snacks LMAO!!!

P/S: Save the wildlife

[chinmin]

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/oliviasy/lizard2.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com"> <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/oliviasy/lizard1.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

Picture taken: May 15, 2005.
Location: Behind KM, LG2 carpark
Widlife: Monitor Lizard

I would've stepped out of the car to take a closer view & pic, but Mr Lizard might get the idea I'm trying to pull its tail and just nip my legs off :P So pls excuse the quality of the photo (camera phone).

Mr Lizard looks small in the photos, but it's approx 3-4ft in length (head to tail). It was slithering it's tougue in & out, knowing our car was just behind him, but it couldn't care less :D I guess it's "house" is beyond the bushes behind KM's fence bcos after we took the 2nd photo, it scurried towards the fence and squeezed through the fence holes and disappeared b4 I could get another shot. Mr Lizard wasn't gonna stay around for some soupy snacks LMAO!!!

P/S: Save the wildlife
Hmmm..mmmm....yummy....lizard soup.
The next time u see the lizard let me know immediately :)

[kennethlhm]

We can keep the lizard as pet :D

[Andryn02]

hi MORNING CORDY!

when is the RA meeting? would like to attend. so many times we miss it. hope that we can make it this time :D

[Jaytea]

We can keep the lizard as pet :D

or adopt him as our km mascot

[ricster]

Today also bumped into current committee members/attendees of the Pro Tem meetings. One of them is "ricster" who gave me a shock initially. I was talking to the lady next to him, inquiring whether they are aware of RA/forum. He then in return inquiries me of my name. When mentioned, "Cordy", he looked at me in recognition & calling out my full name aloud. :eek: I was like, "who ARE u??! How come u knows even my surname?" He mentioned his name, which draw me a blur look till he mentioned, "I'm ricster". :D Plse to meet ya in person for the first time, neighbour! ;)

Ha ha. Nice to meet you in person too, oh great poet!

Keep up the good work, Cordy. Our RA will be out very soon with such dedication from the committe members.

[Tarantula]

What happened to the Centrex intercom plan (phone & intercom package) we all discussed the other day?

i have spoken to Mr Kuan on this matter. He personally think that TM should approach the KM mgmt and explained abt this. Another thing is, I came to know that TM will pull 100 lines to KM and someone is already distributing the application form for the telephone lines to get the first 100 lines at their unit. So, not to complicate things, i would suggest everyone here to go for normal fixed line first. Get a phone line at your unit. Later, if Committee or Mgmt decide to change to Centrex, we all can just migrate to Centrex and retain the old phone no.

Regards..

[totoro]

We can keep the lizard as pet :Daiyaa... no pets (officially) allowed in KM wor... :p

[xcqfell]

late update bout my tv reception ^_^

agree that it's better reception now(with given antenna), but only manage to get 4 channel, just wanna share wif all of u :
1. tv1 - not clear, sometimes no sound, only annoying bzzz bzzz bzzz
2. tv2 - better but still not clear, with sound and bzzz bzzz
3. tv3 - not clear, sometimes change to blue screen *duh...
4. ntv7 - better but still not clear

overall, able to watch 2 channel only lorr...guess hv to live with it....wondering if the rest have the same??...hv a good monday to all

[ilovecath]

late update bout my tv reception ^_^

agree that it's better reception now(with given antenna), but only manage to get 4 channel, just wanna share wif all of u :
1. tv1 - not clear, sometimes no sound, only annoying bzzz bzzz bzzz
2. tv2 - better but still not clear, with sound and bzzz bzzz
3. tv3 - not clear, sometimes change to blue screen *duh...
4. ntv7 - better but still not clear

overall, able to watch 2 channel only lorr...guess hv to live with it....wondering if the rest have the same??...hv a good monday to all

wat about astro?

[kennethlhm]

want to ask abt aircon installation charges... rm190 to install a aircon consider cheap or not? including install the blower, compressor, paiping

[xcqfell]

cath: haven't install astro yet, thinking bout it (^_^)

[ilovecath]

can someone pls update if astro is available?? no internet no astro WILL DIE LA!!! :(

[how_wei]

for those who have stayed in, may i know where to get the gas? or you all bought and carried on your own?

[xcqfell]

i bought my gas tank from my previous condo, pay extra RM50 for new tank :)

[totoro]

can someone pls update if astro is available?? no internet no astro WILL DIE LA!!! :(my life improved a lot after i was forced to quit Astro and Internet... hehe... :p

[totoro]

i bought my gas tank from my previous condo, pay extra RM50 for new tank :)i forgot to bring my old gas tank over... paid RM55 (kena con) for new gas valve, RM20 for new 6ft piping, and RM50 as new tank deposit.

[Haagendazs77]

can someone pls update if astro is available?? no internet no astro WILL DIE LA!!! :(

Astro is already available, just plug and play, no installation charges, crystal clear pcitures and sound, only problem is when it rains.

[totoro]

Astro is already available, just plug and play, no installation charges, crystal clear pcitures and sound, only problem is when it rains.I wonder...

I wonder...

I wonder if anyone will notice if our neighbours come together and agree to apply a lot of 2nd astro decoders and 'share-share'... :D

[kennethlhm]

Astro is already available, just plug and play, no installation charges, crystal clear pcitures and sound, only problem is when it rains.

really? how to tune?

[ilovecath]

was at my unit doing final touch up (yes..finis painting finally) bump to my 'so called' neighbour opposite (not sure if there are my neighbour as their lot is still renovating), happily changed to swim wear with his children and jump to the pool. Hmmm, may be we should start making use of the facilities since we have paid maintenance fee. :o

[patches]

Anyone knows a good and cheap contact tat does plaster ceiling? How do they charge? Do they charge by per sq ft?

[how_wei]

i bought my gas tank from my previous condo, pay extra RM50 for new tank :)
does it mean no gas seller nearby?? or everything have to go out and get our own gas since no one is sending to our area yet

[Haagendazs77]

really? how to tune?

Kenneth, just pick a channel and tune lor.... which block you're in? If you need help with tuning, pls PM me. ;)

[ricster]

does it mean no gas seller nearby?? or everything have to go out and get our own gas since no one is sending to our area yet

I live in Tiara Kelana which is just beside KM. I order my gas by calling 017-6924761. He's an Indian fella. He's a regular in Tiara Kelana. So he has no issue with the guards there & will deliver straight to my doorstep. But I doubt he has ever delivered to KM before. Not sure also whether he'll face any problem with the guards. You can give him a call and try.

[how_wei]

I live in Tiara Kelana which is just beside KM. I order my gas by calling 017-6924761. He's an Indian fella. He's a regular in Tiara Kelana. So he has no issue with the guards there & will deliver straight to my doorstep. But I doubt he has ever delivered to KM before. Not sure also whether he'll face any problem with the guards. You can give him a call and try.

great then!! i will give it a try. Big Thank!!!

[Haagendazs77]

Lights and fans found to be on last night at 10pm, noone was using the hall, noticed this when taking a walk with my wife at around 10pm. I think whichever last person leaving the hall need to make sure all lights & fans are turned off, this should be our responsibilities, as a resident. :)

[totoro]

Lights and fans found to be on last night at 10pm, noone was using the hall, noticed this when taking a walk with my wife at around 10pm. I think whichever last person leaving the hall need to make sure all lights & fans are turned off, this should be our responsibilities, as a resident. :)badminton hall? i hear it's not locked, and the guards don't even have the keys... there are workers working on the hall... patching up cracks and corners... when I was playing there on Sat...

[Haagendazs77]

badminton hall? i hear it's not locked, and the guards don't even have the keys... there are workers working on the hall... patching up cracks and corners... when I was playing there on Sat...

Not sure about the workers, as when I was there at ~10pm+, no one was around, out of curiousity, posted the msg in this forum to understand better.

Do you know where the table tennis table located, can't seem to find it.

[totoro]

Michelle juz reminded me... you can get a free Astro decoder set if you spend above RM199 in a single receipt at Giant... including the one across the road from KMC.. ;)

[kennethlhm]

Kenneth, just pick a channel and tune lor.... which block you're in? If you need help with tuning, pls PM me. ;)

so we need a decoder lor. how abt the charges? every channel oso can watch?

[totoro]

do we need a decoder?Of course...

To get Astro you need:

1. an active subscription account with Astro (info sync'ed between Astro and your Smartcard) .. like ur phone SIM card.

2. a decoder .. like your mobile phone.

3. a dish .. like a mobile base station (GSM), (but more accurately is actually the antenna on your mobile phone laa... ;))

In our case, we have a master Astro dish, just like we have a Master Antenna for our TV (UHF / VHF).. and Radio (FM). So we only need the decoder and working Smartcard.

What channels you can watch depends on the package you choose with Astro in your subscription account la.

[kennethlhm]

so we only need to subscribe an astro a/c + 1 decoder. which is rm199. then up to us to subscribe wat package like dynasty...

[exiled_criminal]

so we only need to subscribe an astro a/c + 1 decoder. which is rm199. then up to us to subscribe wat package like dynasty...

there is a counter at Giant. RM99 only

[kennethlhm]

there is a counter at Giant. RM99 only

so decoder is rm99 only. how abt registration fee?

[totoro]

so decoder is rm99 only. how abt registration fee?dun believe there is any. for more info call Astro at 1-800-827-333. or visit http://www.astro.com.my

[kennethlhm]

dun believe there is any. for more info call Astro at 1-800-827-333. or visit http://www.astro.com.my

next week i got assignment @ astro
mayb can ask directly

[chinmin]

Michelle juz reminded me... you can get a free Astro decoder set if you spend above RM199 in a single receipt at Giant... including the one across the road from KMC.. ;)
Yes I saw the promotion at Giant last night. The thing is if we are sharing the Astro dish there won't be any installation charges mah right? It is just plug and play.
One more thing about this dish sharing, I currently have this problem in Casa Damansara whereby some channels cannot be watched (Black Screen). For example if you want to watch channel 10 (Hallmark), you have to scroll up and down the channels a few times than only the programme will appear. I have asked Casa Management regarding this and they said that the centralised Astro dish is not powerful enough to accomodate everyone. Dunno whether this is true or not and also if it is true than will we face the problem in KM?

[totoro]

Yes I saw the promotion at Giant last night. The thing is if we are sharing the Astro dish there won't be any installation charges mah right? It is just plug and play.
One more thing about this dish sharing, I currently have this problem in Casa Damansara whereby some channels cannot be watched (Black Screen). For example if you want to watch channel 10 (Hallmark), you have to scroll up and down the channels a few times than only the programme will appear. I have asked Casa Management regarding this and they said that the centralised Astro dish is not powerful enough to accomodate everyone. Dunno whether this is true or not and also if it is true than will we face the problem in KM?if such problem occur, it's the management's responsibility to replace or tune the dish and / or add more. otherwise we'd be putting up dishes outside our balconies instead.

[totoro]

is it me or have they replaced some of the security guards? at nights especially i see a bunch of skinny looking boys, and i do mean really young boys, wearing uniform at the guardhouse, and quite a few new faces.

[cordy]

hi MORNING CORDY!

when is the RA meeting? would like to attend. so many times we miss it. hope that we can make it this time :D

Afternoon Andryn02!

Er, dunno ler. I also missed a few meetings lor. :p I guess Kuan will announce to us later when will be the next meeting?

Ha ha. Nice to meet you in person too, oh great poet!

Keep up the good work, Cordy. Our RA will be out very soon with such dedication from the committe members.

Aiya..dun praise too much of my poetry lar. Shy ler. :o Nanti my head goes off to da sky! :p

For those who think I purposely go to KMC to spread the news of RA/forum? It is just that whenever we are in KMC, it is usually due to seeing contractors or have to be in the mgmt office or visiting neighbours lor. Since I am there on site, might as well kill 2 birds with one stone. :D

[Haagendazs77]

is it me or have they replaced some of the security guards? at nights especially i see a bunch of skinny looking boys, and i do mean really young boys, wearing uniform at the guardhouse, and quite a few new faces.

I understand from the guards that they are running in 2 shifts, 10am-10pm and 10pm-10am, 5 security guards in each shift. I noticed some don't wear their uniform especially at night.

[totoro]

hi guys, after the stolen shoes incident... i am sourcing for quotes for built-in shoe racks. :D anyone who has experience or have some quotes pls do PM me... TQ!

[THY]

Hi all,

Just want to share some bad experiences encountered by my friend to her unit, and to forewarn those that are undertaking / intend to undertake renovation. Her 2 unfortunately encounterments as follows:

Incident 1
Some time after the final inspection of her unit, someone went into my unit to heck the walls without her knowing it. Judging from the way the walls were hecked, it looked like a plaster ceiling was intended to be installed in the living hall. However, she has yet to start any renovation ! :mad:

When she complaint to the management office, she was informed that someone could have entered the wrong unit to do the renovation ! But she has not passed on the key to any contractor. And the management happened to hold one of the key to her unit. Fortunately, management was willing to plaster the walls back for her after much fuming arguments.

Incident 2
This happened after the management had plustered her wall. While her wiring man was working on her unit, one Indon came into her unit (door was not locked) and hecked the tiles of the split level steps before she could even stopped him. :confused: When questioned, the indon claimed that his boss asked him to do it.

This time when my friend went and complaint to the management office, they refused to remedy it. They claimed no responsibility over such work. And my poor friend had to incur unnecessary cost to patch up the steps.

Anyone intending to do renovation, do take extra care! And I think it's better to change the lock to the door as well in case management had the master key.

[exiled_criminal]

Hi all,

Just want to share some bad experiences encountered by my friend to her unit, and to forewarn those that are undertaking / intend to undertake renovation. Her 2 unfortunately encounterments as follows:


This time when my friend went and complaint to the management office, they refused to remedy it. They claimed no responsibility over such work. And my poor friend had to incur unnecessary cost to patch up the steps.

Anyone intending to do renovation, do take extra care! And I think it's better to change the lock to the door as well in case management had the master key.
Is this a joke? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[totoro]

Just want to share some bad experiences encountered by my friend to her unit, and to forewarn those that are undertaking / intend to undertake renovation. Her 2 unfortunately encounterments as follows:
if unit not yet handed over, and the developer has the keys, then of course he has to bear responsibility for everything.

if unit is handed over, and developer doesn't have the keys, and the unit is left open... then... susah lar... best to find out who the contractor boss is and ask him what happened... if his fault, make him fix it.

[THY]

Is this a joke? :confused: :confused: :confused:

This is real incidents happened to one person!! The reason why I have put this message up on behalf of my friend was because it's inconvenient for her to access to internet.


if unit is handed over, and developer doesn't have the keys, and the unit is left open... then... susah lar... best to find out who the contractor boss is and ask him what happened... if his fault, make him fix it.if unit is handed over, and developer doesn't have the keys, and the unit is left open... then... susah lar... best to find out who the contractor boss is and ask him what happened... if his fault, make him fix it.

First incident happened before handover. Second incident happened after. I don't think the contractor was at real fault. Because he didn't know whether my friend had engaged someone else to do the tiling. He is just responsible for wiring.

Some people may engaged different contractors for different works. And most of us don't have the luxury of time to supervise the reno work. I just want to make a point, ie to make sure that you have properly communicated to your contractor and inform him of any expected work to be carried out by other contractors and when the work is expected to be carried out.

[boiling mud]

Actually more sad that the theft can happen with 24-hours security and with supposedly tight controls on who can come in and out of the condo.

Heh-heh.... security @ KMC ?
I got a call from my curtain gal to confirm the appointment to measure up the windows and sliding door. Just out of curiosity, I asked whether she had done any assignment @ KMC and any problem coming in... That chirpy gal said NO PROBLEM COMING IN AND OUT AT ALL..... Then.... the grilles man walked in....

End of story.

[boiling mud]

dear all regulars,

juz a quick question, anyone pay the may-june maintenance fee yet?
i dunno to pay or not to pay.

Cath, pay first so not to let 'em make one single sen more from you.... THEN WE MAKE NOISE COLLECTIVELT TO GET REFUND??
:D

[boiling mud]

can't we negotiate not to pay yet until (or at least) the car park flood issue is settle? and what about the gym?? missing equipment?? and because of all this we still have to pay??

Precisely... we pay for good service. That's one score we have to level at 'em. They take our money.... THEY DELIVER!
:mad:

[boiling mud]

i agree with u to write a letter to management... but that's still not good enough..

the best way.. is still... to call Buletin Utama TV3.. get them here to do some news coverage... then u see what happen the next morning...

Aiyomahhh... so drastic. Someone at the site office hinted to a friend if we kept this Internet Forum up and complained and complained... our property value would drop and "YOU WOULD FIND IT HARD TO SELL IT". Oh well, that sounded like a veiled threat to my faint-hearted friend. But I think opinions differ, we bought the 'flats' here to live in... and some got so cheesed off that they changed their mind and wanted to sell. And why would people sell their new homes so quickly if everything (or almost everything) was in order? Something has to be done...

[wong.kok.wai]

Someone at the site office hinted to a friend if we kept this Internet Forum up and complained and complained... our property value would drop and "YOU WOULD FIND IT HARD TO SELL IT".

They used the same reason... To try and shut the Putera / Puteri tenants up...

[totoro]

They used the same reason... To try and shut the Putera / Puteri tenants up...Well, I have no intention of selling my unit.

I do intend however, to see that the developer, management, owners and residents all play their responsible role in making this condo a success and desirable place to stay in.

The management collects a lot of money each year, we need to ensure our maintenance fees are being put to the correct use. We also must push for our strata titles to be issued smoothly and quickly, unlike neighbouring condos that have waited over 10 years (and are still waiting?), so that we can manage our own condos independently.

Of course, in posting onto this online forum, it would be good to share information and offer solutions, rather than just people bashing or venting frustrations...? We (including the developer and management) can all come together and work something out to everyone's benefit.

[duxz]

Aiyomahhh... so drastic. Someone at the site office hinted to a friend if we kept this Internet Forum up and complained and complained... our property value would drop and "YOU WOULD FIND IT HARD TO SELL IT".

Hard for us to sell? we can sell and lose afew thousand.... but if they are shown on TV and well know for thier nonsense they will lose millions. So... who is on the losing end???

[totoro]

Hard for us to sell? we can sell and lose afew thousand.... but if they are shown on TV and well know for thier nonsense they will lose millions. So... who is on the losing end???Sometimes we can get better results if we reason calmly and fairly, and accept some give and take.

[teen kosong]

Sometimes we can get better results if we reason calmly and fairly, and accept some give and take.

I echo you, Mr. Totoro. :)

Regards.

[yeeyang]

my personal recommendation is to take frm a bank offering daily rest interest(DRI) calculation term loan (TL).......frm wat i know there is currently 3 banks offering purely on this which are Citibank, OUB and OCBC. Why daily rest??? B'coz ppl like me are not self employed. we get a basic salary every mth. imagine if your installment is RM 1000 per/mth. If you pay RM 1000 today for your installment and later if u have excess of RM 100 (after minus all your expenses), u may pay down your principle if you initially opt for DRI TL. wat it means is your principle (initial borrowed sum) would be reduced further by RM 100. if u systemactically pay more than your installment every mth, u may finish paying up faster than the initially agreed tenure (save $$$ on interest). If u take a bank offering TL on a mthly rest interest calculation (ie. besides all the banks above) even u pay more on your installment, the bank would not take into account the additional payment as a principle reduction basis. It would consider as advance payment for the next mth installment. so in short, u pay more every mth but u may not cut years off your loan tenure. pls don't be taken by other banks like Stand Chart and HSBC "claims" to offer on DRI but they are actually not. Why??? try to ask them one simple ques. if my installment is RM 1000 per mth, and i pay RM1000 today and RM1 tomolo. Wat would happen to the additional RM1 that i paid. a lot of banks would say they would not reduce the principle by an additional RM1 but if the banks really are DRI basis they would certainly reduce your principle even by paying an additional RM1..... try citibank, they would certainly reduce your principle amt borrowed by an additional RM 1 extra.......no other banks in town can do wonders like this... if u have any doubts on my claims try to ask your banker on the above ques.........see wat they tell uuuuuuu

just my 2 cents of advice.......... ;)
Well, currently i already get the approval from Maybank and EON bank.

1) Is this both bank accept extra money pay per month and will deduct the principal amount?
2) How about the redraw facility? Let say if we get Rm 20k bonus, an we pump in the money to reduce the pricipal and save the total years of tenure?
3) What do you mean by team loan?
4) A lot of bank do offer the daily interest now, is it good?
5) Well, maybank is offering 3.88% for 1st year, 5% for 2nd year, BLR + 0.20% there after, zero entry cost, is it ok? I am considering Maybank.
6) EON bank offer something like Stardard Charter "Mortage One". Daily rest as well, non-zero entry cost, BLR + 0.5% for the interest.
7) UOB is offering just now as well, 1.5% for 1st year, 5% for 2nd year, BLR + 0.15% thereafter. Non zero-entry cost. (Legal fees around RM 3894.
8) Which one is the best offer. Please advice. Thank you KMC neighbour!

[how_wei]

i called SMI this morning to ask about the last 2.5% of the release, they said need to wait for the strata title. but from the threads here, it seems that we might need to wait for a very long time to get the title. does it mean we need to serve our interest until we got the title? the lady i talked to recommended me to talk to my bank so that i can start paying the loan (since they have released 97.5%), anyone have talked to the bank and start paying now?

[totoro]

i called SMI this morning to ask about the last 2.5% of the release, they said need to wait for the strata title. but from the threads here, it seems that we might need to wait for a very long time to get the title. does it mean we need to serve our interest until we got the title? the lady i talked to recommended me to talk to my bank so that i can start paying the loan (since they have released 97.5%), anyone have talked to the bank and start paying now?if i'm not mistaken (I hope i am), i had used the panel lawyer and i had to show that my bank had released the last 5% of the 100% already, in order to collect my keys. i've to go back and check my docs, because I have been wondering about this.

In our Schedule of Payments to the developer, the lawyer is supposed to hold on to the last 5% until some time (6 and 18 months) after the VP... before releasing it to the developer, but in this case the developer juz snapped it up immediately?

i didn't choose to service interest until completion or full disbursement wor... just started paying principal immediately.

[oliviasy]

how is it you still hv 2.5%? i thought complete drawdown oredi?

[duxz]

Sometimes we can get better results if we reason calmly and fairly, and accept some give and take.

sigh.... no comments!

[SHiGE]

yeeyang,

Maybank and EON is not in my list of prefer choice last time when i shop for housing loan. back then i went to HSBC, CitiBank, HLB, RHB, UOB, Public bank, AmFinance, StdChart.

HSBC - efficient and professional. my favourite.
CitiBank - best rate of all and most flexible.
HLB - good. free credit card for whole tenure :D
RHB - rate slightly better than HLB. but heard from fren track record not good. payment delay and sort.
UOB - normal. FORCE!! you to sign up their credit card for entire tenure but they don't give u free annual fee. turn me off real bad. :mad:
PBB - monthly rest. out of the question.
AMF - the person that served me when i was querying has that 'tak kisah tak apa' attitude. i stood up in the middle of the conversation and just left. their rate is not that good also.
StdChart - their MorgageOne advertising is misleading. cheap advertising tactic to fool customer. turm me off real bad also. :mad:

I ended up taking from HLB. please be aware that rate changes. what i mean cheapest or most expensive above is applicable 9 months ago. it may varies now.

As for your question.

1. Not sure. But i can say almost all bank allow you to do that.

2. Most bank can do that.

3. I think it should be Term Loan. meaning your loan duration.

4. better than monthly rest. why not.

5. if my understanding is correct, all those zero moving cost is for refinancing only. i could be wrong. someone plz enlighting us.

6,7,8. to find the best, you have to get all the offer from them. but i can say most bank offer similar offer. althought you might see very differential rate, but if you calculate the whole tenure for total interest pay, most of them more or less the same. so, to me, their service and attitude is more important. after all what is RM5k extra interest over a 30yr?

it is important to get a good reputation bank. I got to know that HSBC was the first to release payment to SMI everytime during loan releases to SMI. my HLB was late by 5 days during the last release compare to HSBC but luckily still within the deadline. some owners here have to pay few thousands of late payment interest because of their bank or bank's lawyer fault.

but if every sen matters to you. then get all the offer and go www.ambg.com.my and use their multi-tier loan calculator and get the total interest paid for all bank and choose the cheapest.

[DnA]

sigh.... no comments!

I believe Totoro is right. No point getiing ourselves all worked up. We should try to get along with Mgmt. I know sometimes they can get on your nerves really bad but ultimately the guy is just doing his job. We can explain to him our concerns. Try to also understand his situation. If you are the Manager and you have 700+ ppl calling on you everyday :eek:

But I do agree with the comments that soe of you have made about the quality of service that the Mgmt. is providing/ has provided to date. Maybe things will be better resolved once the RA is up. Then we can collectively talk to the Mgmt.

Some other condo mgmt. are even worse than ours. Just look @ Sri Putramas. Ended up being featured in the Star. Doubt if anyone wants their home featured in the local daily for the wrong reasons.

Anyway, just my 2 cents worth of opinion. :D

[totoro]

HSBC - efficient and professional. my favourite.
CitiBank - best rate of all and most flexible.
HLB - good. free credit card for whole tenure :D
RHB - rate slightly better than HLB. but heard from fren track record not good. payment delay and sort.
UOB - normal. FORCE!! you to sign up their credit card for entire tenure but they don't give u free annual fee. turn me off real bad. :mad:
PBB - monthly rest. out of the question.

Citibank - least flexible. From my fren - "They are so strict on their rules and regulations and policies that they end up refusing to disburse progressive payments and keep asking for this letter, that letter... and owners kena late payment charges."
UOB - I cancelled that card after the first year.
PBB - I mentioned before, monthly rest is a disadvantage only if you intend to make payments at irregular times (more than once a month) very often. If you pay once a month, it works perfectly well, and in fact better than daily rest, that compounds the daily interest owed to them every day.

[how_wei]

if i'm not mistaken (I hope i am), i had used the panel lawyer and i had to show that my bank had released the last 5% of the 100% already, in order to collect my keys. i've to go back and check my docs, because I have been wondering about this.

In our Schedule of Payments to the developer, the lawyer is supposed to hold on to the last 5% until some time (6 and 18 months) after the VP... before releasing it to the developer, but in this case the developer juz snapped it up immediately?

i didn't choose to service interest until completion or full disbursement wor... just started paying principal immediately.

according to my bank, they haven't received the last invoice from developer, so they haven't released the last 2.5%... have to check my S&P again to confirm though... sigh

anyway i am a late buyer, bought it june last year... anyone have this problem also?

[DnA]

sigh.... no comments!

I believe Totoro is right. No point getiing ourselves all worked up. We should try to get along with Mgmt. I know sometimes they can get on your nerves really bad but ultimately the guy is just doing his job. We can explain to him our concerns. Try to also understand his situation. If you are the Manager and you have 700+ ppl calling on you everyday :eek:

But I do agree with the comments that soe of you have made about the quality of service that the Mgmt. is providing/ has provided to date. Maybe things will be better resolved once the RA is up. Then we can collectively talk to the Mgmt.

Some other condo mgmt. are even worse than ours. Just look @ Sri Putramas. Ended up being featured in the Star. Doubt if anyone wants their home featured in the local daily for the wrong reasons.

Anyway, just my 2 cents worth of opinion. :D

[SHiGE]

Citibank - least flexible. From my fren - "They are so strict on their rules and regulations and policies that they end up refusing to disburse progressive payments and keep asking for this letter, that letter... and owners kena late payment charges."
UOB - I cancelled that card after the first year.
PBB - I mentioned before, monthly rest is a disadvantage only if you intend to make payments at irregular times (more than once a month) very often. If you pay once a month, it works perfectly well, and in fact better than daily rest, that compounds the daily interest owed to them every day.
Citibank. yes it is very strict. in fact they has the highest salary:liabiliies ratio requirement. they refused to loan to me even for 30yrs tenure if i just apply using one name. i can get the loan from other banks for just 25yrs with single name. i'm not sure about the strictness in disbursement. what i meant is their installment payment, extra payment, withdrawal can be done easily and with just a ATM card without any notice given to the bank.

UOB, i was told that i cannot cancel the card!!

PBB, yes monthly vs daily rest not much difference to wages earner. but daily rest still better. and what if u become a boss 10 yrs later? hahaha.. anyway, if you just make installment payment without withdrawing.. owning the bank with monthly rest and daily rest make no difference.

hey totoro, you serve principle since start. wanna ask you, do you pay the highest repayment amount (ur 3rd yr) straight or start with the 1st yr repayment amount? my bank told me that if i want to start straight, i have to pay the highest installment amount which is my 3rd yr. but said, the interest still remain the same. the excess will just go to principle. i straight away serve principle.

and my bank still holding the last 2.5%.

[DnA]

Well, currently i already get the approval from Maybank and EON bank.

1) Is this both bank accept extra money pay per month and will deduct the principal amount?
2) How about the redraw facility? Let say if we get Rm 20k bonus, an we pump in the money to reduce the pricipal and save the total years of tenure?
3) What do you mean by team loan?
4) A lot of bank do offer the daily interest now, is it good?
5) Well, maybank is offering 3.88% for 1st year, 5% for 2nd year, BLR + 0.20% there after, zero entry cost, is it ok? I am considering Maybank.
6) EON bank offer something like Stardard Charter "Mortage One". Daily rest as well, non-zero entry cost, BLR + 0.5% for the interest.
7) UOB is offering just now as well, 1.5% for 1st year, 5% for 2nd year, BLR + 0.15% thereafter. Non zero-entry cost. (Legal fees around RM 3894.
8) Which one is the best offer. Please advice. Thank you KMC neighbour!

Just anor point to ponder for HSBC. Their loan finance requires you to pay I believe every 14 days (2 weeks) on the dot. Which means you end up with 26 pmts per annum as opposed to 12 monthly payments for the monthly rest financing. That's partly the reason being for your savings in interest for HSBC loan as you repay them faster than you would using the monthly rest method (12 x 2 = 24 repayments as opposed to 26 by HSBC.

My suggestion - look at your income level. If you are a salaried employee who gets his salary on a monthly basis go for the monthly rest loan. Otherwise, if you can are in business and have spare cash from time to time then go for the daily rest - be it Citibank, Stanchart, etc. it should be the same in terms of cost so maybe to consider the level of service provided (in that case).

Daily rest will hurt you in the long run if you get your income monthly as the interest is compounded daily as opposed to monthly compounding.

Example

borrow Rm100,000 interest rate is 6.4%

Effective interest on Daily rest method

= [[1 + (6.4% / 365 )]to the power of 365] - 1
= 6.61%

Effective interest on monthly rest method

= [[1 + (6.4% / 12)] to the power of 12] - 1
= 6.59%

Hope that helps you ;)

[SHiGE]

borrow Rm100,000 interest rate is 6.4%

Effective interest on Daily rest method

= [[1 + (6.4% / 365 )]to the power of 365] - 1
= 6.61%

Effective interest on monthly rest method

= [[1 + (6.4% / 12)] to the power of 12] - 1
= 6.59%

Hope that helps you ;)
that is just RM20 annually diff for a 100K loan? :)

HSBC fortnightly repayment scheme is actually optional. actually nothing special la.. another fancy model for extra repayment only. rhb also have something similar. they have this single tier repayment amount model which translate to extra repayment also.

[boiling mud]

But I do agree with the comments that some of you have made about the quality of service that the Mgmt. is providing/ has provided to date. Maybe things will be better resolved once the RA is up. Then we can collectively talk to the Mgmt.
Anyway, just my 2 cents worth of opinion. :D

I don't think anyone of us is being confrontational here. (NO unsolicited PM, please, about this remark, thanks) However, given the tardiness we are receiving and the below-expectation amenities, something must be done to address the issues. I don't think it is equally constructive for the developer to keep mum and let Richard, Lee and Bala take the flaks. If there are SMI blokes living in the condo complex now, they MUST HAVE KNOWN about the problems the residents are facing. Have they stepped forward to offer some options?? No good just having some 'selected' floors upkept spit-and-polish just because some blokes live there. It is the WHOLE presentation and satisfaction from ALL that counts. How did we get here in the first place???? WE PAID GOOD HONEST MONEY, and we expect the qualities that commiserate the amount we paid for and will be paying for for years to come. 'Take the money and run to the bank'??? Oh-ho-ho.... not that easy, men!! However, I do agree we must take stock of all issues discussed at this forum and forward them to those @ that dreadfully inconveniently located Phileo place and seek redress. What say you? :cool: Of course, to give our condo the wide coverage and publicity is an option when reasoning fails. There are always better properties to buy down the road in the future..... :p

[duxz]

I don't think anyone of us is being confrontational here. (NO unsolicited PM, please, about this remark, thanks) However, given the tardiness we are receiving and the below-expectation amenities, something must be done to address the issues. I don't think it is equally constructive for the developer to keep mum and let Richard, Lee and Bala take the flaks. If there are SMI blokes living in the condo complex now, they MUST HAVE KNOWN about the problems the residents are facing. Have they stepped forward to offer some options?? No good just having some 'selected' floors upkept spit-and-polish just because some blokes live there. It is the WHOLE presentation and satisfaction from ALL that counts. How did we get here in the first place???? WE PAID GOOD HONEST MONEY, and we expect the qualities that commiserate the amount we paid for and will be paying for for years to come. 'Take the money and run to the bank'??? Oh-ho-ho.... not that easy, men!! However, I do agree we must take stock of all issues discussed at this forum and forward them to those @ that dreadfully inconveniently located Phileo place and seek redress. What say you? :cool: Of course, to give our condo the wide coverage and publicity is an option when reasoning fails. There are always better properties to buy down the road in the future..... :p

Hmmmmm now i know why my floor havent been swept for weeks.... hmmmm now i know there isnt a bloke staying at my floor.

[exiled_criminal]

Hmmmmm now i know why my floor havent been swept for weeks.... hmmmm now i know there isnt a bloke staying at my floor.

mine floor as well :mad:

[totoro]

hey totoro, you serve principle since start. wanna ask you, do you pay the highest repayment amount (ur 3rd yr) straight or start with the 1st yr repayment amount? my bank told me that if i want to start straight, i have to pay the highest installment amount which is my 3rd yr. but said, the interest still remain the same. the excess will just go to principle. i straight away serve principle.good question.

actually... i only started paying instalment in my 3rd year, when construction reached my floor. i planned it that way because my loan disbursement started at that part of the progressive payment (the rest was paid in cash), so I escaped from beginning my loan repayment for quite some time, as mine was the top floor unit... :D

downside, is... missed out on all those 1st n 2nd year low low rates, but i am a firm believer that paying nothing is better than paying low rates... :D

[alexcttan]

just send this web site to the boss of SMI...anyohe has SMI's bosses email??

[totoro]

that is just RM20 annually diff for a 100K loan? :)eh, fren... it's the same case that applies for your daily rest ler... if you paid extra on the 15th of the month, you:
- incur additional daily interest between 1st-15th
- only save on the difference between the interest charged during 16th-30th on a daily vs monthly rest (is that much less than RM20? ;))
- have to fork out that additional amount to be paid on the 15th

What I mean is, if you paid an additional amount in the middle of the month, the only difference between daily and month rest, is that for the monthly rest, your interest and principal calculations will only be adjusted accordingly on the 1st of the next month. How much daily interest being charged can you save if you pay on the 2nd vs the 31st of the month? Also, if you can pay that amount on the 2nd, why not the 1st? ;)

The difference between daily rest or monthly rest is actually negligible to most of us, and the important point is that paying additional amounts to your loan account will definitely reduce your total interest paid and/or shorten your loan repayment period.

Reverse the situation, imagine you have a savings account with a bank, would you prefer daily or monthly compounded interest? :)

[SHiGE]

good question.

actually... i only started paying instalment in my 3rd year, when construction reached my floor. i planned it that way because my loan disbursement started at that part of the progressive payment (the rest was paid in cash), so I escaped from beginning my loan repayment for quite some time, as mine was the top floor unit... :D

downside, is... missed out on all those 1st n 2nd year low low rates, but i am a firm believer that paying nothing is better than paying low rates... :D
ehh.. don't understand. you mean u didn't pay interest for your first 2 yrs because you use your downpayment to cover that? only when 3rd yr the bank disbursement exceeded your downpayment?

[SHiGE]

eh, fren... it's the same case that applies for your daily rest ler... if you paid extra on the 15th of the month, you:
- incur additional daily interest between 1st-15th
- only save on the difference between the interest charged during 16th-30th on a daily vs monthly rest (is that much less than RM20? ;))
- have to fork out that additional amount to be paid on the 15th

What I mean is, if you paid an additional amount in the middle of the month, the only difference between daily and month rest, is that for the monthly rest, your interest and principal calculations will only be adjusted accordingly on the 1st of the next month. How much daily interest being charged can you save if you pay on the 2nd vs the 31st of the month? Also, if you can pay that amount on the 2nd, why not the 1st? ;)

The difference between daily rest or monthly rest is actually negligible to most of us, and the important point is that paying additional amounts to your loan account will definitely reduce your total interest paid and/or shorten your loan repayment period.

Reverse the situation, imagine you have a savings account with a bank, would you prefer daily or monthly compounded interest? :)
yalah.. i know la.. i know daily and monthly rest not rili much difference unless we are crazy enuf to make 10-20 payments a month. but is kinda 'siok' to think that you can do that if you rili crazy enuf.. haha.. :D

[totoro]

ehh.. don't understand. you mean u didn't pay interest for your first 2 yrs because you use your downpayment to cover that? only when 3rd yr the bank disbursement exceeded your downpayment?something like that, but not really downpayment... basically, when the invoice came for the 2nd, 3rd progressive payments, i went to SMI and wrote a cheque...

[totoro]

what i meant is their installment payment, extra payment, withdrawal can be done easily and with just a ATM card without any notice given to the bank.yup... i like re-draw facilities too! however, the alternative of course, is either to refinance, or to take an overdraft.

Check the loan rates, normally we are charged an additional 'premium' for the flexibility provided. If normally we can get BLR+0% for most of our loan tenure from our simple term loan packages, the more flexible packages will incur BLR+0.15% or BLR+0.5% instead.

2 sides of the coin to everything... :D

but anyhow, i think this thread shud be left to discussions regarding KMC. I'm open to PM's.

[yeeyang]

yeeyang,

Maybank and EON is not in my list of prefer choice last time when i shop for housing loan. back then i went to HSBC, CitiBank, HLB, RHB, UOB, Public bank, AmFinance, StdChart.

HSBC - efficient and professional. my favourite.
CitiBank - best rate of all and most flexible.
HLB - good. free credit card for whole tenure :D
RHB - rate slightly better than HLB. but heard from fren track record not good. payment delay and sort.
UOB - normal. FORCE!! you to sign up their credit card for entire tenure but they don't give u free annual fee. turn me off real bad. :mad:
PBB - monthly rest. out of the question.
AMF - the person that served me when i was querying has that 'tak kisah tak apa' attitude. i stood up in the middle of the conversation and just left. their rate is not that good also.
StdChart - their MorgageOne advertising is misleading. cheap advertising tactic to fool customer. turm me off real bad also. :mad:

I ended up taking from HLB. please be aware that rate changes. what i mean cheapest or most expensive above is applicable 9 months ago. it may varies now.

As for your question.

1. Not sure. But i can say almost all bank allow you to do that.

2. Most bank can do that.

3. I think it should be Term Loan. meaning your loan duration.

4. better than monthly rest. why not.

5. if my understanding is correct, all those zero moving cost is for refinancing only. i could be wrong. someone plz enlighting us.

6,7,8. to find the best, you have to get all the offer from them. but i can say most bank offer similar offer. althought you might see very differential rate, but if you calculate the whole tenure for total interest pay, most of them more or less the same. so, to me, their service and attitude is more important. after all what is RM5k extra interest over a 30yr?

it is important to get a good reputation bank. I got to know that HSBC was the first to release payment to SMI everytime during loan releases to SMI. my HLB was late by 5 days during the last release compare to HSBC but luckily still within the deadline. some owners here have to pay few thousands of late payment interest because of their bank or bank's lawyer fault.

but if every sen matters to you. then get all the offer and go www.ambg.com.my and use their multi-tier loan calculator and get the total interest paid for all bank and choose the cheapest.
Thx for all the comment.

1)Well, can we start paying the pricipal since the loan start?
2)Well, the release of the payment is depends on which floor SMI construct ur unit right?
3)If our unit is at the top floor , so the release of the payment to SMI will be later compare to those who purchase the lower floor unit, am I right?
4)If we have addtional money, less say we get Bonus around RM 10k, is it possible for us to pump in the money to the loan? Any advice? Is it possible to withdraw back when we need it? Any addtional cost or penalty?


FYI, just look at today STAR, AIA is offering BLR + 0% for 30 years loan...(but only for complete property......)

[totoro]

Thx for all the comment.

1)Well, can we start paying the pricipal since the loan start?
yes
2)Well, the release of the payment is depends on which floor SMI construct ur unit right?
for some parts only
3)If our unit is at the top floor , so the release of the payment to SMI will be later compare to those who purchase the lower floor unit, am I right?
for some parts only, aiseh, so fast learn my trick d...
4)If we have addtional money, less say we get Bonus around RM 10k, is it possible for us to pump in the money to the loan? Any advice? Is it possible to withdraw back when we need it? Any addtional cost or penalty?
it really depends on which loan package you take, some do, some do not, please do shop around

FYI, just look at today STAR, AIA is offering BLR + 0% for 30 years loan...(but only for complete property......)
also 6.25% fixed rate for 30 years. they stopped offering BLR+0% for a while, but decided to offer it again recently. :D

[SHiGE]

yup... i like re-draw facilities too! however, the alternative of course, is either to refinance, or to take an overdraft.

Check the loan rates, normally we are charged an additional 'premium' for the flexibility provided. If normally we can get BLR+0% for most of our loan tenure from our simple term loan packages, the more flexible packages will incur BLR+0.15% or BLR+0.5% instead.

2 sides of the coin to everything... :D

but anyhow, i think this thread shud be left to discussions regarding KMC. I'm open to PM's.
i thought of that also but strangely, citibank was the cheapest of all back then and offer best flexibility. yes, most bank have 5-6 tiers with the last being blr+0.15 or +0. but citibank that time offer 7 tiers being the last tier blr - 0.5 :eek: (no, u didn't see it wrong, is blr minus!!) i did a complete calculation on all the bank for entire tenure. citibank is by far the cheapest.

[SHiGE]

something like that, but not really downpayment... basically, when the invoice came for the 2nd, 3rd progressive payments, i went to SMI and wrote a cheque...
so in another word, you just ask your bank to start the disbursement late. is like you being the bank at first paying to smi and only apply loan half way for the remaining balance? hmm.. interesting... mind telling me what is the benefit of doing so? just that you won't hold account of anything in case the project fail, you will just lose whatever paid to the developer on your side and not liable for the rest of the balance?

[totoro]

i thought of that also but strangely, citibank was the cheapest of all back then and offer best flexibility. yes, most bank have 5-6 tiers with the last being blr+0.15 or +0. but citibank that time offer 7 tiers being the last tier blr - 0.5 :eek: (no, u didn't see it wrong, is blr minus!!) i did a complete calculation on all the bank for entire tenure. citibank is by far the cheapest.The loyalty bonus (the 7 tier loyalty rebate) applies to their Flexihome loan package, but that package doesn't allow re-draw facilities.

The package that allows re-draw facilities, at this moment, is the Citibank 2-in-1 Home loan, which is of course the old term+OD account. This one doesn't have the loyalty bonus lor...

[SHiGE]

The loyalty bonus (the 7 tier loyalty rebate) applies to their Flexihome loan package, but that package doesn't allow re-draw facilities.

The package that allows re-draw facilities, at this moment, is the Citibank 2-in-1 Home loan, which is of course the old term+OD account. This one doesn't have the loyalty bonus lor...
is it... maybe i didn't go into so details about the flexihome package back then coz' they rejected me straight... :o

[totoro]

so in another word, you just ask your bank to start the disbursement late. is like you being the bank at first paying to smi and only apply loan half way for the remaining balance? hmm.. interesting... mind telling me what is the benefit of doing so? just that you won't hold account of anything in case the project fail, you will just lose whatever paid to the developer on your side and not liable for the rest of the balance?no la... i dun need to specifically ask bank to start late...

let's say there are 8 payments of RM8k to be made over 8 months. i take a bank loan of RM32k. then i have to ensure that i have finished paying the remaining RM32k not covered by the loan for the first 4 months, before the bank will subsequently start disbursing the other 32k progressively.

nothing mysterious or special about the amount of loan you have to take arr... you just decide how much you want to borrow from the bank lah...

[yeeyang]

Thx for all the comment.

1)Well, can we start paying the pricipal since the loan start?
yes
2)Well, the release of the payment is depends on which floor SMI construct ur unit right?
for some parts only
3)If our unit is at the top floor , so the release of the payment to SMI will be later compare to those who purchase the lower floor unit, am I right?
for some parts only, aiseh, so fast learn my trick d...
4)If we have addtional money, less say we get Bonus around RM 10k, is it possible for us to pump in the money to the loan? Any advice? Is it possible to withdraw back when we need it? Any addtional cost or penalty?
it really depends on which loan package you take, some do, some do not, please do shop around

FYI, just look at today STAR, AIA is offering BLR + 0% for 30 years loan...(but only for complete property......)
also 6.25% fixed rate for 30 years. they stopped offering BLR+0% for a while, but decided to offer it again recently. :D
back to the answer, which is the part that is included and what is not( until ur floor start constrution)? pls advice...

2)Well, the release of the payment is depends on which floor SMI construct ur unit right?
for some parts only
3)If our unit is at the top floor , so the release of the payment to SMI will be later compare to those who purchase the lower floor unit, am I right?
for some parts only, aiseh, so fast learn my trick d...

[totoro]

back to the answer, which is the part that is included and what is not( until ur floor start constrution)? pls advice...

2)Well, the release of the payment is depends on which floor SMI construct ur unit right?
for some parts only
3)If our unit is at the top floor , so the release of the payment to SMI will be later compare to those who purchase the lower floor unit, am I right?
for some parts only, aiseh, so fast learn my trick d...check http://www.star-space.com/services/printerfriendly.asp?artfolder=resources&file=/sections/resources/faq/faq.html

on the schedule of payments, any portion that refers to 'the said parcel' means specific to your unit purchased.

please also refer to http://www.hba.org.my for more info.

now let's get this thread back on track to discussing Kelana Mahkota related issues, yeah. TQ! :)

[exiled_criminal]

anyone keep arowana?

[DnA]

yalah.. i know la.. i know daily and monthly rest not rili much difference unless we are crazy enuf to make 10-20 payments a month. but is kinda 'siok' to think that you can do that if you rili crazy enuf.. haha.. :D

Sorry to continue this thread.... but just wanted to highlight for those not aware.

Actually the diff. is actually more than 20 coz my calculation is just a simplistic view to understand the diff. btw. monthly rest and daily rest. You have to bear in mind that the loan is a reducing balance method. Meaning your principal amt repaid in the early part of your loan tenure is minimal and grows as your interest portion diminishes. As such a daily interest method compounds the interest more frequently ie. daily as compared to the monthly which calculates interest on the balance on a monthly basis.

Hope that makes sense for all of you out there. You can PM me if you wanna further explanations. Otherwise, lets carry on discussing about KM issues.

[totoro]

Neighbours,

Samudra has started posting notices onto the notice boards.

1. Maintenance charges are effective upon VP, and not CF, as per S&P agreement. This is what is written in the notice.

Telekom has offered only 200 lines to Mahkota for now. Those wishing to apply 2. please apply at management office immediately.

[Haagendazs77]

Guys, I came to know about the swimming pool being closed at noon today.
Chemicals used to seal the cracks seep thru the pool :eek: , pls do not use the pool until they have rectified the problem. Not sure how it happen though...

[nkent]

Neighbours,

Samudra has started posting notices onto the notice boards.

1. Maintenance charges are effective upon VP, and not CF, as per S&P agreement. This is what is written in the notice.

Telekom has offered only 200 lines to Mahkota for now. Those wishing to apply 2. please apply at management office immediately.

Did the building mgt say how long does we have to wait after applying for the line?

[totoro]

Maintenance charges are effective upon VP, and not CF, as per S&P agreement. This is what is written in the notice.I went home and checked out the agreements. Looks like the maintenance charges are based on the Deed of Mutual Covenants, and not the S&P, and this agreement doesn't seem to be based on standard contracts like the S&P.

It does say that we have to pay maintenance immediately upon VP, but it also states that we are only to pay 1 months deposit and 1 month maintenance upon VP. SMI had asked us for 3 months deposit!

Also, the agreement states that common facilities are also to be delivered by SMI within 36 months, failing which we are able to claim on a 20% p.a. basis, just like late delivery, and common facilities include a BBQ pit, swimming pool, lifts, etc.

[ricster]

Neighbours,

Samudra has started posting notices onto the notice boards.

1. Maintenance charges are effective upon VP, and not CF, as per S&P agreement. This is what is written in the notice.

Telekom has offered only 200 lines to Mahkota for now. Those wishing to apply 2. please apply at management office immediately.

Another 1 says submission of request for renovation form must be done 2 weeks in advance. I wanted to start my reno next week. But with this new rule, even if I submit the form today, I can only start in June. Sigh...

I really don't see the logic for this new ruling.

[Tarantula]

Another 1 says submission of request for renovation form must be done 2 weeks in advance. I wanted to start my reno next week. But with this new rule, even if I submit the form today, I can only start in June. Sigh...

I really don't see the logic for this new ruling.

that's what i said.. these people are making our life difficult... no need to pity them all... that's their job to deliver the best to us.. not cincai2 one.. otherwise, dont manage a condo..

if there is only 1 person in charge (bala) for the whole 712 owners, and they cant cope up with it, then its their duty to add more staff.. not to delay on any of our request.. it just doesnt make sense..

sighh...

[Tarantula]

some more.. we are paying more than RM200k for this property.. we work for the money... so, we deserve for what ever written and specified in the S&P...

if they can simply impose any late charges on us.. then we should also get them to do their job... i am keeping all the black n white between me and mgmt... including my complaint.. if they are late to rectify it, i am ready to go for another level...

[totoro]

3 conditions for VACANT POSSESSION:

1. Issuance of a Certificate by Vendor's Architect certifying construction has been completed and water and electricity supply are ready for connection to the said parcel/building
2. Application of Certificate of fitness made to the Appropriate Authority by Vendor.
3. Purchase paid all monies payable under Clause 4 (1) Third Schedule.

Ensure that property is free from encumbrances when you take vacant possession.

---

As a matter of public record, I have highlighted in this forum that I only had electricity delivered to my said parcel / unit in April, which is past the 36 months period from the signing of my S&P Agreement.

As another matter of public record, lifts were not servicable until late March. Facilities such as the BBQ pit was not completed until April, iirc.

By right I am able to claim 10% late delivery from SMI, and 20% late delivery of common facilities.

Cheerios.

Btw, despite the developer claiming delivery of VP, if we as owners can produce documented evidence of a premature delivery of VP (e.g. water, electricity not connected, etc - thus nullifying SMI's claim to VP), we can take our issue to the Housing Tribunal to make our claim for liquidated ascertained damages (LAD).

VP is not VP until it has met all the necessary requirements.

[duxz]

some more.. we are paying more than RM200k for this property.. we work for the money... so, we deserve for what ever written and specified in the S&P...

if they can simply impose any late charges on us.. then we should also get them to do their job... i am keeping all the black n white between me and mgmt... including my complaint.. if they are late to rectify it, i am ready to go for another level...

your complaint form is just going right to the bottom of thier in tray and it will never rise to the top because that involve money for them to rectify.... but when it comes to money which u have delayed paying to them.... its going straight into your post box by passing even thier out tray :D

One Voice can be louder then 100's whisper

[Tarantula]

your complaint form is just going right to the bottom of thier in tray and it will never rise to the top because that involve money for them to rectify.... but when it comes to money which u have delayed paying to them.... its going straight into your post box by passing even thier out tray :D

One Voice can be louder then 100's whisper

yeah lahhh.. i think u are right also.. hehehehe....

may be, i should send the complaint to tv3 also lah... :D

[DnA]

Hi neighbours,

Have a problem with my electrician.

I was quoted Rm170 to pull new wiring for my air-con.

Then he brought in anor. guy to do the piping, etc.

Quoted me Rm200 for piping (concealed) and anor Rm120 for installation of air-con.

All in for a new air-con i have to spend RM490.

Is this amt excessive?

I really need to know soon as i'm planning to negotiate with the guy this afternoon.

[totoro]

Hi neighbours,

Have a problem with my electrician.

I was quoted Rm170 to pull new wiring for my air-con.

Then he brought in anor. guy to do the piping, etc.

Quoted me Rm200 for piping (concealed) and anor Rm120 for installation of air-con.

All in for a new air-con i have to spend RM490.

Is this amt excessive?

I really need to know soon as i'm planning to negotiate with the guy this afternoon.

RM170 for wiring from mains to your a/c should be ok.

RM120 for air-con installation is cheap.

RM200 for concealed piping is also ok, but check if it includes patching, plastering, touch-up paint, etc.

[DnA]

RM170 for wiring from mains to your a/c should be ok.

RM120 for air-con installation is cheap.

RM200 for concealed piping is also ok, but check if it includes patching, plastering, touch-up paint, etc.

Thanks Totoro.

Guess my bad for not budgeting for installing air-cons.

[Orca]

that's what i said.. these people are making our life difficult... no need to pity them all... that's their job to deliver the best to us.. not cincai2 one.. otherwise, dont manage a condo..

sighh...

Hi Folks

Greetings... and apologies for the long silence. Somehow I believe I wasn't missed.

I am sure all of us agrees with Tarantula. Well, here's my tip for those of you who get's a little frustrated speaking with them.

Just remind the management team that their purpose here is to facilitate us and not create difficulties. Further to that, we are the ones chipping in their salary. But please do it in a polite and diplomatic manner. It seems useful whenever I remind them on it.

[Orca]

Hi folks

I have just started a new forum for "Kelana Mahkota Condo" which specifically caters just for us. We can have several threads there rather than all cramp into one page such as here.

To make reading and communication easier, please head over to this following forum site which is confined to Kelana Mahkota topics.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/kelanamahkota/messages

So far I have created the following threads

- General
- Meeting schedules
- Reno & constuction
- Telekom

Please do advise if additional threads are required and I shall start it. Or better still, create it yourself.

Cheers.

[alexcttan]

yeah lahhh.. i think u are right also.. hehehehe....

may be, i should send the complaint to tv3 also lah... :D


only tv3 ah??

[totoro]

Hi folks

I have just started a new forum for "Kelana Mahkota Condo" which specifically caters just for us. We can have several threads there rather than all cramp into one page such as here.

To make reading and communication easier, please head over to this following forum site which is confined to Kelana Mahkota topics.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/kelanamahkota/messages

So far I have created the following threads

- General
- Meeting schedules
- Reno & constuction
- Telekom

Please do advise if additional threads are required and I shall start it. Or better still, create it yourself.

Cheers.Dear Kelana Mahkota owners, residents and related stakeholders,

I must commend Orca on setting up a threaded forum for us. I have used Delphiforums before and it's a good forum. However, I would like to propose an alternative, which is to create a Yahoo Groups for Kelana Mahkota, for the following reasons:

1. I know many readers of the forum do not post messages to the forum, as I receive PMs from people who do not post onto the forum. They do read with great interest though, I assure you.

2. Delphi requires us to sign up and sign in before we can read the threads, this additional task, from experience, is enough to put off the majority of readers.

3. The Yahoo Groups allows for anyone who is interested (member or non-member of the group) to read the messages online (if we allow it), and for those who wish to participate further, to sign in with their Yahoo account as Group members, and post messages as well as subscribe to the messages posted on a daily summary, an immediate basis, or choose not to receive messages at all (e.g. to check for posts online by themselves).

4. The Yahoo Groups allows Group members to maintain a proper email list of members, and all emails to and from the Group will be distributed to all members (as per their subscription of choice), and posting to the Group is as simple as writing an email to the Yahoo Group address, i.e. posting a message to this Yahoo Group 'forum' is as easy as mailing to the Group email address.

5. The Yahoo Groups also allows for us to share Photos, Files, Databases and Calendars for a more organized online collaboration.

Appreciate your feedback on this!

[Jaytea]

Yahoogroups!

[Tarantula]

Dear Kelana Mahkota owners, residents and related stakeholders,

I must commend Orca on setting up a threaded forum for us. I have used Delphiforums before and it's a good forum. However, I would like to propose an alternative, which is to create a Yahoo Groups for Kelana Mahkota, for the following reasons:

1. I know many readers of the forum do not post messages to the forum, as I receive PMs from people who do not post onto the forum. They do read with great interest though, I assure you.

2. Delphi requires us to sign up and sign in before we can read the threads, this additional task, from experience, is enough to put off the majority of readers.

3. The Yahoo Groups allows for anyone who is interested (member or non-member of the group) to read the messages online (if we allow it), and for those who wish to participate further, to sign in with their Yahoo account as Group members, and post messages as well as subscribe to the messages posted on a daily summary, an immediate basis, or choose not to receive messages at all (e.g. to check for posts online by themselves).

4. The Yahoo Groups allows Group members to maintain a proper email list of members, and all emails to and from the Group will be distributed to all members (as per their subscription of choice), and posting to the Group is as simple as writing an email to the Yahoo Group address, i.e. posting a message to this Yahoo Group 'forum' is as easy as mailing to the Group email address.

5. The Yahoo Groups also allows for us to share Photos, Files, Databases and Calendars for a more organized online collaboration.

Appreciate your feedback on this!

i guess... our concern here is probably to reach out as many people as possible via email (email group) and we also need a forum to discuss on some issue...

i would go any medium e.g. Yahoo or Delphi as long as it serves our purpose..
may be most of us are familiar to Yahoo and already has account with Yahoo..

but.. better still.. lets have only one forum... or one group only...

totoro, u wanna volunteer to be the host in Yahoo? hehehehe

[Tarantula]

only tv3 ah??

why...? u wanna complaint to Discovery Channel also? hehehehe... better go to Astro lah.. they got so many channels there.. :D

[alexcttan]

why...? u wanna complaint to Discovery Channel also? hehehehe... better go to Astro lah.. they got so many channels there.. :D

what about CNN, BBC, Phoenix, TVB???? :p

To be honest...after 5 months of using this forum, I am kinda use to it..the format, the function etc.....why don't we set up our own KM website that has a forum?? www.kelanamahkota.com???? Money....I am sure all of us can contribute a bit, expertise....lots over here, time.....we all know who he is ;) !!!

Thoughts??

[totoro]

what about CNN, BBC, Phoenix, TVB???? :p

To be honest...after 5 months of using this forum, I am kinda use to it..the format, the function etc.....why don't we set up our own KM website that has a forum?? www.kelanamahkota.com???? Money....I am sure all of us can contribute a bit, expertise....lots over here, time.....we all know who he is ;) !!!

Thoughts??let's hire Samudra to set up our website... :D :D :D

after all, what are we paying them RM1,700,000 a year for?

i would never allow a management company under my payroll to be inefficient, irresponsible, unaccountable and failing to deliver...

the problem? the law doesn't allow for the owners to collectively vote for their choice of management corporation until we truly own this place (i.e. strata titles). As of now, this is still the developer's property. We still need their approval and we need to pay them $$$ (I think 0.5% of selling price) if we ever want to sell our properties, iirc, in addition to the gomen. (This is the problem with leasehold, high-rise properties).

In the past this used to be up to the developer to charge even 1-2% of the purchase price as consent fees or administrative charges before consenting to sub-sales and assignments by purchasers.

With the amendment to the Housing Developers (Control and Licensing) (Amendment) Act, 2001, (Clause 12) vendors are now obliged to endorse their consent to those sub-sales, transfers and/or assignments to third parties (including their financiers) subject to the payment of the sum of RM500.00 or 0.5% of the purchase price - whichever is the lower. No other fees are chargeable by the vendor.

[how_wei]

I'm quite used to this forum already... anyway Yahoo group would be another choice also... not really like Delphi :|

[alexcttan]

let's hire Samudra to set up our website... :D :D :D

after all, what are we paying them RM1,700,000 a year for?

Samudra can pay for the set up, but don't think we want them to manage it.....712 owners + website....don't think they can handle that !!!

But seriously, should we start our own website??

[oliviasy]

#1 - if KM does hv it's own site, who's going to manage it?
#2 - who's going to pay for it? (domain registration & storage)
#3 - what is the site's purpose? we need to identify this factor 1st. is it solely for a forum? if so, better host it somewhere else where you don't hv to incur fees (i.e: Yahoo Groups)

my 2 cents :)

[totoro]

I want to highlight our legal rights as Kelana Mahkota owners on the service charges and our entitlement to annual audited accounts, and Samudra's responsibility to provide a detailed account of maintenance costs as per Schedule H (revised 2002) of the Housing Development (Control and Licensing) Act:

Clause 19. Payment of service charges.

(3) Every written notice to the Purchaser requesting for the payment of service charges from the Vendor shall be supported by a service charge statement issued by the Vendor. The service charge statement shall be in the form annexed in the Fifth Schedule and full particulars of any increase in the service charges shall be reflected in the subsequent service charge statement.

This Fifth Schedule can be found at:
http://www.hba.org.my/laws/Regulations/sch_h_new.htm

Which includes 26 general maintenance items, including Pest control, CCTV maintenance, Bank audit fee, etc.

Clause 19 (continued)
(6) The Vendor shall (and in the event a person or agent is appointed by the Vendor to provide the said services pursuant to subclause (5) hereof, the Vendor shall cause such person or agent so to do) provide the Purchaser with a copy of the annual audited accounts for the expenses incurred for the provision of the said services.

Know your rights! :D :cool:

[alexcttan]

#1 - if KM does hv it's own site, who's going to manage it?
#2 - who's going to pay for it? (domain registration & storage)
#3 - what is the site's purpose? we need to identify this factor 1st. is it solely for a forum? if so, better host it somewhere else where you don't hv to incur fees (i.e: Yahoo Groups)

my 2 cents :)

1) We can always have one sub committee in the RA to manage the website
2) I am sure it is not that expensive to have one
3) Our own identity, our community, our property, our way to communicate....a common medium to air our view.

[Tarantula]

1) We can always have one sub committee in the RA to manage the website
2) I am sure it is not that expensive to have one
3) Our own identity, our community, our property, our way to communicate....a common medium to air our view.

may be can refer to this link on web hosting..
http://www.netmyne.com.my/web_host/compare.asp

[SHiGE]

may be can refer to this link on web hosting..
http://www.netmyne.com.my/web_host/compare.asp
Sorry Tarantula. I know you work in Telekom but I must say that the price offer by Netmyne is extremely expensive. There are tons of hoster out there offering better package with half the price. Some more, the Netmyne package price doesn't come with any database solution. Top up is needed.

My opinion on switching to Yahoo Group.

I feel that our ultimate goal is to have our own portal website with forum, profile and others. Therefore, we shouldn't make any changes right now as to not to create so many confusion and migration.

As for the cost, is not that much more expensive. RM200-500 (depending on features) for hosting that comes with SQL Server database and RM50 for domain fee. So we will be paying average RM400 annually. If every unit in KM just donate RM0.60 a year, we can pay for the hosting already.

As for the expertise to create and administer the website, i'm sure many of us here has the expertise. I remember hearing our formal secretary during our first meeting mention something that he can create something like this. i hope someone that is more free can take this responsibility. Anyway, as backup, I myself is capable of creating portal like www.usj.com.my from scratch.

[oliviasy]

no need RM500 so much... RM255 dah cukup for 1GB hosting + domain registration (price source from IPXcess)

if 100MB below RM200 oredi can get :)

[Tarantula]

Sorry Tarantula. I know you work in Telekom but I must say that the price offer by Netmyne is extremely expensive. There are tons of hoster out there offering better package with half the price. Some more, the Netmyne package price doesn't come with any database solution. Top up is needed.

My opinion on switching to Yahoo Group.

I feel that our ultimate goal is to have our own portal website with forum, profile and others. Therefore, we shouldn't make any changes right now as to not to create so many confusion and migration.

As for the cost, is not that much more expensive. RM200-500 (depending on features) for hosting that comes with SQL Server database and RM50 for domain fee. So we will be paying average RM400 annually. If every unit in KM just donate RM0.60 a year, we can pay for the hosting already.

As for the expertise to create and administer the website, i'm sure many of us here has the expertise. I remember hearing our formal secretary during our first meeting mention something that he can create something like this. i hope someone that is more free can take this responsibility. Anyway, as backup, I myself is capable of creating portal like www.usj.com.my from scratch.


heheheh... can subscribe from other operator also.. what i posted earlier is just indication... not compulsory to get from netmyne..

but.. i really think... just use yahoo groups lah.. easier to create a forum and email group... we dont need website for now... later, may be yes..

[SHiGE]

no need RM500 so much... RM255 dah cukup for 1GB hosting + domain registration (price source from IPXcess)

if 100MB below RM200 oredi can get :)
i said RM200-500 depending on features ma..... the RM255 from ipxcess only come with mysql. well, that is okay also. but is easier to code appz that uses mssql.

[boiling mud]

Guys, I came to know about the swimming pool being closed at noon today.
Chemicals used to seal the cracks seep thru the pool :eek: , pls do not use the pool until they have rectified the problem. Not sure how it happen though...

I saw the pool yesterday...water was milky in the one with sprouting fountains. I may have heard it wrong from the hoohahhs that was going on among the workers - apparaently, some lorry carried tall goods hit something, and LG2 was wet... with the sound of water gushing in the pipes! In the chaos, Bala appeared to take things in stride, rushing all over the place - with walkie-talkie all that. Should pat his back for doing his best.

This morning, the water is clear again... If all goes well, the pool can be used again by this weekend.

[Haagendazs77]

I saw the pool yesterday...water was milky in the one with sprouting fountains. I may have heard it wrong from the hoohahhs that was going on among the workers - apparaently, some lorry carried tall goods hit something, and LG2 was wet... with the sound of water gushing in the pipes! In the chaos, Bala appeared to take things in stride, rushing all over the place - with walkie-talkie all that. Should pat his back for doing his best.

This morning, the water is clear again... If all goes well, the pool can be used again by this weekend.

Not very sure about what truly happenned, but glad that the pool can be used again. I think they've solved the flooding issue at the car park, well at least at LG1 :) , not sure bout LG2 though. I do agree with you that the management is improving, sometimes I feel that we shouldn't be too harsh on them, afterall we'll be stuck here together for some time , we live here and they work here, so we might as well be friends and work together to have a better home and workplace ;) . We'll reason with them if they cross over the line :mad:, I strongly believe we will be in a better position to negotiate with a registered and functional RA, and to achieve this, all of us need to participate and support the Protem committee to expedite the registration of the RA.

[totoro]

Not very sure about what truly happenned, but glad that the pool can be used again. I think they've solved the flooding issue at the car park, well at least at LG1 :) , not sure bout LG2 though. I do agree with you that the management is improving, sometimes I feel that we shouldn't be too harsh on them, afterall we'll be stuck here together for some time , we live here and they work here, so we might as well be friends and work together to have a better home and workplace ;) . We'll reason with them if they cross over the line :mad:, I strongly believe we will be in a better position to negotiate with a registered and functional RA, and to achieve this, all of us need to participate and support the Protem committee to expedite the registration of the RA.Carpark flooding issue is solved? That's great news! :D

Thumbs up for the management! :D

Btw, I went to Giant Kelana Jaya carpark the other night after heavy rain. And guess what I saw? Giant employees (and I mean Giant's employees, not tall huge 'giant' employees :p :p ) sweeping the water off the carpark floors, which also had a few mini swimming pools. :D

[Haagendazs77]

Carpark flooding issue is solved? That's great news! :D

Thumbs up for the management! :D

Btw, I went to Giant Kelana Jaya carpark the other night after heavy rain. And guess what I saw? Giant employees (and I mean Giant's employees, not tall huge 'giant' employees :p :p ) sweeping the water off the carpark floors, which also had a few mini swimming pools. :D

I think they learned the trick from the Indons at KMC :p ......

[kuanj]

It does say that we have to pay maintenance immediately upon VP, but it also states that we are only to pay 1 months deposit and 1 month maintenance upon VP. SMI had asked us for 3 months deposit!

Deed of Mutual Covenants/Maintenance Fee
If you go to Article XV, clause 15.1 Variation of terms under MISCELLANEOUS, SMI has the right to charge 3 months.
This is what they term 'standard agreement' when we signed.

kuanj

[totoro]

Deed of Mutual Covenants/Maintenance Fee
If you go to Article XV, clause 15.1 Variation of terms under MISCELLANEOUS, SMI has the right to charge 3 months.
This is what they term 'standard agreement' when we signed.

kuanjIndeed you are right, Mr Kuan! Clause 15.1 means SMI can vary any terms in the Deed of Mutual Covenant, including asking for 3 months advanced payment.

In addition, those who purchased their units after Dec 2002 will have this clause inserted as per the amended Schedule H of the Housing Development Act in 2002, whereby:

(2) From the date the Purchaser takes vacant possession of the said Parcel, the Purchaser shall pay a fair and justifiable proportion of the costs and expenses reasonably incurred for the maintenance and management of the common property and for the services provided. Such amount payable shall be determined according to the provisional share units assigned to the said Parcel by the Vendor's licensed land surveyors. The amount determined shall be the amount sufficient for the actual maintenance and management of the common property. The Purchaser shall pay one month's deposit and three (3) month's advance in respect of the service charges and any payment thereafter shall be payable monthly in advance.

S&P agreements prior to this does not include the specifics in this clause.

Refer: http://www.hba.org.my/laws/housing_act.htm and you can see the differences in Schedule H between the old and amended Act.

[chinmin]

YAHOOO !!!! We are back in business !!
Now please continue the complains and whinings...hee hee... :) :D ;) :p :rolleyes:

[totoro]

YAHOOO !!!! We are back in business !!
Now please continue the complains and whinings...hee hee... :) :D ;) :p :rolleyes:
ok it's official... KMC has taken over USJ :p :p

[kennethlhm]

finally we r bck to "HOME"

[Tarantula]

finally we r bck to "HOME"

pheewwww.. !!! at last... :D

[SHiGE]

Yeah!! at last...

[Tarantula]

Yeah!! at last...

testing testing..

[alexcttan]

testing testing..


Hello Gang-gang sekalian....long time no "see"....how are you ??

[totoro]

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/5/25/focus/11038186&sec=focus

A board that will look into issues specific to condo and apartment owners is being setup.

[Orca]

Dear Kelana Mahkota owners, residents and related stakeholders,

I must commend Orca on setting up a threaded forum for us. I have used Delphiforums before and it's a good forum. However, I would like to propose an alternative, which is to create a Yahoo Groups for Kelana Mahkota, for the following reasons:

1. I know many readers of the forum do not post messages to the forum, as I receive PMs from people who do not post onto the forum. They do read with great interest though, I assure you.

2. Delphi requires us to sign up and sign in before we can read the threads, this additional task, from experience, is enough to put off the majority of readers.

3. The Yahoo Groups allows for anyone who is interested (member or non-member of the group) to read the messages online (if we allow it), and for those who wish to participate further, to sign in with their Yahoo account as Group members, and post messages as well as subscribe to the messages posted on a daily summary, an immediate basis, or choose not to receive messages at all (e.g. to check for posts online by themselves).

4. The Yahoo Groups allows Group members to maintain a proper email list of members, and all emails to and from the Group will be distributed to all members (as per their subscription of choice), and posting to the Group is as simple as writing an email to the Yahoo Group address, i.e. posting a message to this Yahoo Group 'forum' is as easy as mailing to the Group email address.

5. The Yahoo Groups also allows for us to share Photos, Files, Databases and Calendars for a more organized online collaboration.

Appreciate your feedback on this!

Hi Totoro....

Good point. Yahooo is good. However, we might be getting a little too many emails once in a while. Shall we ask KuanJ to bring it up in the RA meetings and get everyone's consent.

[Orca]

i guess... our concern here is probably to reach out as many people as possible via email (email group) and we also need a forum to discuss on some issue...

i would go any medium e.g. Yahoo or Delphi as long as it serves our purpose..
may be most of us are familiar to Yahoo and already has account with Yahoo..

but.. better still.. lets have only one forum... or one group only...

totoro, u wanna volunteer to be the host in Yahoo? hehehehe

Good point tarantula....

Just to reiterate why the forum at delphi. So that reading is easier from seperation of threads.

[Orca]

what about CNN, BBC, Phoenix, TVB???? :p

To be honest...after 5 months of using this forum, I am kinda use to it..the format, the function etc.....why don't we set up our own KM website that has a forum?? www.kelanamahkota.com???? Money....I am sure all of us can contribute a bit, expertise....lots over here, time.....we all know who he is ;) !!!

Thoughts??

Good point too.... I have come to learn that should you have any good suggestions please bring it up with Kuanj.

[Tarantula]

Good point tarantula....

Just to reiterate why the forum at delphi. So that reading is easier from seperation of threads.

Orca,

welcome back to the forum.. u have been away from the forum for quite some times i guess... heheheh...

join us here with ur input, whining etc etc..

and join me in pool also.. hehehehe...

[totoro]

Good point too.... I have come to learn that should you have any good suggestions please bring it up with Kuanj.while the mode of group communication amongst the pre-ra committee needs a form of consensus, i would think that none of the individual owners of KMC need any approval process for communicating to each other, or to be bound by one forum or the other...

at the end of the day, we are just neighbours sharing similar interests and stakes in our beloved parcels of brick and concrete up in the air...

[Tarantula]

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/5/25/focus/11038186&sec=focus

A board that will look into issues specific to condo and apartment owners is being setup.

wahhhh... totoro is back in action.. !!.. :D

[totoro]

Good point tarantula....

Just to reiterate why the forum at delphi. So that reading is easier from seperation of threads.actually even this forum supports multiple topic groups and threads, and subthreads and other nifty tools, the only reason why we are kinda limited in this is because we're piggybacking on USJ.com.my's forum and only using a single thread in a single folder in the forum for communication and announcements...

cheers!

PS: this forum is hosted by a local company and uses vBulletin as it's forum engine.