View Full Version : Year End After Exam Kids Skip Classes OK?
kaang
20-10-2004, 12:19 AM
My kid skip the Monday class as exam over and gave me the following reason: one teacher on MC, other teacher may not come to the class and hence no need to go to school lah...nothing to learn in the school anymore.......killing time in the school very boring and might as well stay home(this is from the form 1 or form 2 kids). Kid's feedback - teachers are not teaching anymore.........nothing new to learn ....friends also no come to school...
Is it ok for the kid to stay home due to the above reasons or kids must go to shcool when the school is in session.
Apparently kids skip classes after the year end exam with or without the parent's consent (excluding the form 3 or form 5)seemed to be a norm and seemed to be an acceptable form of culture for the school?????May be it only happened to my kids' school.......very unfortunate....a louzy school in USJ????
May be our education ministry should look at revamping the way the purpose of the school being set up........freedom for all to choose and kids are free to come and go as and when they feel is convinent to them with or without the parent's consent.
Anyone to share the comments/opinions to the above...........
krystle
20-10-2004, 07:42 AM
Hi Kaang,
Although I do not condone kids skipping school after exams but on the other hand, it is a waste of time doing nothing in school. One of my friend's daughter will skip 2 days school and go back a day continuously till the holiday starts. Her classroom teacher did not even notice it. Many of my relative's kids do the same. It seems most parents have come to a conclusion that it is better for their kids to do something useful at home than to insist they go to school to do nothing at all. This is just one of many flaws in our education system. Sad but true!
KH EE
20-10-2004, 11:11 AM
heard the news this morning & hishamuddin said that, in future, major exams will be held later in the year so that students don't just lepak/ponteng after the exams.
euro_usj
20-10-2004, 11:20 AM
school is not just about exam n grades (try telling this to a famous school in ss19!, no, try telling hisham & his team!)
there is no need to push exam later. why can't the school organize some ECAs for the kids during this after-exam-period? strangely, kids are more tired after school during this "study-free" period than when they had to study!
achee
20-10-2004, 11:22 AM
THE STAR 20th Oct 2004
School break may start earlier
BY GAVIN GOMEZ
KUALA LUMPUR: The year-end school holidays may start three weeks earlier in the future, following complaints from parents that their children are doing nothing in school after their final examinations.
Alternatively, to resolve the problem, the Primary School Achievement Test (UPSR), Penilaian Menengah Rendah (PMR) and the schools’ final examinations may be held at a later date.
These are among the options being considered by the Education Ministry, Minister Datuk Hishammuddin Tun Hussein said.
Another thing that could be done was to have a pre-National Service programme during this time, he said after launching Bank Negara’s duitsaku.com web at its office here yesterday.
To keep their pupils occupied after the examination period, some primary school teachers have resorted to asking them to bring toys to school.
Asked for his comments, Hishammuddin said: “Until I resolve this, teachers will have to do whatever works; and if bringing toys works, then bring toys. It is not a problem.”
However, it was preferable that the students spent their time participating in non-academic activities such as sports or other extra-curricular activities, he said.
The National Union of the Teaching Profession welcomed the proposals but said that the Malaysian Examinations Syndicate had said it could not hold the various public examinations at the same time because there would not be enough invigilators and other support staff.
On the issue of schools left unused for years due to various problems, Hishammuddin said his ministry was compiling a list of affected schools and would start work on them as soon as possible.
“I want all these schools to be operational before the term for the Ninth Malaysia Plan begins,” he said.
It was reported yesterday that SK Tanjung Puteri Resort and SMK Tanjung Puteri Resort in Johor costing RM14mil each were left unused for three years as the access road to them was not completed due to lack of funds.
Last week, the plight of SK Sungai Menghulu and SMK Kelibang in Langkawi were highlighted. Despite construction being completed last year, the buildings which cost a total of RM40mil were yet to obtain certificates of fitness.
The matter will be discussed during the ministry’s post-Cabinet meeting today.
achee
20-10-2004, 11:48 AM
I went to my son's school and ask why the final exam was held 1st week of Oct, while there're another 5 weeks before the school break starts? The guru bertugas told me that they wouldn't want the exam held over fasting month.
Hey look here!!! God Almighty had not listed FINAL EXAM in the RAMADHAN DON'Ts list, and soon, the ramadhan month will fall even earlier since there's only 355day in the Hijrah calendar.
Having school holidays earlier may not solve the problem either. Some teachers may not be able to finish the syllabus in time. Or, teachers will be trying to cramp everything within the stipulated time frame regardless.
I don't know what to expect in the future.......... :rolleyes:
KH EE
20-10-2004, 12:23 PM
hey, my son's year-end exams are currently being conducted this week, oct 18-22, during puasa period... & ya, some syllabus were not completed on time but luckily wifey kept up to her timetable & completed it! way 2 go wifey! :D :)
Quarterback
20-10-2004, 12:44 PM
When I was in primary and secondary school many many years ago, we have the same situation. After exam, no teacher teaching as there are nothing to learn anymore. SO? it's actually wasting time.
suertes
20-10-2004, 05:44 PM
Classmates did that a lot in Forms 4 and 5 - but everyone got reprimanded by the class teacher! Except me - was a good boy throughout.
pcyeoh
20-10-2004, 07:43 PM
You know what. I bought all the text books and the wajib work books at the beginning of the year. And my kids as young as Std 1 has started to skip classes for the same reason - boring lah, teachers in teachers' room talking about their Cuti Cuti Malaysia plans and not teaching anymore so why go to school. I said "Come here, let me look at your school books." My God, the wajib work books most of them are 60% completed. This must be the biggest rip off jointly by the teaching profession and the text book publishers. I don't know whether I can get a refund for the unused portion. Somebody is making big time money at our expenses.
kwchang
21-10-2004, 08:30 AM
PCYeoh, I believe yr kids are in Kebangsaan school? Mine are "unfortunately" in the local vernacular and they get no rest. My kids have already gotten the school books for next year and my Std.5 kid is already doing Std.6 work right after his final exams a week ago. He will also be attending extra classes organised by the school during the school hols. I think not all schools lepak.
TepenPucong
21-10-2004, 09:52 AM
What happened to the schools and students nowadays?? I remember during my time in primary, this is the time for you to play. Somebody or anybody would bring in any indoor or cards games including toys to play with.
During my secondary period, we had interclass sports i.e. soccer, badminton or basically gotong-royong to built something a just cleaning-up the school or any other activities. Indoor games also were welcomed to be played.
I think these things are not the in-thing nowadays. Youngster nowadays doesn't play anymore UNO, chess, scrabbles, those car, ship, planes card games or even the infamous Old Maid or the Donkey. I'll bet you if the schools allowed PS, Gameboy etc during this time, nobody would complain. Sigh..how time changes.
wow tepenpucong, you just brought back memories, man. totally agree that schools should organize some form of activity during the last few weeks before school holidays.
i remember drawing murals as part of class activity when in primary srk subang jaya, ss14. every class had something on, be it painting the class, excursions or even gotong royong.
these days, with so much of things around us, things are just not the same. parents are more vocal to teachers, in some cases tell teachers how they should teach!! very appaling.
but then again, that's a different story all together ;)
idolfan
21-10-2004, 12:21 PM
With so much unhappiness over what is happening in classrooms and schools
be it national or vernacular,
what would be interesting is a survey to find out where the children, of political leaders as well as decision makers in education ministry, attend school.
KH EE
21-10-2004, 12:30 PM
a related topic...
October 20, 2004 22:22 PM
Minister Clarifies strange Phenomena Of More Girls Than Boys In Education
PUTRAJAYA, Oct 20 (Bernama) -- Not to worry. The situation where girls outnumber boys in acquiring secondary and higher education does not exist in Malaysia alone.
"It happens in other countries too. It's a global phenomena," said Higher Education Minister Datuk Dr Shafie Salleh Wednesday.
He was commenting on the statement by the United Nations Permanent Co-ordinator and Permanent Representative of the UN Development Programme Dr Richard Leete, Tuesday.
Leete was quoted as saying that Malaysia was facing a strange phenomenon seldom found in other countries where girls outnumbered boys in acquiring secondary and higher education.
The UN, Leete said, considered the situation as one, which could give rise to social problems.
Shafie said the ministry's statistics showed that the enrolments in polytechnics and local community colleges were in favour of boys while offers to public higher learning institutes were in the girls' favour.
He said that for the July 2004 session, enrolments of boys in all polytechnics stood at 34,324 as against 24,601 for girls.
For the enrolments in the 34 community colleges 5,041 were boys and 3,010 were girls.
Shafie said of the 45,856 places offered at the public higher learning institutes 15,796 places were given to boys and 30,060 to girls.
He said the government planned to establish more polytechnics, community colleges and industrial training institutes to give the opportunity to more students who were not academically inclined to opt for vocational training.
"We are giving them a second chance," he said.
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so where are the boys NOW?
KH EE
21-10-2004, 12:42 PM
another related topic...
October 20, 2004 17:15 PM
KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 20 (Bernama) -- It is only a public perception that higher education accomplishment is leading to more feminine domination in the country with local universities seeming to produce more women graduates than men.
But, the contrary is true; the proportion of women decreased significantly as they move up the occupational ladder, according to academicians from Universiti Utara Malaysia, Associate Prof Nik Kamariah Nik Mat and Puan Filzah Md Isa.
They said although over 56 percent more women enrolled in local institutions of higher learning than men, more men were working in management and professional positions than women.
While senior management positions were still being retained by the masculine gender, women were grossly under-represented in the senior posts in spite of doing well academically, they added.
"Only about five percent of women are working in management and professional positions in this country," they said in a working paper on "Phantom Women Graduates: Where are They?" presented at the International Conference on Management Education organised by the university here recently.
Although women lecturers constitute an average of 42 percent (1998-2002) in public universities in Malaysia, men still dominated in the academic profession, according to their research.
Nik Kamariah and Filzah said this gave rise to several questions about women graduates -- when they graduated, where they were and what happened to them.
"They could be married and become full-time housewives or self-employed, unemployed, holding lower positions or migrated to other countries. It is an endless mystery," they said.
Both said by looking at the ever-increasing number of graduates every year, there seems to be little hope for women to pursue careers in any high positions.
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an endless mystery, eh?
old folks did mentioned that it's a waste of resources to send girls for higher education - they maybe right if this trend is anything to go by. A case of "the older, the wiser"? ;)
Pets=Friends
21-10-2004, 01:10 PM
KH EE, izzit ok to comment on related topic rather than the actual topic? A spin off maybe, I don't want to be accuse of side tracking.
I actually know a lot of women who migrated overseas because they couldn't find suitable companions who earn more money or have higher educational background than them in this country. So Malaysian men, buckle up!
Back to the topic,
TepenPucong is right, those weeks after the final exams are the nicest time around the school calendar. All the kids attended school coz they can play with their friends. Maybe it's bcoz we didn't have any PS2, gameboy, computer games back then so spending time playing hours of uno, chess, old maid, donkey, batu seremban, Barbie dolls, monopoly were more enticing than staying home with brothers or sisters.
As I recall a certain batch of students from the Class of '96 of SMK Subang ______ had a blast playing poker, black jack and heart attack.
Ahhhh....fond memories.
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