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uchangeng
27-09-2004, 03:27 PM
The Sikh people don't cut their hair, don't shave. They wear turban to keep their hair tidy. In fact, as I know it, no one Sikh would voluntarily have a hair cut. Those who do, we call them modern Singh.

The Chinese, I found out, were once embracing the same practice. In the ancient time, the Chinese believed body hairs were from their parents and should not be removed. Not sure about the Buddhist monks later on.

Is the Sikh people keeping their hairs uncut for the same reason the Chinese did, if not, what is?

Just curious.

mlin
27-09-2004, 04:08 PM
if i am not mistaken, only the manchus in china practised that.

idolfan
27-09-2004, 04:17 PM
Sikhs have five symbols of faith natively known as Kakaars. These are Kesh (uncut hair), Kanga (comb), Kara (Bracelet), Kirpan (sword) and Kachehra (a special type of shorts). A baptised Sikh is to keep all five symbols of faith. These symbols are not merely symbols, they not only represent or identify a Sikh but also have deep meanings. Guru Gobind Singh Ji created a lifestyle within which one does not dwindles and remains focused on the path to attain salvation.

Kesh: Hair is not just a symbol, it is the gift from God. Guru Nanak started the practice of keeping the hair unshorn. The keeping of hair in its natural state is regarded as living in harmony with the will of God, and is a symbol of the Khalsa brotherhood and the Sikh faith. Hair is an integral part of the human body created by God and Sikhism call for its preservation. Sikhs live the way God made humans and never cut their hair. Guru Gobind Singh Ji instructed Sikh to wear Turban in order to protect their hair. Turban has many purposes and one is to keep a Sikh focused in his beliefs.

Kanga: The comb is necessary to keep the hair clean and tidy. A Sikh must comb his hair twice a day and tie his turban neatly. The Gurus wore turbans and commanded the Sikhs to wear turbans for the protection of the hair, and promotion of social identity and cohesion. It has thus become an essential part of the Sikh dress.

Kara: The bracelet symbolizes restrain from evil deeds. It is worn on the right wrist and reminds the Sikh of the vows taken by him, that is, he is a servant of the Guru and should not do anything which may bring shame or disgrace. When he looks at the Kara, he is made to think twice before doing anything evil with his hands.

Kirpan: The sword is the emblem of courage and self-defense. It symbolizes dignity and self-reliance, the capacity and readiness to always defend the weak and the oppressed. It helps sustain one's martial spirit and the determination to sacrifice oneself in order to defend truth, oppression and Sikh moral values.The rule is never to do injustice and never let anyone do injustice.

Kachehra: Kachehra symbolizes to live a faithful life. It reminds the Sikh of the need for self-restrain over passions, lust and desires. Apart from its moral significance, it ensures briskness during action and freedom of movement at all times. In todays dark world, filled with lust, if ever a Sikh gets carried away in the moment of lust, the Kachehra refrains one from making wrong moves and reminds him of his duties.

http://www.realsikhism.com/symbols.html

uchangeng
27-09-2004, 04:32 PM
No wonder all my Sikh friends are such nice people!

fRaNkY
27-09-2004, 04:44 PM
Its difficult to see sikh nowadays as all gone Modern.

Without their turban, you wouldnt know if they are sikh or indian.

lord
27-09-2004, 05:04 PM
A very good thread and an interesting read from idolfan. Thanx, guys.

uchangeng
27-09-2004, 05:09 PM
What is the relationship of the Gurkha and the Sikh? I met an ex-Gurkha soldier in Hong Kong, at the Star Ferry terminal, I thought he was a malaysian, and later found out that he was a Hong Kong permanent resident, that was years back then. Spoke perfect Cantonese!

farouk
27-09-2004, 07:26 PM
Hi all,
Sikhs is a monotheistic religion founded in Punjab in the 16th Century and Gurkhas are Hindu people descended from Brahmins and Rajputs who live in Nepal.

Franky you can usually tell the difference between Indian and Sikhs by the silver bracelet they wear which symbolises what Idolfan posted.

As far as I know there are approx. 30 to 40 thousand Nepalese immigrants in Hong Kong. When migrants seek domestic work in Hong Kong, there are agencies in Kathmandu that teach Cantonese, basic chinese cooking and interviewed by potential employers via the Internet.
I think one of the names of the agency is Hong Kong-based Far-east Overseas Nepalese Association (FEONA) -- a non-profit social organisation that works with Nepali migrants in South-east Asia.

orchipalar
27-09-2004, 08:15 PM
Err....now this could really be interesting indeed...primarily Orchi believes...that the sikh(s) are minority...there has not been much opportunity for Orchi to grow up mixing with them much also...in here Orchi is thinking there might be a difference between a sikh n a Punjabi(s)?...they could have the only surname for male as Singh....n for female as Khor?...no other surname..?

Having said that...Orchi could be mistaken also...for feeling that they live close to only one another among their own race...quite seldom they would mix with others...err....socially...ahem...Orchi here never had much of a chance to befriend a sikh.....to learn more....:(

uchangeng
27-09-2004, 09:40 PM
I used to live in Pandamaran when I was fresh out of school. Every morning, about 7, I walked to work about a km away. I passed by a villege of Sikh people. They spoke a language like singing, melody and very nice. Each morning when I passed by the villege, I walked slower, tried to listen they way the lady folks spoke to each other in the early morning sun.

jadewhite
30-09-2004, 02:29 AM
Question. What if the bangles are wore on the left and right. What would that means?

orchipalar
30-09-2004, 08:42 AM
Err...at times like this...it would be nice IF our TopGuru:) is still with us in here....yo!...Guruji....veer ar u?:confused:

Jayant
30-09-2004, 09:38 AM
uchangeng mentions the " kara ". Only one of this is worn.
As for bangles worn on both hands ..... this is more for decorative ( I hope I used the right word) purposes. These are worn by Indian women as accessories just like the nose rings, the earrings, the "pottu", the leg bracelets, the toe rings and the multitude of knick knacks that the traditional Indian woman uses to highlite, accentuate, draw attention to ( call it what you want ) their beauty.
A couple of the items mentioned above have been mistakenly seen as items of religious significance.
They are, I am told, not so. Can some of our more knowledgeable Indian friends pls enlighten us ?
:o

farouk
30-09-2004, 11:18 AM
Hello,
I asked a Sikh mate of mine the reason some wear the bangle on the right wrist and some on the left wrist, his explaination is simple.


Each Sikh person you'll see wears a bangle or bracelet around their right wrist because mostly we tend to be right-handed. We do things with our right hands and it reminds us to do everything honestly and justly whatever we do.
Kara - a steel or iron bangle worn on the right wrist as a sign of loyalty to the Guru and as a reminder to the wearer to restrain his or her actions and to remember God at all times.
Only one Kara is used on either wrist, besides that colourful bangles or many on each wrist(not Kara) is as Jayant said, decorative purposes.
Hope this answers Jadewhite's question. :)

uchangeng
30-09-2004, 02:01 PM
Do all Sikh people have only one same surnam, Singh? how about Deo and Khan? are they Sikh as well?