MAKSIAT at Subang Lake !!

[concern!!!]

dear all;

We must stop those "maksiat" activity before it spread to our younger generation! Every nite, about 11 or midnight onward, many couples which majority are malays will go to Subang Lake .. At that time, the restaurant and the sport centre is close and Subang Lake surrounding is dark enough to hide their "activity"!

Although there are some ppl do fishing at the pond near the entrance of the lake but when i went deep till the seafood restaurant and sport centre, i saw many couples (some sit in the car and some hide in the bushes) are in the "HOT" position

Really hope that the authority could do something so that this unhealthy activity will STOP.

Regards;
concern!!!

[farouk]

Yes I agree with you concern!!!, I use to take my son fishing there and usually about 7pm sure enough there will be some people getting it on in cars or on motorcycles(hidden behind bushes)
A room is a much more decent place then out in the open where public is about. Very indecent!
Majority of the people getting involved in indecency here are Malays which is appaling cause some of the ladies are in their tudungs and behaving like this. The men are no better getting themselves in cheap thrills like that. Someone has got to put a stop to this.

[pcyeoh]

I would suggest that this be reported directly to the Majlis Ugama or MPSJ to take action rather than highlighting it here and attract unnecessary attention with busybody people flocking there to do a peep show and further aggravate the illegal activities as peeping is an illegal activity. I remember way back during the late 60s where the hippies roamed wild and free, the Tanjung Bungah waterfall area was a Hippy Paradise where they roamed naked nonchalantly.The moment The Star reported this, the whole area was infested with busybodies making a beeline there creating chaotic traffic congestion along the dual lane coastal road. Of course it also created a mini economy where the hawkers were doing a roaring business and if you looked hard enough, you might come across telescopes offered at bargained prices. Do we want this to happen to our serene Subang Ria recreational park where family members take an evening stroll and fathers and sons casting their lines for a bite while time stood still?

[barney]

The authorities are too embarassed to take any action.. especially they know who are actively involved there.

Have to wait for some crime to happen and then the authorities would take action, so meantime let then have a good time including the peeping toms:D

Maybe I can start buisness selling condoms;)

[yablato]

to each his own. Those who live in a glass house should not throw stone.
the rich do in in the privacy of hotels (sleazy & 5 stars). those at the lower rung of the socio-ladder do it in the car/park/beach/motocycle/alley wahetever.

A newspaper report yesterday had a DSP/ocpd caught for same biological needs with a female companion up north. His tought luck btu millions are getting away.

Lets get ourselves into substance of religion than in form.

yg akan berkhalwat lato.

[Cindy Kee]

I agree with Yablato. Birds do it. Bees do it. Lizards do it. Butterflies do it. Wise men do it. Morons do it. Rich people do it. Poor people do it. Thus cut out the hypocrisy and self-righteousness. It is neither a race issue nor a religion issue. The original post mentioned about seeing many couples in HOT positions. Unless these couples go about doing it in bushes or in cars right NEXT to you, I do not see how you can see anything. Do you mean that you were sitting there doing nothing (perhaps fishing etc) and then this couple came along and sat next to you and started doing it? Or perhaps you crept along next to them when they were already doing it? Can anybody advise whether voyeurism is a criminal offence in this country?

:D

[Cindy Kee]

Ah, Barney, I thought right from the beginning your command of English wasn't that bad. Your perculiar sense of humour (peeping toms, condoms) was also beginning to show the person lurking behind a comical name.

:D

[orchipalar]

Err..it is obvious..ahem...as far as Orchi's standpoint is in here...:rolleyes:

Err...during Orchi's courtship with wifey...many winters ago...Subang Ria Park....has been one of our few favorite spots...it is very sentimental place us...err....as far as we are concerned....

Nothing yet beats taking a long stroll along the paths there...hand in hand...under a pale moonlight..in the cooler evening air...wispering sweet nothing to each other....;)

[Dreamer]

Nowadays, I don't think it's a good idea to do "maksiat" or dating at a secluded place. Hv seen quite a few cases where the couple got robbed or worse still the girl got raped!. Hmmm... it's a very risky thing to do. And also you could get caught by JAIS...

[orchipalar]

Err..Hi:) - Ahem...if it is not safe for love birds....then the same might just as well be for birds watchers.....aiya...then again...how is calling JAIS alone..err...going to make any difference....might need to call....err...ahem...the rangers??....the birds have different religious beliefs eh?.....how ar?;)

[isarahim]

We must stop those "maksiat" activity before it spread to our younger generation! Every nite, about 11 or midnight onward, many couples which majority are malays will go to Subang Lake ..
It might come as a big surprise to you, but Malays also have needs...if you didn't know. What is the big issue? On the contrary, the younger generation needs proper education rather than the current dogmatic religous brainwash. It's down to our hypocrisy contagion again; not even the most thorough brainwash can erase natural human hormones. At least Subang Lake is reasonably safe.

i saw many couples (some sit in the car and some hide in the bushes) are in the "HOT" position. Really hope that the authority could do something so that this unhealthy activity will STOP.
Their position is none of our business. And when did sex become unhealthy? Only when deprived of factual and comprehensive education.

[ginaphan]

When I was a kid, I lived opposite a soccer field. At nights, there would be acitvities in the field, like the ones described here.

Let me tell you, even with young eyes, you have to try VERY hard to see what is happening, much less determine what race they are.

But I do agree that doing it in public places is not to be condoned. Whether it's maksiat, cannot say for sure. There could be some kinky married couples ..... but I suspect not all are married (to each other).

[cskok8]

isarahim, what are you doing in the wee hours of the morning? Just back from Subang Lake?:D

[concern!!!]

Originally posted by isarahim
It might come as a big surprise to you, but Malays also have needs...if you didn't know. What is the big issue? On the contrary, the younger generation needs proper education rather than the current dogmatic religous brainwash. It's down to our hypocrisy contagion again; not even the most thorough brainwash can erase natural human hormones. At least Subang Lake is reasonably safe.


Their position is none of our business. And when did sex become unhealthy? Only when deprived of factual and comprehensive education.


yes.. i agree that malays also got their needs! BUT can a couples do it in private place? SEX is a very private stuff that should be apply on appropriate place. Not in public place rite? I din said that sex is unhealthy but i mean having sex in such place could create an unhealthy society...

[Timo]

I find this topic slightly amusing as I find 'sex in public places' to be sort of an urban myth - everyone talks about it but no one has even seen one. How did you guys manage to see such an event? I would love to see one one day, and creep up behind the poor couple with a large spotlight and, well, you know where I am heading. But perhaps I am being mean.

I really do not understand how some people can do it though. Surely it is uncomfortable? Especially in the 'classic' case behind a car? But perhaps the thrill of possibly being caught outweights all this? And I am happy to provide a means for this thrill!

In all seriousness though, I really think people should restrain these private activities to the privacy of your bedroom/house or whatever. If outdoors is the thing for you, go somewhere where you are guaranteed privacy, not somewhere where some people may bring their kids for fishing one calm night.

[isarahim]

Originally posted by cskok8
isarahim, what are you doing in the wee hours of the morning? Just back from Subang Lake?:D

:D That's a good one CS!!!!

No I tried the new lake at Putrajaya....



...brings my mind to a one of those stupid old childish jokes: "what does Bangsar, Subang and Bangkok have in common?"

[isarahim]

Originally posted by concern!!! SEX is a very private stuff that should be apply on appropriate place. Not in public place rite? I din said that sex is unhealthy but i mean having sex in such place could create an unhealthy society...
Ok, I understand your point. I think we basically agree. It's just that these things have a tendency to go out of proportions in our country. Sure, public sex is not allowed anywhere, not even in sexual liberation entrepots such as Denmark, Holland and some Caribbean Islands. And certainly not on British Airways.

But at the same time, the key emphasis should be on proper and factual education in school, not on paid voyeurs and professional peepers and not on religious dogma with the single but completely unenforceable "do not" message.

[orchipalar]

Err..Timo:) - Ahem..not doing it behind a car..rather it is on the backseats....err...which was true in those early years of automobile designs where the front seats were not designed to be tilted backwards as flat as what the more modern cars do....:D

Err....some would be confused calling it ahem..front seat drivers...backseats..err..drivers?....:p

Ahem..quite recently..read it in the paper...an incident in Penang...when approached by cops....the woman gotten panicky..drove her car off without much cloths on her....n ran down the cops' bike...dragged it for some distance too....

Err..for those with a flash light lurking in the parks...looking for thrills...better not get run down....:rolleyes:

[uchangeng]

I agree that our youngs lack s e x education and naturally when they reach puberty, without adequate parental guidance, they go astray. Most, I would say, do it out of curiosity rather then the actual s e x staff. Curious and eager to explore the new landscape. Of course, that leads to more serious staff like teeanage pregancy that leads to more social problem. As a good citizen, this concern us all and knowing the grave consequence that may befall our society, we should, at least, report it to the authority. Who knows, that someone in 'hot position" could be one of our friends' daughter or someone we know.

I have witnessed teenage pregnancy during my uni days and I can tell you, it is not a romantic thing to face. My good friend dropped out of uni( I saw her sat for her second year engineering exam with a big belly, a sad sight really), lost her scholarship because she failed miserably. I found out later she got pregnant by some "ang mo" hero who went AWOL from uni when he found it out. Great guy, whoever he was. The baby was eventually given up for adoption to a catholic family. My friend, the mother, never see her baby again. By now, the baby must be some 24 years old. I can tell you, no one ever mention her baby in front of the mother, BUT, mine you, deep down, I know the mother remembers her baby's birthday, for the rest of her life!

Being her good uni mate, I regret greatly for years for not being able to help in her time of need.

[fRaNkY]

Hahaha! Maybe I will drop by this weekend to get my video title "Maksiat at Lake Subang" completed and in to distribution the next weekend.

:) Never know I might even win an award.

[jeya]

In an nutshell it is evident worldwide many dont wait for the wedding night anymore to experience the first encounter. These activities are so rampant among youngsters and adults nowdays everywhere.

Location is not an important issue here for them. There is nothing anybody can do to control and prevent their sexual urges and passion.

Lets us be frank we were no angels either, or were we?
For Me, "Let It Be" : John Lennons song!:D

[isarahim]

Originally posted by jeya
"Let It Be" : John Lennons song!

Eeeer, that one was written by Paul McCartney!

Lennon wrote: "All You Need is Love".

[jeya]

Hi Isarahim
What I really meant was it was Beatles song i wasnt aware of the song writer. Thanks anyway.

[isarahim]

Originally posted by jeya
What I really meant was it was Beatles song i wasnt aware of the song writer. Thanks anyway.

Sure OK, sorry for nitpicking...anyway all the songs they made are credited to Lennon-McCartney regardless of who actually wrote them. (Except for those who were penned by George or Ringo of course.)