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tankahjoh71
24-05-2004, 04:21 PM
Any feedback from people who have ordered this unit? I hear the motion sensor is a bit erratic. Is this true?

Is the system as good as ADT?

deepan2004
25-05-2004, 07:50 PM
I guess you got your answer. So many people read your post but nobody wants to comment on the unit.

You are better of with adt.

tupai
01-06-2004, 03:26 PM
For one-time payment of RM680, i got a small degree of peace of mind.

My experience:
1. The seller (Mr Albert) is good in after sales service. All my enquiries(inclu silly ones) were attended to. He came over to my hse to see to a fused regulator plug-of-sort (They recognised this as a teething problem and will replace it).
2. The sensor works but is erratic. It can pick up movements at varying distance...It is more efficient for a vertical sweep than a horizontal sweep.
3. The Alarm/Bell is a wee bit of a 'handicap'. It is attached to the control unit and has a wire of only 3-4 feet long. So if the alarm is triggered the ringing is 'INside' the house . The alarm is muted if all doors and windows are closed.
The manufacturer is working on a longer wire where the bell can be attached to say closer the window(?) so the alarm can be heard by the neighbor and action taken.

ANother observation:
One of the back neighbor checked out a roof leak last Friday. He climbed up and saw a few tiles were out of place. In fact, the tiles were removed! The thieves cannot gain entry via the roof as the roof had installed zinc sheeting thru out.
Coincidently, another neighbor got hit. yes, thieves thru the roof, last Thursday. Yes, during the thunderstorm!

Across the road, Azan time, 3 burglars with crow bar tried to jack the back door. The lady of the house was upstairs praying...the back neighbor saw the thieves and triggered the alarm... These thieves are getting braver and they know when the menfolks are not at home!

Added security:
1. Get to know your immediate and back neighbours.
2. Install alarm and aluminium sheets on your roof.
3. Install Gate at back lane...hopefully, with majority consent lah.

tupai-in-fear.

p/s the thieves are both m'sians & foreigners!

satigue
05-06-2004, 02:33 PM
Tupai,
wat's the brand & wat's included in the package?
care to enlighten? i might be interested to install one also.
btw, wat does ADT stands for?:D sorry i m new in all this.
thanks alot!

tupai
05-06-2004, 03:45 PM
satigue, we have yak alot about this topic last month. Pls check out the thread. the alarm is tr-999, the contact person is Albert 019 322 4521, mention either Robertec or keith of ss17, he will fill in in on everything u need to know.

ADT? Ada Duit Talk? dunno lah...but its gotta do with rm60-70 per month. they will arm yr placve and link to a monitoring centre...somethin like that.

good luck.

tupai.

satigue
06-06-2004, 09:12 AM
HI tupai!
thanks for the link to the thread. have read it. seems u r quite satisfied with it. errm, so the sensor's erratic meaning u r still satisfied with it? just wana know more cos i might be interested in getting one too.

romi_o
11-06-2004, 09:53 PM
err... ADT.... ada duit tak?? haha:D anyway, still dunno which alarm system to install in my house... need a advance one... haha, still doing R&D for my own unit...

the tr-999 got dialing feature? maybe it's time to get the improved version on the net?

robertec
12-06-2004, 10:27 AM
A detailed list of the features of the TR-999 is available on this webpage located at the Neighbourhood Watch Website

http://www.nwatch.net.my/page.cfm?name=tr999

tupai
14-06-2004, 09:54 PM
guys,
I am happy with my <RM800 investment (add options).
I bought additional motion/infra sensor (so one in front at porch and one's behind at wet kitchen) + 2 other window sensors.

The motion sensor is the first line of 'defence':D

Yes, my being away last week gave me a peace of mind.
By the way, the alarm went off... my mobile rang and i immediately called my neighbour...yes, he knew cos he forgot to advise his son about the porch sensor:D

tupai.

satigue
19-07-2004, 09:03 AM
Romi_o,

so wat alarm system r u using now? care to share?:)

romi_o
20-07-2004, 01:35 AM
not tr-999... still looking for one...
a fren of mine who's also in this field told me that there r some drawbacks from wireless system, and he actually recommend me to use wired type for terrace houses and etc, for apartments or condos, well, u can use wireless type.

currently the market rate for wired type is around 1.5k to 2.5k, depending on I/Os (input/output points) and area size... also, a lot of added features r available...

headache just to consider all the offers (as an engineer, know a little bit also, keke) and budget wise also... *pain*

satigue
20-07-2004, 08:33 AM
Romi_o,

i just finished my renovation. so i dun think i wana install the wired system. i overlooked it during my renovation process thinking it's not tht important & tht time was a bit tight on my budget. the cost of laying wires for the alarm system can be a bomb.
so i m left to wireless system now. one advantage is tht u can bring it along when u shift to a new house in the future.
whow, u really do a thorough survey yea...it's been like 2 months already?:)
what's the draw back of wireless system? i can only think of one of the hassles....the batteries for the transmitters. have to monitor & replace em when depleted.
so can recommend any wireless system u found out?:D

romi_o
21-07-2004, 09:57 PM
well, no ads in here, so can't help u on this.... think u can find a lot of ads in the papers... :)
anyway, wireless drawback:
1. batteries: imagine u have 5 sensor units, hmm, who's going to monitor all those battery status? :) also, if u r having a IR motion sensor, and u have to put it (normally) high up near the ceiling, hmm, how r u going to know when the battery is flat? :)
2. interference: well, anything that can transmit/receive will be subjected to interference :) not sure about the frequency range for all those wireless system in the market, but somehow there will be ways to intercept the signals and thus security concerns will arise...
3. layout: limitation on hardware, since u can only used those units supplied by the supplier, if (let's say a company won't last so long in the market, in other word, tutup pintu :D ) u later on want to replace or add on a unit or two, no more! with hardwire type, u can easily look for spare parts in jalan pasar or some where else...

these are just some drawback told by my fren (alarm system provider, also supply wireless n hardwire type)

anyway, if security is really a concern to u, well, outlook is not that important, rite? u can just use cable conduits or ducts.... :)

just my pity opinion (not even worth a sen):D

satigue
22-07-2004, 07:39 AM
tankahjoh71,
wat alarm system did u get for yr home? care to share with everyone?
:)

romi_o,
thanks for the feedback. quite true as wat u said there. but then if those burglars got the gadget to interfere with yr alarm system, then i guess they must be real hi-tech robbers tht are dying to break into yr house.(maybe they saw yr expensive continental car
parked in yr porch)...haha.just kidding.
yea, get from a company tht's with good after sales service & tht u know they mean business for long term.

Hmm, i guess quite a number of forummers here have installed this TR-999 wireless system. anyone here got any complains so far?

scor80
21-07-2006, 09:25 AM
i just found some of the wireless alarm in market with affordable price <RM500 as initial start up...u can check on it
here is the link :)
http://www.cazaro.com/ :)

tupai
21-07-2006, 09:48 AM
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Hmm, i guess quite a number of forummers here have installed this TR-999 wireless system. anyone here got any complains so far?

YES! I am still awaiting Albert of TR999 to get me the replacement part for the ringing alarm-connecting-to-phone-relay gizmo :confused:
And its already so many weeks!

Albert! Albert ! where are you? Or specifically where's the 'relay' gizmo????

Yang Amat BerAlarm dgn servis?? lato tupai

clutz4words
27-07-2006, 09:49 AM
YES! I am still awaiting Albert of TR999 to get me the replacement part for the ringing alarm-connecting-to-phone-relay gizmo :confused:
And its already so many weeks!

Albert! Albert ! where are you? Or specifically where's the 'relay' gizmo????

Yang Amat BerAlarm dgn servis?? lato tupai


OH Tupai,

Call my fren, cos i saw the similarity of TR 999 with what he is selling. Maybe even if u have to change it it is still affordable.
Peter 012-3886666/ Victor 016-9492912

Give it a try, u'll never know what u may find.

We Care, We Share n We Love.

tupai
27-07-2006, 10:31 AM
OH Tupai,

Call my fren, cos i saw the similarity of TR 999 with what he is selling. Maybe even if u have to change it it is still affordable.
Peter ...Victor ....Give it a try, u'll never know what u may find.

We Care, We Share n We Love.

If I was in the bizz like your friend, I'd get hold of this 999 alarm and see if my own Brand & its parts can be used or not. I will do my own research to build my very own market share...not the other way around lah.

That way, I will have a after-market audience to look into. Whether the dissatisfied or potential customer wants to buy spare parts or brand new set from your friend is another matter...

There is little rational reason for me to change, a whole set, if its only a relay problem, no?

In reading: Albert, the whatever sparepart in already or not????

Yang Amat Belum satisfied customer lato tupai

p/s someone please tell me if a RM680+ wireless alarm set has a product shelf life? Other than changing the bateries, this set is just 2 years old...DO i throw it away? DO i wait for the spares and !@@##$%^^& all the under RM1000 alarm set and buy Chubbs instead? At least Chubbs lasts nearly forever! :confused: :confused: :confused:

satigue
27-07-2006, 02:28 PM
guys,
I am happy with my <RM800 investment (add options).
I bought additional motion/infra sensor (so one in front at porch and one's behind at wet kitchen) + 2 other window sensors.

The motion sensor is the first line of 'defence':D

Yes, my being away last week gave me a peace of mind.
By the way, the alarm went off... my mobile rang and i immediately called my neighbour...yes, he knew cos he forgot to advise his son about the porch sensor:D

tupai.
tupai aka hurricanemax,
so how la now? r u happy with the system or still waiting for the spare? :D

tupai
27-07-2006, 05:58 PM
tupai aka hurricanemax,
so how la now? r u happy with the system or still waiting for the spare? :D
hapy for 2years then it failed to connect to the phone when triggered :(
Albert the supplier/brand owner is yet to get to me... :(

yang amat berkecewa dgn alarm lato tupai

clutz4words
27-07-2006, 08:11 PM
hapy for 2years then it failed to connect to the phone when triggered :(
Albert the supplier/brand owner is yet to get to me... :(

yang amat berkecewa dgn alarm lato tupai

Well, Albert has obviously desserted his clients.
Why not look into having a brand new set with trade-in/up-grading programs.
i believe they'll have it.

anyway, good luck in getting Albert.
P/S: u might be able to get from chubbs, i believe the costing for wirings will be bundles!! :)

Belum cuba, Belum tahu. Give a try no harm.

Yang amat kecewa dengan Albert.

tupai
28-07-2006, 10:45 PM
OK..I got a respond. A substitute/replaceemnt set will cost RM480 or something liek that.
Why? Becos the first set was 'supposedly' fried by the lightning and this second set is also 'fied' by another lightning....So my third set will cost the 480or whatever....

Ok, so this 999 is a very very sensitive piece of technology. I got no problem with that.

My question is
1. Why my other electronics are not fried by the same lightning twice over? - OK, it was connected top the phone lines...but all phone lines have its own lightning arrestor (with sirim sticker lah)...so what happened?

2. Ok, I am unlucky to have been fried twice...ANY other TR999 user out in SJ/USJ who face this same problem? Or am I really the unlucky bugger here :cool:

3. Could it be a TR999 product defect or design that will go kaput after, say just over 2 years? and there is NO replacement parts BUT to change the whole receiver/transmitter set?

ANy TR999 to enlighten me before I got he Chubb way? Or maybe the Doberman way? Or the one I saw in Star for rm560+ with a 2 year warranty...(maybe the damn thing wil also conked afetr 2 years!)

Yang Amat Blur dgn elcheapo & Not reliable alarm lato tupai

AliciaC
29-07-2006, 10:41 AM
i dont know whether my set is facing the same problem..... but if we connect the phone line to the alarm thingee.... all whole phone line would go kaput. (happenned abt 6 mths ago already). yes, we did call albert but he said it's telekom's problem?? (but initially for the first 1 yr, no problem. only happened after the big thunderstorm in subang). we called telekom to come n fix, but they found no problem w the line so as long as we dont connect it to the alarm. so up until now, we have been using the alarm without being connected to the phone.....(just sharing our experience with it)

tupai
29-07-2006, 07:38 PM
i dont know whether my set is facing the same problem..... but if we connect the phone line to the alarm thingee.... all whole phone line would go kaput. (happenned abt 6 mths ago already). yes, we did call albert but he said it's telekom's problem?? (but initially for the first 1 yr, no problem. only happened after the big thunderstorm in subang). we called telekom to come n fix, but they found no problem w the line so as long as we dont connect it to the alarm. so up until now, we have been using the alarm without being connected to the phone.....(just sharing our experience with it)

ALBERT! in reading this..there are now 2 of us having the same problem!

Do you seriously think that it was the same lightning that struck Alicia & my set??? And bearing in mind that i was the one who introduced Alicia to buy from you...
I bought tr999 AFTER someone posted that in USJ whatever community/NW had tried it and that there was no problem....SO
1. The problem is with Tupai & Alicia's home cos Lightning like to strike their telephone lines(without affecting the telephone) BUT kaput the TR999 alarm

2. USJNW got a small commission for each set sold in Subang Jaya..therefore, word of mouth from trustworthy neighbour is better than any advertising

3. Elcheapo set from USA is made to last just weeks afetr 2 years then it time to change to a new set/receiver/transmitter/alarm-tele-connector..I still harbour hope that tr999 will look into this and say that their product is DEFECTIVE and not blame Zeus for picking on my & Alicia alarm set!

4. Albert's technician in Penang or whatever is incompetent. And to do it the typical Malaysia style..sweep it under the carper and hope it will go away OR blame the lightning OR "Wahlan, what this Yg Amat Bodoh want? Only rm680 make so much noise! Wat he want our alarm to last for how long???" OR "what he want now? buy another set lah...give a bit discount can wah!"

ANyone else with the same problem??? Lets address the problem NOT the symptoms!

Yang Amat benggang dgn tr999 lato tupai
:mad:

clutz4words
31-07-2006, 09:11 AM
ALBERT! in reading this..there are now 2 of us having the same problem!

Do you seriously think that it was the same lightning that struck Alicia & my set??? And bearing in mind that i was the one who introduced Alicia to buy from you...
I bought tr999 AFTER someone posted that in USJ whatever community/NW had tried it and that there was no problem....SO
1. The problem is with Tupai & Alicia's home cos Lightning like to strike their telephone lines(without affecting the telephone) BUT kaput the TR999 alarm

2. USJNW got a small commission for each set sold in Subang Jaya..therefore, word of mouth from trustworthy neighbour is better than any advertising

3. Elcheapo set from USA is made to last just weeks afetr 2 years then it time to change to a new set/receiver/transmitter/alarm-tele-connector..I still harbour hope that tr999 will look into this and say that their product is DEFECTIVE and not blame Zeus for picking on my & Alicia alarm set!

4. Albert's technician in Penang or whatever is incompetent. And to do it the typical Malaysia style..sweep it under the carper and hope it will go away OR blame the lightning OR "Wahlan, what this Yg Amat Bodoh want? Only rm680 make so much noise! Wat he want our alarm to last for how long???" OR "what he want now? buy another set lah...give a bit discount can wah!"

ANyone else with the same problem??? Lets address the problem NOT the symptoms!

Yang Amat benggang dgn tr999 lato tupai
:mad:

Tupai and ALicia:

TIme to move on n not looking back. Lighting strike both of u same time and albert desserted u both.

Good luck with the wired sistems. make sure they don used too much of vibrating sensors(cause of false alarm)

So far, i've learned that trigerration must be immediate and no lapsed of time during entry. This allows the person time to tamper with the sistems. Zone or no zone, triger must be fast and siren must be loud.

Take care and good luck.

Yourdadisangry
31-07-2006, 09:39 AM
well....my 999 phone trigger does not work for quite sometime. Alarm triggered but no calls (last time very good). Checked the transmitter everything fine. Not sure if it was struck by lightning because no indicators or burning plastic plus my switch box is very sensitive. No other electrical things kaput at the moment. But not sure why the 999 phone function didn't call when alarm triggered. :confused:

robertec
31-07-2006, 11:48 AM
Tupai

I understand that you are frustrated about the problem,


I bought tr999 AFTER someone posted that in USJ whatever community/NW had tried it and that there was no problem....SO
In May 2004 the Product was Brand new, at a price of RM680.00 at that time it was the best buy in Town. We tested the product and it worked accordingly to what was stated. So you actually want us to test it for 2-3 years before we introduce it and then give you our own guarantee too?


2. USJNW got a small commission for each set sold in Subang Jaya..therefore, word of mouth from trustworthy neighbour is better than any advertising
We do not get a commission for every set sold in Subang Jaya.

This is what is stated at the Neighbourhood Watch Website about the TR999

Special Note
If you are from one of the participating N/W precincts in Subang Jaya/USJ or Bandar Sunway, and you purchase the system through the N/W Community, the manufacturer will make a donation of RM30.00 to your N/W Community/RA/RT Committee for every set sold.

This is a Community Service brought to you through the Neighbourhood Watch Community in USJ.

Those who are interested to place an order may send a private email to robertec@nwatch.net.my or raymond@nwatch.net.my providing your names, addresses and contact numbers. The supplier will then contact you directly and all subsequent transactions will be between yourselves.
So you have problems with the alarm system after 2 years and you now start dragging everyone through the “mud”? is that your general outlook on everything?

In total 40+ sets were sold through the Neighbourhood Watch Wesbite, none through the participating N/W Precincts. The commission we got was put to good Community use. And since I have been made out to be the not so trustworthy neighbour who recommended the product, should I account for how the money was spent?

In fairness, did Albert change your Alarm unit when you first reported it defective? How many times in total did he change it since then?

Just for your information, Albert is not reading this. I am relaying the messages to him out of courtesy to you.

By the way, the Neighbourhood Watch Website is not my own. It was built for the Neighbourhood Watch Community by the community and is funded by DAGS (read the about us here http://www.nwatch.net.my/page.cfm?name=aboutus, I am but only a caretaker of the website. If anyone is interested in taking over this money making role just let me know.

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tan_r
31-07-2006, 12:00 PM
... If anyone is interested in taking over this money making role just let me know.
I second that. Just for the record, RM500 (is this the correct amount, robert) was donated to usj.com. my during the last donation drive.

robertec
31-07-2006, 12:25 PM
I second that. Just for the record, RM500 (is this the correct amount, robert) was donated to usj.com. my during the last donation drive.

The amount was closer to 700+ and it was documented on Jeff's Blog as a contribution from the Neighbourhood Watch Group.
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tupai
01-08-2006, 02:21 AM
OK...Albert, u r not reading his...Anyway, there are now 3 of us that Zeus didn't quite like.

Anybody can insinuate and intepret anyway you want. The underlying score is that a testimonial from say a celebrity can usually sell a product. There are suckers,fools & idiots like me out there all the time...

This tr999 is getting to be a pain for a small 'investment'...cheap thing no good is the caveat for those interested. Me? ikan!..i am pouring myself a Rm1.00 pershot drink...hic! :D

Zeus! please strike all those 2year-old cheapos like you did me...hic!hic!hic!

Yang Akan Buang tr999 satu hari but not today lato tupai :p