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Ni2r0kItt
29-04-2004, 01:31 PM
i for one believe that roadside dining should be allowed in places where the noise pollution generated would not wake ppl up in nearby areas. and if so, noise should just be cut down. I am vehemently opposing to the fact that some twisted MPSJ folks are benefiting from bribes to allow certain operators putting on the roadside, while some earn them by tipping operators that a sweeping lorry would be on its way to clear them out. enforcement through the law would be sufficient IMHO, as those nice looking frames which holds a laminated certified A grade for cleanliless are plain BS. As a matter of fact, cleaniless ought to be standardized and every restauranteur should be inclined to maintain a certain degree of cleanliness. That said, revoking licenses would do the trick and hold operators responsible to clean its premises. Since the car parks and public premise do belong to the government, it could in fact charged an amount per square feet to be rented out to the restaurants instead of benefitting them parasite officers. I hope that people would seriously consider and ought to propose via various mediums, as i sincerely oppose all forms of corruption. Cheers.

Timo
29-04-2004, 03:38 PM
I totally hate those roadside dining places, especially when they think they have the right to kick my car out of its parking space! Bastards!
So, I suggest we ban ALL roadside dining, and at the same time limit the possiblities of corruption in one fell swoop.

By the way, I keep seeing the letters IMHO, what does it mean?

KH EE
29-04-2004, 04:24 PM
Timo, IMHO = in my humble opinion.

Read the other day that the MPSJ president is thinking of "legalising" roadside dining. So how-lah? :confused:

isarahim
29-04-2004, 05:22 PM
IMHO = in my humble opinion.

Can also mean "in my honest opinion" according to some forums.

jeffooi
29-04-2004, 05:27 PM
Glad you guys are making informed decision rather than just ranting.

Perhaps, there's some more info you may have missed out. Read our frontpage story dated April 27 on the issue. The URL:

http://www.usj.com.my/usjXpress/details.php3?table=usjXpress&ID=354

isarahim
29-04-2004, 09:51 PM
What about the new topic:

Roadside dining and its effect on corruption

Much more interesting...

kokomo
30-04-2004, 12:17 AM
Sometimes, roadside dining are just one of the best dining but already agreed that it should not happen near housing area which is disturbing the peace of the residents.;)

Don't we all notice that most of the roadside dining in USJ / Subang Jaya are actually those famous mamak food area ie : Tanjung, DArussalam & etc etc ... :)

Ni2r0kItt
30-04-2004, 04:55 AM
i wouldn't be innit for a total ban on the whole thing. some people actually like dining in the open air. mamaks, for example, are filled with people who smoke in the premise which makes teh environment extra stuffy. i'd say let the public enjoy life in the open. rationality and common sense ought to prevail in this matter. it's true, they have no right to conquer ur parking spot but a reasonable man would be able to solve it through reasonable measures. car parks are scarce indeed, co-op is the key. tolerance in society are drummed in all schools here, but what do u grown ups really think about it? lets review the headline, btw, do u buy a grade A rating, because from what i see, if sri melur can place their tables on the roadside, their cleanliness is suspect to be any better than a bak kut teh shop i know around ere. "... at suitable spots..." what do u deduce from this phrase? everyone uses the car parks in front of their restaurants, how does one place become more suitable than another? regulation on noise, cleanliness and limits on reasonable capacity could be superimposed on all operators, making every place suitable. Also, corruption ought to be stemmed out via a top-down approach, not bottom-up. speak of the truth, bluntly and blatantly, deep pockets unlocks the darkest rooms in your heart. Grown ups know it. My naiveness just reiterates what is already a common fact to the mind-our-own-business harmonious society.
I search for the language that is also yours

satish
30-04-2004, 08:19 AM
Thats why..MPSJ is practising Double Standards..If you compare the SS19 hawker centre verses say..Sri Melor..hawker centre wins hands down.."for dirtiness!"
But Sri Melor gets a summons..Every summons given out by MPSJ requires min RM300 to be paid to their coffers.

Where's the logic?

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orchipalar
05-05-2004, 05:52 PM
Hi:) - Millions of people take foods n drinks by the roadsides, yes, it is distasteful to plenty of you, but that is something the millions 'lessfortunate' ones have to 'swallow'. These people grow or survive from 'roadsides eating'. Millions of traders also 'cari makan' this way lah. It sucks sure, for you. Better stay away then if you don't like it. But for others like Orchi, occasionally wishes to 'fine dine' in Shakey(s) or McD(s), most of the times, Orchi goes for 'stalls', some were even situated next to public toilets, or traffic lights, in the heart of cities with some 8 to 10 millions polulations. What to do? Life sucks for millions. Orchi thinks you are amongst the luckiest n wealthiest of people in Asia alone. Orchi hasn't been to all but, the next time, try to visit those places in Chennai, Calcutta, Dhaka, Chittagong, Bangkok, Yangoon, Phnom Penh, Ho Chi Minh, Hanoi, Vien Thien, Jog, Manila, etc. Then tell Orchi which 'class' of the populations you belong to, or which you wanabe?:)

satish
05-05-2004, 06:47 PM
Orchi..

my view,

Open air dining is not necessarily for the poor..
Even people that wear Gucci/St Laurent..sit in the open
in Paris...for them its normal..
but the area outside the shops are spotlessly clean...

back home..harsh reality..if only the people here use the tolets
like they use theirs in their homes..our toilets wil smell super.
(unless their toilets in their home stink too!)

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