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CASSA318
25-03-2004, 01:59 PM
Press Release: 25th March 2004



IS THE ‘e-tiara’ SERVICED APARTMENTS PROJECT IN SUBANG JAYA APPROVED BY MPSJ?

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The Consumers Association of Subang and Shah Alam, Selangor (CASSA) today called upon the Ministry of Housing and Local Government, the Anti Corruption Agency (ACA), the Bar Council, Bank Negara and the Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ) to conduct a comprehensive investigation into the Subang Jaya ‘e-tiara Serviced Apartment project at SS16 Subang Jaya.

CASSA makes the call after receiving complaints from over 36 purchasers who were asked to sign a controversial ‘Offer To Purchase’ document and paid deposits of RM5000.00 for various units with a price range of between RM150, 000.00 to RM238, 000.00 questioned, as to the “approval status” of the said project, after they received conflicting reports, that the project is yet to be approved by the Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ).

Purchasers allege that Marketing Agents from International Asset Consultants Henry Butcher at the sales office in SS16/1 Jalan Kemajuan Subang told them that the said project was approved and that more than 70% of the serviced apartments were already booked!

There is also widespread anxiety as the Project brochure states that:

“All illustrations are artist’s impressions only. The information contained in this brochure is subject to change as may be required by the authorities and cannot form part of an offered contract”

Is this not a disclaimer to any possible “misrepresentation contained therein in the brochure” which would/may seriously affect the rights and interest of the purchasers?

The purchasers were also told that each residential unit would be entitled to 1 free car park and all legal fees would be “absorbed” by the developer’s “in house solicitors”!

The project is speculated to be over 23 Floors with 15 Floors or 304 Units for residential purposes, while others, would be commercial purposes.

Reliable sources informed CASSA that the said project proposals and applications were rejected by the MPSJ under the former President Datuk Ahmad Fuad.

CASSA research and interactions with Subang Jaya residents also reveals that the said project, if approved, would further worsen traffic conditions and the increase in density would also create other environmental and social problems for the already congested neighborhood!

However, several pertinent questions need to be also raised at this juncture.

Among them:

1. If the application was already rejected by the MPSJ, how did the developer manage to “rehabilitate” the said applications and based on what criteria?

2. Why is the said developer providing “in-house solicitors” when it is undermining Section 80 of the Legal Profession Act?

3. What is the basis for Alliance Bank to provide “end financing” for a project, when it is yet to be approved by the relevant authorities?

4. Will the said land be also charged by the said developer to the said bank?

5. Was there a feasibility or EIA study conducted by the relevant authorities looking specially, at the impact of this project on residents and the Subang Jaya neighborhood?

In view of the scandal revolving around the abandoned Serviced Apartment projects, Rhythm and Newgate Avenue at USJ19 and 21, where over 2000 innocent purchasers rights and interest were violated, it is pertinent that the authorities conduct a detailed and comprehensive investigation into those behind
this project and login “safeguards” to prevent a repeat of a “Rhythm or Newgate” type scandal.

In view of the issues raised, CASSA calls upon the Anti Corruption Agency to investigate how this project which was alleged to be rejected was allowed to resume?

It is also pertinent that the MPSJ go public with the real legal situation and status of the project applications to protect the rights and interest of purchasers.

It is also vital that Bank Negara investigates if any fundamental banking practices have been violated or compromised in the position taken by Alliance Bank to provide “end finance” to purchasers when the project is yet to be approved by the authorities?

The Bar Council needs to remind Solicitors on the practice direction and Section 80 of the LPA which if followed would prevent a “conflict of interest situation”!

In view to the complaints received CASSA has also lodged a Police report at Subang Jaya Police Station requesting the police to investigate, if, there are any irregularities in the said project approval and other related matters.

A follow up ‘Feedback Campaign” would also be launched at the said neighborhood to gauge resident’s feedbacks to such mammoth projects near their neighborhood.

And based on their feedbacks a report prepared for presentation to the relevant authorities, which include the Federal government at Putrajaya.

Dato’ Dr. Jacob George

President/Legal Adviser

The Consumers Association of Subang and Shah Alam, Selangor (CASSA)

mod
25-03-2004, 02:48 PM
Nice work & very interesting read. I've a question: is there a place where consumers can check to see if a development project has been approved?
Regards,
Mod

CASSA318
25-03-2004, 08:14 PM
Saudara MOD, Good evening,

The local council should be able to furnish the details.

But, in this case, there seems to be "many conflicting reports" emerging, at least since 8.10 pm. tonight.

In all fairness, CASSA as a responsible consumer group has asked the MPSJ to clear the air by going public with the "status" report.

I trust they will.

Dr.Jacob George
President/Legal adviser

tupai
25-03-2004, 10:04 PM
Great show Doc!

Keep the heat up...and we mayhaps see the crystalization of 'transparency'.

thank you CASSA.

tupai

achee
25-03-2004, 10:24 PM
USJrians, is rm150 for a 617sqft a worth buy?

Achee just wonder, and how much do u think it will appreciate?

jeffooi
27-03-2004, 08:49 AM
Vernacular paper Oriental Daily News carried this March 26, Page A14:

<img src="http://www.jeffooi.com/archives/e-Tiara_Brochure_web.jpg" border="1">

It says MPSJ had rejected the project during Ahmad Fuad's time. Now the new YDP has resurrected it.

Hakim was former YDP for Majlis Perbandaran Klang, while the developer one Datuk SP Lim is from Klang too.

Are we seeing more things on this? As if Rhythm Avenue and Newgate Avenue have not been good lessons learnt...

dome
30-03-2004, 11:45 PM
Dear all,
As a matter of concern n information to all of us who is interested in picking up another property in subang.
i was also entise to this above project with its good location but i found out more after asking around this are my findings. as consummer association i plea you verify such facts


1.this is a commercail status land n i found out it cost more in mantainance, water supply and electricity.meaning it cost more to leave in this apartment thenin other apartments .(talking to the marketing team hendy butcher they silent about it when i ask, is it more expensive)

2.Wonder why such saleble project (iwas told 70 % taken up) is marketed by a property agent and not the developer themselves. maybe they do not want to appear in the front line as this is not they madain project.if i m not wrong the owner of this project is NPO development. which bring me to the next point.

3. A friend told me NPO Development develop MUTIARA BUKIT RAJA. jalan meru..He was a buyer of that project which has just delivered him keys. He say he is not a proud owner of this project.it floods when it rain to a height of 5 inches. the water tank is dangerious place n have fallenof not once but 2 times since he receive prossession for the keys. he is willing to sell now at below developer price. any taker.He invinter me to view the work manship of their project.Iwas shock, purchaser are willing to take such poor quality delivery. i wonder how much will there improve in their quality.

After much cosideration , not not mean to discourage anyone on this project, i m walking away form this project. hopefully i m wrong but i hope what i found out can be of use to anyone who is considering this purchase. good luck folks.Incidentally the falling of water thank as it is famously known is highlighted in china press.Any one beg to differ let us know

pcyeoh
31-03-2004, 09:56 AM
I remember that during the tenure of Dato Ahmad Fuad, that stretch of land between Subang Parade/Carrefour with the Federal Highway was frozen for further development until the RM 50 million interchange was completed. The owners of these plots of land are to share the cost of the interchange. Inspite of the inability of two or three owners to contribute due to their financial problems, MPSJ nevertheless went ahead with teh project as the traffic stituation was getting from bad to worse. But the ruling stays put - no contribution no development approval. Thus the question asked "Is this project one of those who hutang dulu, belakang kira?" CASSA instead of asking so many questions here and sending letters everywhere should turun padang and dig into the truth. Many agencies be it government or non govt will just ignore these letters and when the crunch comes down, 100% of the purchasers will be victimised. For pople with ill intention to take investors for a ride, time is the essence - "You can fool many people most of the time concept".

cskok8
31-03-2004, 02:21 PM
If anyone wants to invest in a property I would suggest they buy a completed one. Then you can see the quality for yourself (not just "artist's impression", make sure that the CF has been issued and preferably with strata title. Otherwise your "investment" may turn out to be a donation to somebody else's retirement fund.

topguru
31-03-2004, 08:08 PM
Here we go again - PC Yeoh!

We are told -

1. " I remember that during the tenure of Dato Ahmad Fuad, that stretch of land between Subang Parade/Carrefour with the Federal Highway was frozen for further development until the RM 50 million interchange was completed. The owners of these plots of land are to share the cost of the interchange. Inspite of the inability of two or three owners to contribute due to their financial problems, MPSJ nevertheless went ahead with teh project as the traffic stituation was getting from bad to worse. But the ruling stays put - no contribution no development approval."

Topguru's Question: So who are these land owners? - I am sure PCYeoh's political master - the one who appointed him to several MPSJ promoted RT Committee's can answer that.

After all, they have constructed and constructed and constructed in Subang Jaya, without hindrance and also sold other prize properties and vacant areas, despite, all the hype and threats from the former YDP and of course this particular politician!

"Frozen" - who said so, thats all poppy cock - only political talk brother!

Who has the political courage to stand up to Sime Darby?
Ahmad, Lee or George?

For the record, this project was approved effectively 4th August 2003!

Could it be perhaps, really perhaps, some machais are angry because their political masters did not get some duit kopi from this project like other projects in Subang Jaya? Or like Rhythm and Newgate where I was told RM800,000.00 changed hands at one point, with more following?

2. "CASSA instead of asking so many questions here and sending letters everywhere should turun padang and dig into the truth."

CASSA is no god like PCY's ADUN but a NGO, privately funded and certainly not appointed/funded by LHB. They are all volunteers. In the first place if the politicians and the civil servants do their job there will be no need for NGOs in the first place - but thats another matter!

In this case, if CASSA has not 'turun padang" this issue and many others would not be highlighted, nor would other excesses and scandals like the infamous million ringgit park, the sinking Tamil School in USJ21, the cracks and sinking of USJ19 houses, wastage on cosmetics, the scandalous Rhythm & Newgate project would not have gone into litigation at the KL High Court!

Letters have to be written - the paper trail is important, thats fundamental in advocacy - but we have to forgive PCY because he has neither the profile, experience nor track record as CASSA but that does not stop him from shooting off his mouth!

It is better that we have the paper trail because even with that - certain politicians are claiming in their Manifestos and Achievements that they are the one who spoke out?

Thats stranger than truth!

CASSA318
01-04-2004, 09:23 AM
The Consumers Association of Subang and Shah Alam, Selangor (CASSA).

Press Release: 1 April 2004

CASSA CLARIFIES : SUBANG JAYA ‘e-tiara’ SERVICED APARTMENTS PROJECT APPROVED BY MPSJ!

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The development order for the ‘e-tiara’ Serviced Apartment project in SS16 Subang Jaya was approved by MPSJ on 4th August 2003.

The clarifications were made by CASSA President/Legal Adviser, Dato' Dr. Jacob George during a press conference called by CASSA today to clarify purchasers “speculation” pertaining to the “approval Status” of the ‘e-tiara’ Serviced Apartment Project in Subang Jaya undertaken by the TITIJAYA GROUP.

CASSA Chief, Dato' Dr. Jacob George added he was briefed by MPSJ deputy president, in a “close door meeting” on Friday 26 March, on the “status of the said project”.

He aslo thanked MPSJ's deputy president, Puan Arpah for enlightening CASSA on the status of the said project.

We are also glad and put on record that we look forward to working very closely with the Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ) to protect consumer’s rights and interests Dr. George added.

As a responsible consumer organization, CASSA 'is obliged and must update and clarify' the ground conditions, since, we highlighted the issue, after been approached by 36 purchasers.

These are our findings thus far:

1. As far as the “controversy” pertaining to the “approvals” of the said project, we herewith state that we have reviewed the ‘development order’ that was approved by the MPSJ dated 4th August 2003 to one Canggih Kota Sdn.Bhd. the present land owner and subsidiary of the TITIJAYA GROUP.

2. We believe the “misunderstanding” arose because the name that appears as the developer in the brochures is one NPO Development Sdn.Bhd. while, the development order came out in the name of one Canggih Kota Sdn.Bhd, whom, we are advised are also from the TITIJAYA GROUP.

3. We are also pleased that the developers cooperated with us in providing answers/documents to answer our questions.

4. We have been officially informed that the Board of TITIJAYA GROUP are desirous to CASSA’s calls for transparency, accountability and good corporate governance and have agreed to integrate CASSA's strategic moves/advice to protect purchasers interest.

5. *Among them, an ‘HDA kind of account’ at Alliance Bank for 'security purposes' monitored by the Bank.

6. *We are also pleased to announce that the developers have indicated to CASSA that the 36 purchasers who complained to CASSA are free to withdraw their deposits without any deductions whatsoever, if, they have any further apprehension.

CASSA believes that the “fear and anxiety” arose because of the previously failed Rhythm and Newgate Avenue projects in USJ19 and 21, which affected more than 2000 purchasers.

The multi prong suits initiated by CASSA for Rhythm & Newgate purchasers is been heard at the KL High Court.

With this clarification, this matter is now laid to rest BUT we like to assure Purchasers that CASSA will HOWEVER monitor closely this project in the public interest, he said.

Meanwhile, TITIJAYA GROUP Chairman, Mr. Abdul Haiyum Bin Abdul Hamid who was present at the press conference, also confirmed that TITIJAYA GROUP, as a responsible and committed developer, thanked CASSA for their timely clarification and looks forward to build a warm and cordial relationship with CASSA and assure purchasers that they will build more excellent and quality properties for Subang Jaya and Shah Alam consumers.



Posted by Puan Noor
f CASSA SECRETARIAT

tnn
01-04-2004, 10:15 AM
thanks CASSA for the update.

nevertheless, think i wud exercise caution base on following:

1. it is still a service apartment & the land has a commercial title to it

2. the rhythm & newgate also had the approval from mpsj but look what happened

3. posting by 'dome' that a friend also bought from the same developer NPO but got a bad deal in terms of quality.

4. RM 150K for 600+ sqft??

orchipalar
01-04-2004, 10:20 AM
Hi CASSA:) - Orchipalar say 'encore' for a great effort by CASSA. As any potential buyer of a piece of this property development would be glad to have a responsible entity to watch out for their rights n plights.:)

However, Orchipalar're afraid to say, although we can afford another piece of property for our growing family, we're not betting our money in this development project. Simply on non committal promises by developers n banks, they can forget about trying to solicitate the commitment from us.

Too many people have suffered the consequences based upon false hopes n promises:(

We have choices, n we have our rights in our own minds n hands, we're buying completed n delivered property only Period:o

Our government say the building industries are not matured enough? Well its about time developers Grow UP! Or they can keep on dreaming to get our signatures on the dotted lines:p

Peter KL
01-04-2004, 01:46 PM
Surprised!
What a turn of event.

What is CASSA going to do with the police report?

Now that CASSA has proved indeed MPSJ gave the approval, how about the other 5 pertinent questions raised by CASSA at the beginning of this forum. Is CASSA or our Dato Dr George going to pursue further or laid to rest.

As a responsible consumers' association, I think CASSA should pursue further those questions raised as they are important to the buyers and the residents of Subang Jaya.

Regarding the “close door meeting” on Friday 26 March, on the “status of the said project”, it sounds quite fishy. CASSA is talking about transparency and accountability, what's the confidential thing about this said project?

Hope that somebody will highlight further on this sudden change of event.

tnn
01-04-2004, 02:41 PM
i think CASSA has done o.k. so far. is our ADUN aware of this project? how come the 36 purchasers didn't approach him?

at least now we are aware of the pros & cons of this project & the developer did say that they will refund the monies put in by purchasers who wants to back out. hope they keep their word.

now the decision lies with people like us whether we want to support this project & developer. better make a wise decision
from the beginning before it's too late...

cskok8
01-04-2004, 02:54 PM
The best thing to do would be to wait for it to be completed, then see whether it is worth buying. I myself would not give any money to any developer to run his business at my risk. If they are not matured enough yet then I suggest they get out of the business.

CASSA318
01-04-2004, 03:13 PM
CASSA REPLIES TO PETER KL:

To our friend who goes by the name of 'Peter KL'.

Saudara "Peter KL" - You raised some questions and I will try to answer them.

1. The Police Report:

A report was made to ask the relevant authorities to investigate whether proper approvals were attained for this project. At this material time the police report made has not and will not be withdrawn.

2. However, the Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ) met CASSA President/Legal Adviser and clarified that the said project received its development order/approval on 4th August 2003.
So the question of an illegal project does not arise!

3. CASSA received official documents to prove that approval - so that question was answered and the interest of "transparency and accountability" which you refered to, was in our opinion, met!

But CASSA takes offence and so would officials at MPSJ in your attempt to smear that cordial meeting of the 25 March between MPSJ-CASSA as "fishy"!

Peter KL what is so "fishy" about that meeting?
If you continue to think so, please feel free to lodge a police report against me in your person. Let the police investigate me.

CASSA had questions which needed immediate answers before we released another statement that may have had drastic legal implications for CASSA IF we were wrong and MPSJ Officials obliged and were kind enough to provide immediate assistance.

Please be cautious as "Writing under a nick" does not provide immunity to possible slander or libel.

As for your other questions - indeed, if you were honestly seeking an answer - the press release effectively answers them in para 16b:

".....BUT we like to assure Purchasers that CASSA will HOWEVER monitor closely this project in the public interest, he said."

Yes CASSA continues to monitor and would continue to interact with the relevant authorities to make certain that there will be no repeat of the Rhythm & Newgate scenario here in SS16 and questions we raised finds answers.


Dato' Dr. Jacob George
President/Legal Adviser
CASSA

Ryan
01-04-2004, 09:01 PM
oh well, startin to regret not taking up law back then. haha

cassa318, im wondering if cassa has a website or anyway to contact CASSA to make a complaint of being a unsatisfied consumer?

aimless
05-04-2004, 04:45 PM
ryan

they have a site:

http://www.cassa.org.my/

ftan
06-04-2004, 09:53 AM
Hi Dr.Jacob,

I'm one of the purchasers of e-tiara. So far, I've paid the booking fee.

Reading the comments from this forum is most disturbing.

Have the 36 purchasers opted for the full refund?

Who do I contact if I want further clarification?

Thank you.

Regards,
ftan

bazz
06-04-2004, 11:23 AM
*I'm using an -yawn- icon this time....

once again, CASSA released an <b>irresponsible Press Release</b>!!!

Readers, Forum-ers, ladies and gentlemens... Let's zoom in and drill down what cassa wrote in the Press Release..

<i>Quoted: CASSA318, 25 March 2004</i>
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IS THE �e-tiara� SERVICED APARTMENTS PROJECT IN SUBANG JAYA APPROVED BY MPSJ?

<b>look!! This is a question.. it is not a statement.. this shows that even CASSA themself didnt know exactly the status.... they didn't do any background research and didnt come out with scientific figures, supporting documents and etc..</b>
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<i>Quoted: CASSA318, 1 April 2004</i>
<hr>
Press Release: 1 April 2004
CASSA CLARIFIES : SUBANG JAYA �e-tiara� SERVICED APARTMENTS PROJECT APPROVED BY MPSJ!

<b>Now CASSA go and do research and found they are wrong...</b>
<hr>

<b>Question 1: Is CASSA did something right this time to protect our consumer?</b>
In my own opinion, <b>NO</b>. Because CASSA had create <b>unnecessary fears</b> among us as consumer!!!!

<hr>

<b>Question 2: Who will pay us the opportunity lost if we didnt buy/invest because of the statement and the value of property increased??</b>

CASSA??? I dunno... who will responsible for that??? If a buyer refund their booking fees and that particular unit increased 15%?? how will pay us the 15% loss?????? <b>Now, CASSA said that the earlier release is NOT TRUE</b>

<hr>

<b>Question 3: What Commercial Loss for the Business/Commercial people (e.g. Developer in this case) because of the irresponsible statement??</b>

In my opinion, Developer's reputation is be affected.. Who will pay for this?? CASSA?? Project already approved and <b>CASSA tell us "LIES"</b>.. all the buyer runs away and the commercial people cannot make profit...

THINK OF ALL THE WORKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES... THIS WILL CAUSE UNNECESSARY LOST FOR THE ECONOMY OF MALAYSIA!!


In reply to ftan,
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<b>Who do I contact if I want further clarification? </b>

No need futher clarification, CASSA clarify themselve.. luckily this time they did admit they are wrong!!!!
<hr>

Quoted: ftan:
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<b>Have the 36 purchasers opted for the full refund? </b>

I dont think purchaser want to refund since CASSA's statement is not true.. <b>Project APPROVED</b>
<hr>

In conclusion from CASSA, <b>Project Approved</b> and they posted an irresponsible and wrong statement. This statement creates unnecessary fears to the public and <b>bring harms to NATION'S ECONOMY</b>

joeblack
06-04-2004, 10:34 PM
hi guys ,
found out more about his project.

Hendry Butcher is unable to show us the buliding plan approval.

Hendry butcher claim the developer represented by them on this project has done many development project which i had check ,some of their claims for the developer is not true. dont know weather this is a markerting strategy for a renown company to misrepresent the client on their behalf.prove of the false claims can be sent to the public if it is requested.

Does Hendry Butcher knows of is a partner in the conspiracy to mislead the public?

ftan
07-04-2004, 08:24 AM
Hi,

I thought MPSJ has already given the approval. I'm assuming the building plan is the same issue here?

Which of the development projects that were not true? I've looked briefly at the list and most were unfamiliar to me.

Thanks.

Regards,
ftan

pcyeoh
07-04-2004, 08:55 AM
Over the last two weeks, many statements are being made here and some are very confused whether these are true or false. I suggest that the person who make the statement provide the name, company and the contact number for those who need to verify their sources. Do not make sweeping or generalised statement. Anyone can post anything here incognito and sometimes I have a strong feeling that the parties involved could easily register themselves here and post positive statements to neutralise the situation. I am not only refering to this subject matter alone. I just can't believe that Henry Butcher, a reputable company will take up this outsourcing marketing project without a thorough check as they are also liable for any misleading representation.

joeblack
10-04-2004, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by ftan
Hi Dr.Jacob,

I'm one of the purchasers of e-tiara. So far, I've paid the booking fee.

Reading the comments from this forum is most disturbing.

Have the 36 purchasers opted for the full refund?

Who do I contact if I want further clarification?

Thank you.

Regards,
ftan
i advice u ask about building plan. ask why they are taking so long to sign u sales and purchase aggrement . i tell u why , it beacuse they do not havr alll the necessary documents for the agreeement.

I wonder what CAAC is so proud about their findings .

joeblack
12-04-2004, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by pcyeoh
Over the last two weeks, many statements are being made here and some are very confused whether these are true or false. I suggest that the person who make the statement provide the name, company and the contact number for those who need to verify their sources. Do not make sweeping or generalised statement. Anyone can post anything here incognito and sometimes I have a strong feeling that the parties involved could easily register themselves here and post positive statements to neutralise the situation. I am not only refering to this subject matter alone. I just can't believe that Henry Butcher, a reputable company will take up this outsourcing marketing project without a thorough check as they are also liable for any misleading representation.

Of course accuses here made by us has some basis. other wise the developer will bring evidences of false accusation. till today they simply wish we will get tired and go away. ok tell them to posted wat ever there have in this forum to prove us wrong.

About appearing as a reall name, i think the developer know who we are cos we are there buyers. it is not difficult for them to know who we are and because we have evidences on our acussation, ok challenge the developer to hold a press confrences and prove us wrong. like their false claims on project development,their approval building plans , not eventually but now . is commercially catogery costing us more in all services,why is sales purchases not sign till today or are they stll ll ironing out some approval.ask them yourself are there the developer for the bad finishingin in klang's project.
Developer we appreciate. if they here for long term and do deliver what they claim. this purchases we make are usually invlove with a life time saving, and half a life of repayment. when it comes to deliverly we have a up hill climb cos we are dealing with a company who have taken all our money and the bank loan is now our baby.Yes out of frustration of what has being delivered. this is to warn anyone interested in their project.To be fair , they not the only developer who use this method to sell. promise u haven.see their smile when there sell u the property then push u to get u loanand then you are in the trap and they do what ever thay want time to deliver keys. if u not happy about deliver after a certain period it is consider keys delivered,
with this system of purchases please be warn of who u developer is. then all kind or reasoning why u should take deliverly cos u cant fight us alone. (haha).thye ask for full payment for all u owne them in interest but for late deliverly they say 50% take it all leave it.Now, at this juncture, you have all u life saving sunk in and a bank calling u every month on repayment and the developer are laughing to the bank. its your problem from now on.

As i had say come take a look at what being deliver. What has being say is not done with malice but morally warn . final anyalasis it is your momey and your choice IF YOU CHOSE NOT TO BELIEVE.

CAAC please give us up date on what has being brought up and not just white wash a problem.

sirxl
26-04-2004, 07:08 PM
Hi there... I've been reading this column ever since I booked a unit early April 2004... It's been a roller coaster ride for myself and my wife.

We were very hesitant to even sign the housing loan offered by Alliance Bank for a few weeks...... but after much thought and queries to the Site office and Bank officers, I finally signed it yesterday at the Bank's branch in Ikana Power Centre....
I was told that earlier, one person had also taken a loan at the mentioned branch...

Does anyone have updates on this project ?

achee
26-04-2004, 11:42 PM
e-tiara has only received the 'development order', but no where mentioned the 'building approval'.

These are 2 separate approvals. Can CASSA find out when (will) the building approval granted? .:confused: Without one, the superstructure cannot be erected, though selling have started. Remember, the development is not under the eye of MOH.


.....Achee curious!....

ftan
07-05-2004, 08:26 PM
Hi,

I have received a letter from NPO (Titijaya) stating that the signing of the S&P and Deed of Mutual Covenants will be on the 15th & 16th May.

I am wondering what the Deed of Mutual Covenants is about.


Regards,
ftan

isarahim
10-05-2004, 08:53 AM
3. CASSA received official documents to prove that approval - so that question was answered and the interest of "transparency and accountability" which you refered to, was in our opinion, met!
1. Did this include the EIA study as requested earlier?

2. If so, were there input from or communication with adjacent residents and neighbourhood residents included in this report?

3. Were the criteria for approval and the fulfilment of those criteria clearly stated in the approval document or in the EIA study?

4. When will this information be published?

I do not think it is possible to claim "transparency and accountability" without these questions being answered positively.

isarahim
10-05-2004, 09:02 AM
To be fair , they not the only developer who use this method to sell. promise u haven.see their smile when there sell u the property then push u to get u loanand then you are in the trap and they do what ever thay want time to deliver keys. if u not happy about deliver after a certain period it is consider keys delivered,
This is a malpractice and is illegal in every country I know of except Malaysia.

jeffooi
12-06-2004, 10:39 AM
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