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fonzie
14-12-2003, 11:08 PM
It's 1045pm.....just tuned in to Astro....

Saddam captured!

Catch it on CNN and BBC!

Cheers!
FonZie

Joecool
15-12-2003, 06:47 PM
At least this is an event that I will celebrate. That mass murderer should get a thousand death sentence.

Cool Hand Luke
15-12-2003, 08:09 PM
Joecool - There are many in Iraq and other Muslim countries who see him as a hero. No. I am not disagreeing with you. I am just curious as to how people of the world arrive at different conclusions on the same matter.

Joecool
16-12-2003, 08:54 AM
I am sure many would disagree with me. Heck it is their right to do so. And I respect that. I just have no respect to leaders who take away a man's right to disagree.

TepenPucong
16-12-2003, 09:32 AM
I would like to quote from Joe :

That mass murderer should get a thousand death sentence.

If that the case, they should get several other leaders which may have misused their powers. Saddam is one of them and I think one should consider Bush, Blair and Howard.. since they also give orders to make an attack which kills and make it a mass too.

Cool Hand Luke
16-12-2003, 03:57 PM
Joecool - Well, unfortunately (or fortunately - it depends on how you view it) there are many leaders who 'takes away a man's right to disagree'. Even in the so-called democratic countries, many leaders do not condone disagreement. In the imperfect world we live in - even at corporate levels or even family levels, very often we disagree at our own detirement.

:)

trifecta
16-12-2003, 04:40 PM
It's finally good to see the madman captured but I find his treatment a bit disgusting, they basically paraded him on television like a bewildered animal. Don't get me wrong, I find it good that there is one less maniac out there in this world, but I though that the US would be bigger than this.

Joecool
16-12-2003, 06:22 PM
True that many leaders today do not condone disagreement and many such leaders here in Malaysia as well. What am I going to do about it? Nothing. They are basically an elected lot. But as the saying goes - truth is never determined by majority vote.

Death is too much for Saddam? Or too little? Depending on what your thinking is I guess. But what could be worse than death is perhaps aptly mentioned by an old Arabic curse - "May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his xxxx"

Cool Hand Luke
19-12-2003, 01:03 PM
Saddam's Daughter doubts he can get a Fair Trial in Iraq

AMMAN, Jordan (CNN) -- Raghad Hussein, the eldest daughter of deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, said Thursday she believes that if her father is to be tried, it should be before an international court. In her first on-camera interview since her father's capture Saturday, Raghad told CNN she disagrees with plans to try Saddam before an Iraqi court.

"Of course I don't believe he'll receive a fair trial because it will be conducted by an unrecognized party," she said. "The interim government is not recognized internationally, nor in the Arab world. It has not been recognized by anyone, so by what right will the trial proceed? I want a fair trial under international supervision, and we have a right as his daughters to appoint an attorney to defend him."

She also alleged that her father, as seen in videotape shot after U.S. forces found him hiding near Tikrit, had been drugged. Raghad said the man shown on television was not the father she knew. "Anyone with insight could tell from the first instance that my father was not fully conscious," she said. "As a daughter, I told them from the start, my father is drugged. I am 100 percent convinced. My personal expectation is that one of the people he relied on must have put something in his food, or that there is a military technique of some sort or a gas that can drug a person. Because I know my father and he would never surrender."

Raghad said she initially learned of her father's capture from television news coverage that began as she was watching a soap opera. She watched for several hours in disbelief, she said, waiting for someone to tell her the news was not true. When she finally accepted the truth, Raghad said, she sat down on the floor and cried. "The effect of the TV shots were horrific," she said of the first images that showed her father looking unkempt and bewildered. It was really horrific, painful and very cruel, it wounded me very deeply."

Asked about reports that her father told U.S. soldiers when he emerged: "I am Saddam Hussein, president of Iraq, and I want to negotiate," Raghad said she didn't believe it. "That is what they said. But whoever saw it and heard it ... If it were true, why didn't they film the capture, as they claimed it had happened in the media? It was an event they had been waiting for a long time, they supposedly should have filmed it from the very beginning." She said her father was known for his "courage and steadfastness. I witnessed through my years his strength, his endurance through all the difficult periods he went through. He was always proud and dignified and his courage was well known, even to his enemies."

Raghad said she hopes to visit her father at some point, if it is legally possible. She and her sister Rana escaped the war in Iraq and now live in Jordan, where they were granted government sanctuary. Their two brothers, Uday and Qusay, were killed in a shootout with U.S. troops in July in Mosul. A third daughter, Hala, is married to Gen. Jamal Mustafa Abdallah Sultan al-Tikriti, who surrendered to U.S. forces May 17. He was No. 10 on the coalition's list of 55 most-wanted Iraqis. Raghad and Rana have been estranged from their father for some time. In 1995, they defected to Jordan with their husbands -- Hussein and Saddam Kamal. From Jordan, the brothers called for a revolution, and Saddam Kamal revealed Iraqi weapons secrets to U.S., British and Jordanian officials.

Six months later, their father-in-law lured them back to Iraq with promises of forgiveness. After they arrived, however, they were killed in a 13-hour shootout at a house near Baghdad. The shootout is believed to have been organized by Uday and Qusay at their father's request. After that, Raghad and Rana were held under virtual house arrest in Iraq until their escape to Jordan last summer.

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Fair trial? What an irony. I wonder about all those hundreds of thousands of people who 'died' during his regime. Did they ever get a fair trial?