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forknspoon
03-10-2003, 05:08 PM
The occasional question that we ask when we suddenly feel very, very, very small....

Here's a slightly twisted but interesting view on the meaning of life:

http://www.aristotle.net/~diogenes/meaning1.htm#questions1


Cheers,
:)

left side hung
06-10-2003, 02:27 AM
i dont think there is a meaning to life.
or, it simply doesn't matter. do what you will with the time you have, then you leave. sometimes, its really that simple.

i apologize for not following the link.

forknspoon
06-10-2003, 03:31 PM
Sure. No worries. Your views are most welcomed.

:)

joker2107
09-10-2003, 12:42 PM
hi i'm back. very much still alive. had to explain my observation of life, even if its not original. besides i also has to proof that i'm not expired stuff yet.:)

very simply and accurately put, life is a std.:D
(ps. for those who do not know whats std, pls ask dr ranjit (near mbb sj).

bye 4 now. i'd probably not be seeing much action here for a while yet. my pc at home retired b4 expiry date and i've also got another web site to administer. can't tell u which is the site until i'm unveiled.

thanks for all the fun, till i'm back.
ps one more pun for life - life is short.

Joecool
09-10-2003, 02:34 PM
For me it is not so much the meaning, rather the purpose of life. For me, I was not brought into life with my blessings. I think given a chance, I would rather not come into being. But having being born, I will make the best of it. Learning everyday, ensuring that I make my mark and of course propagating my species without over populating the earth. I work so that I can live rather than live to work.

Fat-Huntress
15-10-2003, 01:47 AM
I think Life is like a game of God who created their mmorpg to play with. we are the NPCS and AI who programmed by the GODS.

THE GMS WOULD BE INVISIBLE AND THERE ARE GOD(PLAYERS) WHO ARE WANDERING AROUND US AND KILLING MONSTERS.


anyway jk..
i think life is ...i dunno lol live with it.

joker2107
18-10-2003, 03:15 PM
as posted by clfoo in the thread on poverty we never see.

Life
Life is an opportunity, benefit from it.
Life is beauty, admire it.
Life is bliss, taste it.
Life is a dream, realise it.
Life is a challenge, meet it.
Life is a duty, complete it.
Life is a game, play it.
Life is costly, care for it.
Life is wealth, keep it.
Life is love, enjoy it.
Life is mystery, know it.
Life is a promise, fulfil it.
Life is sorrow, overcome it.
Life is a song, sing it.
Life is a struggle, accept it.
Life is tragedy, confront it.
Life is an adventure, dare it.
Life is luck, make it.
Life is too precious, do not destroy it.
Life is life, fight for it.
* Mother Teresa

Cool Hand Luke
19-04-2004, 11:08 PM
I have been giving a lot of thoughts to the meaning of life recently. What is the meaning of life?

Sitting in the corner in an old armchair of a darkened bar with a Chivas and a Havana cigar while listening to the fat lady singing 'Summertime' to the music of jazz. Half listening to her haunting voice singing....

Summertime, and the livin' is easy
Fish are jumpin' and the cotton is high
Oh, your daddy's rich and your ma is good-lookin'
So hush little baby, Don't you cry
One of these mornings you're gonna rise up singing
And you'll spread your wings and you'll take to the sky
But 'til that morning, there ain't nothin' can harm you
With Daddy and Mammy standin' by.

and half dreaming of faraway lands; of making love in a cozy cabin under snow-capped mountains or laying awake in a sweat soaked bed in a tiny room with a slow moving ceiling fan above a bar in New Orleans.

To me, I think that is the meaning of life.

whling
19-04-2004, 11:49 PM
dreaming? fantasy?

orchipalar
20-04-2004, 12:01 AM
Hi Master Luke:) - You especially never fails to amaze Orchi. In fact, Orchi just heard this song lately being sung by a lovely contestant by the name of 'Fantasia', whom Orchi is betting on to win the current 'American Idol' singing competitions, singing n shining, all the way out of 'New Orleans n USA', n all the way to malaysian shore to where Orchi would have a bit more to look forward to listening n watching her in this competitions to the finals. This lady amazes Orchi with her singing n appearance, just as 'William Hung' has, but on a far differences of perspectives.

So, if you are asking what Orchi's perspectives about living? Well well, it would be about Orchi's living through life's full of the letter 'a(s)' such as amazement, amusement, admirations, adversity, aesthetics, adventures, adolescence, adaptations, adjustment, adjustications, adequacy, admonition, adorations, aftermaths, agony, arguments, ambitions, anniversaries, angers, awakening, n whatever is there in a dictionary. :D

tan_r
20-04-2004, 12:23 AM
As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.

You guys should read this book by James Allen. Just 28 pages and you can dowbload the e-Book for free from http://asamanthinketh.net. No gimmicks, just some simple registration.

After you have read it, come back and tell us what you think.

Cool Hand Luke
20-04-2004, 07:23 AM
Whling - It is neither a dream nor a fantasy. If you have not understood what I was saying, then you have missed out a great deal on what is the meaning of life!

:)

Cool Hand Luke
20-04-2004, 07:40 AM
Life is not about living Reality all the times. That blunts the spirit and kills the soul. Life is about living Reality through a different pane of existence - one of sensuality, excitement, calmness and tranquility. To do that, one has to get rid of cynicism and not bottled by constant reminders of 'what it should be' or 'how it should be done'. In a world of happiness and contentment, such impositions do not exist. I can find the meaning of life while sitting along in the steam-room where I am totally alone except for the water, heat and hissing of steam. I can find the meaning of life while sitting here, sharing these thoughts with you. I can find the meaning of life while having a coffee and make conversation with a good friend. As I have said, Life is not about living Reality all the time.... Please give some thoughts to what I have said.

Now do I make any sense, or is it still dreams and fantasies to some?

:)

satish
20-04-2004, 09:06 AM
:D

CHL..U R absolutely correct...

Read somewhere that "Life is what U want to make it".

CHeers!

whling
20-04-2004, 12:46 PM
Still is :p at least to me, it's quite diff to reach your level

Cool Hand Luke
20-04-2004, 04:34 PM
Ah. All you need is practices. And an open mind and heart.

:)

orchipalar
20-04-2004, 07:52 PM
Hi Master Luke:) - You could have told Orchi that 'teh tarik' isn't your cuppa tea. Let's get together next time with the bunch of jolly good fellas at Logenhaus instead? The wine or bubbly is on Orchi. IF that isn't appealing enough? How about inviting your NikeBeautiful along for the get together. Thinking this way, you might not have any difficulty of choosing whom to be with next time? But then again, if you insist, we could also hop to Starbuck for your cuppa caffeine.:D Wouldn't this be slightly meaningful to do too?

Cool Hand Luke
20-04-2004, 08:16 PM
Oh? Why Starbucks in particular? I wasn't aware that I mentioned about it as my favourite place. I have always prefer Coffee Bean. Er... I think you have posted in the wrong thread. This one is about the meaning of life!

aimless
20-04-2004, 10:37 PM
how bout this as an alternative life-philosophy?

Life sucks... then you die.

:cool:

Cool Hand Luke
20-04-2004, 10:48 PM
That certainly is an alternative life philosophy and it suits your nick to the core, Aimless.

:D

mandy
21-04-2004, 04:02 AM
I know nothing about the meaning of life. All I know is how to take one thing at a time to get by. Life is tough and that's the reality. This world is all about how well you survive; you need to knock down wall after wall so that you are not the only one left with no chair when the music stops. Life is about save yourself from being homeless and do everything you could to avoid hunger and misery.

Everything you possess, starts from your physical appearance to your intelligence and mental toughness, determines your bargaining power and competitiveness. That's what separates the rich and poor. It's all about the survival of the fittest. Nobody can be weak because if you do, you will be eaten up alive.

Joecool, you sound like life has not been kind to you. I believe you have done all you possibly could to do well. Keep plugging.

Cool Hand Luke
21-04-2004, 07:12 AM
Mandy - I can relate to what you have said. Reality is never a bed of roses for anybody. If people here for a moment think that my life has been wonderful and that I could afford not to work and drink Chivas, smoke Havana and sit in the jazz bar every night, they are dead wrong. I still maintain what I have said earlier. Life is not about living Reality all the times. That blunts the spirit and kills the soul. Life is about living Reality through a different pane of existence - one of sensuality, excitement, calmness and tranquility.

:) But of course, you are free to live the life you see fit.

forknspoon
21-04-2004, 08:00 AM
To be accurate, it's not 'Life sucks...then you die', it's

'Life's a Bitch (And Then You Die)'

It's a song by Michael Johnson. You can hear the song at:

http://www.mjblue.com/mjclips.html


:D

aimless
21-04-2004, 08:55 AM
hahaha - thanks....

yeah, i know the original is "life's a bitch... then you die"

but i just think "life sucks.... then you die" sounds catchier!!

aimless
21-04-2004, 09:28 AM
oh yeah, luke - i suppose it DOES suit my nick... BWAHAHA

KH EE
21-04-2004, 12:30 PM
Thot of spending the day sorting out my tax thingy while reading soothing threads but no... there goes the bazz/cassa thingy.

Don't know why but something in me "clicked" in answering/giving solicited & unsolicited opinions re:bazz/cassa.

Must be the fact that engtex/bazz are the Davids in this scenario with cassa being the Goliath. I've always rooted for the underdogs & maybe this was just another one.

So what's life? All I know is No Man Is An Island. pondering...

creativ
21-04-2004, 01:06 PM
Life is about relationship and love.

Human Life is not about possession, fame, fortune, power or "suvival to the fittest".

On your deathbed about to die, would you ask "please bring me my car, my bankbook, my diploma/degree, rolex watch, I want to see them before I die", or would you rather be around with the people you love?

Go figure.

janelim
21-04-2004, 01:18 PM
Oh, i have lots to talk about life..

"getting up in the morning with a word of thanks that i am still alive...."
"giving a kiss to my beautiful plants and my doberman pincher"
"my Paul Anka; Bee Gees; Simon & Garf. songs"
"my COFFEE"
"my next travelling holidays coming up soon.."

i have so much more to share about life's a beau..and in short don't try to be a winner all the time. It kills, not others, BUT YOU.

simon_tan
21-04-2004, 02:00 PM
Does anyone recall the movie - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life ?, now, that I can relate to...

tan_r
21-04-2004, 02:31 PM
I saw in a car bumper somewhere long ago: LIFE is a 4-letter word. :D

whling
21-04-2004, 07:58 PM
hmm.. reality and fantasy, sometimes, I really fancy about being an idliot/mindless person, they live in their small perfect world while others look at them like " you are so pity, how lucky am I? " ....... Wonder will they pity us who live in a reality which is like a cold hard stone...

Maybe I should learn from CHL and try to be "selective idliot" sometimes.... hehe :D This is a compliment, seriously.

(to clear thing up, this is merely a joke, I afraid I will be taken to court - just finished reading the dispute btw bazz and cassa :p)

P/S: I like this smily :p

Cool Hand Luke
21-04-2004, 08:26 PM
Whling - You may have a point there about being a 'selective idiot'! I never consider them as mindless or idiots. They are very lovely people who are being challenged daily in things which we take for granted. I worked with them in the Summer of 78 with these teenagers in a picturesque village in the New Forest. It changed me as a person.

:)

mandy
21-04-2004, 09:57 PM
Still debating about the meaning of life? Well, you form your perspective based on your experience. That's it. I see life as a battlefield. I have applied for a lecturer position in Saudi Arabia hoping to make enough money so that I could settle for life. People say I am crazy but I see it as high risk, high reward kind of venture. Some of you mentioned that life was not about material. Absolutely correct! But we are living in a meterial world that requires real cash. The expensive mortage loan, the crazy son's or daughter's education expense, medical expenses etc. etc. etc. We can't ignore these.

aimless
21-04-2004, 09:58 PM
Where is this "New Forest," Luke?

Selective idiot.... hmmmm.... I like! :D

Cool Hand Luke
21-04-2004, 10:03 PM
Aimless - New Forest, Hampshire, South of England.

Mandy - It is your choice because it is your life :) You are growing bitter before you grow old. I thought only old geezer like me am supposed to be bitter. I like what Jane has said: "getting up in the morning with a word of thanks that i am still alive....".

mandy
21-04-2004, 10:13 PM
CHL,

hhahahahahaha!! You are right! I am growing bitter and bitter in my late 20s! Life in North America has taken its toll on me.

Sound like you had learnt valuable things from New Forest. :)

Cool Hand Luke
21-04-2004, 10:16 PM
I was very young when I was doing volunteer work with special teenagers and children in the New Forest. You take good care of yourself, Mandy.

whling
22-04-2004, 12:14 AM
I would like to believe Life is not just about working working working and working.... but it's a hard fact in front of me.



:p

aimless
22-04-2004, 08:28 AM
yes. that does seem to be the malaysian way. you are expected to work work work. your ass belongs to your company.... overtime, undertime, work at home at night.... i see all these things, all of which i think are sad... think we need to collectively make a stand against this. if we die, the company will promptly have us replaced... but our loved ones - they can never replace us. (well, hopefully, anyway!)

jericho
22-04-2004, 09:00 AM
meaning of life ?

always remember Life is beautiful and you will be happy instead of bitter.....

Cool Hand Luke
22-04-2004, 01:44 PM
Life is Beautiful. I would add on to what Jericho has said, if I may. It is a state of mind and once you got it right, it becomes a physical state and leads to extensions of your physical state. A little explanation on the latter.... I try not to let obnoxious people bother me. And I am sure you would agree that there are many such people around and they take great joy to destroy the extensions of your physical state.

:)

Cool Hand Luke
22-04-2004, 07:41 PM
Coming from Giant Hypermarket direction and moving towards USJ2 at 6.30 pm. The downpour has fizzled to a light drizzle. Through the droplets of water on my windscreen, I could see the red sun and magnificent evening sky. The wet roads and wet cars. Such a muffling and enveloping effect. The stereo on my car was playing Nat King Cole's 'Unforgettable'.

That was what I meant by the meaning of life.

whling
22-04-2004, 09:15 PM
Interesting life philosophy or should I say good imagination?

maybe that's what life abouot :p

orchipalar
22-04-2004, 09:50 PM
Hi:) - Orchi sees the word 'Reality' here sometimes, n somewhere too. On that basis of considerations for the people who live life's under the vast differences of circumstances n time, for Orchi, would say the same as some of you have said earlier, that 'Life is a bitch..' n 'Life sucks' for the time being. How ever Orchi wishes to live life's differently for the better, the reality of the matters n circumstances faced currently or in the future, are almost always beyond Orchi's likings n controls.

At the same time, one can be content about 'being lucky to be alive', another would express contempt to life's injustice.

While one marvel's to unforgettable moments of living life, another is dreadful of Life's misfortunes n misgivings.

When one is overjoyed from life's newborn, another weeps over life's passing.

Since one overcomes life's greatest challenge, another remorses over life's wrongdoing.

How one celebrate life's joy, another lives in disgust of life's living.:)

Cool Hand Luke
22-04-2004, 09:53 PM
Whling - You would never understand, not in a million years. It was not imagination. It was what I saw. You may choose to see mud but then that is your choice.

:)

mandy
22-04-2004, 10:19 PM
CHL,

I wish I have your wisdom.

Cool Hand Luke
22-04-2004, 10:25 PM
Mandy - Some calls it insanity.

orchipalar
22-04-2004, 10:39 PM
Hi Master Luke:) - NO. It is not insanity. Mandy:) is right. How Orchi wishes Orchi has just a bit more from your wisdom n 'deep' thoughts. You are right in your own way. Unfortunately, some would disagree.:)

Hi Mandy:) - How is the water doing today? Ooops..if you are in the States side, like Lady-O would put it - How are you doing today? or else Orchi might need to greet you differently - Yo wok is going down maan? Orchi can't remember so well about water quality in the States. But certainly would recall that whenever the tap is 'turn on', it would make an eerie noice comin through from the water pipes.:) In fact, Orchi recalls now that coming May 1st, as we would celebrate 'labor day', for States side, they do that on different date?

Cool Hand Luke
23-04-2004, 08:48 AM
I have no problems with disagreement. In fact, I would like people to disagree because everybody looks at life (or rather their lives) differently. So what is the meaning of life to you, Orchi?

:)

aimless
23-04-2004, 08:58 AM
i think to dear orchi, it's Clean Water.

Firefly
23-04-2004, 09:19 AM
Got this in the mail this morning. It's nice.

http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/windowmovie.html

It kind of show what we are actually doing with our life.

orchipalar
23-04-2004, 09:37 AM
Hi Master Luke:) - How is the water doing today? Perhaps you have missed Orchi's second last post on this topic, err..it is the one before Orchi's applepolishing one.

In a nother week or so, Orchi should be trying hard to find the mood to 'celebrating' Orchi's birthday. Instead due to prior 'engagement', Orchi would be away on a trip for a couple of days. Surely, little Orchis n wifey wouldn't be happy that they won't be able to 'celebrate' the occassion with Orchi, which they were looking forward to it recently.

Besides that, come May 9th, while plenty would be looking forward to celebrating n honouring one of life's greatest 'anniversary' - Mother's Day, Orchi would be remorsing Orchi's ma - passing.

So Master Luke, from this moment till then, Orchi would be wondering what if 'touch wood' or 'choy choy', what it would be like, or whatever can be expected of happening, should something else bad could come of the near future happening to Orchi.

Orchi shall see any sunrises or sunsets, just as they are, sunrise n sunset. When it rains while Orchi is in the car driving, Orchi wouldn't be thinking anything about the beautiful rain droplets on the windscreen, or somebody elses wet car. Orchi wouldn't even stop to think for a moment about the towering crane's potential dangers.

Orchi would have to try harder to concentrate on the driving, n trying to make it home in one piece, or be where Orchi is needed, n to make sure that Orchi would be wherever Orchi is expected to be for Orchi's dearest families n friends.:)

Until such moment, when Orchi is called upon to leave this world for good, Orchi would be praying hard for 'goodness' 's blessings, n be wishing miracles could happen soon, to this 'goodness' foresaken world that Orchi is living in.

For the time being though, Orchi still be saying 'Life is a bitch n life sucks' (period).:D

orchipalar
23-04-2004, 11:03 AM
Hi Firefly:) - TQ for the link to 'goodness'. This would come in handy one day for Orchi. TQ again. Orchi believes, Orchi would be having the opportunity to have an 'interview' with 'goodness' then.

Until then, can anyone tell Orchi, where Orchi could go, if ever Orchi wishes to make an appointment with 'goodness'?

Then again, who else wouldn't be asking the same question, when the time comes.:)

forknspoon
23-04-2004, 11:36 AM
Firefly,

Breathtaking visuals...leaves you in awe.




:)

Firefly
23-04-2004, 12:29 PM
laracroft?? Why is it so firmilar?? Tomb Raiders is it not??

Like the pictures of Europe. Were you ther just this pass winter? and the oops. hehehe

forknspoon
23-04-2004, 01:35 PM
Yeah. Angelina Jolie is a forknspoon wannabe :p

orchipalar
23-04-2004, 02:04 PM
Hi Forknspoons:) - How is the water doing today?

Nice pics, wow, that's not the works of amateurs, you are a pro! Err..your avatar just bamboo-ed any potential 'secret admirers' of yours, whom might wanabe dating you?:D

BTW, great topic.:)

Cool Hand Luke
23-04-2004, 07:45 PM
On 22nd April, I posted this:

"Coming from Giant Hypermarket direction and moving towards USJ2 at 6.30 pm. The downpour has fizzled to a light drizzle. Through the droplets of water on my windscreen, I could see the red sun and magnificent evening sky. The wet roads and wet cars. Such a muffling and enveloping effect. The stereo on my car was playing Nat King Cole's 'Unforgettable'."

Today, I came from Giant Hypermarket direction and moving towards US2 at 7.25 pm. What the &()&^%. Why traffic lights so slow to change? That idiot driver cut in front of me. I gave him the middle finger. Just look at that stupid motorcylist. Hey, you bodoh. You want to die kah? It was beginning to rain again. What the &())&%$#.

Now that could be my meaning of life. Which one would you choose? The second episode may be closer realities for many. But as I have said again and again, we do not have to live our realities all the time.

:)

orchipalar
23-04-2004, 08:41 PM
Hi Master Luke:) - Slightly more that 3 weeks ago, Orchi posted the o++K{_+})&*^&%^$%#$@#!@ issue about the *&%*&%& collapsed drain. So, despite the 'agony' of seeing nothing being done to it by the authority, Orchi still tries to put up with it, making fun of it, going nuts over it, n even saw a 'potential' from it to get some publicity, going naked dippin in the murky water.

Orchi n you, just like everybody else, do share some common denomination n similarity in how our hopeful lives are lived.

Orchi too, longs for doing 'better things', n hopes for 'greater things' to happen from Orchi's mind n body. Orchi thus begs for more time before Orchi could see 'real changes' for any good to come out of whatever short future that Orchi might enjoy to get.:)

Cool Hand Luke
23-04-2004, 08:58 PM
You missed the point when you said "Orchi n you, just like everybody else, do share some common denomination n similarity in how our hopeful lives are lived". You don't understand. I do not look at it as 'how our hopeful lives are lived' but I actually do see stars and not mud. It is not about hope because I am living it right now. This minute. It is my reality. Listen to what ForknSpoon is saying: "Here i am, alone and living". She understands the meaning of life.

:)

whling
24-04-2004, 01:02 AM
CHL, you would be surprised that I did that sometimes, but it just that once you are off that, you go back to the reality, and it hits really really hard. :p

orchipalar
24-04-2004, 03:24 AM
Hi Master Luke:) - Orchi was asked of the question(So what is the meaning of life to you, Orchi?). Orchi wasn't the one setting the conditions on how Orchi should or shouldn't give answers to the question. Orchi wasn't certainly the one who is setting standards or whatever the one wishes to call it, of how one should or should not understand the 'real' meaning of life.

Orchi appreciates your visions of seeing stars from mud. Just like Orchi understands your visions of seeing a wonderfully decorated n lit up christmas tree out of a tall, messy, n untrimmed mango tree.

Orchi just had recently witnessed 'a dream to have an interview with god', by now infact most people here would have witnessed the same. From that, Orchi could believe 'god' is right, when 'god' says '2 people can see the same thing differently'.

Later Orchi learnt that Orchi could also appreciate 'god', when 'god' says 'the rich person is not one who has the most, but is one who needs the least'.

So Orchi says, by the looks of things, Orchi would say that no matter how one wishes to look at things, otherthan seeing 'reality' of things, one would have to wake up n face 'reality' eventually. So by the time one is back to 'reality' one is hit harder at it(similarly expressed by Whling):), by expensing too much time, thinking that one could see stars n not mud instead from the beginning.

Orchi is also sure that Forknspoon:) has quoted 'Here i am, alone n living'. But Orchi can be certain though, if she was ever asked the same question again 'what is the meaning of like to her', similarly to Orchi's believes, she wouldn't give you a definite answer to that question.

Then, try asking her this 'Honestly, are you happy now?'.

Orchi has been asking Orchi's ownself the same question, n has been trying to find all the right answers to this question. Honestly, Orchi is still unable to give a definite answer to that question either.

The same goes with Orchi, Orchi doesn't have all the right answers to this question right now, maybe later if Orchi gets there or Orchi could enjoy some extra privilege from 'god' for having a bit more time(for 'god' has eternity), to find all the right answers to this question. Orchi would be the first person to tell it to the world.

So, please allow Orchi in saying n asking you the same questions, no if(s), n no but(s), n straight answer only, please?

Master Luke, 'Honestly, are you a rich person?'

'Honestly what is the meaning of life to you?'

'Honestly, what else do you need?'

N, 'Honestly, are you happy now?'.:)

janelim
24-04-2004, 08:18 AM
Hi Orchi,

Life is beautiful and sweet. There are many facets to life. We passed thro this life with many experiences which take you to many different levels of maturity.
Very importantly learning to love yourself and be honest to yourself - whether you want to see stars or mud..etc
However, if you are not even confident and honest to yourself,
how could you trust someone else, even if he is honest with you...

A gentle thought for the morning though........:)

Cool Hand Luke
24-04-2004, 08:43 AM
Jane - Words of Wisdom. I take my top hat off to you and bow from the waist. You are spot on when you said: "If you are not even confident and honest to yourself, how could you trust someone else, even if he is honest with you".

Such a beautiful morning, isn't it? Beautiful gentle blue sky and golden sunshine when I drove to work to attend a 4-hour seminar. The stereo in my car playing 'Summertime'.

Firefly
24-04-2004, 08:54 AM
Yes, CHL, it is a wonderful morning.

orchipalar
24-04-2004, 09:04 AM
Hi JaneLim:) - How is the water today? Thank you. Now that is a very good piece of advice. Down to earth, straight, n honest opinions about how Orchi should or shouldn't be thinking about or do.

Orchi has said Orchi is not there yet. Life's lessons are indeed differently experienced in one's own level of maturity, and of others from different backgrounds, experiences, knowledge, opinions n level of of maturity too.

In that dream of having [an interview with 'god'], 'god' says, 'it is not good to compare themselves with others'. Orchi thinks 'god' is right.

Orchi has own life to live, so do you, n everybody else does too.

But Orchi still wouldn't have all the right answers to questions about life's meaning. Maybe given the time. Orchi might learn enough to be able to do so.

Last but not least, if 'god' were to chart humankind's sins, lack of honesty would rank the second highest sins of the humankind.

The first being lack of sincerity?:) :confused:

forknspoon
24-04-2004, 03:27 PM
Hi Orchi,

I would prefer 'How are you doing today?' vs 'How's the water doing today' because I am hardly at home and I don't give two hoots.

As to the avatar, i am fascinated by the thought and concept behind it. The significance of that piece of work and the rest of the collection is astounding. The artist has gone past being a painter to being an alchemist (not literally). In many ways, so should we.

A drink on me for the first person who can tell me the title of that piece, who drew it, and what it means. And my word is good.

Happy hunting.

:cool:

Firefly
24-04-2004, 04:31 PM
Forknspoon, your avatar is a bit small and dark kind of hard to make out what it looks like. I think I need a better set of glasses to really see it. :D If you can kindly post a bigger picture, maybe then it would be easier to appreciate it.

Orchi, sincerity is taken for granted. I think it is partly due to the misuse of this word. in almost every letter we were taught to sign off with "Yours sincerely" without thinking why or what we have really written. No time to really debate on this issue today. maybe on monday I will write more :D So till then, look at water on the brighter side. look beyond the mud and silt. Be happy that you have WATER.

Cool Hand Luke
24-04-2004, 05:29 PM
ForknSpoon - Would that drink be a glass of red wine in the piano lounge listening to jazz music?

:)

whling
25-04-2004, 01:43 AM
It would be interesting if CHL answer Orchi's questions :p

I share the same belief with Orchi:) , different culture, environment, chances, education, races (not being racism, it's just that different races have different experiences of life), which lead to different personalities and different philosophy of life. If you get the same question to a African child, guess what he will answer you.

I think everyone agrees that the ultimate goal/objective in life is to stay happy, (It does not mean eternal happiness as "no pain no gain", when a world without sadness, there will be no happiness). Sometimes, when a person feels life is great, it does not necessary mean he/she understands the true meaning of life, it's just that we are standing at a different platform.

I agree that a happy (instead of rich) man is not the one who has the most, he is the one who needs the least. I always feel that I'm lack of a lot of things, but there's always a consolation prize for me - my family, my last pillar of the strength for living.

CHL, guess you r deeply influenced by western culture, it's good that you have found your way to stay happy.

To me,

Life isnt fair, it will never be,
Life is selfish and cruel,
Never try look at a thing at details, it hurts,
Never take for granted, it's always at stake,

Guess Orchi (me too, still a lot of paces to catch up Orchi)still searching his meaning of life, if someone who shares the same birthday shares same direction of thought, searching for the truth of life, Orchi, I think this is neverending journey until the end of the day.

So dont think anymore :D ,

Never try to understand what is GOD's intention, if you understand, that's not GOD intention, as human never understand God. If there's a God, it's almighty.

"What if god is one of us? - Shania Twains"


Welcome to the jungle.


The above message carries no offence to anyone, just an expression of my view on life, it may sound irritating, demotivating and sofitiscating, but please forgive my bad command of english.

And I'm alright and still living :p and dont worry about me.

Cool Hand Luke
25-04-2004, 11:35 AM
Whling - On the contrary, there is nothing interesting in my answers to Orchi's questions. I am not even comfortably off and I am happy and contented. And I know the meaning of life. However, I find your statement of 'CHL, guess you r deeply influenced by western culture' very presumptuous (and I am sure you would agree that it is very wrong and unwarranted thing to do). I choose what is the best of all cultures (inclusive of values, traditions and beliefs) and live them to the fullest. There is no eastern or western cultures. I have mentioned that happiness or contentment is a state of mind. I shall not pursue further on this topic because I do not think we would ever see eye to eye on this. And believe it, it is of no importance to me how you or Orchi want to live your lives or how you what you want your lives to be. You are entitled to your views (and your own lives!) and I wish you all the best. And I am living mine happily. Now.... ForknSpoon, back to my question on that glass of red wine.....

:)

forknspoon
25-04-2004, 02:28 PM
Firefly,

Poor thing. I hope your eye sight won't deteriorate further from this exercise. Unfortunately i can't enlarge my avatar due to size and pixel restrictions but if you PM me, I can email you the jpeg. When viewed BIG, it can be a bit scary at first....until you understand it. I would like to indemnify myself from any resulting medical conditions due to viewing it...:)

CHL

Yes, red wine, chivas, coffee, diet coke, chinese tea...etc

Whatever and wherever tickles your fancy. I am a respectful young woman who will not deny an old man his whims :)

janelim
25-04-2004, 08:24 PM
Watching from a gallery seat......

Yes, while i take a sip of my coffee from a priviledge seat at the gallery and glancing down, i see on the right corner, Orchi and Whling deep in conversation. judging from their body language and reading from their lips i discern the dissatisfaction of life encounters - life is unfair; life is selfish; cruelty; hurts; Merde waters; little ones distressing; searching for the meaning of life!

As i take my second sip of my beautiful coffee, my senses take me to the enticing music across the hall to the left. Gosh, its the piano lounge, a lovely couple- CHL & forknspoon - enjoying themselves to the exotic red wine..with soft stares, no words from their mouth, you can tell of the romance in the air - after all the heart speaks and they understand.

As i ponder and take my final sip of my coffee again.. i thought to myself.."What a wonderful world"...and i know its such a wonderful world...!

You can continue to go on searching for the meaning of life and even when you are 6' underground, you will still not get the answer..so lets enjoy our red wine..cos, Life is Beautiful!

mandy
26-04-2004, 03:13 AM
Again, CHL and JaneLim, I wish I have your wisdom and I don't call it "insanity". You seem to be able to appreciate the fine things in life in the midst of harsh cold reality.

Many times, people overlook the beauty in life because we tend to be very self-absorbed. Finally, I have peace of mind. Just finished doing some gardening work. It's tuplis time over here but my neigbour kindly advised me not to grow tulips because the deers might "eat it all". So, I decided to grow pansties instead and that worked perfectly well. My summer plants revived after hibernation. Just two days ago, I worked my butt off to build a rock garden. I drove 25 minutes to a factory to buy rocks (I'm not kidding). Guess what? I have to move it one by one to my SUV! %^^&#$@ Wait a minute, isn't that self-absorbed??? hhahaahahahha

Here I am, sitting on my deck (I built it), sipping a glass of St. Francis merlot (trust me, you'd love it) and dreaming of going to Saudi Arabia to make some big bucks!

Forgive me, I am a little drunk!

Cool Hand Luke
26-04-2004, 09:20 AM
Mandy - All those things you have described to such little perfection form the base to the meaning of life. There is still a lot of hope in you yet, Mandy! Many people sees Saudi Arabia as unfriendly with a burning sun overhead. I see the country and other Arab countries from the breath of a beautiful song called 'Desert Moon'. There is beauty and tranquility in everything - from Mandy's rock garden to this old man taking a jog in the rain.

:)

Firefly
26-04-2004, 09:48 AM
Jogging in the rain!!!! Master Luke (don't mind me calling you that) you gotta be kidding. The amount of lightning strikes (lady-o and mine) in this USJ and SJ area, you have gotta be insane to be running in the rain!!!

Cool Hand Luke
26-04-2004, 10:33 AM
I always jog in the rain because I like the feel of water against my body when I exercise. I do not run in the middle of a thunderstorm but at the tail-end of it. But I take every opportunity to run or just walk when there is a drizzle or just plain rain minus the lightning and thunder. Ah. That is what life is all about. Exploring and blending in with Nature.

Firefly
26-04-2004, 02:02 PM
So if I happend to be caught in a JAM, after a downpour in USJ , the gentleman jogging happly away most likely be u then :D

forknspoon
26-04-2004, 07:41 PM
Jane,

Sorry to shatter your view from your gallery seat but I have no inclination towards married men :p

I'm no miss NikeBeautiful or Shania Twain, just common cutlery....

Cool Hand Luke
26-04-2004, 08:43 PM
To all of you, Jane, ForknSpoon and all others - I only have a quotation for all of you. It is taken from Shakespeare's 'King Lear' (Act V Sc 1): "As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport". I seem to be a sport for you good people, take out your knives, sharpen them and plunge them into my defenceless body just for the fun of it. And as for ForknSpoon, I say this to thee, (taken from 'Julius Caesar') "Et tu, Brute?" or translated from Latin as "Even you, Brutus?"

:)

forknspoon
27-04-2004, 10:07 AM
As a kid, I first learnt the meaning of life from Julie Andrews when I watched the movie, 'Sound of Music'...

Raindrops on roses,
And whiskers on kittens,
Bright copper kettles
And warm woolen mittens.
Brown paper packages
Tied up with string,
These are a few of my favorite things.
Cream colored ponies,
And crisp apple strudel.
Doorbells and sleighbells
And schnitzel with noodles,
Wild geese that fly
With the moon on their wings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes,
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes,
Silver white winters that melt into springs
These are a few of my favorite things.
When the dog bites,
When the bee stings,
When I'm feeling sad.
I simply remember my favorite things,
And then I don't feel so bad!

forknspoon
27-04-2004, 10:25 AM
Firefly....

Haha...a bit slow but I just discovered the attachment function :D

Here's the pix enlarged for your viewing pleasure.

Again, I indemnify myself from any resulting medical conditions, and no, I'm not a goth.

Cheers,
:)

Cool Hand Luke
27-04-2004, 10:31 AM
Such simple ordinary things in life and yet they can bring so much happiness. Yes. I watched the movie many times. At that time, I was a long way from sixteen and thus I watched with great fascination the innocent and pure love scene in the garden between Liesl and Rolf when they sang 'I am Sixteen going on Seventeen'. I believe that was the very first time I saw a kiss on the screen and what an effect it has on a young boy such as I. Perhaps it was from then that I have never turned back and I was (and hopefully still am) able to take about love and romance without feeling embarrassed that men, perhaps, should not dwell on such!

And how time flies. Sixteen going on seventeen? Liesl is now 62 and Rolf is 61. And the beautiful singing nun of 'The Hills are Alive' and nanny to Lisel and her six other siblings, Julie Andrews? She is 69.

Thank you, ForknSpoon, for bringing back past memories.

:)

orchipalar
06-05-2004, 05:11 PM
Hi Forknspoon:) - NO. it is not about whether Orchi is being capable enough to get a date with you or anything like that. But after so long time, what weeks? Should be better you not wait for it to happen, n might get gastric instead, n dry throat for it too.

Orchi says, let you choose any man there is that you wish to date here. Name him here. Pick a place of your fancy in USJ/SJ to have a romantic dining experience, singing, or dancing your way to great fun night out with him. Orchi picks up the tab for you also can do at the end of it. How's zat for an honest offer to you only? No if(s), n No but(s).:)

All Orchi is asking for is for you to publish this artist works off n on regularly in here for all to enjoy n share, starting with the piece about your avatar in the first beginning.

Poor mens here would have expensed weeks of nights rest time, to be looking for answer to your challenge.

For the rest of you kind neighbours...sorry...Orchi's earlier offer for another round of teh tarik session just might end here, for the sakes of arts n passions.:)

forknspoon
06-05-2004, 06:07 PM
Orchi,

I am as patient for men as I am with men.

The avatar challenge will continue, till whenever....

Cheers,
:)

orchipalar
06-05-2004, 06:18 PM
Hi Forknspoon:) - Orchi respects your persistency.:) Likewise, Orchi's offer stays on good for you only. Whenever you wish to cash in on it......:)

Cool Hand Luke
06-05-2004, 10:27 PM
ForknSpoon - May I take up the challenge? And no. Thank you, Orchi, but no thank you, I am sure she would not need you to pay for dinner and dance. After all, ForknSpoon mentioned that she would buy a drink if I get the correct answer. Not a date or 'a romantic dining experience, singing, or dancing your way to great fun night out with him' (your quote).

I will settle for a McDonald's ice cream with chocolate topping if she doesn't mind. And perhaps we can discuss the finer points of Felipe Fernandez-Armesto's 'Millennium', especially chapter 22 on page 622 where the author talks about 'The Clash of Jade Pendants'.

:)

forknspoon
06-05-2004, 11:25 PM
Finally a taker!

Yes, I can afford that. McDonald's chocolate sundae it is. (Good choice btw).

Let's hear it from you then.


:cool:

Cool Hand Luke
06-05-2004, 11:58 PM
ForknSpoon - The little girl with blood as tears come from a miniature painting by Mark Ryden. It is taken from a miniature book called ĎBlood Ė Paintings of Sorrow and Fearí. There are a number of paintings (around 3.5 inches x 4.5 inches) done in great details. The one, which you showed us, is called Rose. I like Rose the best. It shows a face of pain and suffering which cuts deep that no one would ever understand. And indeed us adults can never understand a child fully. There are other paintings in the book. I also like Night Visit Ė it shows a sleeping girl and a red imp by her bedside. Mark Rydenís work has been drawn as parallel to Lewis Carroll (the great writer who gave us ĎAlice in Wonderlandí).

In 2001, Mark Ryden has this to say:

ĎI still remember the joy I got out of drawing, painting and building a world of my own when I was a child. I was free. I try to recapture that feeling I had making art as a child and to believe in magic, to play, to dream. Children see things and feel things that adults donít. As an adult, there are many barriers to being in this creative state of mind. I feel constantly challenged by these barriers. It is very difficut to let go of responsibilities and enter a creative fantasyland. Itís hard to stop looking at the clock and our bills. Itís hard not to drown in relationship problems and all the negative thoughts that deflate our motivation to create. If you can summon the strength to get past all these things and trust your heart, creativity can be miraculous. You can be transported to another existence.

There are two very different parts to the brain. There is the logical side and the creative side. To make art you have to stop thinking in a linear way. You have to bring to life the part of your brain that finds mystical wonder in life and nature. There is a part of your soul that can spend hours admiring the subtle colors and shapes in an old raccoon skull. You have to find the particular things that bring out your spirit. It may be to get up at the crack of dawn to explore the flea market in search of treasure. Perhaps light incense and listen to music that would embarrass you if anyone knew about, and wonder about alchemy, astrology and the secrets of the universe. It is the part of your spirit that still feels like a kid, and is awe-inspired and fascinated by the world.

You must trust your subconscious and the unknown sources it can tap into. There is so much for our minds to sort out. Millions of images and thoughts spinning around. If it were all there right the front of your conscious thinking your head would explode. My subconscious mysteriously sorts through this sea of thoughts and images and somehow synthesizes pieces from here and there and brings together paintings. They are the exclusive product of my unique mind. There is only one of each of us and our visions are the special product of our experiences and special unique thoughts.

I find it so much easier to be creatively free at night. Daytime is for sleeping. Nighttime is the best time for making art. The later at night it gets the further into another world you go. A few years ago while working very late one night, the distinct smell walnuts in the air broke my concentration. It was very quiet. A strange breeze gently blew through my studio. I suddenly became aware of something on my shoulder. Surprisingly, I was not startled to find a wee Abraham Lincoln sitting right there on my shoulder. We looked at each other for just a moment. Then he very softly whispered in my ear "paint meat".'

lady-o-leisure
07-05-2004, 10:11 AM
To CHL..
your quote on Ryder..
......"As an adult, there are many barriers to being in this creative state of mind. I feel constantly challenged by these barriers. It is very difficut to let go of responsibilities and enter a creative fantasyland. Itís hard to stop looking at the clock and our bills. Itís hard not to drown in relationship problems and all the negative thoughts that deflate our motivation to create. If you can summon the strength to get past all these things and trust your heart, creativity can be miraculous. You can be transported to another existence."

Have you found the right road for you in this life?

orchipalar
07-05-2004, 10:19 AM
Hi Forknspoon:) - Now that all is well, please post here somemore of his works for all to share. Orchi hasn't got the luxury of time to visit or surf for artifacts or masterpieces. Orchi certainly hasn't got the means or money to get something like that which Orchi might see n like. Orchi might just be a total idiot when it comes anything artistic.

Mechanical ones though is on Orchi's high interest list of must have. Soon, Orchi hopes to indulge on some interest in paintings. The walls on Orchi's home are bare n empty otherthan a couple of chinese caligraphy n paintings(pasar malam kinds).

Then there is that masterpiece mechanical grandfather cuckoo(5 tunes) wall hanging clock, very antique n rare. Also stucked to one of the walls is a 'portrait' by DaVinci(iwc-replica).:)

So please, either that or Maybe Master Luke would like to help out here?:)

BTW, from the restless nights, IF you can't, its alright, you are not alone here. Firefly hasn't even manage to wake up yet from all those sleepness nights, trying to find Mark Ryden.:D

Cool Hand Luke
07-05-2004, 10:36 AM
Lady-O - A rather strange and personal question for you to ask. Nevertheless, I will answer it. The best answer is to re-quote what you have quoted from Ryden (I make no apologies for the repeat here because I believe it is something which we should all aspire to achieve) 'As an adult, there are many barriers to being in this creative state of mind. I feel constantly challenged by these barriers. It is very difficut to let go of responsibilities and enter a creative fantasyland. Itís hard to stop looking at the clock and our bills. Itís hard not to drown in relationship problems and all the negative thoughts that deflate our motivation to create. If you can summon the strength to get past all these things and trust your heart, creativity can be miraculous. You can be transported to another existence.' I believe I have made quite a headway - even before I stumbled upon Ryden and his works. I mentioned twice in this forum at different times, the poem by Robert Frost called 'The Road not Taken' and in particular to the lines:

'Two roads diverged in a wood, and I
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference'.

I have taken the one less travelled by and it has made all the difference to me; especially in how I perceive people and things.

Orchi - Art is to be appreciated from the heart and soul. And with all due respect, you do not need the luxury of time to 'visit or surf for artifacts or masterpieces'. If you deserve Art, she will find you. I am not quite sure about what you meant by all is well. ForknSpoon has not come back yet. I may be absolutely wrong in my answer to her challenge. And one last thing. Oh. I did not spend sleepless nights looking for the painter behind the avatar. I knew exactly what it was and I knew exactly where to find it. Or rather, Rose in the picture found me by appearing in my dream.

:)

orchipalar
07-05-2004, 11:24 AM
Hi Master Luke:) - You couldn't be absolutely wrong most times. This has been another example of if. All is well now. Orchi merely asked for a chance to see more beautiful works.

If everybody else appreciates art with hearts n minds alone, all the artists, mastercraftsmen, n musicians alikes would be paupers like you n Orchi.:D

Don't know about you. Orchi thinks, all worthy art creations past or present, are valuably kept by people who wouldn't just be appreciating em with their hearts n souls only. Most worthy pieces are otherwise possessed, stolen, robbed, auctioned, or sold by others. They belong to either somebody elses or some galleries, otherthan the original creators themselves. IF you disagree, please explain to Orchi, how so? Sure, Orchi appreciates that there are plenty more worthy works of other creators which or whom were never discovered in past or present.

Greater casulties n losses, have incurred previously, for the selfish n sole 'possessions' of these 'treasures'. Depends on how badly one wishes to possess these 'treasures'. Orchi would even be thinking about the unthinkables, if say, there is a slightest chance that Orchi could get a hold of say, a van gogh, for instance.

Every darn worthy pieces of art has a price tag to it, more or less. If Orchi sees something that Orchi recognizes or like, Orchi goes all out to get it within Orchi's means of course. Certainly, Orchi is not going to dream about it to appearing in Orchi's dreams, or, wait for it to appear in front of Orchi's eyes, or something like that. Orchi is also not a painter, inspirations of such art forms would never be appearing for Orchi, so to speak.

Unless of course, if somebody kind like your goodself, would come to some assistance(or compromise?) to let Orchi shares some of the exceptional works of these brilliant n talented creators(without having Orchi to reach far ther for them).:)

Orchi is very very confused:confused:

forknspoon
07-05-2004, 11:24 AM
CHL,

You are too humble. I know for sure that my avatar does not go around usj at night breaking into houses, much less, peoples' dreams.

Can I offer you 2 chocolate sundaes instead of one for your
sifu-hood. You are absolutely brilliant and there is much to learn from you. If I have a hat now, I'll take it off for you.

Orchi,

Taking your time constraint issue into consideration, pls find as below the url to Mark Ryden's works.

www.markryden.com

I assure you, you do not want to meet them at night.

And someone please call the ambulance if Firefly doesn't wake up.

****

I officially declare the Avatar Challenge closed.

And the winner is (drumroll...) Cool Hand Luke!


Cheers,

:)

orchipalar
07-05-2004, 11:39 AM
Hi Forknspoon:) - Thank you. So kindly of you to let Orchi shares this artist's works(Mark Ryden is totally foreign for Orchi). Orchi mentioned it a couple of times(apples polishings aside), Master Luke is The See Fu here, when it comes to many such thingy.

Infact, at the last teh tarik session that we had, Orchi mentioned also that Master Luke is by far above us.:)

Yes, like Orchi said(he missed this one), all is well, because you got him to accompany you instead of some other idiot dumblucky guy that there is around other corners of this freaking cyber world.:D

BTW, in 'snow white', she is holding(resting) a 'sutra' on her lap with one of her hands. On the table next to it, 'bottle of wine' labelled 'LUKE'. How in this heaven, Mark Ryden figured that one out!?:D

BRILLIANTLY Done!:)

Firefly
07-05-2004, 12:29 PM
Ambulance required!!!! Paramedics please.

Cool Hand Luke
07-05-2004, 12:34 PM
ForknSpoon - Thank you for your kind words. 2 chocolate sundaes at McDonald's then. Would it be alright for us to meet in McDonald's in Taipan tomorrow (Saturday) night at about 8.30 pm? If the time is not suitable, please suggest another time. Or another place. You would have no problem recognising me. Old man. One arm. One leg. Wearing a 'I am Sexy' t-shirt. Bright blue bermudas with prints of yellow sunflowers. Toothly grin. In actual fact, the very personfication of what Orchi describes as 'idiot dumb lucky guy that there is around other corners of this freaking cyber world'. I will bring along a copy of Felipe Fernandez-Armesto's 'Millennium' and two dog-earred FHM magazines (magazine for the retarded). Er... how would I recognise you? A red rose in the hair, same as your avatar?

Orchi - Thank you for your compliments. Please do not read too much into all these. It was just a lucky guess. And I am just the ordinary dumb lucky guy.

forknspoon
07-05-2004, 12:57 PM
Hi CHL,

Even as you describe yourself, I am beginning to feel a tinge of regret. And I've promised myself that there will be no such challenges in the future....

However, regret or not, I will honour my word.

Don't worry about recognising me. In fact, if your presence shock me too much, I'll get the McD staff to deliver the sundae to your table while I make a quick, quiet exit.

I have offered the sundae, not my presence.

See you tomorrow night.

Cheers
:cool:

orchipalar
07-05-2004, 01:02 PM
Hi Master Luke:) - No there is nothing to it too. Seriously, apart from 'contemporary' works of arts that Orchi has little knowledge of, on the contrary, this artist's works are quite far out so to speak. Orchi has no problem to appreciate them. Next thing, Orchi is going to shoot off to finding more details about this artist..err..alchemist? Such finest details. Forknspoon:) - hope you wouldn't mind telling Orchi, whether these are oil paintings? Such fine strokes of brushes. In such miniatures? Wow!

With 'snow white' again, what's painted by the side of that piece of 'meat', n what's painted on the 'cross'? Orchi couldn't tell...can't find the magnifying glass when Orchi needs one.

Hi Firefly:) - Hopes you recuperate fast enough for tomorrow's session. Are you in? Or are you still trying hard to swallow the agony of defeat? Oh..Orchi called for an ambulance, was told it got caught up in traffic jams. So you are on your own man.:D Wonder how you gonna explain to your wifey about them late nights 're-search'? Heeehehehe.:D

Firefly
07-05-2004, 01:54 PM
Hi ya orchi, Not sure about tomorrow night as it is the eve of Mummy's day. Wifey may not let firefly off the hook so easily :(

<hanging head low in defeat, quietly slipping away into the dark>

pcyeoh
07-05-2004, 05:57 PM
Orchi, your dream of the slightest chance of owning a van gogh will forever be a dream. Read in the Star papers today that a Pablo Picsasso painting titled "Garcon ala Pipe" was auctioned at Sotheby in New York for US 104,168.000 or RM 395, 838,400. That painting depicted a teenager with a pipe in his hand and the background is all flowers. Can you imagine that painting was bought by one diplomat 50 years ago for only USD 30K!! At today's price, you can use it to buy the KL Towers or even the Sepang F1 Circuit and still have RM 100 millions in change. Or buy up every house in USJ 16 and 18. I heard a Van Goth which was holding the record until it was overtaken by this Picasso painting was going for RM 300 million.

orchipalar
07-05-2004, 06:52 PM
Hi pcYeoh:) - You are definitely the frontman, err..quaterback of this neighborhood. An actions talkin man whom Orchi has much respect for of late. Good for this neighborhood too, that we got you 'overseeing' things around here. Like someone just said sometimes back, if you were to run for ADUN, you got plenty of supporters already.:)

NO. As somebody just phrased it 'you can't find art out of the blues, whenever you feel like having to enjoy art, it would come to you, if you deserve it in the first place' or something like that.:)

Like what Orchi said, if ever Orchi thinks there is that slightest n remote possibility be it a van gogh, or a picasso, or a da vinci, or a michelangelo, is in town, close to Orchi's reach, Orchi would be the first to think about the unthinkable to 'get' it.:D

There is no freaking way this Orchi is going to wait for 'love' to show up n standing in front, for Orchi's appreciations of anykinds.

Like plenty of thingy in life, if you sit n wait for it, thinking all the time whether you deserve it or whatever, you might as well be forgetting about every darn thingy.

Unless of course, you may want to settle for 2nd or 3rd best important thingy along your path in life.:)

Having said all these shiits, Orchi gotta run to the nearest stores to get the movies 'missions impossible' to access any such possibility of getting some mafia's connection, secret agencies or something like that, for stealing a copy of the 'sunflowers'.:D

Disclaimer: Not required.

BTW, What say you? If we take up the request by JaneLim instead for the 'exercise' thingy with your sharp saw, n ladder. Sure, Orchi thinks also we wouldn't need a ladder to cut some bushes. Along with a long 'sabit' or 'parang', bring the ladder anyway, just in case Jane wishes us to re-align the TV antenna or something like that.:)

Cool Hand Luke
07-05-2004, 07:16 PM
Orchi - You missed the whole point when you advocate for 'like plenty of thingy in life, if you sit n wait for it, thinking all the time whether you deserve it or whatever, you might as well be forgetting about every darn thingy'. But I am not going to try to persuade you as you have the right to think whichever way you want to think.

Perhaps that is why you are very different from me. I wait patiently and all good things come to me. And that is why I am always happy because I know that if I deserve them, they would come to me without all the urging, persuasion and frustration. Let them come to you. Listen to the words.........

Have you ever watched kids playing on a merry go round?
Or listened to rain lapping on the ground?
Ever followed a butterfly's erratic flight?
Or gazed at the sun into the fading night?

You better slow down
Don't dance so fast
Time is short
The music won't last.

Do you run through each day on the fly?
When you ask "How are you?"
Do you hear the reply?

When the day is done,
Do you lie in your bed
With the next hundred chores
Running through your head?

You'd better slow down
Don't dance so fast
Time is short
The music won't last.

Ever told your child,
We'll do it tomorrow
And in your haste,
not see his sorrow?

Ever lost touch,
Let a good friendship die
To busy to call and just say "Hi"?

You'd better slow down
Don't dance so fast
Time is short
The music won't last.

When you run so fast to get somewhere
You miss half the fun of getting there.

When you worry and hurry through your day,
It is like an unopened gift.... Thrown away...

Life is not a race.
Do take it slower,
Hear the music
Before the song is over.

orchipalar
08-05-2004, 09:35 AM
Hi Master Luke:) - Yes, you're right in many ways, n especially in your own ways. We have so much in common, yet, there is much differences. All is well.

So, should Orchi stops to persuade you to join tonight's teh tarik session? Or, you gonna just show up n give Orchi the best surprise of the night? See you there. Oh, whether what Satish's kind suggestion goes or not, Orchi buys your rounds of teh tarik(s) n fish heads.:)

Hi Isarahim:) - Orchi volunteers to pick you up n send you back home, for this session this evening, with the assumption that you are physically not being convenient, no problem. Unless of course, if you are bed ridden? Or?:)

Cool Hand Luke
08-05-2004, 06:35 PM
Orchi - Your comment: 'We have so much in common, yet, there is much differences'. Gee. You really think so? that we have so much in common?

:D

orchipalar
10-05-2004, 12:25 AM
Hi Master Luke:) - Hahaha...how was the water doing? All is well. Yes we have much in common, anatomically(?)....heehehehehee, no problem what so ever with that.:D

Cool Hand Luke
10-05-2004, 01:13 AM
Anatomy? I beg to differ. I think I have something which you obviously do not have but let's leave it at that.

:D

orchipalar
10-05-2004, 11:15 AM
Hi:) - If not for a last minutes postponement, Orchi would have flown to another remote locations in foreignland yesterday. Orchi is pleased to have attended the KYB session on Saturday nite though. Orchi had gotten the 'Exorcist'(latest release) DVD from KH EE(TQ buddy), n after gotten home Orchi had much scares from re-watching the episodes all over again. By the time, the movie ended, it was already around 4am on Sunday morning.:)

Orchi had some trouble falling asleep afterthat. Instead Orchi spent some of the wee morning hours sitting opposite to Orchi's latest acquisition. With its every rhythmic motions n the eery tunes from this masterpiece, Orchi was soon 'hypnotized' into deep n sound sleep.

Suddenly, Orchi felt a 'big' load on the back. The youngest of little Orchis climped ontop of Orchi doing a piggie back ride n woke Orchi up abruptly, 'paah wakeup paah, mama say we are out of gas....cannot cook any breakfast for wei wei....n today is mother's day paah, wei wei n ko ko want to have dim sum'....:D

In the haste to rush out for dim sum with family..upon arrival at the USJ21 place...Orchi got down from the car n then realized that Orchi wasn't wearing any......aaahhh..hahahaha..:D

isarahim
10-05-2004, 03:39 PM
Hi Isarahim:) - Orchi volunteers to pick you up n send you back home, for this session this evening, with the assumption that you are physically not being convenient, no problem. Unless of course, if you are bed ridden? Or?:)
Believe me, it's not the booze that keeps me virtual...

orchipalar
10-05-2004, 08:40 PM
Hi:) - Once in a while Orchi longs to hear this on the air. Great song it is from one of the greatest singers of our time.....:)

Girl we made it to the top
we went so high we couldn't stop
we climbed the ladder leading us nowhere
Two of us together building castles in the air
We spun so fast we couldn't tell
the gold ring from the carousel
How could we know the right would turn-out bad
Everything we wanted, was everything we had
I miss the Hungry Years
the once upon a time
the lovely long ago
we didn't a dime
those days of me and you,
we lost along the way
how could I be so blind
not to see the door
closing on the World
I now hunger for
Looking through my tears,
I miss the Hungry years
We shared our day dreams one by one
Making plans was so much fun
We set our goals and reached the highest star
Things that we were after were much better from afar
Here we stand just me and you
with everything and nothing too
It wasn't worth the price we had to pay
Honey take me home Let's go back to yesterday
I miss the Hungry Years
the once upon a time the lovely long ago
we didn't have a dime
those days of me and you,
we lost along the way
how could I be so blind
not to see the door
closing on the World I now hunger for
Looking through my tears,
I miss the Hungry years
I miss the Hungry Years Ö
:)

orchipalar
14-05-2004, 11:10 AM
Hi Everyone:) - When spirits are low, sky is gloomy, love is nowhere to be found, sorrow seems endless, Orchi has gotten the blues.....until Orchi has found you....here is to you all.:)


And I never thought I'd feel this way
And as far as I'm concerned
I'm glad I got the chance to say
That I do believe I love you

And if I should ever go away
Well, then close your eyes and try to feel
The way we do today
And then if you can remember

Keep smilin', keep shinin'
Knowin' you can always count on me, for sure
That's what friends are for
For good times and bad times
I'll be on your side forever more
That's what friends are for

Well, you came and opened me
And now there's so much more I see
And so by the way I thank you

Whoa, and then for the times when we're apart
Well, then close your eyes and know
These words are comin' from my heart
And then if you can remember, oh

Keep smiling, keep shining
Knowing you can always count on me, for sure
That's what friends are for
In good times, in bad times
I'll be on your side forever more
Oh, that's what friends are for

Whoa... oh... oh... keep smilin', keep shinin'
Knowin' you can always count on me, for sure
That's what friends are for
For good times and bad times
I'll be on your side forever more
That's what friends are for

Keep smilin', keep shinin'
Knowin' you can always count on me, oh, for sure
'Cause I tell you that's what friends are for
For good times and for bad times
I'll be on your side forever more
That's what friends are for (That's what friends are for)

On me, for sure
That's what friends are for
Keep smilin', keep shinin'

Cheers everyone:)

forknspoon
14-05-2004, 02:23 PM
Just got this email this morning. Thought I'd share it with you guys:

Live A Life That Matters

Ready or not, some day it will all come to an end. There will be
no more sunrises, no minutes, hours or days.

All the things you collected, whether treasured or forgotten, will
pass to someone else.

Your wealth, fame and temporal power will shrivel to irrelevance.
It will not matter what you owned or what you were owed.

Your grudges, resentments, frustrations, and jealousies will
finally disappear. So, too, your hopes, ambitions, plans, and to-do lists will expire.

The wins and losses that once seemed so important will fade away.

It won't matter where you came from, or on what side of the tracks you lived, at the end. It won't matter whether you were beautiful or brilliant. Even your gender and skin color will be irrelevant.

So what will matter? How will the value of your days be measured?

What will matter is not what you bought, but what you built; not what you got, but what you gave.

What will matter is not your success, but your significance.

What will matter is not what you learned, but what you taught.

What will matter is every act of integrity, compassion, courage or
sacrifice that enriched, empowered or encouraged others to emulate your example.

What will matter is not your competence, but your character.

What will matter is not how many people you knew, but how many will feel a lasting loss when you're gone.

What will matter is not your memories, but the memories that live
in those who loved you.

What will matter is how long you will be remembered, by whom and for what.

Living a life that matters doesn't happen by accident. It's not a
matter of circumstance but of choice.

Choose to live a life that matters.

Cool Hand Luke
14-05-2004, 09:42 PM
ForknSpoon - Your quote: 'Ready or not, some day it will all come to an end. There will be no more sunrises, no minutes, hours or days' will always haunt me. Until the day when there will be no more sunrises for me. Perhaps that is why I am living and enjoying my life to the fullest. And it begins with being a little kinder to myself. Everything in this world starts with a little kindness and very often we forgot to be kind and forgiving to ourselves. Try it. It works.

Cool Hand Luke
14-05-2004, 09:52 PM
.... And when you are as old as I am, believe me, every sunrise counts. It did not seem that long ago when I was 23. I could remember every pulse beat of what happened when I was 23. When I was that age I thought I was invincible because I still have at least another 50 odd years more to live. Time does not record the same ravages as you grow older. When I was 23, a year means nothing. When I am 63, a year is equivalent to every 10 years required of a 23-year-old in terms of natural disintegration of cells (including gray cells!) and wastage of the physical body. In other words, I am regressing. And so, yes, soon 'there will be no more sunrises, no minutes, hours or days'.

janelim
14-05-2004, 11:34 PM
yes, many of us try to evade the subject on death. Death is something inevitable and it will come naturally one day..But, before death comes, it is one's choice to choose either to be better or bitter. It almost sounds like a remote buttone to me. Either you choose the red or the green button..........
As for me, i will always choose the green button despite all circumstances.

orchipalar
18-05-2004, 10:49 AM
Hi:) - 'Choy Choy' would be the words uttered by wifey, eveytime when there was anything discussions about 'death' by Orchi. Orchi hates to discuss about it too, but feeling the need to do with wifey n kids, just to prepare them for the worst to happen inevitably or accidentally, sooner or later.
:(

Firefly
18-05-2004, 11:26 AM
So what do you intend to leave behind in death? What do you want the people around you to remember you as? or someone that people wish to forget fast!!

The show Big Fish (http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/bigfish/index.html) is pretty interesting in this subject. The other show is Secondhand Lions.(http://www.secondhandlions.com/)

janelim
18-05-2004, 02:39 PM
Firefly, that's a very good example in that movie Big Fish..
My son bought the dvd and it was a wise choice...good movie
on something very practical about life.

Firefly
18-05-2004, 03:58 PM
Secondhand lions is even better.