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ng
09-03-2014, 10:47 AM
I've noticed a lot of English grammar mistakes in recent years in The Star newspaper.

Today, I found a spelling mistake. passanger....:laugh:

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/09/Missing-MAS-flight-imposters-bought-from-CSA/

"It had also issued tickets to one Chinese passanger"

tupai
09-03-2014, 02:55 PM
I've noticed a lot of English grammar mistakes in recent years in The Star newspaper.

Today, I found a spelling mistake. passanger....:laugh:

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/09/Missing-MAS-flight-imposters-bought-from-CSA/


"It had also issued tickets to one Chinese passanger"



so? france, japan, korea, germany, usa, china also successfully have 1thing in kommon. Gas what?

Yang Bahasa ingliz TIUxlatotupai:cool:

besitai2007
09-03-2014, 08:45 PM
Typos are common. For the English language there are a few digital editors. But these cannot correct grammatical errors and eyeball scanning remains one of the main methods of edition. With thousands of words to go through, howlers do slip through.

Fabe18
09-03-2014, 09:19 PM
Typo is not as bad as poorly written piece with atrocious English...

besitai2007
09-03-2014, 09:25 PM
If you listen to the MAS coordinator and the head of arm forces in the ongoing MH370 SAR effort, they seem to be labouring over their English usage. Expressions like "Set the air clear" (set record straight?), and "will repeat again" (just...use repeat.. "repeat" is to say again, so "repeat again" is to "say again again!") Only Ahmad Jauhari seems to have a better command of English. So shy, all in front of world media.

besitai2007
09-03-2014, 09:27 PM
Typo is not as bad as poorly written piece with atrocious English...
If you listen to the government prosecutor in Teoh Beng Hock's hearing, you can gauge how bad the level of English has deteriorated in our country!

Henry T
09-03-2014, 09:41 PM
If you listen to the government prosecutor in Teoh Beng Hock's hearing, you can gauge how bad the level of English has deteriorated in our country!

Not just his bad English, he is an embarrassment to his profession.

SiangMalam
09-03-2014, 09:42 PM
Last Friday, I was at the Ministry of INTERNATIONAL Trade & Industry (MITI) in Putarjaya talking to the No3 person in the ministry about a licence to import coal on transit i.e. import coal from Indonesia of various calorific values / grades, keep in a huge warehouse for blending into a desired grade with the right calorific values, moisture level, sulphur level and then re-export them onward to India... I asked about licences, duties and taxes and of couse about incentives.... you will have a whole day laughing if I had recorded the conversation we had... in the end, I spoke in Malay and I think I have a better command of the Malay language than him too....

He's about my age... how the heck did he make it to such high position in the civil service? Bodek King* kah?

* I used to have a colleague working with me in a soft drink MNC in Shanghai, he was a Chinese mainlander... lousy at his work but he was assigned to me as one of my assistants... and had always followed me on my travels to HK and Bangkok and sometimes Singapore. And he used to buy beautiful, expensive silk ties on every trip... but I have never seen him wearing them. But I have seen these ties bought by him worn by other senior managers in the company.... much later he confessed to me he has been quietly giving ties to all these senior people as a career insurance and career booster.... :eek:

Rhiga
09-03-2014, 09:57 PM
If you listen to the government prosecutor in Teoh Beng Hock's hearing, you can gauge how bad the level of English has deteriorated in our country!

That’s why he is a prosecutor from the 1gomen..

If his ingeris is half your standard or any of the English-background forumers here, he will be another Zaid Ibrahim owning one of the biggest law firm in this land..

Rhiga
09-03-2014, 10:10 PM
Last Friday, I was at the Ministry of INTERNATIONAL Trade & Industry (MITI) in Putarjaya talking to the No3 person in the ministry about a licence to import coal on transit .... I asked about licences, duties and taxes and of couse about incentives.... you will have a whole day laughing if I had recorded the conversation we had... in the end, I spoke in Malay and I think I have a better command of the Malay language than him too....

He's about my age... how the heck did he make it to such high position in the civil service? Bodek King* kah?

:eek:

Some of the senior staff in the public research entities are better quality and in my opinion some are very smart people..

Overall, those who are smarter and remain there are doers.. Those who attend meeting and sign approval are kaki bodek cum politicians.

besitai2007
09-03-2014, 10:59 PM
Just listen to some of the announcers in Astro Awana News (Bernama News) when they report on the MH370 SAR and you will wince at how they speak English. Mixing English and Malay.

cskok8
09-03-2014, 11:20 PM
If you listen to the MAS coordinator and the head of arm forces in the ongoing MH370 SAR effort, they seem to be labouring over their English usage. Expressions like "Set the air clear" (set record straight?), and "will repeat again" (just...use repeat.. "repeat" is to say again, so "repeat again" is to "say again again!") Only Ahmad Jauhari seems to have a better command of English. So shy, all in front of world media.

Kasi chan la, ada SPM saja apa mau buat

besitai2007
10-03-2014, 02:04 PM
Kasi chan la, ada SPM saja apa mau buat

When they face an international media, they are projecting an image of our country. So they are telling the world, "Our English ith not the good...please speakee Bahasa Melayu...or we no answer prolperly?"

cskok8
11-03-2014, 01:00 PM
Been hearing so many news items mentioning Republic of China. Whoever wrote that don't seem to realise that means Taiwan. If Beijing hears this, the $hit will really hit the fan

SiangMalam
11-03-2014, 01:57 PM
Been hearing so many news items mentioning Republic of China. Whoever wrote that don't seem to realise that means Taiwan. If Beijing hears this, the $hit will really hit the fan

Like they call Kim Young Un's Korea "Republik Korea" vs "Korea Selatan" for the other Korea.... hahaha

ng
11-03-2014, 02:06 PM
Been hearing so many news items mentioning Republic of China. Whoever wrote that don't seem to realise that means Taiwan. If Beijing hears this, the $hit will really hit the fan

Technically, Taiwan should be called South China and PRC should be called North China.

I know there's some overlap of geography but it's the same concept as North/South Korea and North/South Vietnam.

tupai
11-03-2014, 04:59 PM
i aint got no problem understood everything your 1govt said/say/saying. Maybe they said many things by wrong. But by right, i aint got no misunderstand. Do you?:confused:

I am ok with the kurent speeking level lah. they know, you know i know enuff lah.:heheheh:

puhlis dont be so clever to wanna teach your erected 'leaders' how to speeking, ok. If you all so clever, you all already leaders lah.:cool:

Yang Belajar inglis TIUxlatotupai:cool:

Henry T
11-03-2014, 05:10 PM
i aint got no problem understood everything your 1govt said/say/saying. Maybe they said many things by wrong. But by right, i aint got no misunderstand. Do you?:confused:

I am ok with the kurent speeking level lah. they know, you know i know enuff lah.:heheheh:

puhlis dont be so clever to wanna teach your erected 'leaders' how to speeking, ok. If you all so clever, you all already leaders lah.:cool:

Yang Belajar inglis TIUxlatotupai:cool:


“One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” ― Plato

ng
11-03-2014, 06:49 PM
puhlis dont be so clever to wanna teach your erected 'leaders' how to speeking, ok. If you all so clever, you all already leaders lah.:cool:



Is this country based on meritocracy, show me their degrees, work experience from prestigious companies, IQ score etc.

In a perfect world, the best become leaders but this is not a perfect world.

SiangMalam
11-03-2014, 07:00 PM
Is this country based on meritocracy, show me their degrees, work experience from prestigious companies, IQ score etc.

In a perfect world, the best become leaders but this is not a perfect world.

Were you in Kajang for the by-election nomination or at the High Court to see Karpal Singh Deo slammed with a RM4,000 fine for sedition?

ng
11-03-2014, 07:44 PM
Were you in Kajang for the by-election nomination or at the High Court

OK, our leaders are all the best of the best in the world. With best degrees from top US universities, with highest IQ scores (Mensa members), with the best English proficiency in all of Asia, with the best working experience in the world. So will I still be slapped with a fine ? :(