arguments from "What is the cost of that LV or Gucci bags" thread

[Jennylim]

I came across this family, the husband is running several cybercafés doing illegal business, reaping on innocent school children and adults who have difficulty to think rightly.

The wife was busy looking out for branded stuff like LV and Gucci products. To the point that others have to wait for her till she at least get something she wanted. I wonder when she shows off her LV or Gucci, does she realize that she is showing how many innocent school children’s life her husband have ruined or how many families have been broken. What so proud to show off such achievement??

I think the school should teach the school children to look down on people doing such ‘profession’ and the public should make these people felt unwelcome.

[SiangMalam]

I have no word to describe people with this kind of mentality!

Yeah, no need for people like you to describe my mentality... I don't need help... I think people who encourage their children to cheat in exams because everybody else children cheating is not qualified to describe my mentality. I am not perfect but when I read your comments, I feel blessed and lucky I am not like you, for better or for worse...

So what was your kid doing in the cyber cafe? Its the cyber cafe owner's fault? Sure, everybody is to be blamed except yourself...

And how could you ask the schools to teach children to look down on cyber cafe owners? The school should teach the children to look down on mothers like you who keeps blamings others and the system for your children's shortcomings.

Next thing, you will also blame Chang for not doing his moderating well and allowing me to express my opinion of you!

[zinglicious]

And dun know what school that would be encouraged by some fanatics teachers to look down on mothers or fathers.
The closest would be probably either during MaoZedong or HoChiMinn schools where they were taught to report thier parents faults and misgivings. OMG

[SiangMalam]

It is better to keep the big mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubts! If you don't understand what the argument is about or you actually know nuts, pls butt out...

[zinglicious]

The latest I check malaysia still pratice democracy......and usj.com.my still boleh cakap apa apa aje. O)f course, I know nuts and bolts and also square.

Amazingly, thoughts of Mao or Ho stiil persist......and it is considered ABC ice kacang to call teachers to look down on parents.

[SiangMalam]

Go and mind your own business and stop being a busybody... remember it is you who said to stay away from you and you will stay away from me so just walk the talk and get lost...

[zinglicious]

Go and mind your own business and stop being a busybody... remember it is you who said to stay away from you and you will stay away from me so just walk the talk and get lost...

What are you mummummumbling rambling.....??? remember it is you who said to stay away from you and you will stay away from me so just walk the talk and get lost...

Dun talk like Mao lah, I never said the things you have just said. I will stay up and personal - unlike you, I never care for to butt in the threads that you started. Since I disgree what you said to the fellow forumer which is pretty insulting. I aint too busty to butt in. And remember, thios is not your forum though you seems to like to remind us of KWchang patronage. :p

I did walk my walk and getting Many lives isntead of Manu life. You better walk your talk since you have been butting into my threads though I have no objection to contructive replies from anyone. And I have had not ask anyone to get lost either. Am mean but aint that egoistic up. :rolleyes:

Finlly, what;s wrong by questioning anyone who suggest teachers to look down on parents which seems to be communist ideology? Mao it and Ho it?

[SiangMalam]

What are you mummummumbling rambling.....??? remember it is you who said to stay away from you and you will stay away from me so just walk the talk and get lost...

Dun talk like Mao lah, I never said the things you have just said. I will stay up and personal - unlike you, I never care for to butt in the threads that you started. Since I disgree what you said to the fellow forumer which is pretty insulting. I aint too busty to butt in. And remember, thios is not your forum though you seems to like to remind us of KWchang patronage. :p

I did walk my walk and getting Many lives isntead of Manu life. You better walk your talk since you have been butting into my threads though I have no objection to contructive replies from anyone. And I have had not ask anyone to get lost either. Am mean but aint that egoistic up. :rolleyes:

Finlly, what;s wrong by questioning anyone who suggest teachers to look down on parents which seems to be communist ideology? Mao it and Ho it?

Can you please tell me which subject you have discussed recently that I butted in? Did I butt into your subject when I mentioned celebrating new year's eve in Sydney Harbor Bridge and drink red wine and better your discussion by saying nothing beat new year's eve at Time's Square with Dom Perignon?

I did not even want to wish anybody Christmas or Happy New Year simply because you started the thread, that is how principled I am. Instead, you are the one that disallowed people to go into your thread and I stayed out but you always come and try to get involved with what I am discussing with others, the new year's eve case and this case with JennyLim is concerned.

I have never claimed patronage of KWChang... I do not know where the heck you get that idea but I guess your lousy command of the English language makes you not understand what people are talking about, even if it is in the US slang... sad. I have been warned and banned and issued bananas and I have whacked Chang blue black and vice-versa since mid-2000s so please, if you do not know much, it is better to keep your big mouth shut.

And why bother to even mention the word Manulife? It is none of your business so mind your own business. Why can't you just mind your own business? Stick to your side of the turf. Don't even come near.... I am not your friend and I will never take one like you as a friend... so just please please please stay away as far as possible.

[zinglicious]

Can you please tell me which subject you have discussed recently that I butted in? Did I butt into your subject when I mentioned celebrating new year's eve in Sydney Harbor Bridge and drink red wine and better your discussion by saying nothing beat new year's eve at Time's Square with Dom Perignon?

I did not even want to wish anybody Christmas or Happy New Year simply because you started the thread, that is how principled I am. Instead, you are the one that disallowed people to go into your thread and I stayed out but you always come and try to get involved with what I am discussing with others, the new year's eve case and this case with JennyLim is concerned.

I have never claimed patronage of KWChang... I do not know where the heck you get that idea but I guess your lousy command of the English language makes you not understand what people are talking about, even if it is in the US slang... sad. I have been warned and banned and issued bananas and I have whacked Chang blue black and vice-versa since mid-2000s so please, if you do not know much, it is better to keep your big mouth shut.

And why bother to even mention the word Manulife? It is none of your business so mind your own business. Why can't you just mind your own business? Stick to your side of the turf. Don't even come near.... I am not your friend and I will never take one like you as a friend... so just please please please stay away as far as possible.

iSayman. you must be nuts. How do you know I am not a double agent of Many life or a policy holder? Why is the name a taboo?

Likewise, what has my bad Inglish have to do with usj.com.my? Isnt that the issues is why we are posting? And why do you have to be so egoistick up till because of me having started Happy New year 2013, you refused to wish other forumers? How is that for a man of principle for such hatred and twisted statement that I have disallowed anyone to go to the threads that I started? Again, I would say it again - " kindly prove it and back up this statement " Dunlah always put words in my mouth!!!

I like to pride myself that I am a nut who knows nothing much but would learn Inglish or issues to be a better man. I dont rebuke people even if thier comments differ but beg to differ. And I never go up close and personal to tell people to butt off when I pissed off in the public forum. Even that forumer where you happily referred where he posted " I am the most lousy forumer" who incidentally the same forumer who challenged you to a fight in some Mount. Was I pissed? Nope! But I was laughing my nuts off especially when you made reference of him.

As far as I am concerned, there are no friends or enemies in the forum. I am here to learn more from car spraying to facts finding like where to find mechanics recommended by Patrick or how to twitch problems in my Galaxy Tab. For those whom wanna to be up close and personal, I tell them to personal cell me where and where to hip hop or hic* hic*. ( but I am very selective as most of the time, I rather be online playing games.) Otherwise, I could be partying days and nights with some cybercafes kingpins where there are free flow of Chivas. In fact, I was right at home watching fireworks during NY eve with one of them where I offered him some leftover wines from Zing Subang.

Again, iSayman, I feel confused why you made the statement where you encourage teachers to hate thier "imperfect" mothers and fathers where it was the same Chairman Mao idealogy. This is a dangerous thoughts. I was against the idea of "cheating" in exam by unfair advantage by some anxious parents, too. But I dun chop her down just dat. At least, she admitted. And I also beg to disagree where parents should be entirely blamed for thier offspring mischief in the statement made by a forumer. But we should also need law and orders to protect children from vices to drugs where it could be due to peer pressures or uncontrolled problem child. My former staff was one of them. His parents couldnt even control him as he was a wild one who could beat up his teachers at school. In fact, he was asking his dad for ciggies when he was dinning with us where I XXXX daylights off him. After that, he dared not to do that anymore. Told him that unless he was 21 years old and have a real job, he may do that. ( He was just form 5 at that time while his dad is a humble soft spoken man ). Otherwise, he could get lost from my place.

I kenot get lost unless I have been banned with some sticky ethics against usj.com rules because I am one nutty case of curiosity.

[kwchang]

...how could you ask the schools to teach children to look down on cyber cafe owners? The school should teach the children to look down on mothers like you who keeps blamings others and the system for your children's shortcomings....
That is being personal - violation of Forum Rules
Do we forget that we all agree to disagree in a forum debate?
Let us not pass such comments please

[kwchang]

Both zinglicious and SM are at each others' necks again in open forum posting
Our Rules are very explicit about keeping private arguments within PM and not on the Forum - an obvious and blatant rule violation.

The next time I see both of you arguing again on the forum, both of you will go for long holidays, I promise you. i will not entertain any SMS from either of you when that happens. I am tired and this is my limit.

[zinglicious]

I read and reread my replies and I dun see anything that is offensive in nature.

As for the others like Inglish or other issues, how can be be offensive when I couldnt understand why the people can get away to post insensitve statement up close and personal. Not only I beg to differ, disagree to agree, i just wanna to understand because I am nuts about why and how. Wonder where and how my tackle got a yellow banana card? Sumore, being warned for a red banana card sumore. Alamak.

And more important, if I am accused of things and statements personally I never made by a forumer time after time, I am not allow myself to ask him to offer proof of burdens i.e. the lastest public open posting for saying I deter forumers posting differ views and opinon? I offer the courtesy and opportunity with courtesy instead of asking him to butt off. SO, I just stood there and let the lies buzz and fly?

Sorry, KWChang, I beg to disagree, even if it is just a forum nick but IMHO opinon, the forum should allow the decency of maintaining dignity. I have taken much more than a Pisang in real life and it is a small price to pay for my stands either in the net or real life.

( BTW, is asking why somebody statement that suggesting teachers to look down on parents a form of argument? )

Lastly, I dun call or SMS personally to complain or to highlight my plight. Whatever happens in USJ.com.my, stays in usj.com.my.

[kwchang]

For all who do not understand my moderation


I read and reread my replies and I dun see anything that is offensive in nature. Nothing about being offensive. It is all about breaking the rules


..why the people can get away to post insensitve statement up close and personal.they get banana too


..I am not allow myself to ask him to offer proof of burdens...I offer the courtesy and opportunity with courtesy instead of asking him to butt off. SO, I just stood there and let the lies buzz and fly? The rule is clear - do your clarifications OFFLINE ... in PM ... NOT in the open Forum

[zinglicious]

I ask where and when I was being penalised and flag for red card, I was told that I am breaking the rules. What rule dId I breaK, I am still clueless!!! I askied because I wanna to know what went wrong to avoid being seen as sturborn or thick yellow banana skinned

When somebody accused me of being a liar or said the things I didnt said - I have to ask him in PM? I just read the man of principles did state that " Don't even come near.... I am not your friend and I will never take one like you as a friend... so just please please please stay away as far as possible."( though he had dedicated song for me many moons ago. )

And while all these - the record is standing upright like a sore thumb in the open forum that " that Instead, you are the one that disallowed people to go into your thread and I stayed out but you always come and try to get involved with what I am discussing with others,

Clearly, I do not understand what you are talking about the rules. :confused:

Maybe it is my poor comprehension of English.

[kwchang]

..What rule dId I breaK, I am still clueless..
You have probably never read the Rules
When a newbie joins the forum, I askthem to visit "For Newbies (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?13148-For-Newbies)"and in there is a link for The Rules (http://www.usj.com.my/forum-rules.php3)...

Where Rule 2b explicitly states

Be Civil

b. Personal arguments must be carried out away from the public discussion forum and dealt with in private. Please use the Private Messaging (PM) and email systems instead.


There is a rationale for this
The Forum is a community forum for members of the community to interact
Anything private should be dealt with PRIVATELY and hence the Private Messaging or PM.
If any one decides to settle personal disputes on the Forum, we also have a rule that covers this -

1. Maintain posts within the topic discussed

c. Discussion threads also go off track when people decide to start chatting. If you want to have a chat session, do it with the Private Messaging (PM) system provided or communicate by email or other chat/messaging applications on the Internet.

[zinglicious]

Though I cook, I do read. And I love to read about rules, law and order. And I do read from various threads to columns. Heck, I even read about the "misunderstanding where somebody said if the Moderator dont control him , he will retalitate......."
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?35817-misunderstanding-btwn-chua-and-SM

As I have asked , I s still dun understand why am iI being flagged with a yellow banana card though you quoted the rule - Be Civil.
At which phase of the thread , am I not being civil and courtesy is not shown with utmost respect out in the forum?

And how can I be inrevelant to the topic when I asked what was it all about a forumer encouraging nationwide teachers to look down on mothers like Jenny. To me this is not just a community issue but a nation wide interest where there is a conflict of communist idealogy against the democracy we pratice in Malaysia.

If I am charged with traffic offence - there should be explicit charge where and how I am being charged. traffic summon kenot be issued with a general statement without time , place and nature of offence committed. The traffic enforcement is not just to penalise offenders but to educate and show offenders not to repeat the mistakes again.

That is why I had post the thread about the examplary officer at the JPJ recently or others. Even if he did not approve my car transfer, I still would have post the same because I was impressed. He did it by taking consideration that it was way past 5p.m Friday and asked his staff opinon should he proceed to assist further. Me? I just apologized for being late and for the incomplete form given by the car dealer.

Great power comes with great responsibility though it is never easy to be in the enforcement. But if acted accordingly without prejudice and wise judgement, you would be walking tall with Yang Arif.

[zinglicious]

And let the record stand that I have tried to tone down posting political threads after your warnings though it is never my intention to be pro BN or PR. And when I raise the thread, I merely want to know the impact of certain acts or actions with the things being done or law being implemented from the constructive comments from the forumers. After all, it affect the public and me too.

In fact, I dun usually post my thoughts but just the link.

[kwchang]

I am getting really impatient now that you continue to harp on this without understanding what I was explaining about earlier

The banana is NOT about what you have been posting but the fact that you are engaging SM on an argument online.
.... it is not what you said earlier. it is about you and SM posting arguments online

This is where the problem started -
When SM chastised you on the Forum, your responded online ...

What are you mummummumbling rambling.....??? remember it is you who said to stay away from you and you will stay away from me so just walk the talk and get lost.....
Then he countered and you posted

iSayman. you must be nuts...

Isn't that out of context of the original thread and wasn't that a personal argument going on?
Your personal arguments have no part in the discussion of that thread. What you an SM were doing was an online personal issue which is unnecessary and not allowed by our rules.

Both of you got the banana for doing just that

PLEASE GET IT TO YOUR HEAD THAT SO LONG AS YOU MAINTAIN A PERSONAL DISPUTE ON THE FORUM, YOU HAVE VIOLATED RULE 2B. We do not want to hear about both your problems with each other.

Now that I have made this clear to the both of you, the next time you both decide to chide each other on the Forum, i am sending the guilty party out to the pasture to cool off with no bananas or warnings.

[zinglicious]

iSayman, I have been iSayman as though it was my trademark while others said Aiseyman.

IMHO, The way I looked and I sounded in response to the rude remarks is done in a civil manner. It was a " greeting " to the rude remarksafter being told to get lost
Go and mind your own business and stop being a busybody... remember it is you who said to stay away from you and you will stay away from me so just walk the talk and get lost... [/QUOTE where I continue on by [QUOTE=zinglicious;555122]What are you mummummumbling rambling.....??? remember it is you who said to stay away from you and you will stay away from me so just walk the talk and get lost...

Dun talk like Mao lah, I never said the things you have just said. I will stay up and personal - unlike you, I never care for to butt in the threads that you started. Since I disgree what you said to the fellow forumer which is pretty insulting. I aint too busty to butt in. And remember, thios is not your forum though you seems to like to remind us of KWchang patronage. :p

I did walk my walk and getting Many lives isntead of Manu life. You better walk your talk since you have been butting into my threads though I have no objection to contructive replies from anyone. And I have had not ask anyone to get lost either. Am mean but aint that egoistic up. :rolleyes:

Finlly, what;s wrong by questioning anyone who suggest teachers to look down on parents which seems to be communist ideology? Mao it and Ho it?

As for the iSayman, you must be nuts, kindly refer to the whole context after the "greeting remarks....

How can a moderator, referee or a judge get impatient while the suspects patiently awaiting for the appeal?

And I am surprised at your shouting remarks - PLEASE GET IT TO YOUR HEAD THAT SO LONG AS YOU MAINTAIN A PERSONAL DISPUTE ON THE FORUM, YOU HAVE VIOLATED RULE 2B. We do not want to hear about both your problems with each other. This is not what you are suppose to say after you have told Rhiga off as though as he had talked to other forumers like kids. the rest is history after he was given a banana.

Moreover, you are not supposely to take personally, either you are losing impatient as you are entrusted with the important role as a moderator. As far as I am concerned, I dun have problems with anybody..... ANd it was even said by you we should be agree to disagree where we can beg to differ. To me it is still not a persoanl dispute as I was questioning not his off target remarks but encourage him to prove that I am a liar and also why made a public dangerous communist ideology remarks to encourage teachers to look down on parents?

A friendly reminder - great power comes with great responsibility. Walk the talk and you would be walking tall if you show more patient and professionalism. After all, we would all be judged by what we do and what we say either it is just a nick or dime.

Still getting lost and not in my head of what is going on? Kindly do not think it is out of stubborn but my comprehension is weak.
But if you think I was arguing and guilty, I would accept as what it is. I believe in the democracy of agree to disagree or the other way round.