Lynas update - how NOT to post to theforum

[zinglicious]

The Kuantan court has lifted the injuction against the company and they can ship in the radioactivity all the way from Downunder. :p http://my.news.yahoo.com/high-court-lifts-suspension-lynas-licence-050502722.html

[Raikonen]

Rare earth ore in Kuantan under heavy police escort

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/214794



"...More than 100 containers containing rare earth ore have arrived in Kuantan port near midnight under unusually heavy police presence."


Finally the ore is in Kuantan LAMPs...nasi sudah jadi bubur...veli the sad for the activists...

And why is the cops doing escorting for a private entity instead of tackling crime? How to request for such escorts for my raw materials to my factory? Any idea?

[cml]

Those who are protecting them would have vested interests.

[Fabe18]

Those who are protecting them would have vested interests.

Police escort can always be arranged. They sked kena hijacked or sabotaged on the way.

[cml]

I dont think that anyone would want to hijack those stuff, sabo maybe and all the contents dumped in putarjaya or all the yb yb bungalows.

[Fabe18]

I dont think that anyone would want to hijack those stuff, sabo maybe and all the contents dumped in putarjaya or all the yb yb bungalows.

The rare earth ore itself is not radioactive, it's only the after product and waste product..

[Henry T]

Nice sendiwara recently.

One hundred containers of rare earth ore has arrived in Kuantan and on the way to Lynas.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia

[zinglicious]

That is why I can speculate months back that the GE is only gonna to held next year after the radioactivity being set up at the cost of Rm2.5 billion cost and making it 2nd largest plant after China. ( but it should be the biggest plant to import rare earths from Down Under as China is not importing any rare earth). And the size of Bolehland compared to China? Well,.......:rolleyes:

[kwchang]

The Kuantan court has lifted the injuction against the company and they can ship in the radioactivity all the way from Downunder.... Please do not distort the terminology. If you meant to say rare-earth, then just say so. Please do not say they are shipping in radioactivity. If you may like to be informed, we are surrounded by radioactivity everyday but the dose is so low it is certainly not as dangerous as concentrated radioactive elements. For all you know your garden also have radioactivity if you can measure it


The rare earth ore itself is not radioactive, it's only the after product and waste product..


...after the radioactivity being set up at the ...

Despite febe18 making a cautionary note on what is actually "radioactive", Zing continued to declare that radioactivity is imported

I have changed the title of this thread because it said "radioactivity is being shipped in" ... that was either sensationalisation or just being misinforming. Please do not make statements like that if you do not fully understand the issue

[zinglicious]

You got to pardon me for my ignorance in scientific terms though I have try to be as accurate as can be when I actually stated in full sentence " after the radioactivity being set up at the cost of Rm2.5 billion cost and making it 2nd largest plant after China. ( but it should be the biggest plant to import rare earths from Down Under as China is not importing any rare earth).

I specifically said radio - activity and not radioactive materials which should be understood with the difference as rare earth from Downunder being processed into potentially dangerous radioactive materials with the plant processing activity at Kuantan. And it should be read as rare earths and not radioactive materials being imported.

There is no attempt to distort the fact as I merely sharing my concerns out of safety for Malaysians should there be any safety being compromised by floods or quakes. Just dunno why I am singled out for my poor sentencing and vague scientific terms where I was to distort the situation with my activity :confused:.

But of course, if I have mistaken for the errors, I appreciated the fact that I can avoid the mistakes and to be more politically correct. ;)

BTW, I had been zapped or exposed to radiation many a time when I was working closely to the radiologists at the x ray dept when I was promoting non iononic contrast media right in the x ray room .:eek:

[tupai]

the kuantan waste will be radio actived and will be forbidden by the world to be shipped ~ imagine a whole load of tanker with toxic/radioactive waste, suddenly kena perfect storm & sink in the ocean??? :eek:... (overland oK lah...so, the najis/waste gonna be buried somewhere inside this bolehland loh...Mai pen rai.:heheheh:

Now, it just Ozzie rare earth arrivals lah! Apa!

Plus what do i care? I am a pendatang and a minority with no recognition of deep rooting anyway.:cool:

The majority of the population are happy lah! So wake up and fight a more worthy cause lah...like feeding 'em wild dogs in ss16/1? :heheheh:

Yang Berlari TIUxlatotupai:cool:

[Naka]

Australia is also having lots of problems with radioactive waste.

Read all about it here. Google & you will see more.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/radioactive-waste-haunts-hunters-hill-residents-20111029-1mpb6.html

[kwchang]

...I specifically said radio - activity and not radioactive materials which should be understood with the difference as rare earth from Downunder being processed into potentially dangerous radioactive materials with the plant processing activity at Kuantan. And it should be read as rare earths and not radioactive materials being imported. Please don't try to wriggle out of your own mistake. How was it possible that what you posted in post #1 carried what you said "should be understood"? What is meant by radio activity? Is there such a word? When i googled for it, Google came back with "Did you mean: radioactivity ?" ... which means there is no such thing in the English/american dictionary. Furthermore, i checked your post #1 and #8 again and no way did you say that... you specifically wrote "radioactivity" and your first post was specifically saying that Lynas is now importing "radioactivity" (you said - "ship in the radioactivity all the way from Downunder")


...Just dunno why I am singled out for my poor sentencing and vague scientific terms... I am not picking on you but making a cautionary statement about putting up misleading information. BTW, Febe picked out the error before me so please be aware that no one is picking on you but your mistakes are too large to be ignored.

Posting to the www need care and we hope no one publishes distorted "facts". Remember that we have cyber laws to can either close down a website and to bring the administrators to court for causing public disorder through the propagation of rumors and false reporting that stir up public protests ... I cannot allow this to happen ! i hope everyone knows why I pick on bad reporting/posting to the forum

[zinglicious]

I dunno what to say - if it is my mistake of radio activity, then it should be a mistake. Or should i say it radioactive activity, radioactive factory or like somebody said radio actived? There may not be such words too!


The Kuantan court has lifted the injuction against the company and they can ship in the radioactivity all the way from Downunder. :p http://my.news.yahoo.com/high-court-lifts-suspension-lynas-licence-050502722.html

What I meant and trying to say in my zing language that rare earths into radiation activity but reading from the correct words the following post* 6 from Fabe , I refined it into rare earths in post * 8. ( i read, learned, adapted and updated )


That is why I can speculate months back that the GE is only gonna to held next year after the radioactivity being set up at the cost of Rm2.5 billion cost and making it 2nd largest plant after China. ( but it should be the biggest plant to import rare earths from Down Under as China is not importing any rare earth). And the size of Bolehland compared to China? Well,.......:rolleyes:

There is no malicious attempt to distort the facts , just a case of ignorance of proper scientific words used.

This reminded me a case of my chemistry teacher who had used to cut my marks when I misspelled oksijan from oksigen or when i wrote salur instead of saluran. :(

Hopefully, you can understand what I am trying to say and no banana markings on me. ;-)

[kwchang]

...What I meant and trying to say in my zing language that rare earths into radiation activity but reading from the correct words the following post* 6 from Fabe , I refined it into rare earths in post * 8. ( i read, learned, adapted and updated )...
Read #8 again ... you still said "radioactivity" when in fact when the rare earths brought in need not be radioactive. If I am not wrong, radioactivity only comes about after the extraction process and the waste accumulation brings out the radioactive elements due to their increased concentrations.

To avoid further problems, please avoid "zing language" ... that was the main cause of your problems in the past. I see you have been posting in normal language and I congratulate your willingness to be coherent and to-the-point.

May I say it again, i do not take this personally on you but it is my job to maintain that no misunderstandings occur which one day could be used as an excuse to close down our website. Peace be with you

[zinglicious]

Actually, i meant to say radio-activity in post 8*.

Just as somebody said
Observation by an uninvolved reader:

No offence, Zing. Brevity is the soul of wit. As a reader, I find your posts profound because of the multiple purple prose swimming in subsets of rhetoric. :D

Most of time, I do post as it flow from my mind juice and I did not know I would be marked for misspelled words or terms. But most of time, zing slang term is used cos I do not wanna to impose intended thoughts on readers but to seek opinions of others. It is open statement depending on which angles you look at it. After all, whenever I post a link or opened a new thread, it is because I wanna to be updated or corrected and not up close or personal. :cool:

Always on my mind "Peace and love" for the usj.com.my/ forum :)

[kwchang]

... most of time, zing slang term is used cos I do not wanna to impose intended thoughts on readers but to seek opinions of others.... The use of laid back prose (which is what I think you meant by zing slang) actually needs skill and we know of some who do that. However, believe me, it does not work in your case


... It is open statement depending on which angles you look at it.... if there are many possible views, then it is ambiguous and as you already know, some take the wrong meaning and that end up in arguments. I hope you now understand why some people get the wrong message all the time. First thing to remember in written words.. you cannot project yourself with body language or voice tones.. having lost that, people can read the message wrongly and I see it happens most of the time with you.


... After all, whenever I post a link or opened a new thread, it is because I wanna to be updated or corrected... If that is what you wanted, then don't say I am picking on you because I am trying to educate the rest on the need to say what is meant and not jabber away without knowing head or tail of what you are actually saying. On serious issues (like Lynas) please do not fool around because it can be read wrongly by the authorities whom we know do browse our site

So the important thing to remember is to be straight-forward and get to the point on sensitive subjects.

And where you took it as a compliment,

I find your posts profound because of the multiple purple prose swimming in subsets of rhetoric. the last part merely said that you were going around in circles. Although "rhetoric" can have good meaning but it can also be taken as
(in writing or speech) the undue use of exaggeration or display; bombast. So,was Dervish telling you that your prose was having too much unnecessary use of words and twists? Only Dervish can help clear up the real meaning of the intended advice. ..and then again, Dervish, in trying to be polite, made an ambiguous statement that could be taken either way

[zinglicious]

First and foremost, I post here without intending to be usj.com/my idol winner to generate likes votes. Sometimes , I post it to seek for opinions, find some answers and iSayman out of boredom for my wifey not talkng to me way past midnight. She doze off early while I sleep little day or night.

Second, I feel everybody is entitled to thier own opinions and hence even thier style of typing or prose. As far as I am concern I am not responsible if they dun understand me where I have tried not to be too opinionated. Hence, I dont dive straight on to the point where reservation is left to the discretions of the readers or replies. Moreover, most of them comes with links to share the message with the forummers. Perhaps I am guilty in most of the titles renamed over the subject which may sound ambiguous. But read it properly or between the lines under the bombastic titles, readers should be able to get around the riddles.

As for serious thread like Lynas, I dun see any harm if I had worded it wrongly as a layman from radio active to radioactivity, radio FM or radio AM, it is not in the frequency of committing any internet laws where unsubstantiated allegation or creating any public unrest in sedition or racial lines. Not only would usj.com.my/ would be shut down but I might be taken to the real pisang goreng plantation somewhere in Kamunting if, for instance, I alleged that actual radioactive materials were brought in where millions were paid for to ministars where they approved the radioactivity knowingly or other jibs and jabs without proof or figures.

Perhaps unknown to many people, not only the Special Branch is reading it, but politicians as well. I was taken aback when I was introduced to XXXXX politican at a temple dinner moons ago where I was not known to him until I said I was the chef owner of zinglicious restaurant. It rang a bell that he asked me if I knew or posted at usj.com.my/ where he said I cooked food there and goreng him too. Told him that I cooked public issues. And I dun even get paid for that public service like him. :heheheh:

Lastly, let it be on the record, I post without whims and fancies, especially those with political elements , it was done with open mind to ensure a better future for all Malaysians irrespective of the PR or BN. So nobody can influenced me without fears and favours if I post accordingly within the rules and regulations. I dun go up and personal and certainly not dogmatic about it. But of course, not many people like to hear the ugly truths no matter how concise it was written with voice tones or body languages. It is evident that the rakyat are worried and objected to the Lynas as it threatening the peace and safety for the people at Kuantan or in the Klang valley like me. I can stand up to voice my opinion and sit down to protest with my fingers over the radioactive concerns where all hells would brake loose if the Lynas factory were to be compromised by accident, floods and quakes. I dun wanna to die standing by radioactive zaps.:eek:

The good, bad or the ugly? It is up to the jury to decide if I am good in Zing Zang Zoom prose, bad in my posting and ugly being rhetoric in explaining my actions so far when asked. It is a question with extremes as they are some who may say Ah Jib is Gor while others thinks he is a Goner. My vote -? It is private and secret. I am not going to influence anyone without fears and favors. ( unless I am in my drunken feasts where I was given too much free Johnny Walker whiskey ). :D

No offence, Zing. Brevity is the soul of wit.