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CS Chua
21-10-2012, 10:30 PM
My staircase is currently covered with parquet. Everything else, upstairs and downstairs are tiled. I kept the parquet because I thought it looks good on the staircase. Am I right? If I want to change it, what other options are there? Non slippery and suitable for staircase. I thought of carpet but wifey is against it. Tiling it will make it look pretty but it will be slippery, right? Mind sharing what type of material is your staircase covered with?

zinglicious
21-10-2012, 10:38 PM
Have seen one beautiful tiling done on the stairs. It is multi color with fading colors on each mosiac tablets. Since it is small, it shhouldnt be slppery. I got them at the Houz where I even tiled it across my kitchen as border. But if you prefer , you can get the newer version of woods which is available there.

After awhile, I am being tiling specialist con sultant. :heheheh:

bslee
21-10-2012, 10:46 PM
There's so much choice depending on your personal taste and budget. You can have from marble to tiles to timber flooring to suit your preferred decor. Its all a matter of personal taste, not really following some current trend.
Personally I HATE the common kempas wood parquet flooring! Its so dated, easily scratched, worn down and can look horrible after some years, not to mention pieces periodically coming off, especially the cheap skate developer standard in many homes. Mine was HORRIBLE from day one and Sime UEP homes IGNORED my complaints. I had to spend money for a total refurbishment exercise.

CS Chua
21-10-2012, 11:33 PM
Have seen one beautiful tiling done on the stairs. It is multi color with fading colors on each mosiac tablets. Since it is small, it shhouldnt be slppery. I got them at the Houz where I even tiled it across my kitchen as border. But if you prefer , you can get the newer version of woods which is available there.

After awhile, I am being tiling specialist con sultant. :heheheh:

I know mosaic is making a come back but for staircase? I wonder how much it will cost to tile a normal size staircase.

zinglicious
21-10-2012, 11:46 PM
In Tiles We Trust - It is nice, last and Chirpy Cheep Cheep than you think. :cool:

As for you, it is non slippery and doesnt needs to be grinded like Marbles ;)

Like I have said @ post # 2, I can be " After awhile, I am being tiling specialist con sultant cum designer " :heheheh:

Heck, I even think of setting Con Sultancy tile designer as I have visited many homes with stairs to kitchens, Factory to Houz suppliers local to foreign Con tractors. And they have no single ideal of desining for my personal taste being copycat to the previous jobs they had done. Just kenot trust thier taste. :rolleyes:

And I didnt trust my skills or competence for laying the tiles either despite youtube or bsLee advice. :(

bslee
22-10-2012, 12:00 AM
I still say I hate parquet, because I'm believing it does have some extraordinary property to attract dust...lots of fine dust. I've to vacuum my rooms every few days. I'm horrified whenever I see the accumulated fine dust on the floor and inside the vacuum cleaner. Imagine I could have been breathing all this in for years.. :eek::eek:
I stand to be corrected, because I never faced such a problem in my previous home, that home never had any parquet flooring, but an age old imported and extremely durable vinyl tiles from long long ago.

zinglicious
22-10-2012, 12:17 AM
I think the wooden flooring attracted dusts because of its materials and small sizes of parguet. In USA, I dun see them using parquet but foot long wooden planks as flooring and for stair case. One of the reasons is because it would be damned cold during winter to step on tiles or marbles! Really get cold feet! :eek:

And I think the lenght sizes and material is superior than the parakuih we bought here. :rolleyes:

bslee
22-10-2012, 12:42 AM
And I think the lenght sizes and material is superior than the parakuih we bought here. :rolleyes:
You can have anything you want...limit is how deep is your pocket.
If I start looking for marble, I'll be looking to reject marble. I've seen them at some marble wholesaler in Perak. Friend of mine saved huge amount of dosh when building up his bungalow lot.

SiangMalam
22-10-2012, 01:13 AM
Best material for staircase is good teak wood blocks (like those they use for railway line sleepers) - non-slippery, lasting and good looking when matched with solid wrought-iron rails....

zinglicious
22-10-2012, 01:18 AM
Have seen one beautiful tiling done on the stairs. It is multi color with fading colors on each mosiac tablets. Since it is small, it shhouldnt be slppery. I got them at the Houz where I even tiled it across my kitchen as border. But if you prefer , you can get the newer version of woods which is available there.

After awhile, I am being tiling specialist con sultant. :heheheh:

This is tile whiich I had in my kitchen as border. http://static.zoovy.com/img/conceptvanity/W250-H187-Bffffff/magic_glass/t7m_green_mosaic_magic_glass_tile_1.jpg

But I would have choose this for stairways. http://www.bttradespace.com/image/getImage/784944F9DFBEC4B4E040BB0A462B166D-c1.jpg - IMHO - Bold and Beautiful

CS Chua
22-10-2012, 10:46 AM
I still say I hate parquet, because I'm believing it does have some extraordinary property to attract dust...lots of fine dust. I've to vacuum my rooms every few days. I'm horrified whenever I see the accumulated fine dust on the floor and inside the vacuum cleaner. Imagine I could have been breathing all this in for years.. :eek::eek:
I stand to be corrected, because I never faced such a problem in my previous home, that home never had any parquet flooring, but an age old imported and extremely durable vinyl tiles from long long ago.

Yes, I agree. Parquet and all wood attract dust. I am on a war path against dust after spending RM300 with an ENT doctor; removing carpets, curtains, putting all papers behind closed doors, etc. And now, removing the parquet because it is really dusty.

I was doing my morning walk today and saw a house being renovated. I talked to the contractor about my staircase. He quoted me RM1,800 for labor without tiles. The final figure may come up to RM3,000!! Wow.

cml
22-10-2012, 10:56 AM
There is a type of vinyl called vinyl planks and it looks like wooden planks. It is 3 mm thick. I am not sure how they do the edge for staircases but we are in the midst of doing some mock up rooms using this material. It is simply glued onto the cement flooring which needs to be fairly even. Maintenance is relatively fuss free and since its size is like 8 inch by 3 feet planks , not much room for dust to accumulate, no fear of warp or anything like that. It costs about RM6 per square foot for flooring, may costs a little more for staircase. It even has profiles like wood.

kuma
22-10-2012, 11:06 AM
Best material for staircase is good teak wood blocks (like those they use for railway line sleepers) - non-slippery, lasting and good looking when matched with solid wrought-iron rails....

I would go along with SM here...use wood, teak if within budget, after all stairs don't require much.

Look ahead...the last thing you need are slippery stairs in your old age....staircases are the worst place to slip and fall....in your old age, one fall is all you need to keep you permanently downstairs for the rest of your years. :eek:

CS Chua
22-10-2012, 11:14 AM
There is a type of vinyl called vinyl planks and it looks like wooden planks. It is 3 mm thick. I am not sure how they do the edge for staircases but we are in the midst of doing some mock up rooms using this material. It is simply glued onto the cement flooring which needs to be fairly even. Maintenance is relatively fuss free and since its size is like 8 inch by 3 feet planks , not much room for dust to accumulate, no fear of warp or anything like that. It costs about RM6 per square foot for flooring, may costs a little more for staircase. It even has profiles like wood.

Probably need to visit Houz Depot for more ideas. Or even Ikea. I remember that they have a section on flooring.

Rhiga
22-10-2012, 11:16 AM
I would go along with SM here...use wood, teak if within budget, after all stairs don't require much.

Look ahead...the last thing you need are slippery stairs in your old age....staircases are the worst place to slip and fall....in your old age, one fall is all you need to keep you permanently downstairs for the rest of your years. :eek:

Yup, wood is the right choice..

If teak is not wiithin budget, use other hardwood planks..

Malaysia is blessed with hardwood and there are some good hardwood flooring manufacturers here .. like Ekowood.

Again, big churn of flooring money goes to labour. It is wiser to use natural hardwood than the cheaper laminate wood planks...

Rhiga
22-10-2012, 11:17 AM
Probably need to visit Houz Depot for more ideas. Or even Ikea. I remember that they have a section on flooring.

I visited Houz Depot before...

Not impressed.. too many choices and staff are limited with product knowledge..

It is good to visit hardwood flooring showroom or browse their website for more info..

cml
22-10-2012, 11:34 AM
Dont use the laminated flooring stuff. Either use solid wood or vinyl. If cost is a factor then use vinyl. Vinyl is easier to maintain than wood and if scratched just remove and stick another piece. Solid wooden strips is nice, the bigger the better, again depends on budget.

Fabe18
22-10-2012, 11:42 AM
The problem with tiles/marble is that it's HARD, even with a properly nosed/rounded edges, it'll cause more than just blue black if anyone slip and fall. Wood and vinyl laminate still best from this safety perspective..

CS Chua
22-10-2012, 11:48 AM
Yup, wood is the right choice..

If teak is not wiithin budget, use other hardwood planks..

Malaysia is blessed with hardwood and there are some good hardwood flooring manufacturers here .. like Ekowood.

Again, big churn of flooring money goes to labour. It is wiser to use natural hardwood than the cheaper laminate wood planks...

Hard wood is very nice. I have been using hard wood for my carpentry and I really like it. But somehow, there is more maintenance when it comes to wood. After some years, it will need to be sanded and varnished. For the cold smooth tiles, there is no maintenance unless it gets chipped. Habis then.

bslee
22-10-2012, 12:22 PM
As with anything deemed fit, nothing is perfect. There's always elements of shortcomings, disadvantages and compromise. You'd know best what suits you. Again, its all a matter or personal preferences and your budget.
Meanwhile, today's weather seems ok right now. Spray painting a turntable wood plinth with Dulux Timbertone clear polyurethane finish. Gorgeous look after the refinishing job.
Polyurethane lacquer is suited for parquet or real timber flooring for protection and longivity.

Fabe18
22-10-2012, 12:38 PM
As with anything deemed fit, nothing is perfect. There's always elements of shortcomings, disadvantages and compromise. You'd know best what suits you. Again, its all a matter or personal preferences and your budget.
Meanwhile, today's weather seems ok right now. Spray painting a turntable wood plinth with Dulux Timbertone clear polyurethane finish. Gorgeous look after the refinishing job.
Polyurethane lacquer is suited for parquet or real timber flooring for protection and longivity.

Every material has its pros and cons....
Depends also very much whether u want it to be child and old folks friendly.

I know a friend who renovated his new house nicely with a lot of glass... But when his daughter came along it became an issue bcos the house is not toddler-friendly.

Nice is one thing, being functional and practical is another thing.

Rhiga
22-10-2012, 02:16 PM
As with anything deemed fit, nothing is perfect. There's always elements of shortcomings, disadvantages and compromise. You'd know best what suits you. Again, its all a matter or personal preferences and your budget.
Meanwhile, today's weather seems ok right now. Spray painting a turntable wood plinth with Dulux Timbertone clear polyurethane finish. Gorgeous look after the refinishing job.
Polyurethane lacquer is suited for parquet or real timber flooring for protection and longivity.

Before I moved in to my present house, I get a contractor to apply two layers of PU lacquer on all my bedrooms’ hardwood flooring.

Apply the first layer... wait until completely dry and then the 2nd layer.

I remember I paid RM300 for master bedroom, and RM200 each for other rooms.

It is worth the money, the hardwood floor glazes and is easier to maintain.

It is like a layer of silicon or glass sticks on the hardwood surface and hence no dust can accumulate on the hairline cracks of wood.

PU lacquer is also water resistant… This is a big help when you have to mop the floor yourself, a bit of water on the wooden floor is no harm at all.

And again, the material cost is cheap. I found out from a DIY shop later – total cost of all the lacquer (Season) is about RM90..

Rhiga
22-10-2012, 02:32 PM
Hard wood is very nice. I have been using hard wood for my carpentry and I really like it. But somehow, there is more maintenance when it comes to wood. After some years, it will need to be sanded and varnished. For the cold smooth tiles, there is no maintenance unless it gets chipped. Habis then.

Use homogeneous tiles, not ceramic tiles to avoid it get chipped.

Nowadays, there are many types of tile for different applications.

There are tiles specifically for bathroom for anti-slippery purpose.

I am sure there is tile specifically designed for staircase..


For bedroom and study room, wooden flooring is the best choice..

There is nothing compare to the warm feeling when you walk/step on the wood.

There are many types of hardwood, choosing to right one to suit your usage is critical to the lifespan of the wooden floor. If you apply PU lacquer like what BS suggested, the hardwood can last longer...

I have stayed in my present place for 6 years and the wooden flooring is still as good as new..

I am sure it can last for another 5 more years before a sanding job is required.

zinglicious
22-10-2012, 02:57 PM
Make sure you double insure it with anti termite if you are staying in the condo. It takes a pair of them in a cardboard and soon with thier offsprings they might be building own lifestyle condo. I took pictures of it but was deleted unintentionally. Not only they have the condo but they even have the lanscaped on the concrete wall measuring up to 5x5 and hollow door frames. :eek:

bslee
22-10-2012, 02:58 PM
Its imperative all real timber floor have some durable protective layer because its subjected to wear n tear. Flooring isn't the same as timber funiture where stain or light finish is to enhance its looks.
Buy the best branded PU lacquer money can buy, once and for all. Cheap lacquer isn't durable, much lower resistance to water and you get what you pay for. Of course contractors buy and apply the cheapest types unless you specify exactly what you want. Just like a paint job. One can't naturally be ignorant. Just consult some well known paint shop or paint manufacturer, they'll certainly oblige by advising you on your requirement. Try best never to compromise, because you'd regret it sooner or later.

SiangMalam
22-10-2012, 03:24 PM
Whatever materials you choose for your staircase and within your personal budgets, always remember to sit down and have a word with your maid, whether she is Filipino, Indonesian, Myanmarese, Cambodian or local....

1. USE AS LITTLE WATER AS POSSIBLE;

2. RINSE OFF THE DETERGENT FROM THE STAIRCASE;

3. DRY AND DRY AGAIN PROPERLY

I am sure you know why I stress on the above....

CS Chua
22-10-2012, 04:06 PM
I talked to the contractor about tiling. Since the staircase is 4 feet wide, he recommended 1'x1' smooth tile for both left and right. For the middle section, he suggested a 1'x2' tile which has non-slip surface. He said this is the current trend. The old trend was to place a 3" tile with grooves on the edge of each step. Anyway, the home finance minister said go for tiles to match the upstairs and downstairs flooring. So, focus is on the type of tiles now. But thanks for the very interesting conversation. Looks like staircase is important to everybody.

zinglicious
22-10-2012, 04:26 PM
I would trust the contractor for thier handy workmanship ...but not thier desining idea. What is nice and updated to him, might not appeal to you and your home minister. At least, ask him for pictures done for his handy work. And imagine whether it blend with the overall theme of your house.

I have talked to several contractors including my relative who specialized just in tilings with years of experience But thier designings were so out of impressions when I compared with mine ( with pictures from various worldwide condo designs & other real homes ) and what I wanted. Luckily I had time to change the mosiac tilings as I was too busy to buy it initally. It nearly disrupt the color tone of my whole kitchen which I wanted to reflect which has the hints of green freshness on the clean white tone kitchen. Moreover, I intend to put on stainless cabinets on certain spots if I decided to stay in there for good and if I have enuf dough.

However, the ones at the bathrooms were done up based on the contractor advice where my wifey took the advice upon. just lost the impact what it should be as the borders were not done correctly.

I using the same principle of cooking meals as a mean Olde Chef whether I prepare meals based on the diners preference - not what I can cook. So, is the contractor based on what he can tile without the grand design of your overall house theme?

CS Chua
22-10-2012, 08:07 PM
I would trust the contractor for thier handy workmanship ...but not thier desining idea. What is nice and updated to him, might not appeal to you and your home minister. At least, ask him for pictures done for his handy work. And imagine whether it blend with the overall theme of your house.

I have talked to several contractors including my relative who specialized just in tilings with years of experience But thier designings were so out of impressions when I compared with mine ( with pictures from various worldwide condo designs & other real homes ) and what I wanted. Luckily I had time to change the mosiac tilings as I was too busy to buy it initally. It nearly disrupt the color tone of my whole kitchen which I wanted to reflect which has the hints of green freshness on the clean white tone kitchen. Moreover, I intend to put on stainless cabinets on certain spots if I decided to stay in there for good and if I have enuf dough.

However, the ones at the bathrooms were done up based on the contractor advice where my wifey took the advice upon. just lost the impact what it should be as the borders were not done correctly.

I using the same principle of cooking meals as a mean Olde Chef whether I prepare meals based on the diners preference - not what I can cook. So, is the contractor based on what he can tile without the grand design of your overall house theme?
Where did you buy your mosaic tiles? Mind taking a picture of your staircase and pose here?

zinglicious
23-10-2012, 03:38 AM
The normal white tiles were bought by wifey at the shops at Jinjang while the mosiac used for borders were bought at Houz at Mutiara Damansara. I posted the similar mosiac at post#3

I dun have any stairs in my condo and those stairway photographs were taken at Desa Parkcity and Valencia homes but were accidentally deleted.

CS Chua
23-10-2012, 09:21 AM
The normal white tiles were bought by wifey at the shops at Jinjang while the mosiac used for borders were bought at Houz at Mutiara Damansara. I posted the similar mosiac at post#3

I dun have any stairs in my condo and those stairway photographs were taken at Desa Parkcity and Valencia homes but were accidentally deleted.

OK, thanks. But if you can reposts those photos, that will be great. If not, no worries.