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20-05-2003, 11:42 PM
Just a thought~
Alot of our USJ members uses not their real names in this Forum.
Mine is real..Jeff's is real..I wonder why some people like to hide
their real names?
And we complain of no transparency?
21-05-2003, 06:39 AM
This is an interesting point.
It's alright to use nic in IRC.
But in a neighbourhood where we interact F2F (Face-to-Face), it
would be nice if we get to know each other, and to be able to
greet each other by the first name.
One Satish, one Jeff.
We have been using our real name since Day One of this website.
There are pcyeoh, Patrick, Jayen, EL Ho, KW Chang, and probably
21-05-2003, 09:03 AM
My input is that if you want to divulge your personal information, do so using the private message function or e-mail personally to the one you want to introduce yourself to. The reason why we hide behind pseudonyms in a public forum such as this is to protect our privacy in case of unscrupulous criminals who want to track you down and steal your identity...
21-05-2003, 09:22 AM
Mine, almost real :)
21-05-2003, 11:34 AM
I think for some, it is to prevent their boss from finding out that they had been actively debating on a public Forum on office time, using the office Internet access and office PC :D
Anyone want to admit to that?
I'm online now and my name is real, so I may get the boot one day if my boss found out !!
21-05-2003, 11:51 AM
Me, always online using office PC and LAN. No PC and internet connection at home. Boss always see me surfing, e-mailing etc, but no problem. Yet :D
Oh-oh........ guilty as charged.
IN is my initials. (Almost real name).
I only use the internet in the office.
21-05-2003, 01:18 PM
Mine is real.
21-05-2003, 02:14 PM
Well, mine is real one : CH (initial) of Malaysia. => chofmy
21-05-2003, 03:32 PM
mine is a nick i used for a long time ago. (some 7 yrs ago)
some of my friend know or address me by my nick rather than my real name.
21-05-2003, 06:47 PM
kwchang has spoken for me. but i also have another id, real name, kind of unique so its easily recognisable as belonging to me. its used for all my other e-mail accounts. can't use it in the office now. my boss from usj too and probably reading all these posts.
my saving grace - i'm accessible by pte msg and e-mail (2 addr). i've been contacted by other forum members b4 and i gladly reply each and every correspondence. the first one i got in this name was titled "its a mystery who u are". for my job, i'll remain the mysterious joker, but to jeff & co, i can't hide from u.
21-05-2003, 08:37 PM
As were beginning to start this USJ e-community somw years ago, we used to have teh tarik sessions at coffeshops..
A lot of matters got actioned during those sessions for the community's sake..like our blood list..our water problem..b4 that
was the house assessment reduction...we met face 2 face..nn we knew each other in addition to our names. like Fonzie..who is in the mountains..
Know I notice..we even see people (who do not use their real names) to attack another, in the process using some foul words!
This is not e-community!..This is hiding behing the curtain..
Jeff, myself + jb125 have gone on TV/newspapers to hilite the water issues..nn we used our real names.we have nothing to hide..
I m proud of the name given by my parents.
Thats why I was wondering..is there a real reason to use "alternative" names..
No prob ..just wondering..~
RM0.00001 sens..getting poorer by the day..
21-05-2003, 08:48 PM
'tupai' came about and around my porch when i signed up usj.com. Really no joke, there are a few chips&dales running around my place in ss17.
Otherwise, i usually sign my name keith khoo.
tupai aka keithK:)
21-05-2003, 09:07 PM
Now we are getting closer...
When we have a chance..we shud meet up at say Sri Melor..or
Weng Soon Jaya...not 2 buy VCDs,
but to chit chat about our community, and how we can make USJ a better place to LIVE!
I know that a lot of our USJ e-community are people at "high"
places, lots of experience...nn so forth..
As Malaysians, we shud put our knowledge to good use for the
community, thereby we do not have to wait for some YB to solve
our "petty" problems.
CHeers!..we shud have a pinta now..
I just get a kick when you guys address me as 'My Lord' or 'Dear Lord'!!:D Cool isn't it.
But otherwise, I'm more popularly known as Jerry.
22-05-2003, 10:44 AM
Being busy.....but this topic is cool......!
Yeah! Satish.....reminds me of old times' teh tarik sessions. I'll "drop by" (literally) if there is a session on....work schedules, permitting of course....
I got my handle from "Happy Days" sitcom....Henry Winkler looks cool man! Anyone remembers when it first started on local TV? Unfortunately "my Main Man" the late Patrick Loo is not with us - yet another cool person. God bless you, my man!
Let's keep our nicks online and we get to know each other when we have teh tarik sessions, shall we?
Happy days are here again?!
CH is my initial that I used in many occations.
My boss also called me CH.
I went for Money and You program and they all known me as CH.
There are people who asked is this CH that CH that I know about from somewhere ... and I get to meet one of the community member who also a Money and You graduate and get some business done ...
I did not use my full name because people always mispronaunce my name.:( Thus an initial is better that way, though I am proud with the name my parents gave me.
sidenote: C H = Chee Hung.
22-05-2003, 11:42 AM
I believe some people might chose a descriptive nickname to promote a certain image or invite a particular response. And sometime the chosen nickname does reflects the behaviour or characteristics of the real person.
Beside served as a mask not only to hide identity, it is used to call attention through the expressive power and imaginativeness of ones mask.
All is up to an individual preferences. There is no right or wrong in this case but rather the acceptance of the rest of the forum communities.
any sessions to get to know the members??:p
22-05-2003, 01:14 PM
mine is very real too. and i do this forum at work too, time permitting. my boss is cool about it. of course i feed him forum news. print the interesting, smoking and "firey" ones for his consumption.:D
Sometimes the name has already been taken up so we are forced to use other names.
22-05-2003, 02:30 PM
Whatever names you all go by. Just want you all to know that it was always great meeting up at all those KYB (Know You Better) sessions. You are all generally wonderful people and it has been great knowing and having you all as neighbours and friends. Let us just spare a thought for Loo and Harp. Loo could be very outspoken but deep down he was still a great guy.
22-05-2003, 05:59 PM
Lets meet for a teh tarik session and get to know the e-community face-2-face.
22-05-2003, 09:43 PM
mine is an old gaming and irc nick. alternatively i go by 'sith lord julz' but star wars is so out.
how comfortable you are would inevitably determine how much you want to share with others.
a few years ago i had a bad incident where someone stalked me. i was honest at that point... oh yeah i'm so and so from taylor's college, doing this and this program... the guy apparently was in the same college as i was.
i thought what the heck, we were from the same college, same community, same chat room, what's wrong right. i was WRONG.
he started following me everywhere, even when i walked back to my house in usj2 he'd follow from a distance.
one day i saw him on the net again and he was angry at me... because i came out of the library and did not say hi to him. i didn't even know who he was! he started telling me how he loved me but how he hated me now, how i was 'mean' and 'cruel' - he got really spooky. i logged out. then i informed the university who helped track him down and give him a stern warning. (for being a nut apart from anything)
that taught me a lesson - my real name has no place on the net, and you have no idea who the other person on the other side is. he could sound really nice but turn out to be a real weirdo later.
if i want to meet up with ppl later that is a good thing, i have done so, only after a lot of thinking. but i won't publish my name to be 'honest' when the ppl who come to this forum and read things, pick up i.p addresses and what have you not are from all sorts of walks of life, and may not be forum members themselves. you can never be too cautious.
i am the sort of person to delist my name from the phone directory. but i feel that as a woman who lives on my own mostly... i can never be too cautious.
i think it may be a bit different with guys than the women... but still.... you can never be too cautious.
i think i overused 'you can never be too cautious' too many times :)
23-05-2003, 12:05 PM
I use this nick because its combination of my real nama Hisham Ishak = HISHA L IS :D anyway in the world of IRC and other forum ppl know me by the nick pantunman ... why pantun? hahaha dunno lah...
anyway..when is you guys next teh tarik session? I world love to
join in...frankly I am knew to this subang jaya area...move in to Putra Heights last year...still not familiar with the nice place for
23-05-2003, 01:45 PM
Your Highness Empress Julz, I concur with you. One can never be too careful in these days and age. I have worked with a certain social body before and I know the many kinds of weirdo there are out there. Even the males should not be any less careful. The ladies may get harassed, molested or even raped but the men can get waylaid, robbed and perhaps even maimed.
So, like I said before.. whatever names you all go by....it doesnt really matter. Life is short and we only get to meet each other once in this lifetime. Let's just learn to luv each other for his/her goodness.
23-05-2003, 07:04 PM
don't lah refer to me as HRH..... shy...
but yeah, can't be too careful.
in the UK they have police squads who go into children's chatrooms pretending to be kids, to catch out ppl who are looking for children for sex. it is so sad that there are ppl like this out there, and even sesame street forums are not safe for kids.
but that is life, and this is the (sort of sad) world we live in.
24-05-2003, 12:01 AM
I'm from the US, and i'm not embarrassed to admit my name. I think the whole us involvement with Iraq is b.s. and i'm completely against it. I went to every anti-war rally in nyc and one in washington d.c.
We're starting a new movement over here called the Progressive Labor Party where we're accumulating an enormous following of people around the globe to stand up to the injustices of the US Government and its corruption, greed, and lies.
if you want to check it out i think the web address for the party is http://www.plp.org
And my name is Theresa
not all americans are blinded by the media and the government, its just that with the Patriot Act, the freedoms we used to have are limited to squat. we are barely allowed to have anti-war rally's. the cops are given now all this free jurisdiction to arrest anyone anti-government, anti-war, or along those lines. if you seem anti war people call you anti-american. no no, i'm anti- imperialism and anti-b.s.
24-05-2003, 12:15 AM
sinleong is my real name.
i understand if some people rather use their nick. some of the things we discuss here are so sensitive...
24-05-2003, 02:02 PM
uchangeng is a real name. it belongs to me ever since i was born. Jeff would call out "uchangeng!" whenever we meet around taipan.
I prefer to address a person, especially my neighbors, real name. but we do also have security to think about. So, if you're not comfortable revealing your name your folks gave you, have it your way. It is perfectly fine. nothing wrong. no mishap will ever fall on you. not a curse.
EJ call me Mr. U. you can call me uchangeng if you like. But, I hope no one would call me "Hey U!" Don't do this.
I DO NOT surrender my IC to security when I visit friends at their apartments.
I DO NOT walk downtown with my name written all over my shirt.
I DO NOT open my door to strangers trying to sell me fogging services.
I DO NOT give my password to anyone over the phone.
AND until the day I meet you for TT, I will not use my real name in a forum like this. No sir, not on your life.
You still want to know what I am hiding? More importantly is from whom I am hiding my details. I am not exposing myself to BAD guys.
You know the what the trouble is with us good guys?
We leave our houses unprotected.
House owners think that an alarm system is a very big deal.
Credit card payments are sent by post.
Signatures, addresses, names and card numbers are all in one envelope.
We make it easy for them and then we scream at the police for not doing their jobs.
Value your security. Be more responsible. Your family depends on your doing so. :mad:
24-05-2003, 03:44 PM
No problem, jsu...is it?
to improve on your "security"..may we call you by ...
say a 11 digit number, instead of jsu...?
You never know...there are people that can decipher jsu to get your real name..~
just a thought..
That tells a lot doesn't it? And that was not a thought. That was a hit below the belt. I wonder why you have to do that. Did I hit too close to the truth for comfort?
You are already known by a 12 digit number, if you have to be reminded.
24-05-2003, 11:49 PM
Aya..did not mean to hit below the belt..
I am sorry if u felt offended..
I tried to give comparison between names nn digits..it was meant
to show that names are easir to remember..
Thats why we all were given names..not digits...
But some prefer to use different names on IRC..on the net..
I do not have problem wz that..
Reason was also to hilite..some people using "nicknames"
like to use foul words/language on the net..(in this web site too)
why..because..they feel secure not using their real names..
25-05-2003, 04:45 AM
jsu has some very good points we can all learn from. i think he has been the most practical and security concious on this thread where identity is concerned.
it pays to be conciencous and not easy with personal information like first names. even if you're a grown man whose capable of defending himself, your family may pay the price for your ease where disclosing information is concerned.
and what do you win from telling the next guy what your first name is? nothing. but you open endless doors of 'possibilities'.
i feel especially for the surrendering of ICs point jsu brought up. I notice a lot of msians don't have a problem giving their ICs in to security guards to hold for safekeeping at apartments or buildings. (amongst other such ppl who do not have the right to request to view it)
who gave security guards the authority to do so, and what's to say that they're not up to no good? do you know the security guard in person? do you know what he may be up to? what makes you think that a person earning a mere RM3 an hour may not turn out to look for money in a better way, by using your IC?
the IC has a lot of details on it, from address to full name, to date of birth, and fingerprinting. one can only imagine the evil that another can come up to if a copy of such lands in the other's hands, or even an original.
i am for one, against ICs that are too descriptive. I would prefer it if our ICs merely stated name and IC number, perhaps a photo as well. blood type is quite useful in case of an emergency.
other details like address can be checked out later.
and the 'religion' portion in our current IC... what a useless piece of information that serves no purpose but to stereotype and create class distinction. you'd think the inventors of the current IC would have thought of something useful like blood type, and not religion. what about religionless people/ free thinkers?
a few months ago when my bf and myself were at 1 utama, a security guard thought he'd be funny with my bf, who is a foreigner, and he stopped him and asked him for documents. my bf being a very practical guy asked him whether he was the police, and what restraining orders does he have in such circumstances.
the guy ran away!
i had a friend who had a guy who was stalking her. he got to her apartment number by bribing the security guard for it.
do i trust security guards? not one bit. i suggest others be wary and careful with who they leave their ICs with.
27-05-2003, 09:25 PM
When I brought my son to apply for his IC., I was to fill out a form that required me to mention "religion". I asked the officer whether the "religion" will be etched into the electronic card. The officer looked annoyed and asked me why? I reasoned that in case my son chosed to change his religion later on in his life, what would happen? Furthermore, I made it clear that at 12, my son could not determine his religion, not yet. I may be a Christian, but that was me, my son was my son. 5 minutes later, the officer said to me, hem and haw, in low voice "...only the Muslim were required by law to print their religion on the card".
What a relief!
28-05-2003, 02:26 AM
only the muslims have to do that? thank goodness....
but when i wanted to apply i was sort of told to 'gostan balik' if i don't quite have a religion!
religion is such a private matter between one self and God. that is the kind of thing i do not want to share with the public at large.
That is a good news.
Who knows one day I want to start a new religion and my followers can just switch without any hassle on their legal part.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
28-05-2003, 04:22 PM
I think the reason religion is stated on IC was for Jabatan Agama's enforcement team. It is meant to make it easier for them to check whether the person's a muslim when doing enforcement during Ramadhan and khalwat. Some non-muslims, especially from Thai origins and mixed Indian-Chinese parentage may look like a Malay at first glance. And since Malay are predominantly Muslim, these non-muslim might be mistaken to be muslim during the enforcement. To save either parties from embarassment, I guess.
It should be a personal opinion whether one wants to state their religion or not. If the muslim wants to eat during the day, in public, during Ramadhan, he'll keep on doing it if he knows he won't get caught by the authorities. Then it's a matter between him and God.
28-05-2003, 07:03 PM
yeah joejaffar... after i come back from the beach i'm often confused as a malay... a bit annoying during ramadhan.
but really, if a malay does not want to fast, it's really their own business... between him and God like what you said...
29-05-2003, 08:29 AM
I think right after JSU's and Satish's comments, Empress moved out of topic by mentioning having 'religion' on her IC - and we changed to a discussion on being or not being Malay.
Want to start a new thread?
29-05-2003, 09:49 AM
haha... never thought a nickname would be a 'topic' in this forum. I myself like to use names that kinda reflect me, but at the same time i dont hide my real name. Anyone who checks me out, will be able to find out. I just get a kick out of knowing who is interested enough to know more about me to want to check out my profiles and info on the net. It's obvious i leave enough trails to lead to my info. Up to anyone to look.. that's all. :)
P/S: had to come back and edit my typos. hehehe
29-05-2003, 06:24 PM
start new thread... start new thread...
30-05-2003, 04:42 PM
how do you all select your nickname/handles when you enter the online realm? just a curious thought.. :D
I have no imagination.... I just use my initials.
Oh, hang on... my name means rainbow in a foreign language, so i've used that once or twice.
03-06-2003, 11:43 AM
Is it really true that people stop you during ramadhan if you look malay/muslim and you eat.........??? Shoott....whatahell do they ask, ' ehm sorry sir aren't you a muslim and suppose to be fasting?' Geezz that could be really annoying isn't it...
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