Health & Beauty

[patrick]

GOOD NEWS to all our lady members on USJ.COM. We have managed to persuade a friend to join our website and provide a venue for ladies to raise all those thousand and one questions they had always wanted to raise regarding skin care and beauty.

Dr Lim is an Australian qualified doctor, with a Cosmetic Science Diploma from UK. She has been in the cosmetic dermatology business for the last five over years, and now operates her own practice from Mt Kiara Plaza. Her services include:

1. Medlite pigment laser - removes all types of pigmentation including tattoos, birthmarks, Mongolian spots, freckles, cafe au lait marks, sunspots, age spots.

2. Intense Pulsed Light Skin rejuvenation - removes superficial
pigmentation, shrinks pores, removes fine lines, broken

3. Intense Pulsed Light Hair removal - on all parts of body
4. Microdermabrasion - treatment for rejuvenating skin, minimises scars (e.g. acne scars), decreases pigmentation, wrinkles, etc.

5. Chemical peel - removes pigmentation, acne, wrinkles, etc

6. Botox & Restylane & Nufill injections for depressed scars, deep wrinkles

7. Electrosurgery for removal of lumps & bumps e.g. oil spots. milia, warts, moles.

8. Iontophoresis - good for treating pigmentation, skin firming, acne

9. Hair loss treatment

10. Weight loss & maintenance for health programme

11. Brava breast enhancement & shaping system

Please post your questions here and the good Doctor will respond to all relevant issues. By all means, stay anonymous if you wish to. Trust our lady friends will find this 'Column' interesting and useful.

[patrick]

Dr Lim is offering the good folks in SJ a very special offer whilst stocks (as below) last. Patrick

The Neostrata promotion packs below are still available till stocks last:

1. Aging Defense System
consists of - pha facial cleanser
- bionic face serum
- bionic lotion

2. Anti-acne system
consists of - clarifying cleanser
- oil-control gel
- spot treatment gel

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[patrick]

Dear folks,

I am now in the midst of revamping my clinic services and will be launching some new products & laser machines on July 27th next month. You will be receiving an invitation for that shortly.

I will also be sending out weekly (or bimonthly) snippets of information on the Science Against the Effects of Aging. I aim to provide informed, unbiased information in the field of anti-aging research & new cosmetic innovations. The topics selected will frequently be based on the questions asked by my patients. Some of the mail-outs will also be informing you all about any new products or services I have in my clinic (there has to be some sales talk!)

For those of you who do not wish to receive these emails, please reply to indicate so.

This week's question is:
What is an appropriate longevity diet? What should I eat for my skin condition?
Below I have listed a "must buy" shopping list which I have compiled based on foods which have been well-researched and shown to have beneficial effects on anti-aging, anti-cancer, anti-oxidant etc. The list is by no means exhaustive, but it's a start!

Fruits & veges section (just about everything in this section of the supermarket have some medicinal gems)
- garlic, onion, scallion, leeks, chives
- cruciferous greens - brocolli, cauliflower, cabbage, brussel sprouts
- ****ake mushrooms
- green leafy vegs e.g. spinach
- orange veg - carrots, sweet potatoes, pumpkin, papaya, mango, cantaloupe
- red vegs - tomatoes

Meats
- Fish esp salmon ( sharks, tuna reputedly have too much mercury on board)
- Lean chicken or turkey
- lean red meat
no viscera!

Dairy
- low fat yoghurt (plain! mix it with fresh fruits - more palatable)
- Yoghurt drinks. Vitagen etc has far too much sugar, but if it is the only source of probiotics that the kids will consume, it's better than no consumption at all!
- Low fat milk
- No butter or margarine

Drinks
- soyabean /taufoo
- green tea (oolong tea for eczema sufferers)

Cooking oil - olive oil

Bread - whole grain

Rice - brown unpolished rice

Eggs - contrary to popular belief is good for you - excellent source of lean protein.

For those of you who shop in Chinese herb shops, ginseng, gingko & dong quai now have very solid scientific evidence of health benefits. Chinese herbs are another source of great medicines, but it's just that not enough Western-conducted studies have been done to give it the recognition that it deserves. When buying Chinese medicine, try to buy the real roots & plants to avoid steroid contamination in tablets or capsules.

My question is ... how do you creatively cook all these healthy foods to make it a gastronomic feast? If anyone has any recipes to share, I would appreciate if you could send them to me!

Look younger, live longer

Dr. Lim
:cool:

[patrick]

Dear all,

Welcome to my 2nd e-newsletter. Firstly, some house-keeping. One of my patients mentioned that I omitted legumes from last week's shopping list. Indeed, I did. Legumes (beans, etc) are a very important food group which can help alleviate diabetes, high cholesterol; it also has some anti-cancer properties and has plenty of fibre to help constipation. So, add that to the list!

This week's topic deals with placenta "live cell therapy". For those of you who have never heard of it...briefly...."Live cell therapy" is an injection of fresh cells (commonly obtained from sheep placenta, some unreputable brands use human placenta from China!) into your body to stimulate cell renewal. Anecdotal benefits include finer, even-toned skin, firming up of skin & sagging breasts. boosting immune systems, improving sleep, enhancing energy & stamina, improving blood circulation, easing menstrual & menopausal symptoms and boosting sex drive. This has been famously practised in Clinic La Prairie in Montreaux, Switzerland. It has a big clientele consisting of the very rich & famous around the world. To enhance international business, they have also come up with an oral encapsulated version which is also anecdotally, effective.

So, what's the real deal? Is this really the magic bullet?
We have to address 2 questions, firstly about LIVE CELL INJECTIONS.

1) Is it really effective?
First of all, there are no studies in peer-reviewed journals to support claims of it's effectiveness. However, I sincerely believe in it's benefits as listed above. I have heard from unbiased reliable sources (i.e. a Japanese physician friend, not someone locally who is trying to sell me placenta products) who can attest to its effectiveness. Moreover, live cell therapy has been practised for decades and has a very strong following world-wide for those who can afford it. If there are no benefits, people wouldn't pay good money for it.

2) Is it safe?
The short answer is NO. The major complication of live cell injections is severe allergic shock (drop in blood pressure, shutting down of breathing tubes, swelling of the whole face) which can be fatal. Hence, it should definitely not be administered in conditions that are done currrently in Malaysia i.e. at the back of beauty salons by medically-unqualified people. It also being done discreetly at some medical clinics. However, if it is a clinic which has no resuscitative facilities, it is not safe either. Clinic La Prairie in Switzerland is a hospital with full medical facilities, hence can conduct live cell injections relatively safely.

Therefore, I do not advocate live cell injections for various reasons:

Firstly, it is NOT registered by Ministry of Health Malaysia (contrary to a lie that is being propagated at the moment, a brand of live cell/placenta injections called VITA X, is NOT registered with the Ministry of Health (MOH) - this fact I have double checked with the Ministry)

Secondly, the risk of anaphylaxis (=severe allergic shock) is too high and can result in death.

There are only 2 conditions whereby I would advocate live cell therapy - full approval by Ministry of Health Malaysia and administration in a hospital setting. Until then, I am against it.


How about live cell/placenta ORAL CAPSULES?
Well, so far, deemed safe and certain brands have been approved.
There are only testimonials about its effectiveness and since Clinic La Prairie has an oral version, there are probably SOME benefits.

For those who want to try oral placenta capsules, I would choose a brand that has been approved by MOH (approved for safety). Certain brands are derived from human placenta and all sorts of diseases including AIDS can be potentially transmitted.
I would recommend a brand called VC SHEEP PLACENTA EXTRACT - manufactured in Australia, fully approved by MOH Malaysia. It retails for RM368 and is available in my clinic. I do not have any financial interest in this company but I recommend it because it is fully registered and has been tested to be free of heavy metals, steroids and hormones. Their website is www.vidalinworld.com.


I welcome any further questions on this week's topic and please circulate this email to your friends who are interested in this popular supplement.

Look younger, live longer

Dr. Lim

[patrick]

Dear folks,

My new laser machine has arrived! It is the new generation LYRA i long-pulsed Nd-Yag laser.

It can do the following:

1. Facial & leg veins - Up to 4 mm diameter leg veins can be removed. It can coagulate small vessels in as little as a single session. Larger leg veins will require more (usually 2) sessions. This requires an application of local anaesthetic cream for 1 hour to reduce the discomfort.

2. Type 2 skin rejuvenation i.e. stimulates collagen production to firm up the skin, decrease fine lines, wrinkles, shrink pores, minimise scarring. Compared to IPL (which a lot of you have tried), this laser specialises in type 2 rejuvenation, whereas, IPL does both type 1 (i.e. removal of superficial pigmentation) & type 2 rejuvenation but specialises in neither.
Usually for best results, 6 sessions 3 weeks apart are required. After 6 sessions, skin improvement can last 1 year.
Most importantly, there is no pain (really!), definitely less painful than IPL. But it is slightly more painful on the hip pocket nerve.
For those interested, please call for pricing.

3. Permanent hair removal - again not too painful (local anaesthetic cream can be applied for those with a low pain threshold). Advantage of this laser compared to other systems is that it is safe and won't cause burns even for dark skin types or if you have a tan. The laser beam is shot through a cold window, hence the epidermis is protected and the paucity of pain.

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[sky]

Very HARD-SELL wor! hmmmm :rolleyes:

[lady-o-leisure]

Any idea of how much it might cost for removal of spider veins behind the knees?

[patrick]

Cost is based on laser time i.e. 300 for 5 minutes laser time. I would estimate veins behind knees to take 2 sessions max, total cost anything between 500 -1000, depending on laser time (i.e.no. & length of veins)

[patrick]

Beauty News.

To want to look good is a basic human desire. We are bombarded everyday by advertisements claiming to make us look younger overnight. I'm frequently informed by my clients that beauticians bombard them with a barrage of claims that often induces them to sign up for another RM2,000 course of facials or another thousand on new products. What is true and what is fiction?

Here are some common questions asked by my clients:

1. Do we need to "deep cleanse" our skins?
For most people, water and a mild cleanser used twice daily is sufficient. If you have very dry skin, use a soap-free cleanser. If you have acne-prone skin, you may want to use a cleanser with added anti-bacterial ingredients. If you wear heavy make-up, use a cold cream (makeup remover) before the cleansing. Good cleansers need not cost a bomb; even good brands should cost less than RM100.
Don't believe advertising hype that "deep cleansing" is necessary to rid your skin of dirt and "impurities". Facials are pleasant and relaxing but they don't "restore" or "rejuvenate" your skin. Overzealous extraction is actually harmful and can cause dyspigmentation and scarring.

2. What can I expect from facial masks?
Facial masks can cleanse the skin and leave it looking and feeling smooth for a few minutes to hours. As the mask dries, it produces a tightening, tingling feeling that makes one think something is happening but there is no scientific evidence that skin ageing will be reversed.

3. Do facial exercises prevent wrinkles?
No, they do not; in fact, the opposite is true. Facial movements such as laughing, frowning, etc cause wrinkles. That is why doctors inject BTA ("Botox") into strategic areas to relax facial muscles so that wrinkles cannot form. (BTW, I'm not suggesting that laughing is detrimental to your skin!)

4. Do facial muscle stimulators counteract facial sagging?
I guess it does for a few days but it has to be repeated weekly to maintain the results and is it worth the trade-off of getting more wrinkles? Facial sagging is an inevitability caused by gravity acting on us upright bipedal hominids. I see it only as a cosmetic problem in people who have put on too much weight around the face i.e. it's the fat that is sagging, not so much the facial muscles. People who have maintained a reasonable weight all their lives don't complain much of face sagging. In fact, I have lots of slim 50+ clients who don't complain of face sagging ( but they do so of wrinkles!) The message is, maintain a healthy diet and weight for your skin health AND overall health.

I am frequently told that fat people suffer less from wrinkles. I'm not sure that this is true. I suppose the argument is that fat padding props up the skin to iron out wrinkles. But the fat layer is the hypodermis (the layer below the dermis where the collagen and elastin is). The centre of action for wrinkles is the dermis. Wrinkles and caused by a decrease of collagen & elastin in this layer, so I don't think that fat padding will help in this department.

5. Do moisturizers work?
Well, you need them to lubricate your skin and to prevent dehydration. Moisturizers by themselves do not prevent wrinkles or skin aging unless they contain other active ingredients or sunblock.

6. What is an affordable way of keeping wrinkles at bay?

a) Stay away from prolonged sun exposure. If outdoors, use good sunblocks of SPF 20 or higher. Wear a hat, long sleeves, pants, umbrella... cover up!

b) Start a skin rejuvenating regime of vitamin A & C creams, Kinerase and fruit acids to reverse some of the changes of aging and slow down the aging process. So far, these are the best treatments that have been proven by scientists around the world.

7. What can I do for deeper wrinkles that are refractory to creams?
Further in-office intervention is, of course, more costly, but some people may wish to take that step further in enhancing their appearance.

Procedures available include:
- Peels (chemical or microdermabrasion)
- Fillers e.g. Restylane, Nufill
- BTA injections
- Lyra skin rejuvenation
- Intense Pulsed Light skin rejuvenation

(The last 2 are examples of non-ablative skin rejuvenation)

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[meia]

wat's the best way to treat acne scars?
IPL or microdermabrasion or others?
and how much do i have to pay for such treatments?

[patrick]

meia,

IPL is not useful for Acne scar . Best is combination of microdermabrasion & Lyra laser.

Micordermabrasion per session is 120, full course is approx 1200 (10-15
sessions).

Laser starts from 200 per session, depends on size of area treated. Need 6-8 sessions.

[meia]

hmm. how does the lyra laser works.. i haven't heard of that laser before..

oh yah one more question..
i heard that needling are used to treat acne scars.. do they do it in m'sia?

[patrick]

meia, on your question "i heard that needling are used to treat acne scars.. do they do it in m'sia?"

The good doctor replied: "Yes, certainly is. and I do offer it in my clinic."

[patrick]

A reader raised the following questions:

"I have a few scars on one side of my cheek.. i can say its not a serious one..

So what kind of scar treatments do u recommend?
Do u have a smoothbeam ? i heard it treat scars very well"

and Dr Lim's respond:

There are a number of treatment choices for moderate acne scars - needle abrasion, microdermabrasion, filler injections (Nufill, Restylane), laser.

Choice depends on budget, severity of scars, etc. I don't have
smoothbeam...I use Lyra i laser.


Dr. Lim

[meia]

how much do the doctor charge for needle abrasion? and how much of improvement(%) can i achieve? is this treatment better than lyra laser?

[meme]

needle abrasion and subcision..
wat's the difference between those two:confused:
dr.lim,do u care to explain this to me??
btw, how much does it cost to do the subcision?
and the lyra laser too..the cost???
pls shed some light into this matter
thanks a bunch!!!:p

[patrick]

Needleabrasion cost is RM2000 (client buys the gadget but procedure is done
in the clinic - can be reused for as many times as desired. Procedure can be
repeated every 3 months)
Approx. 50% improvement is max expected.
Results vary between people, but I think needleabrasion gives better results
versus Lyra laser which is non-ablative.


Dr. Lim

[meia]

oh.. so how many sessions do we get? so wat happen to the tool if we achive the max results?? :confused:
and the tool rite, what kind of a tool is the dr. using? the tattoo gun or the hand tool?

btw, i thought its charged based on the sessions?

[patrick]

Dr Lim's reply to meme:

Subcision is undercutting the scar to free up fibrous tissue. Needle
abrasion is needling the skin (multiple stabs) to stimulate collagen.
Subcision is usually done before introducing a filler under the scar.


Cost depends on surface area covered. Why don't do you just come to my
clinic and show me your face so I can assess it properly?

[meia]

oh okie..
thanx for answering my questions.. really appreciate it..
but i'm kinda bz at the moment so i won't be visitin soon..
sorry to bother u

[patrick]

meia, no bother at all. We are all here to help.

You are still welcome to post at this Forum if you much prefer to.

Regds.

[exodus]

i got my previous shrink crazy

can you recommend another to me

be back in 15 minutes, got to find my mind first

[sundaygirl]

Hi Dr. Lim

Some cosmetic products are known to have hydroquinon as its ingredients. There was a commotion about this issue a couple years back.
What is hydroquinon?
Is there any side effect of using these products for a long period of time?
Are they still safe to use or should they be avoided totally even when the cosmetic companies claimed that the hydroquinon content is very mild?

Thanks in advance.

[exodus]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=hydroquinon+side+effect/v=2/TID=i021_20/SID=w/l=WS1/R=1/H=0/*-http://dermatology.cdlib.org/rxderm-archives/azelaic_acid

http://www.cordiallyyours.net/faq.htm#skinlightening

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=hydroquinon+side+effect/v=2/TID=i021_20/SID=w/l=WS1/R=2/H=0/*-http://www.medex.nl/English/Albapearl.htm

the good, the bad, and the ugly about hydroquinone

[sundaygirl]

oh, gosh! does it really kill melanin? does that mean the skin is more vulnerable and has greater risk of getting cancer?

what happen if we use the product and follow instructions eg always wearing the moisturizer & sunscreen lotion?

[exodus]

unlike a bad hair do where the worst would be that of the wait for the hair to grow back

if you ask me better you leave your color of your skin as natural looking as it can be

but if you insist it is safer to learn to apply better makeups to suit your emotion or mood when necessary only

you know what happens when the melanine is compromised you might need to put on makeups permanently

i am certainly not the expert in the field but common sense should tell you what you need to decide & do

don't just trust products or its labels

otherwise you might one day loose that pretty sundaygirl face in the mirror

[susanleesr]

Another ESSpa Exclusive
We are pleased to announce the addition of Dr. Peter Rubin M.D. as ESSpa Consulting Physician.

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[patrick]

sundaygirl,

The doc has replied to your questions:

>What is hydroquinon?

IT'S A TYROSINASE INHIBITOR I.E. SKIN LIGHTENING
AGENT

> Is there any side effect of using these products for a long period of
time?

CAN GET REBOUND EFFECT I.E. SKIN GETTING DARKER INSTEAD OF LIGHTER IF USED FOR MORE THAN 6 MONTHS CONTINUOUSLY

> Are they still safe to use or should they be avoided totally even when the
> cosmetic companies claimed that the hydroquinon content is very mild?

LOW CONCENTRATIONS <= 2% IS USUALLY QUITE SAFE. OF COURSE, THRE CAN BE IDIOSYNCRATIC ALLERGIC REACTIONS

[cskok8]

I thought doctors in Malaysia are not allowed to advertise. This thread sounds, smells and looks like advertisement to me.

[patrick]

cskok8, you are right.

Now let me explain why I persuaded Dr Lim to take part in this Forum indirectly. The purpose was to provide a channel for our lady folks who may need to raise issues of beauty, facial care etc I personally persuaded Dr Lim to help us out because none of us are able to handle such a thread. In return, we do give her a bit of mileage particularly when she can offer something special for our ladies and even the men who care about their looks.

I trust our explanation makes it more palatable now?

Rgds.

[nightowl]

patrick - I assume Dr Leng is a medical doctor with an annual practising certificate from the Mmalaysian Medical Council. By listing her services and place of practice on this forum may contravene the professional ethics and should there be any complaint to MMC she can be hauled up and reprimanded. Her services to USJ folks may be noble but this can be interpreted as advertising by a medical practitioner. She should not list her place of practice and used a pseudonym in all correspondence to answer questions instead. You may inadvertently put her in a difficult situation. As a medical practitioner she should know that such practice is prohibited. I am sure you have noticed that when doctors go on radio live, they are not to divulge their place of practice on the air for this reason.

[Cool Hand Luke]

This thread started in April 2003 and everybody has been happily posting. Now we suddenly have a problem?

:D

[patrick]

nightowl, you would have noticed that the postings are 'done' by me, not by Dr Lim. Neither has she used any pseudonym. There was never any Dr Leng, in the first place. <Not sure where you got that name> Dr Lim is Dr Lim. Ok, so I shall not divulge her details in future. Is that alright now?

[orchipalar]

Hi good Drs., MDs.,
Please pardon our ignorance, but the truth is we need an expert medical advice, n we would be forever obliged if you could offer an expert medical advice to us. My wife suffers with a bad case of asthma since her first pregnancy more than 8 years ago. Her asthmatic conditions is getting from bad to worst.

Time n time again, we worry what we post here, could be off topic, but since expert 'beauty' advice is freely available here, we thought we could get a good recommendation from you in our effort to find help for my wife's worsening asthmatic conditions.

Prior to this, we tried everything we possibly could, including sending her to a local large private hospital on a regular basis to seek treatment, but til such time we realized that we could only get treatment to control her asthma conditions rather than finding a good cure for it. That was about 5 years ago. We stopped because the non-effective treatments from the hospital's specialist at the time, was costing us a bigger hole in our pockets.

We even tried traditional chinese herbal medicines, also tried out traditional recommendation of eating croc meat, which we're told by elders that would be a promising cure for asthma.

However, nothing seems to work for her. Please help, we believe surely there should be a capable n kind Dr. or an Md., who could offer us a better n effective remedial suggestions.

IF possible, kindly PM or email us on what we should or should not do, n we would be eternally indebted to you for your kind medical advices or sincere recommendations.:(

Finally, please understand n forgive us, if my wife n me, might dislike or would infact be afraid to receive unsolicitated mails or messages from others, especially when we do not want to be unnecessarily disturbed by undesirable offers. Well intended advice n assistance is gratefully welcome though.

Thanking you in advance.:(

[patrick]

Ok "orchipalar"...hang on. I'll try to check it out and see if I can find any assistance for you.

Regards.

[orchipalar]

Hi Patrick:) - You're so very kind hearted, we're both appreciative of your effort already. Despite the Feng Shui improvement of changing the bed's position, me wife still find it difficult to sleep whenever the asthma hits her.

Me wife's breathing would be wheezy n she caughs so bad, until the caughing wakes up the kids.:(

Also after the asthmatic attacks, me wife would wake up with a bigger MMigrane, than Cool Hand Luke's one.:D

As I normally sleep like a dead pig:D , it doesn't affect me much, but the kids' got to wake up early for school though.:(

Nevertheless, TQ Patrick.

[kwchang]

If this "asthma" attack happens only at night and in the bedroom, I suspect something is triggering the attack.

Some people are allergic to dust (and dust mites). another possibility is the air-conditioning. Try cleaning the air-filter screen and see if it works. I have a friend who have this same complaint and he uses an old window unit aircond. My recommendation was for him to change it to a new one. He hasn't, so I don't know if my suspicion is correct.

My point is, if medicines don't help and FungShui isn't any help either, we got to check the surroundings. Go through an elimination process. Firstly, remove the variable of the room itself - ask your wife to sleep in another room (with a different and fresh set of bedding and pillows) for a change and see if she still coughs. Try sleeping without the aircond.

[orchipalar]

Hi KWChang:) - You're so kind, that probably is the best suggestion that we have got so far, which we're hoping already that this would certainly be better of, rather than visiting another unfamiliar specialist doc, that surely is going to burn bigger holes in our pockets.:)

The airconds is new, now that we think about it, we have not got it washed for some time now.:( Makes me wonder why I am such a lousy in biz of aircond service, forgot to clean our own units.:D

The bedsheet n pillow covers are new though.;)

Thank you KWChang.

[patrick]

orchipalar, chang may have a point there. Also, check under the bed and clean/mop it thoroughly because that part of the floor is normally laden with dust.

Also, I have spoken to a friend by the name of Dr Rajen. He is not a medical doctor but he hold a doctorate in holistic medicine and writes for Star very often. I mentioned to him your problem and he suggested you call and talk to his secretary Jasmin at 03 79652715. Tell her Dr Rajen asked you to call. And let's take it from there!

All the Best!

[orchipalar]

Hi goodneighbour Patrick:) - Thank you again, we already like the idea from KWChang, now this one no less, especially when we see no additional unnecessary appearance of alphabets behind the good doctor's name.:)

By Monday or soonest possible, we would give it a shot - rest assure this is not 'overloaded' - still feeling the pains of being smacked by the dejected political supporter.:(

We're sure the good doctor might want to or might be allowed in this case to speak freely about the alternative holistic medicine that we haven't been hearing about, instead of pharmaceutical treatments, in this forum topic, as we see no harm for anyone to offer free medical guidance or advice to our community.:)

IF it is ok with the other members of the forum of course, other than of course with the other dejected medical expert who is still watching n treating us like its supper, from a tree, somewhere.:D

We figure me wife has got too much chemical already in her system. Forgot to mentioned though, her conditions is worsen or hard to be cured, due to the fact that she comes in constant contact with chemicals due to her biz, no matter how much she tries to avoid the contacts, the chemical fumes get into her system.:(

Anyway, we would definitely give the good doctor a shot:) Not unless the good doctor would ask of her to quit her biz that is:D

[patrick]

Some one wrote in asking about hair loss. Below is Dr Lim's response.

Those requiring more details can email me for onforwarding to Dr Lim - Patrick


Hair loss can create a lot of anxiety for both young and old. Frequently one's self-confidence or self-esteem depends very much on one's crowning glory. True hair loss is defined as losing more than the daily shed of 100 hairs.

There are many medical causes of hair loss that are remediable, so you don't have to just accept it as "part of old age".
Some of the more common causes of hair loss are androgenetic alopecia, thyroid disease, nutritional deficiency, infections, hormone imbalance & drugs. These causes can be excluded by a thorough history & doing some blood tests, if warranted.

There are many therapy options, beyond that of regaine lotion.

My therapeutic approach depends on the cause of hair loss found.
Importantly, dietary deficiencies have to be addressed with vitamin supplements. Avoidance of physical trauma such as perms, dyes, straighteners, chemical treatments is advisable.
Topical lotions which stimulate hair growth are available. If hormone imbalances are the cause, then oral medications are available.

In-office treatments involves treating with a new laser which stimulates thicker, denser (and blacker!) hair growth. And perhaps application of vitamins after the treatment. This approach has a 90% response rate.

Regards,

Dr. Lim Wye Leng

[lizsimone]

Have been reading that microdermabrasion is done at your clinic. I have red marks on my face not ice-pick ones but they don't seem to fade. I read from previous posting that it cost 120 per session and 1200 for a series of treatments. Do you charge per session basis or a lump sum for lets say a series of treatments? I enquired from a few beauty centres and they say their treatments come in packages ranging from 2000 to 5000. I somehow feel all these beauty centres just want you to commit to their treatment plan. Could you see visible improvement after 1 to 2 treatments?

[patrick]

Below is the good Doc's reply to lizsimone:

> Acne Scarring
> Have been reading that microdermabrasion is done at your clinic. I have
red
> marks on my face not ice-pick ones but they don't seem to fade. I read
from
> previous posting that it cost 120 per session and 1200 for a series of
> treatments. Do you charge per session basis or a lump sum for lets say a
> series of treatments?
I charge per session basis as well as package prices for which I give a
discount. i.e. 120 per session, or 600 for 6 sessions.

I enquired from a few beauty centres and they say
> their treatments come in packages ranging from 2000 to 5000. I somehow
feel
> all these beauty centres just want you to commit to their treatment plan.
> Could you see visible improvement after 1 to 2 treatments?
You can actually see improvement with every session but of course it is not
dramatic - also depends on how deep you go with each treatment. For red
marks, generally at least 10 sessions are required for good improvement.

Happy to answer further questions.

Regards,
Dr. Lim

[lizsimone]

Thanks for the speedy reply. So should I call and make an appointment or should I just walk-in for a consultation. By the way, you sell Neostrata products in your clinic...what is the best moisturizer for acne-prone skin? In regards to the microdermabrasion, what are the intervals like for the sessions i.e. how long per session and how long apart from one treatment to the next..Thanks

[patrick]

Recently, orchipalar raised the problem of asthma. And the kind Dr Lim has taken the initiative to contribute something here, albeit a bit late.


Anyway, chanced upon asthma problem...in your forum. Here's my
unsolicited input:

Asthma is a hypersensitive response to allergens in the environment so one
can only control 2 factors:
1. Dampen the hypersensitive immune response and
2. Eliminate/avoid triggers in th environment. Iin the case of asthma, they
would be aeroallergens.

If one does not want to be "pumped full of drugs", then eliminating
triggers becomes important. But one should not forget that a severe
asthma attack can kill so don't drop the puffers just yet.

Re: controlling your environment - can't control KL environment but one can
control the home environs:
1. Get rid of all carpets, rugs, soft toys (if kids can't part with them,
put soft toy in plastic bag in freezer for 24/24 - will kill the mites),
pets.
2. Vacuum house with one of those new fangled water-based vacuum cleaners I
think OSIM sells them, also other brands, do own research.
3. Mop everyday.
4. Get good quality air filter for bedroom at least (8 hours a day spent
here)
5. There is a thing called Z-net - a bedsheet impregnated with house dust
mite-killing chemicals - it helps.
6. Last resort - shift out of the city.

One should do some research on PROBIOTICS. I believe it helps asthma.
(Try medscape.com) Don't know which brand is reliable though - lots of
overpriced stuff out there.

Last but not least, can do allergy testing but it costs a bomb - don't have
to enrich doctors for this, can visit the laboratory directly. I thnk it
costs upwards of RM600. Cost effective only if one is trying to identify
non-airborne allergens or if one can afford to change one's environment.

<Thks doc! - Patrick>

[patrick]

Just as a matter of sequencing, be informed there will be no follow up response to lizsimone's last posting as the person has personally visited the good doctor for consultation.

I trust the doc has been helpful to you lizsimone, otherwise keep me/us informed.

Rgds.

[mkhooi]

hello, I read about the post about microdermabrasion done by Dr Lim. I am interested to know where Dr Lim clinic is, can someone provide me with her address and contact number.


thank you

[patrick]

mkhooi, I am sorry but am unable to send you the requested details as you dont have an email address. Can you please provide me your email address by private mail. I am sorry I cant post the details you requested here due to ethics.

Rgds.

[suryana]

Hello,
I am interested about scars treatment, since I have a few (not very deep) scars on my legs that I would like to get rid of, and also the dark skin on my knees. What are the treatments suitable for my problems and how much would they cost?

I would appreciate it if you could email me the location and contact number of Dr. Lim's clinic. Thanks!

- Sury

[speez]

Hi Patrick,

Can you let me know how to make an appoitment with Dr. Lim to discuss further for the laser treatment.

Can I have their contacts?

[patrick]

Private mails have been sent out to both speez and suryana.

Rgs.

[sheann]

Hi..I am new here. I am really interested to get rid of the spider veins in my legs.

Can I please get Dr Lim's location and phone number (if possible?) Plus, how much does it cost for the surgery per treatment?

What are the treatments used, sclerotherapy, Electrodesiccation, laser or etc??

I would definitely want a treatment that does not leave scars.. my case is pretty minor, except that it really bothers me.

Thank you.

[patrick]

Sheann, the doc says

"Methods used to remove the spider veins depends on the diameter of the vessel. All modalities mentioned are used.
Perhaps the person who posed the question can contact me by email."

Sounds a bit beyond me. Perhaps you would like to contact the doc by email or phone for further details? Trust you have received my private mail. All the Best and Regards.

[suryana]

Hello Patrick,
I'm sorry, but I havent received the info that you've emailed me sometime back. Can you please resend it to this email addy : deb_brunette@hotmail.com ? Thanks a lot! I'm really looking forward to your email, since I wanted to treat the dark skin and scars on my leg as soon as possible.


Thanks in advance,
Suryana

[Cindy Kee]

Can a beautiful woman be made even more beautiful? Hi, Patrick, that is a tongue-in-cheek comment and said in jest with a little element of concern and not meant to be sarcastic.

:)

[jeya]

What is Beauty?
Skin Deep or Deeper?
"Ask a toad what is beauty ... He will answer that it is a female with two great round eyes coming out of her little head, a large flat mouth, a yellow belly, and a brown back." - Voltaire

Have a good day ladies dont worry be happy!!:cool:

[boey]

"Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder"

[patrick]

Sorry I have not responded earlier...just got back from my hols.

suryana, I am sorry but I dont seem to be able to find a copy of the mail sent to you. So...I have to forward your mail to the doc again for a response. Will get back to you asap.

Cindy Kee, if the avatar is of yourself...I can understand your comment. But I think that statement should be of no relevance to you at this point in time. You may take that as a compliment!! As to your remark "not meant to be sarcastic".... I didnt even realize it could sound like one!! Hee hee!

Regards to all, stay Healthy and be Happy!

[patrick]

Doc's response to suryana:

"Probably combination of microdermabrasion and peeling creams would be
helpful . Cost depends on size of area treated. Probably abt 100 per
session. Number of sessions required varies depending on scars .6 up to 20"

[aston]

Dear Patrick,

1. With reference to Dr Lim's 2nd e-newsletter posted on 10-07-2003, can you please share with me if there is any customer's feedback on the effectiveness of VC SHEEP PLACENTA EXTRACT recommended therein?

2. Please email your clinic addr.

Thanks!

[aston]

Dear Patrick,

One more question.... : )

I have a "small flesh dot" recently developed on my right cheek! The texture of this "small flash dot" is identical to those corns (not food) usually developed on our toes/soles though the dot size is smaller. I am worry that it will grow bigger & bigger. May I know what it is and is there any treatment you would recommend?

Rgds,
aston

[patrick]

aston, I trust you have received my pm? Here's the doc's respond to your questions:


MY PATIENTS WO HAVE TRIED VC PLACENTA EXTRACT GIVE VARIOUS REPORTS. SOME SAY
THAT TIGIVES THEM MORE ENERGY AND THEY FALL SICK LESS EASILY. SOME REPORT
BETTER SKIN TEXTURE. SOME REPORT NO EFFECTS.

> One more question.... : )
>
> I have a "small flesh dot" recently developed on my right cheek! The
> texture .........>

SORRY, I DON'T DIAGNOSE SOMETHING VIA EMAIL. IT COULD BE ANYTHING - PLEASE SEE YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT IT.

[aston]

Hi Patrick,

Yes. I have received your PM. Thanks!

Ok, I will visit a doctor.

Regards,
aston

[jeya]

Hi KW Chang
I assume Patrick is a MD, then I would suggest we have a section just for Doctors Q&A . Here we could post our medical problems and a doctor in our forum would provide us with advise and remedies. It would be a great help to us, forumers.

.Just my views. What do others thing of this suggestion?

Cheers

[kwchang]

Patrick is NOT a doctor.

However, it will be a bit difficult to have a doctor online because we don't have a volunteer and the MMA has a ruling that doctors are not allowed to advertise their services. So a doctor online would be threading a thin line on this ruling.

[jeya]

Thanks KW Chang, for your explantion and reminding us again the rules of the forum.

Cheers

[kwchang]

Please do not misunderstand - it is not our Forum Rules. The MMA is the Malaysian Medical Association.

If you were to read the MMA website article at http://www.mma.org.my/current_topic/advertise.htm you will find doctors are bound by the 'Code of Ethics' of the MMA and the 'Code of Professional Conduct' of the MMC.

However, the above article deals with allowing doctors to advertise their services in line with the encouragement for health tourism. It adds "The MMA has supported the idea of dissemination of basic information. It should be done in good taste without over-publicising a doctor's ability. Basic information such as name, qualifications, specialty, place of practice and even the number of years of experience may be allowed"

So I guess if a doctor volunteers to give online advice, it may be allowed - but without violating our own Forum rules about advertisements.

[jeya]

Thanks for clarifying your earlier posting. I wish to let you know that I did not misunderstand.

I know what MMA stands for and its code of ethics.
My proposal was for a volunteer doctor to provide us answers to medical problems other than" beauty and you" in a different section and under a different heading.

Naturally of course conducting himself within the ethics of the MMA and the Forum.

[Shawn]

An excellent and a noble suggestion, Jeya. Many of our worries are medical related.
With their help some of the problems can be solved without going to clinics and hospitals....nowdays doctors in clinics and private hospitals behave like buisnessmen.

Is there a MD in this forum who would like to volunteer and answer our medical problems? The moderator could open a section soley for this purpose.:

[cskok8]

It is very difficult to give medical advice over the net especially those of an individual nature. However general questions are OK. The most difficult questions are: " I have xxx symptoms, what could it be?". I am an orthopaedic surgeon and I could give some advice on bone and joint problems.

[jeya]

Hi, Dr. CS Kok,
Thanks for volunteering your services on problems relating to orthopaedic.
I actually do have some problems regarding ankle joints.

Maybe I could start a fresh tread on Drs. Answers if that is ageeable with you.

Thanks

[kwchang]

Thank you for suggesting that, Jeya. I am preempting you by starting a new thread for this purpose. Please refer to http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?threadid=5376

Let us stick to one thread and see how it goes.

[patrick]

A contribution from our panel doctor:

Dear folks,

In this issue. I will be dealing with 4 topics of current
interest:

1. Weight loss
2. Radiofrequency skin rejuvenation
3. Vitamin C supplementation
4. Heliocare - the first of its kind, oral sun protection

1. Weight Loss
It's that time of the year again when we overindulge and the
scales show yet another 5-10 % increase in body weight. It's
called creeping obesity.
Most attribute it to "old age" and blame it on a slowing
metabolism but the truth is simpler.... we eat too much and
lead sedentary lifestyles. I'm not going to write another essay
except to point you all to this very informative website which
does not try to sell you any products. Happy reading!

http://www.weightlossadviser.com/index.html

2. Non-ablative Radiofrequency (NARF) Skin Firmng & Lifting
NARF is the latest technology that is showing visible
gratifying results for skin firming and lifting.
Radiofrequency waves are used to 1) tighten collagen under the
skin leading to immediate visible skin tightening and
lifting and 2) stimulate new collagen growth which leads to
long term(6-12 months) skin firming and lifting.
There is absolutely no down time and relatively pain-free.
One course of treatment is 6 sessions every 2 weeks apart.

3. Vitamin C supplementation
Systemic Vitamin supplementation is currently in vogue for
making the skin fairer, firming it up and for generally
improving the immune system.
Please get proper medical advice before having it administered
as it is not something that everyone can take. Please be
cautious about non-medical personnel who are administering
this stuff and shop around for the best price.

4. Heliocare Oral
Heliocare Oral is the first oral sun protectant with
clinically proven ability to prevent free radicals, premature
aging and hyperpigmentation caused by harmful UV rays. The
main ingredient is an extract of the plant Polypodium
leucotomos, researched and developed at Harvard Medical
School.
It has been used safely in the market for over 20 years in
Europe with no reported side-effects. Heliocare Oral is the
first line of defense against sun-damage and sunblock creams
should be used to complement it.


Thankyou for your attention and please don't hesistate to contact me if your have further questions.

Regards,
Dr. Lim

[RolyPoly]

Is there any treatment suitable for enlarged facial pores?

[fRaNkY]

Any of you guys watch "Extreme Makeover" ?
The show really tells you what is out there.

[orchipalar]

Err...extreme makeovers?...whoa..IF ever possible here...can be good for Orchi also...ahem...gotten sicked n tired of the same old lookalike charles bronson already...err...might be nice to wannabe brat pit instead...err or...perhaps clint eastwood also can lar! :cool:

[patrick]

Dr Lim's reply to RolyPoly's question "Is there any treatment suitable for enlarged facial pores?" is...

"Yes, microdermabrasion, radiofrequency skin tightening, mesotherapy."

Trust that answers your question RolyPoly?

Rgds.

[patrick]

unknownnames wrote to me with the following query:

"Face
my face leaving alot red mark after acne gone, and make my pretty ugly. nowadays wat is best treatment to make the red mark fade.
Forward Message "

For the benefot of other readers, I'd like to post Dr Lim's reply here:

"Cheap way is gradual peeling (peeling creams, micordermabrasion). Expensive way is pulsed dye laser - don't think there is one in M'sia, try S'pore.."

And Dr Lim wishes all subscribers a Very Happy New Year.

Rgds.

[msbee]

hi patrick,

just joined today. could i get the name & address of Dr. Lim's clinic? am interested to know more about the vitamin c supplementation and microdermabrasion. thanks

cheers
:)

[patrick]

OK msbee, I shall forward you the contact under private email.

[msbee]

thanks patrick.

[Joe Gomez]

hi patrick,

just joined today. could i get the name & address of Dr. Lim's clinic? am interested to know more about the vitamin c supplementation and microdermabrasion. thanks

cheers
:)

Patrick ..... Please do same for me thks.

[patrick]

Contact for Dr Lim already forwarded to you. Plse check your email.

All the Best and Regards.

[Joe Gomez]

Patrick ..... Please do same for me thks.

Thks Patrick .... got it.

[patrick]

Dr Lim is having a special pre CNY special promotions. Below is a brief description of the promotions. Anyone interested, please send pm to the writer for further details or contact the Dr directly for more details.

Rgds.

1.Mesolift
Infuse the skin with hyal & potent vitamins & anti-oxidants to plump up dull, loose skin. A series of 3 treatments 10 days apart is needed for the initial treatment. Subsequent sessions are 3-6 months apart fo rmaintenance.

2. Diamond dermabrasion + oxyfusion + transdermal electroporation of collagen & vitamin C
Get rid of dull dead skin, clean out pores & revitalize it with collagen & Vitamin C.

3. Filler - Matridur
Fill up deep wrinkles, hollow cheekbones or plump up thin lips with this very safe hyaluronic acid filler .

4. Radiofrequency Skin Rejuvenation
Lift & firm up skin on face, neck, arms, tummy with the latest radiofrequency waves. It causes collagen contraction & stimulates new collagen to be laid down resulting in firm smooth skin.

5. Botox injections
Smooth out frown lines, forehead lines & crow's feet with Botox

6. Medlite laser
Remove pigmentation, tattoos, Naevus of Ota with this laser

7. Selected products
- Skinceuticals lip repair
- Skinceuticals eye gel
- Neostrata lip conditioner
- Neostrata bionic face serum
- Neostrata daytime protection cream
- Oxypro serum
- Retinol capsules

[ppmsp]

Hi Dr Lim,

Is your clinic in KL? I wish to see you for microdermabrasion treatments and will be in KL for 4 days.

Can you email me at pacpar@gmail.com with your contact information? Thanks!


Kev

[Jamie]

Dear Patrick,

Can you tell me how to treat recurring dog flea bites on human? My skin doctor told me that it will occur again though it has cured as the saliva of the flea will remain for some time. Your fast reply will be appreciated!

Thanks & regards,
Jay

[Virgilce]

cskok8, you are right.

Now let me explain why I persuaded Dr Lim to take part in this Forum indirectly. The purpose was to provide a channel for our lady folks who may need to raise issues of beauty, facial care etc I personally persuaded Dr Lim to help us out because none of us are able to handle such a thread. In return, we do give her a bit of mileage particularly when she can offer something special for our ladies and even the men who care about their looks.

I trust our explanation makes it more palatable now?

Rgds.

Think better to be careful.........try not to use her name in this forum...meanwhile, please read extracted code of ethics from MMA.

SECTION VI : ADVERTISING AND CANVASSING
Modern life brings the doctor into contact with the general public in numerous ways, both
directly and indirectly, and raises for him problems of conduct unknown to his
predecessors. The general public interest in medical knowledge, the dissemination of
medical information through radio and television, print, electronic media and press
interview, all demand the exercise of the utmost caution by the doctor, whose
professional standards condemn self-advertisement and publicity.
Indirect Methods of Advertising
Ultimate responsibility in all these matters rests with the individual concerned, but
practitioners finding themselves in any difficulty in deciding upon their course of action
or in doubt as to the safeguards necessary are advised to seek guidance from the
Secretary of the Association.
1. Advertising and Canvassing : The practices by a registered medical practitioner
(i) Of advertising whether directly or indirectly for the purpose of obtaining patients
or promoting his own professional advantage; or, for any such purpose, of
procuring or sanctioning, or acquiescing in, the publication of notices
commending or directing attention to the practitioner's professional skill,
knowledge, services or qualifications, or deprecating those of others; or of being
associated with, or employed by those who procure or sanction such advertising
or publication; and
(ii) Of canvassing or employing any agent or canvasser or distributing visiting cards
for the purpose of obtaining patients; or of sanctioning, or of being associated
with or employed by those who sanction, such employment, are discreditable to
the medical profession and are contrary to the public's interest.
2. Definition of Advertising : The word "advertising" in connection with the medical
profession must be taken in its broadest sense to include all those ways by which a
person is made publicly known, either by himself or by others without objection on
his part, in a manner which can fairly be regarded as for the purpose of obtaining
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patients or promoting his own professional advantage, or as appearing to be for
these purposes.
3. Accepted Customs : It is generally accepted by the profession that certain customs
are so universally practiced that it cannot be said that they are for the person's own
advantage, as for instance, a doorplate with the simple announcement of the
doctor's name and qualifications. Even this, however, may be abused by undue
particularity or elaboration.
4. Public Health Medical Officers : Publicity is necessary in carrying out the duties of
medical officers of health and other medical men who hold posts in the public health
or other public services. Provided that this is not used for the individual's
advancement in his profession, this may be rightly allowed.
5. Holding of Public Office : It is the recognized duty of a medical man to take his share
as a citizen in public life and to hold public office should he so desires, but it is
essential that the holding of public office is not used as a means of advertising
himself as a doctor or his professional services.
6. Statement : It is conceded that practitioners may properly place their views on
medical subjects before the public when they can do so with authority. In so doing, it
behoves each one to avoid methods which could be fairly regarded as for the
purpose of obtaining patients or otherwise promoting his own professional
advantage. It should also be remembered that there are many things innocent in
themselves, which may, by the manner or frequency of their doing, gravely
contravene the principles that medical practitioners should not advertise.
Discussions in the lay press on controversial points of medical science and
treatment should be avoided by practitioners. Such matters are more appropriate to
medical journals and for discussion in professional societies.

[blguy79]

Hi Dr. Lim,

May I have your full address of your clinic and do i need to make appointment earlier??

Bryan

[patrick]

Dr's respond to Jamie's question "Can you tell me how to treat recurring dog flea bites on human? My skin doctor told me that it will occur again though it has cured as the saliva of the flea will remain for some time."

Treat the pets for fleas.
Spray household with insecticide.
Anti-infalm cream on bites.

[Jamie]

Dear Patrick/Dr Lim,

Thank you very much for your reply :D . I hope my misery will end soon..... by the way, can I have Dr Lim's contacts just in case I need treatment for my flea bites if they dont get better.

Best regards,
Jamie

[Kamchatkee]

Hi,

Can Dr. Lim pls email me the details of her clinic & treatments? I'd like to know more. Fyi, i've tried this place for NALA and mda in Sri Hartamas for the last one year, the results are OK but very pricey.

rgds,
kamchatkee@yahoo.com

[natasha_yin]

During my recent trip to a beauty centre, the beauty consultant suggested that i may opted for the vitaminc c treatment which make my acne scar less visible. I do enquiry them about the laser treatment, but according to them , my case I do not need it as it only cater for those suffer the serious matter or deep scarring.
How do the vitamin c treatment will improve the acne scar? Only heard it improve skin condition.
Is only laser applicable for serious condition?

Please advice. Thanks

[patrick]

natasha yin, here's the doctor's reply to your posting:

"Re: acne scarring. I don't know what type of scarring Natasha has i.e. deep ice-pick type, saucer-shaped ones or just discolouration on skin due to acne post- inflammatory pigmentation. Her intuition is right, Vit C does not help acne scarring. Vit C is good for repairing sun-damage i.e. wrinkles, sun-induced pigmentation. Vit C cannot destroy fibrous tissue that is causing indented scarring.

Acne scarring can be improved by various other methods - dermabrasion, laser, RF, etc"

Thanks doc! Trust the above satisfy your questions, Natasha?

Rgds.

[salago]

Hello Dr Lim,

I'd like to enquire about this Brava Enhancement system.

How much do you charge for it?

What is results of this system? Is it worth spending the money?
Is the result long lasting?
How often do I need to follow up at your clinic or I just need to do the system at home?

Thank you for your time.

Elaine

[natasha_yin]

Thanks so much on the info. Well, can i have the pricing quotation on the available treatment as suggested? As well the address of the clinic please?

[patrick]

Salago.

The good doc says

"Brava - system has a lot of design problems - not worth spending on it unless they come up with a new design."

[salago]

Hello Patrick,

Thank you for your information.

I found one independant website giving negative input of the brava system as well.
http://home.comcast.net/~drmomentum/bravargh/
Ladies, read this before you make a decision.
Quotation from the use website range from US 999 to USD2500.

Btw, what is the best solution for breast size increase.
Is there really a solution to increase the breast size apart from surgery?

I've been trying out various method, pills, creams, exercise, pumps, massage bra but with no results. Still AA in size.
Anyone has tried something that have produced real promising result?

Thanks for your help.

[patrick]

Natasha,
As requested, the prices for acne scar precedures are as below. The doctor's contact had been pm to you privately. Trust you have received that.

Patrick

Microdermabrasion - 120 per session or 600 for 6.
Radiofrequency - 1000 for 3.
Chemical recon of scar -150 per session. or 750 for 6.

Number of sessions required depends on severity of scar.

[patrick]

To salago and all other ladies, doc respond below may be of interest to you:

Apart from surgery, here are my comments on the various methods available:

1. pills - hormone pills do work but for only as long as you take them. Not advisable because of side-effects.
2. creams - don't work, con job. they only tighten the skin. (Hormone creams are as above)
3. Exercise doesn't increase breast size, exercising the pectoral muscles is good for posture and lifting only.
4. Massage bra - con job.
5. Pumps - Brava does work (infact very wellbut design problems easily broken smartbox, etc. Buy it when they come up with new design.
6. Injections - silicon (done by some beauticians & unlicensed practitioners) - looks good initially but soon after get infection, fibrosis, scarring. Bad idea.
- other stuff they inject - risk of allergic reaction that can kill you. Example recent case of air stewardess who died in the ENT specialist's clinic - she had some unknown substance injected into her breasts - this is what killed her not the nose job.

[Bast]

Are the prices of the listed procedures only for acne scar treatment? Of particular interest to me in the Radio Frequency treatment which I understand can also be used for skin tigthtening of aged complexion. It seems also that at times only 1 session is enough to see results. Would the good Dr Lim still charges for 3 seesions at $1000 or by per session, and how much roughly? Also, how many shots are fired per session? Is the procedure for the whole face or just segments like top half, bottom half or neck? Thanks!

[patrick]

Bast, the reply to your question:

The Radiofrequency you are describing is the Thermage machine called Thermacool - you're looking at paying RM10,000 per session of whole face treatment. Not available here yet but this is what they are charging in S'pore. I have the RF 300 unit which is much cheaper and yes, can be used for skin tightening.
There are no "shots" fired. Price can vary according to surface area.

[Jenny Yi]

Hi I am a new member. Could you email me the name of clinic, phone#, . and address of Dr LIM?

Also, I like to know is Imedeen /Estime are really effective to treat wrinkles?
And vit C injection, is it done to your face? How much per treatment (vit C)?

Somewhere in this forum, I came across 'facial exercise'. How do you do this? Or is there a portable machine that you can buy for this?

TQ

[patrick]

Jenny, here's the doc's respond to your posting. As for the contact, I had already pm you. You should have got it by now.

Rgds,
Patrick


"Imedeen/Estime is good for skin hydration therefore is good for superficial fine lines.
Vit C injection can be done into the vein (going to whole body) or can be injected onto the face via mesotherapy but usually a cocktail of vitamins is used rather than just Vit C alone - better effect. For IV cost is RM80 per time. For mesotherapy cost varies according to what drugs are used - best combo costs 680 per session.
Facial exercise - there is a video/book out there on the net abt this stuff."

[cherry]

I would like to have Dr. Lim's clinic address too and the contact number. I have been looking for a solution to my acne scarring. Please help....

[patrick]

Cherry, I have sent you Dr Lim's contact. All the Best and pm me if you need further assistance.

Rgds.

[cherry]

Thank you so much, Patrick. I'm really happy to have the contact number I think the pricing is very reasonable compared to the one in Desa Sri Hartamas that quoted me 3 NALA & 6 Microdermabasion for RM5060 before discount and RM3643 after discount (30%) which is still pricey for me :eek:

[blguy79]

hi cherry, what type of the scarring u have???

[cherry]

Bl,

I have acne scar which you can see the edges that is visibe on the cheek... that why they ask me to go to the NALA to soften the edges.

[patrick]

Folks, whatever you do. When it comes to medical stuff, as far as possible, always get a second opinion. Or better still, a third one. Always better be safe than sorry.

All the Best.

[Jenny Yi]

Hi Patrick. TQ. I should have replied directly to this buletin. Instead it went to your private email. Sure you can publish Dr Lim's reply.
I have one more question. I have a tendency to develop keloid. Is it safe for me to undergo mesotherapy?
thanks

[patrick]

A question was posed earlier which I am now posting on this Forum for the benefit of other readers:

"I have more questions. One, how many times do I need to do mesotherapy? I have eye bags and I also have milia on my cheeks. ANy help?.."

to which the doctor replied:

"Mesotherapy - at least 3 sessions depending on which area.
Milia - easily removed with electrosurgery. Eyebags - if bad, plastic surgery. If not, RF, mesotherapy can improve appearance."

[patrick]

Jenny, the doc's respond to your question.

"Mesotherapy multiprick technique is safe with keloids."

Trust that helps?

[Jenny Yi]

TQ Patrick.
I have been doing some reading and am now getting confused. I would like to ask more questions to Dr Lim. I am interested in one of the three treatments below. What is the difference between BTA dermalift, Botox injection and mesotherapy? Which is better? How long each effects last? What about the cost? I of course want the best for me and I am in my mid forties. I have already started saving some of my pay so that I can get to see you.
Thanks

[patrick]

From Doc to Jenny:

Botox injection works the best - instant result, lasts apprx 4 months. Cost
from rm300 per area. Only for upper face dynamic wrinkles (i.e wrinkles
that appear when you're moving face) though. BTA dermalift & mesolift firms
up face. Cost rm2000 per 3 sessions for both. Duration 4-6 months.

[WEllRie]

Hi, i just joined today. May i know Dr. Lim's Clinic address and phone number? My acne problem getting serious.. plz help

[patrick]

Have posted her contact to you by private mail. Rgds.

[snchin]

Hi, I'm new here. I really like this thread. I have one question here: What's the differences between AHA peeling and Neostrata peel? Do they really help on acne problem?
Thanks!

[patrick]

snchin, the doc's reply to your question:

It's the same thing. Neostrata is just one of the brands.
Yes, it does help mild to moderate acne. For more severe cases, oral
medication is needed.

[Julie Wong]

Hi, can u plse email me Dr Lim's contact no? My email address is juliewongsl@yahoo.co.uk.

Thanks.

[Julie Wong]

Hi,

I understand that u mentioned that not so severe cases of eyebags may be removed via mesotherapy. Do let me know the minimum sessions , cost per session and recuperation period that is involved.

I guess I really need to contact Dr Lim urgently.

Regards
Julie

[patrick]

The Doc says "Min sessions - weekly for 4 times, then monthly maintenance. Cost per session 150 each. Recuperation time - nil unless there is some minimal pinpoint bruising which disappears in abt 3 days."

Trust that answers your question Julie? Rgds.

[cn1]

patrick,

Do you know any other dermatologists-- apart from Dr.Lim-- who offer needle-abrasion treatments? I understand that Dr. Lim's patients are required to buy the RM 2,000 gadget; but being a student, that is out of my budget.

Thank you.

[kwchang]

This is not my area of knowledge but for all medical services where an appliance is exposed to body fliuds (blood included), the standard practice is to either destroy the appliance after use or let the patient keep it (if reuseable) for future use by the same patient.

This is because of the danger of reusing the device for another patient. For example, doctors NEVER reuse needles because it can spread diseases like AIDS. Hence it is disposed - so the patient must pay for it.

I would never go to a practitioner who cleans and reuses needles !! Would you?

[cn1]

Thanks for your concern kwchang. Of course I wouldn't want to use re-used needles.

I just learned from acne.org that some practitioners use disposable lancets. This seems to be more affordable for the patients.

Anyway, I think I'll just save up to buy the gadget.

[patrick]

cn1, I assume you have already spoken to Dr Lim? Anyway, I could give you another Dermatologist's contact by private mail. You could check with the other doctor and get a second opinion. would that be ok?

Rgds.

[ryws]

I would like to have Dr. Lim's clinic address too and the contact number. I have been looking for a solution to improve my acne scarring.

[patrick]

You are all cordially invited to a public forum. Details as follows:

DATE: Thursday April 21, 2005.

Time: 2.30pm - 4.30pm

TITLE: "Latest Techniques in Skin Rejuvenation & Body Contouring".

TOPICS:

•multiprick technique of mesolift
•face reshaping using combined BTA & Mesotherapy
•flattening of deep wrinkles
•calf reshaping
•refining pores & scars
•dissolving fats & total body contouring

Free consultation and a goodie bag for all attending.

Venue: Plaza Mont’ Kiara
D-03-01, Block D Level 3,
Jalan Kiara, Mont’ Kiara,
Kuala Lumpur
Date : 21st April, 2005

Speaker : Dr Lim Wye Leng,
Cosmetic Physician

For reservation: Call Ms Kristine Wong 03-77893353
before 19 April, 2005

[layman]

is dr. lim a qualified dermatologist?

my doctor's friends expressed scepticism about her qualifications (she was wondering which university in UK has a course in cosmetic dermatology?)

according to her you need to have a post graduate qualification something from the royal colleges in australia or uk and to be certified as a specialist in the malaysian specialist registers.

perhaps patrick can shed some light on this

[jesslpl]

Hi, i just joined today. May i know Dr. Lim's Clinic address and phone number? My acne problem getting serious.. plz help
Hi,

Your acne problem getting serious????

Recently, I was recommended by a friend to a proven skin treatment products from USA that are Great Help on acne, eye bag, wrinkles or even pigmentation problems.

Experience it yourself on a free trial treatment.

If u require further info, kindly let me know.

My email address is: jesslpl@usj.com.my (Ms Lim).

Thanks.

[sooyen]

Hi Patrick,

Is the place in Plaza Mont Kiara stated for the public forum, the address of Dr.Lim's clinic?

May I know how much does Dr Lim charge for birthmark removal laser treatment (on the forehead and bridge of nose)? The mark is a not too dark, coffee-and-cream type, approximately 1 inch wide, 2-3 inch long. How many sessions will I need to attend?

Thanks very much for your info!

[patrick]

In response to layman.

First, allow me to say that we have never presented our doctor on this Forum as a dermatologist, and I believe neither has she ever claim to be one.

In the doc's own words, she is a "cosmetic physician".

"I have been doing cosmetic related treatment/ procedures since 1998, full time since 2000 (some dermatological , some endocrinological (weight loss) and some including breast enhancement! (Brava)

My qualifications is public knowledge and stand as follows:

1. MBBS (Uni of Melb, Aust)
2. Dip Prac Derm (Uni of Wales, UK)
3. Dip Cosmetic Science (Society of Cosmetic Scientists, UK) -
This is not a "medical degree" - it is the basic degree that
cosmetic chemists (the guys who formulate all the cosmetics
in the market place) have to gain entry into the workforce
of cosmetic R&D labs.

Australia has a society of cosmetic physicians and a society of cosmetic surgeons. France has a course in cosmetic dermatology, just to name one. I can assure you that "cosmetic medicine" doesn't have a "royal" recognition but it certainly doesn't stop a lot of doctors (not just dermatologists and plastic surgeons, gynecologists, opthalmologists, cardiologists, psychiatrists too!) and beauticians from practising "cosmetic medicine" simply because it is lucrative and in high demand.

The lines between cosmetology and medicine are blurred these days and I don't think anyone should have disdain for the highly trained aesthetician who performs low concentration chemical peels or microdermabrasion AS LONG AS THEY ARE PROPERLY TRAINED. They are doing so in US.

Nor should anyone have disdain for any doctor with an entrepreneurial spirit who chooses to practise cosmetic medicine (which involves handling lasers, Botox, etc, etc) AS LONG AS THEY ARE PROPERLY TRAINED.

Where did I get training for such procedures? Just like all other doctors, I attended courses and conferences, both local and overseas. Mostly paid for out of my own pocket and some paid for by drug companies.

I trust the above helps clear the air."

And I would like to add this for the record. When we first spoke to this doctor to assist on this Forum, she kindly agreed as a service to the E-community without hesitation. There was never any request or demand, subtly or otherwise, for publicity or channeling of business to her clinic. This doctor has a thriving business and has more than enough to handle besides being a mother. I would like this doctor on our panel to know how much this website and the community here appreciates the 'service' she has provided so generously. Thanks doc and we hope you will continue to 'stay' with us.

[patrick]

I would like to post here some queries sent direct to us by email for the benefit of other readers:

"I have some questions pertaining this life cell therapy?

Do u know of ALL the brands of "life cell therapy" that are available in
Msia? Is there any reputable hospital or clinics that have cerfication to
administer this life cell? Which one would u recommend? "

And our doctor's reply:

I don't know ALL the brands of life cell/placenta therapy because most of them are not legally registered with the Ministry of Health.
Some ORAL brands are registered with Ministry of Health, but NOT THE INJECTABLE versions. I think there are abt 3 brands of oral ones which are legally registered. You can check it on the National Pharmaceutical Control Bureau website (www.bpfk.gov.my) abt which drugs are legally registered.
There is no hospital or clinic in Malaysia certified to administer life cell injections.

This life cell therapy is famously practised in Clinic La Prairie (no relation to the cosmetic) in Switzerland. It is actually a full-fledged hospital which provides anti-aging therapies which include life cell therapy. The costs are abt RM40,000 for a week' s stay in the hospital where they give you first class health checkups and anti-aging therapies. A lot of international celebrities and rich politicians go there for annual rejuvenation. This is the only hospital I would recommend.

If you can't afford it, you can buy life cell injections directly fron Japan @ a cost of abt RM3,000 for a full course and inject it yourself provided you accept the RISKS. Please don't ask your innocent family doctor or your neighbourhood nurse to inject the stuff for you. You are risking their licence to practise medicine.

Or you could pay the local black market rate of RM15 -20,000 for the course. You can find them in virtually any street corner - doctors, beauticians, accountants, network marketers, etc -all willing to make a fast buck. I have got nothing against these enterprising people but they are peddling something potentially life-threatening.

DANGERS OF LIFE CELL THERAPY:
1. ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK i.e. severe allergic reaction that usually kills you unless immediate life-saving drugs are administered.
2. LIVER FAILURE - reported inYomiuri Shinbun (Japanese newspaper) recently.

A note abt the oral version - works for abt 6 months to make you feel "energetic", then effects wear off even if you continue taking them. Thsi info is straight from the horse's mouth - a guy who used to own the distributing rights to one of these products. Yes, he had sold off the company when he told me this!

There you have it - the updated inside story on one of the most lucrative trades in town!

P.S. I don't have anything against using a safe drug or supplement even if it isn't registered. Our Drug Control Authorities are too slow to approve even drugs which can save lives. You often hear of people (cancer sufferers esp) spending thousands to fly overseas to get certain drug treatments simply because Malaysian health authorities don't approve of the life-saving drugs. Even Singapore is much faster to approve drugs & supplements.

For those who are young & healthy and wish to remain so, my advice is to stop smoking, eat healthily, exercise regularly and take SOME supplements (do your research on this, not just buy it from the direct-selling company promoting it!) . There is no magic bullet for remaining young ,even if there were, an unhealthy lifestyle would nullify all the benefits of the magic bullet!

Thankyou for the question - it gives me a stimulus to write some educational materials. :-)

[layman]

I can assure you that "cosmetic medicine" doesn't have a "royal" recognition but it certainly doesn't stop a lot of doctors (not just dermatologists and plastic surgeons, gynecologists, opthalmologists, cardiologists, psychiatrists too!) and beauticians from practising "cosmetic medicine" simply because it is lucrative and in high demand.

hello patrick

To quote/unquote this paragraph.-my understanding is that anyone can claimed and practised as a cosmetic 'specialist' .you dont need to be medically qualified then.will there be a legal recourse in the event of a botched job ?

so what is the difference between a beautician and a doctor with similar no.of years of training and practice?


recently an article in the malay mail revealed that in singapore GP with special interest in botox laser treatment etc charges substantially less than a dermatologist performing the same procedure.For layman like us the practical implications is that dermatologist obviously offer something 'extra'

[patrick]

sooyen,
The public forum address is not the doc's address. If you need it, I will pm you privately.

As to your question about charges, it's best the doc takes a look at your problem first. In any case, the doc says....

"Sounds like a cafe- au- lait birthmark, but will have to see it to be certain. Ave no of sessions 2-3."

I will pm you as to your your other questions as I have decided to prevent any controversy of commercialism.

Rgds.

[MintChocCoated]

Hi there. I would like to have Dr. Lim's contact please. Thanks.

[mayaray]

Hi Dr. Lim I am 27 years old but people have often said they thought i look older. I am not sure why they say that because I think i look my age.

One thing do the past 2 years i noted my left eyelid has 'shrunken' in. so sometimes when i am tired I have triple eyelid and this bothers me a lot because I can feel the triple eyelid.

I am wondering it is feasible or safe for fillers (hyaluronic acid) to be injected into this upper eyelid?

Just a thought.

By the way I am wondering how much you charge for IPL for skin redness and skin rejuvenation? My skin is naturally sensitive so I have uneven light telangiectasia on my face.

Patrick pls email me ok :)

Thanks
Maya

[Jenny Yi]

Hi Patrick.
last week a local doctor told me that doctors are not allowed to inject vitamin c to patients anymore since vitamin c is not considered a medicinal practise. Instead it is more like a beauty aid with no proven value/efficacy. She said that she would not accept new patients requiring this injection anymore - it might jeopardise her practising license. However, she lamented that beauty salon operators can continue with injecting their customers with vitamin c - since they are not regulated by the medical authority.
I don't understand this, and it does not seem to be logical - nobody but only doctors can administer injections to anyone
Please comment.
TQ

[Jenny Yi]

Hi Patrick.
last week a local doctor told me that doctors are not allowed to inject vitamin c to patients anymore since vitamin c is not considered a medicine. Instead it is more like a beauty aid with no proven value/efficacy. She said that she would not accept new patients requiring this injection anymore - it might jeopardise her practising license. However, she lamented that beauty salon operators can continue with injecting their customers with vitamin c - since they are not regulated by the medical authority.
I don't understand this, and it does not seem to be logical - as I would not allow anyone but doctors to inject anything into my body.
Please comment.
TQ

[patrick]

To mayaray's question:

The doc says you can't inject fillers into eyelids. As a guide, IPL charges are RM500 for whole face.

Rgds.

[patrick]

layman,

To your "understanding is that anyone can claimed and practised as a cosmetic 'specialist' .you dont need to be medically qualified then.will there be a legal recourse in the event of a botched job ?"

The doc says "Cosmetology per se does not come under the purview of medicine. "Cosmetic Medicine" is not yet a recognized "branch of medicine" in Malaysia."

"Botched jobs" obviously are caused by incompetent people who do things beyond their scope of training and/or ability. If one is foolish enough to go to a beauty salon to have ones nose injected with silicon, then one should always expect the worse of outcome. I didnt want to put this question to the doc because I think the answer is obvious. As to legal recourse, I think that matter be best put to a lawyer - Patrick

I think your question about "..difference between a beautician and a doctor.." is too academic and I also didnt want to forward to the good doc lest we take up too much of her time - Patrick

The doc also went on to write: If you want to go to a dermatologist for procedures such as laser & botox, then it's your prerogative.
Personally, given a choice of having microdermabrasion done by a trained &
experienced beautician who has been operating the machine for years or
having it done by a dermatologist (there are plenty of dermatologists doing
disease dermatology who have no experience in cosmetic dermatology) who has just bought the machine and never operated the machine before, I would
choose the former.

Would you rather have a hair transplant done by an Australian "GP" who
incidentally conducts training workshops in hair transplant surgery for all
doctors around the world or have it done by one of her students who is a
local plastic surgeon (your royal college type)?

The scope of cosmetic treatment is so wide, ranging from massage type
facials, to chemical peels to microdermabrasion to Endermologie, Botox
injections, lasers, IPL, and more interventional procedure such as double
eyelid surgery, breast implants, etc, etc. All of these procedures has its
place amongst aestheticians, physicians and surgeons. They are all
professionals in their own right. There are plenty of aestheticians and
doctors who do not conduct themselves professionally: E.g. the general
public (every profession included, even insurance salespeople, accountants,
etc etc) who give placenta injections, dubious beauticians who inject Botox
or collagen or worse still silicon. Then there are dermatologists who allow
their nurses to operate lasers and get fined & suspended by Singaporean
Health Authorities. The mistakes of the minority have marred the reputations of genuine operators.

In summary, it's just common sense whom you choose to go to for various
cosmetic treatments. Shop around, ask your friends, seek second, third or
even fourth opinions. You'll find the right doctor or beautician who can do
the best job for your requirements. It's a consumer's market out there.

The health authorities are carrying out credentialling exercises about who can
do certain procedures such as laser & injections. It will be implemented in the near future.


Rgds.

[mkhooi]

Does Dr Lim person IPL (Intese Pulsed Light)? How much does she charge then

[patrick]

Jenny Yi, doc's view is "this is indeed incorrect & illogical. Not true that doctors are not allowed to inject Vit C whereby beauticians are allowed to.
Fact is only doctors & nurses are legally allowed to administer injections.

The article in the newspaper re-emphasized a longstanding rule that no-one (not even doctors) is allowed to use or import drugs which are not registered with the Ministry of Health. There are many brands of INJECTABLE vitamin C which are not registered. But docs can make up their own injectable form from raw materials.

These are the facts and I hope they are clear."

[momo]

I was searching for Heliocare and this site came up. I live in Canada and am interested in finding out more about this product and where I may be able to purchase it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
thanx
momo

[teddydream]

:o Hi Patrick,me new member. i'm on VC Sheep Placenta for 3 mths now - ok, energetic, complexion improve a bit but would appreciate if u could mail me (if u do know) the contact for Vita X iv in town. I would like to consult them personally, thks.

[patrick]

mkhooi,
Doc says
"Charges for IPL is based on surface area covered (i.e. no of shots fired.). e.g. both cheeks & nose wld be abt RM300. Whole face RM500.
IPL hair removal again based on no of shots fired. There is however a discount for large areas e.g legs. Need to measure area to give accurate quote."

[patrick]

Momo, Doc says Heliocare originates from Spain. Perhaps you wanna try there?

Their US site for Heliocare is www.sunvitamines.com/update.htm

Rgds.

[patrick]

teddydream, sorry but the doc cant help you here. But she cautioned that
Vita X is not a registered product.

Rgds.

[Curious_Person]

i have a birthmark exactly on my right eyebrow...it is black in colour and it seems it is growing bigger over the years...the size is about 10 cent coin.
the birthmark is 3 dimension.(in malay-timbul,boleh dirasai...timbul macam bcg and tahi lalat..)..it looks more like mole/tahi lalat than birthmark...

secondly,i still have my bcg jab scar on my arm...what i have to do to remove both the birthmark and bcg scar.....can these be vanished using only laser treatment?


my body is quite hairy for a female...including my face...is it possible to remove the hair using laser hair removal...i mean all the hair on my body except eyebrows and hair on the head....i mean all of it including the pr*va*e area....and is it permanent?the hair will never ever grow back?

and is there any risk doing this such as surgeon error or blindness...

please anyone help me...please.....patrick can u pass this to dr.lim and give me his contact number and adress...

thank you very much for your cooperation :o

[my_baby]

Patrick, can I have Dr. Lim address and contact number?
Thank u..

[patrick]

My baby, the contact details have been sent to you by private message.

Rgds.

[ricky chong]

Please e_mail me Dr Lim's contact number? My email address rifstec@yahoo.com

[IVzh]

I`m in the year of 20, years before, i have a severe acne problem, and nw, it leave reddish scar on my face, esp on my neck n chin, though the one on cheek isnt obvious. Any treatment/surgery to heal my scar? Actually i`m still a student bt hopefully it can be done within budget of 2000-3000... and within one month ? as i m leaving malaysia next month.

I thought my skin type is combination one, as i will feel oily on my nose area, while very dry and sensitive on the other area... Will feel like "crack" sometimes when expose to the sun. Is the treatment suitable for my skin type ?

Presently, i m using rose hip oil + vit E as moisturizer and heard it is useful to fight+reduce scar, is it true?

Sorry for so much question in one times..
Thanx Dr. Lim

May u send the contact to my email ivan_ltl@hotmail.com

[patrick]

IVzh,

To make it more comprehensible, the doctor's respond follow your queries:

I`m in the year of 20, years before, i have a severe acne problem, and now, it leave reddish scar on my face, esp on my neck n chin, though the one on cheek isnt obvious. Any treatment/surgery to heal my scar?

IPL 1 SESSION HELPS IMPROVE APPEARANCE BY ABT 50%. COST 500 WHOLE FACE.

Actually i`m still a student bt hopefully it can be done within budget of 2000-3000... and within one month ? as i m leaving malaysia next month.
I thought my skin type is combination one, as i will feel oily on my nose area, while very dry and sensitive on the other area... Will feel like "crack" sometimes when expose to the sun. Is the treatment suitable for my skin type ?

TREATMENT IS OK FOR THIS SKIN TYPE BUT PLS USE MOISTURISERS

Presently, i m using rose hip oil + vit E as moisturizer and heard it is
useful to fight+reduce scar, is it true?

DOESN'T WORK ALL THAT WELL TO PREVENT SCARS. MAY HELP TO LIGHTEN IT A LITTLE.

Trust the answers here will be of help to you.

[shannon]

hi, i'm new to here as refered by my fren.
i currently still suffering from the problem of pimples and acnes.
i tried many ways but still useless.
now i'm taking tetracycline and the problem is under control, but if i stop taking it, the pimple and acne will come again after few months.
can i continue to take the pills ?
my fren told me a pills called isotretinoin, he said is very effective, so where can i get this and how much?
beside taking pills, any other method to prevent pimples and acnes ?

[patrick]

Yes, tetracycline is an effective antibiotic to control acne. It is not harmful to the body to continue the antibiotics on a long term basis but your acne bacteria can develop resistance to the antibiotic. Hence, i don't usually suggest taking longer than 6 months at a stretch.

Isotretinoin is very effective but there can be serious side-effects - cannot fall pregnant (causes fetal abnormalities), can affect liver and increase cholesterol. Can affect bone growth. Minor side-effects include dryness of skin and mouth, everywhere. But acne also recurs after stopping it for abt 1 year.

Try taking more natural methods e.g probiotics (in yoghurt), vitamins C&E, low carbo diet, plenty water, decrease stress, etc.

Doc

[shannon]

beside that i also hv oil secretion probelm.
my face is always full of oil, and so as my hair.
i think this lead to acne and also cause thinning hair problem for me.
any method to control the oil secretion ?

[patrick]

The Doc's response :

Drugs such as tretinoin will do the trick but weigh up the pros and cons.
If female, can try cyproterone.

[shannon]

any recommendation for male ?

[soonlin313]

Hi, would like to go for the Intensive Pulse Light Treatment for my frecklewhich was born with it. Understand that it will take few session aparts a month? What is the range of the charges?
Can i have Dr Lim's Clinic address and contact? Please sent it to my private messages, thanks.


GOOD NEWS to all our lady members on USJ.COM. We have managed to persuade a friend to join our website and provide a venue for ladies to raise all those thousand and one questions they had always wanted to raise regarding skin care and beauty.

Dr Lim is an Australian qualified doctor, with a Cosmetic Science Diploma from UK. She has been in the cosmetic dermatology business for the last five over years, and now operates her own practice from Mt Kiara Plaza. Her services include:

1. Medlite pigment laser - removes all types of pigmentation including tattoos, birthmarks, Mongolian spots, freckles, cafe au lait marks, sunspots, age spots.

2. Intense Pulsed Light Skin rejuvenation - removes superficial
pigmentation, shrinks pores, removes fine lines, broken

3. Intense Pulsed Light Hair removal - on all parts of body
4. Microdermabrasion - treatment for rejuvenating skin, minimises scars (e.g. acne scars), decreases pigmentation, wrinkles, etc.

5. Chemical peel - removes pigmentation, acne, wrinkles, etc

6. Botox & Restylane & Nufill injections for depressed scars, deep wrinkles

7. Electrosurgery for removal of lumps & bumps e.g. oil spots. milia, warts, moles.

8. Iontophoresis - good for treating pigmentation, skin firming, acne

9. Hair loss treatment

10. Weight loss & maintenance for health programme

11. Brava breast enhancement & shaping system

Please post your questions here and the good Doctor will respond to all relevant issues. By all means, stay anonymous if you wish to. Trust our lady friends will find this 'Column' interesting and useful.

[patrick]

shannon, I believe the Doc had already replied as "tretinoin"

Rgds.

[patrick]

soonlin313, here is doc's reponse:

"Treatments are 3-4 weeks apart.
Charge per session depends on how many shots fired - would be in region of 200-300 per session"

[Ssue]

I have found the www.SkinCareResourceCenter.com a good educational website on skin rejuvenation and for information on non-invasive anti-aging skin care treatments.
I've been using a gylcolic gel along with Vitamin A ( a retinol cream) which I have found to be effective for me....
Ssue :)

[patrick]

Ssue, I noticed that you have been subtly spamming and promoting this website: www.SkinCareResourceCenter.com at our Beauty & You thread.

Would strongly suggest you cease this activity immediately.

[gg123]

Hi,

kindly send Dr Lim's contact to my private msg.

thanks.

[kherying]

Hi there...may I have Dr.Lim's contact details and the location of his clinic? Thanks..

please send it to kherying@yahoo.com

thanks once again!

A very useful forum you have here!

[monty]

I have some ice pick scarrings on my nose and cheeks. I am thinking about punch floats/punch elevation for these scars. Quote:

" Ice pick scars typically get a punch incision which is done with a biopsy needle. This is similar to a cookie-cutter technique.

There are box car scars which use punch elevation, also called punch float. In this technique, the scar tissue is raised to meet the regular tissue beside it. It is then held with a certain tape or stitch."

Does Dr. Lim perform these procedures since he also does needle abrasion which is pretty new.

Finally can you please send me Dr. Lim's contact number or email to my private inbox?

Thanks!!

[patrick]

Monty, Doc says "Yes, I do these procedures. Cheeks is fine but I don't do punch excision for nose because skin is tight there and healing is under tension so it's not advisable for the nose area. I can do 6 scars max in one session."

Hope that answers your questions.

[patrick]

Here's good news for those who care about their looks. Our panel consultant doctor now has a special offer.

Diamond microdermabrasion of face 6 session package @ RM600

plus free neck treatment
plus free mask (choice of firming, anti- acne or whitening)

Offer valid from now till Aug 31st 2005

Those keen to take up this offer, please email me for the doctors' contact. Those who already have her contact, may contact her directly.

Rgds to all.

[tsuitinglew]

Before and After Eyelid Surgery

[patrick]

tsuitinglew, what is the point you are making here? Are you propagating or promoting eyelid surgery, or what?

Rgds.

[sukabumi88]

Hi Patrick,

Appreciate if you could send me the address of Dr Lim to sukabumi88@yahoo.com

Thanks,

Bumi

[angel_lim]

Hi, Patrick, kindy email me the contact of Dr. Lim and the address of the clinic location, wish to pay a visit for the IPL treatment, Thanks.

[soonlin313]

Hi, Patrick,
Would like to pay a visit to Dr. Lim for the IPL treatment, kindly help to email Dr. Lim's contact and clinic location to my email : soonlin313@hotmail.com if possible.
Thanks.

[soonlin313]

Wish to take up the offer for the above mentioned treatment, please provide doctor's contact if possible.
my personal email : soonlin313@hotmail.com, thanks

[patrick]

Contact has been sent by private mail. Plse check your mail.

Rgds.

[dippy]

hey patrick.. can u send me Dr. Lim clinic address to my email address.. l_wei_s@yahoo.co.uk thank you.. and can u tell me how much will it cost for a normal consultation..

[mflo]

hi patrick...can i have dr lim's contact details and the location of the clinic? thanks in advance.

[patrick]

dippy and mflo, trust both of you have received the contact. Rgds.

[maggigorenggirl]

Sorry Patrick, another person bugging you for Dr Lim's address/tel no....I'd be grateful if emailed to me, maggigorenggirl@usj.com.my

[simply_ecstasy]

Hi

Im interested in getting hold of Heliocare Oral posted some months ago by Dr. Lim. How can I obtain it? Please e mail to simply_ecstasy@hotmail.com

Thank you

[reese123]

I can c dat 1 of ur service is Brava breast enhancement & shaping system. May i know more about this? where is your location and how much is it? Any contact number? Pls email to ren.2004@gmail.com

[kahkuong]

Dear Patrick,

I would like the details for your Dr Lim clinic for treatment.
Thank you. kahkuong@hotmail.com

[unknownnames]

Hello.
I'm 24years old looking for help. My skin condition very poor and im use medicine to control the acne, but now my face without ance but leave alot red mark and scar on the face and make me no confident to myself and sometimes not dare to see mirror.

Which is best treatment for for scar? and normally cost how much?

[patrick]

reese123,
Brava USA is currently in the process of appointing a new local distributor. So I would suggest buying from the newly appointed distributor rather than directly from USA because there will be no after sales support if buying directly from USA.


(Reese123, I have taken the liberty to leave your email with the doctor. She will contact you when Brava is made available locally.- Patrick )

[patrick]

unknownnames,

I think It's best if you let the doc examine your face first to determine what type of scars and hence what type of treatment is suitable.
You can make an appt to see her. Dont worry, she dosn't charge for advice and quotes.

Rgds.

[wbiz]

Hi, Kindly email Dr.Lim's contact details and the location of her clinic to worldbiz@lycos.com. Tq vy much!

[patrick]

unknownnames asked "Do u have filler treatment. like Restylane? are filler treatment have side effect?"


Respond from our Doctor:
Filler injections fill up wrinkles, hollows in the face. Restylane fillers are very safe. Side-effects usually just some bruising and swelling for up to 2 days. Regards.

[cyber-red]

Hi, My name is Reta, and I'm doing a seminar paper concerning a sub topic on plastic surgery. I need to interview a person who has had undergone plastic surgery, whether lips, eyelids, breasts so forth.

Interview would be done through email. Just a couple of questions on their decisions pertaining to plastic surgery eg. why they did it, would they worry of consequences..

pls drop me an email at reta81@gmail.com

Thank you!

[unknownnames]

unknownnames asked "Do u have filler treatment. like Restylane? are filler treatment have side effect?"


Respond from our Doctor:
Filler injections fill up wrinkles, hollows in the face. Restylane fillers are very safe. Side-effects usually just some bruising and swelling for up to 2 days. Regards.

Can Restylane make the scar better?

[eusufkamaruddin]

which one is better???

[patrick]

Can Restylane make the scar better?

Reply from our Doc:

"Restylane can temporarily fill a distensible (means you can manually stretch it flatter) saucer-shaped scar. No use for ice-pick scars. Duration of action for Restylane is about 8 months to 1 year.
Seems to be lots of questions on acne scar treatment - I will consider writing a little educational piece soon summarizing acne scar treatment. Will try to get it done soon. Regards"

[patrick]

which one is better???

Reply: "Crystal microdermabrasion uses loose crystals - can be messier and more painful. Diamond uses a diamond encrusted surface - less painful. But effect is the same."

[Pets=Friends]

I read that Omnilux Blue Light is very effective in stopping body acne. I was wondering if it's easily accessible in Malaysia and how much does it cost?

[patrick]

Doc says "Omnilux delivers blue light of 408 nm. It is effective not just for body acne but face as well . Done 2x/week for at least 8 sessions. It does not necessarily work for everyone although I think success rate is definitely more than 50%. Last year I trialled a patient on blue light treatment following their protocol i.e 8 sessions over 1 month - didn't do a thing for her but then again, her cause of acne was endocrinological. If she had to pay for it, it would have cost at least RM2000.

I don't know who in Malaysia has the Omnilux but just be aware that there is a failure rate i.e. doesn't work for eveybody. You'll have to contact the manufacturers about what the failure rate is."

Thanks doc. Most interesting!!

[Pets=Friends]

Yeah agree, very interesting. Thanks patrick and Dr. Lim.

[gigi_ooi]

Hi, I just logged in and saw this offer of diamond microderbrasion. Pls give me the details of the doctor at this e-mail please: gigi_ooi@yahoo.com

I hope that the offer is still on.

rgds. :)


Here's good news for those who care about their looks. Our panel consultant doctor now has a special offer.

Diamond microdermabrasion of face 6 session package @ RM600

plus free neck treatment
plus free mask (choice of firming, anti- acne or whitening)

Offer valid from now till Aug 31st 2005

Those keen to take up this offer, please email me for the doctors' contact. Those who already have her contact, may contact her directly.

Rgds to all.

[patrick]

Lately there has been many issues raised about Acne problems and treatment. Our Doctor has been kind enough to pen a a short article specially for the benefit of our readers. Here's her article:

Impact]ACNE SCAR TREATMENTS[/COLOR] - sorting out the plethora of treatments offered out there


One reads of many ads in the papers touting acne scar treatment. What really works?
It all depends on the depth and type of scars - I categorize them into:
1) depressed scars - icepick or saucer-shaped
2) keloidal - more common on anterior chest
3) hemosiderin stains - red discolourations

Below is a list of treatments currently on offer with a brief commentary:

Icepick scars - best treatment would be punch excision but this is realistic only if you have a few of them. If you have multiple densely packed icepick scars, then it would be impractical to do this treatment. Another option is subcision and filler - in theory, it is quite appealing but I've seen some cases where the patient ends up with a lump under the scar which is still apparent. Another negative point is the expense of the filler material (if it is temporary then you 'll have to fork out every year). If it is permanent, there are so many controversies about what these permanent foreign bodies under your skin can do to you. Another filler option is your own fat graft but you'll have to find a plastic surgeon who is expert at doing this because fat grafts do regress somewhat.
More affordable options (but with some downtime) would be needle-abrasion (NO, you do not have to pay RM2000 for the needles) and chemical reconstruction of scars.

Saucer-shaped scars - many treatments abound. Effective ones would be Cooltouch (1320 nm) or Smoothbeam (1450 nm) laser. Plus points -Smoothbeam can also reduce active acne and there is no downtime. Negative points - very expensive (be prepared to spend about RM10K total) and painful (physically, not just on the hip pocket nerve!). Microdermabrasion can help only very, very shallow scars. Needle abrasion (also called collagen induction therapy) works very nicely and it's affordable, negative point - abt 1-2 days downtime.

Keloidal scars - Tried and tested options include intralesional steroid injections (it works but can leave red discoloration) , silicone sheet plasters (totally painless but may not work on everyone). Some newer options include radiofrequency, laser or IPL to "soften up" the scar - does not give consistent results but worth a try if the tried and tested options don't yield results.

Hemosiderin stains - pulsed dye laser gives best results but expensive. Cheaper option - good old chemical peel but must be done in experienced hands otherwise can result in chemical burns.

Just a quick comment on other treatments:
DERMABRASION - it is mechanical sanding of the skin. Not suitable for Asian skin as we tend to develop post- inflammatory pigmentation.
CO2 or Erbium Yag laser - it also removes a pretty thick layer of skin and again like above, can cause post-inflammatory pigmentation
1064 nm YAg laser (often advertised in CN beauty salon ads) - good for fine lines but doesn't work on scars. Don't waste your money.

I've probably confused those who are not familiar with the terms used above but it is very difficult to condense everything into a short email.
The short message is
- prevention is better than cure. One should not wait until it scars before treating acne because a realistic expectation from acne scar treatment is averagely 50% improvement - there can never be 100% reversal of scarred to unscarred skin.
- choose your treatments wisely and budget accordingly (make sure you can afford the full course of treatments) because half-hearted treatments would not give you much results.

Regards.

[amnahs]

hi,

I want to know, is there any treatment for birtmark removal of Nevus of Ota type. Appreciate if you can email me the pricing and related info.

tq.
-amnah
amnahsh@yahoo.com

[patrick]

Doc says:
"Medlite laser is the laser that specifically removes Naevus of Ota well. Takes anything from 3-10 sessions depending on size and depth of pigmentation. Sessions are done approx every 3 months. Cost depends on size of naevus - from 100 per session, average cost 500."

[amnahs]

Patrick,

Thanks for the explaination. Can I have the address and contact no of the clinic.
Email to amnahsh@yahoo.com . TQ.

[ryws]

Just a quick question.
Peeling and Microdermabrasion both remove the outer layer of skin. I'm just wondering the pros & cons. Which is better in term of effectiveness?

[shadowguardian]

Hi! Can you email the address of Dr Lim's clinic to me? tonywonglm@gmail.com
One more question, I'm not sure if these were being discussed before in the thread but are there any effective treatment for oily skin and removal of acne mark (the dark spots caused by acne) Thanks.

[patrick]

Just a quick question.
Peeling and Microdermabrasion both remove the outer layer of skin. I'm just wondering the pros & cons. Which is better in term of effectiveness?

"It depends on type of acid used. Generally, acid peeling can be deeper if strong acid is used. Most microdermabrasion machines are built not to cut too deep except the doctors' models."

[patrick]

shadowguardian, sorry I cant respond to your question now as I am away overseas. Will resond when I get back. Sorry for the delay.

Rgds.

[sherry_girl75]

Hi Patrick,


I am interested in the procedure that being discussed in this forum. Can you email me Dr Lim's Clinic address and contact no?

Thanks

Sherry :cool:

[sherry_girl75]

Patrick,

Send Dr Lim's add and no to sherry_girl75@yahoo.com


Thanks again

[Mz_tera]

to me too..... couette@gmail.com
also I'd like to know the cost for laser hair removal... for eyebrow areas

[patrick]

to me too..... couette@gmail.com
also I'd like to know the cost for laser hair removal... for eyebrow areas

"Laser hair removal would be about RM100 for eyebrow hairs".

[mkhooi]

What about Vitamin C injection? What is the cost for one injection? Would like to know the pros and cons of Vit injection.

How many session does pulsed dye laser need to get rid of redmarks. Does Dr Leng has any intention to buy pulsed dye laser machine? If yes how much would each treatment cost

[patrick]

Pulsed dye laser is very expensive and the good doctor has no plan to invest in one yet.

As to your other question about vitamin C, Doc says:

"Why do you need Vit C injections for? As one has read in the newspapers, it isn't the miracle anti-aging jab that it has been falsely promoted as. Vit C is useful as a supplement for improving one's immune system, metabolism and collagen growth in all parts of body. People who need intravenous injections of Vit C are those who have dietary deficiencies, gut absorption problems and possibly smokers.

However, mesotherapy (mincroinjections of polyvitamins) into areas of hyperpigmentation is effective for treating pigmentation and also for promoting collagen growth."

[patrick]

Good News ladies & gentlemen!

The doc has passed me a good piece of good news. Says..

"Suppliers of hyaluronic acid fillers have dropped their prices until the end of October!
If you intend to do fillers in the near future, then it would be a good opportunity to buy now - it can be kept for at least 6 months.

Hyaluronic acid has been dropped by about 25 - 35% from their normal prices!
(Sorry I cant quote the prices here)

Hyaluronic acid is a temporary filler lasting 8-12 months that can be used to fill up thin lips, sunken cheeks, deep lines and augment certain facial features. It is perfectly safe because it is temporary i.e. after 12 months, there will not be any traces of it left behind in your body.
The procedure is relatively painless because anaesthetic (numbing) cream is used. Side-effects of redness and mild bruising would be minimal. Results are seen instantly!"

So if you folks are interested, please pm me for the doctor's contact if you do not already have it. Stay healthy and look good!!

[mei ly]

hello... i really intrested in BRAVA..... bcos.. i've already try all the cream, gel, pump and etc... and it doesn't work!!!
where can i get the product..
the cost???
can u email me any information of BRAVA - miely12@gmail.com
thanxxx....

[fadzilah]

I would like to know where is NARF available and the cost for the treatment. Also whether it is effective for over 40s. Thank you.

A contribution from our panel doctor:

Dear folks,

In this issue. I will be dealing with 4 topics of current
interest:

1. Weight loss
2. Radiofrequency skin rejuvenation
3. Vitamin C supplementation
4. Heliocare - the first of its kind, oral sun protection

1. Weight Loss
It's that time of the year again when we overindulge and the
scales show yet another 5-10 % increase in body weight. It's
called creeping obesity.
Most attribute it to "old age" and blame it on a slowing
metabolism but the truth is simpler.... we eat too much and
lead sedentary lifestyles. I'm not going to write another essay
except to point you all to this very informative website which
does not try to sell you any products. Happy reading!

http://www.weightlossadviser.com/index.html

2. Non-ablative Radiofrequency (NARF) Skin Firmng & Lifting
NARF is the latest technology that is showing visible
gratifying results for skin firming and lifting.
Radiofrequency waves are used to 1) tighten collagen under the
skin leading to immediate visible skin tightening and
lifting and 2) stimulate new collagen growth which leads to
long term(6-12 months) skin firming and lifting.
There is absolutely no down time and relatively pain-free.
One course of treatment is 6 sessions every 2 weeks apart.

3. Vitamin C supplementation
Systemic Vitamin supplementation is currently in vogue for
making the skin fairer, firming it up and for generally
improving the immune system.
Please get proper medical advice before having it administered
as it is not something that everyone can take. Please be
cautious about non-medical personnel who are administering
this stuff and shop around for the best price.

4. Heliocare Oral
Heliocare Oral is the first oral sun protectant with
clinically proven ability to prevent free radicals, premature
aging and hyperpigmentation caused by harmful UV rays. The
main ingredient is an extract of the plant Polypodium
leucotomos, researched and developed at Harvard Medical
School.
It has been used safely in the market for over 20 years in
Europe with no reported side-effects. Heliocare Oral is the
first line of defense against sun-damage and sunblock creams
should be used to complement it.


Thankyou for your attention and please don't hesistate to contact me if your have further questions.

Regards,
Dr. Lim

[patrick]

Our good doc has received many enquiries on acne treatment and other such related issues. She has written me to offer the following:

"In spite of the various available treatments for acne, there are many patients who fail to respond adequately or who develop problematic side-effects.
A blue light source destroys the P.acnes (bacteria responsible for causing acne) reducing the number of acne lesions by up to 60%.

You can now purchase a home-use phototherapy unit to treat yourself everyday at home for the price of about 70% of the price outside. The gadget is long-lasting and should last one a lifetime at recommended daily usage.

With this purchase, you can also enjoy in-office phototherapy (more intense than the home-use gadget) @ only 40% of the normal price per session to kickstart your treatment. In-office treatments can be done as frequently as every 48 hours. This offer is available from now till the end of October.

Please call or email to book appointment or further details. Thankyou.

[silverwilly]

hi, i'm new here in the forum. I have a few keloid scars on my upper chest area, and so far, as i know, the most economical solution would be to use the Hansaplast Scar Reducer. However, i would still like to know what other options i have to treat them. The largest scar has been around for a 3-4 years now, and is about 1.5cm in length. I have heard of using kenacort injections to treat them. I'm not afraid of needles, but worry about the cost and effectiveness. Is the effect of the injection lasting or would i have to repeat it every few months for the rest of my life? I am still a student, and since it is only a cosmetic problem, and not anything life treathening, i do not want to burden my parents. Thank you for you assistance.

[patrick]

hello... i really intrested in BRAVA..... bcos.. i've already try all the cream, gel, pump and etc... and it doesn't work!!!
where can i get the product..
the cost???
can u email me any information of BRAVA - miely12@gmail.com
thanxxx....

"NARF is available in my clinic.
It is effective even for those over 40's up to age 60." - Doc

[patrick]

Good news! Our panel doctor is overstocked with Xenical capsules and has agreed to specially reduce about 14% off the recommended retail price of RM290 per box of 84 capsules. Expiry date for this batch is Sept 2006.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with these capsules, they reduce fat absorption of fatty foods if taken just after meals. It can be taken up to 3 times a day. It is particularlt useful for diabetics or just for overweight people.

This price is available till stocks are sold off.

Any takers please contact the doc directly or email me for contact details.

[patrick]

hi, i'm new here in the forum. I have a few keloid scars on my upper chest area, and so far, as i know, the most economical solution would be to use the Hansaplast Scar Reducer. However, i would still like to know what other options i have to treat them. The largest scar has been around for a 3-4 years now, and is about 1.5cm in length. I have heard of using kenacort injections to treat them. I'm not afraid of needles, but worry about the cost and effectiveness. Is the effect of the injection lasting or would i have to repeat it every few months for the rest of my life? I am still a student, and since it is only a cosmetic problem, and not anything life treathening, i do not want to burden my parents. Thank you for you assistance.

"Hansaplast should be used continuously even if attempting other treatment options which are:
- kenocort injections - very effective, one injection will keep keloid at bay for anything from 2 months to forever - unpredictable. Cost varies from RM60-150 per session depending on number & size of keloids. Keloids may keep recurring. Hansaplast helps to keep it under control.
Other less effective (less consistent result) options - freezing with liquid nitrogen, pulsed dye laser for red keloids.
Surgical excision - may definitely recur." - Doc.

[lannyk]

Hi Patrick...Can you email me Dr Lim's Clinic address, opening hours and contact no to lannykoh@hotmail.com ....i would like to know more about the laser treatment for spots...thanks

[Fid]

Hi Patrick
Could you please email me Dr Lim's Clinic address, opening hours and contact number.
Rgds.

[saintwui]

hi Patrick,

i am new in the forum and would like to get some advice on microdermabrasion. Could you offer me some advice regarding the procedure and also provide me with Dr Lim's clinic contact number and address?

many thanks,
saintwui

[Dolphin]

Hi Patrick,

Appreciate if you could email me Dr Lim's clinic contact number and address. Many thanks.

Regards,
Dolphin

[patrick]

hi Patrick,

i am new in the forum and would like to get some advice on microdermabrasion. Could you offer me some advice regarding the procedure and also provide me with Dr Lim's clinic contact number and address?

many thanks,
saintwui

Microdermabrasion is a procedure that can remove as many layers of skin as the operator wants. I usually limit the procedure to just the top few layers of dead skin. Results are cleaner, more radiant skin and whiteheads and blackheads are also sucked out.
One only needs to go deeper if treating acne scars, in which case, it would be localised.
It's a very safe procedure if done in trained hands. - Doc

[Dolphin]

Hi Patrick,

Can you please email me Dr. Lim's contact details? my email addr is deniseasj@yahoo.com

Regards,
Dolphin

[patrick]

Our Doc has been asked about improvement of skin elasticity and improvement of complexion. She has asked me to post it here for the benefit of everyone interested. Rgds - Patrick

"If you're looking for
- improved skin hydration & elasticity
- enhanced skin tonicity
- disappearance of fine lines
- balanced skin pigmentation

then, mesolift will give you the result you want in a few short sessions.

Vitamins, minerals & anti-oxidants are essential to rejuvenate your skin cells making them metabolically active, thus stimulating collagen & elastin production. Hyaluronic acid provides more active and longer lasting hydration to prevent and combat skin aging.

In the mesolift procedure, these substances are transported into the dermal-epidermal junction of the skin to rejuvenate and revitalize your face. In the traditional mesolift procedure, a small needle is used to insert the substances into the skin. There is now a needle-free technique that uses an electroporator to transport nutrients into the skin painlessly WITHOUT needles.

The number of sessions that you have to go through will depend on your stage of ageing, your wishes and your budget. A typical treatment schedule would be
1 session every 2 weeks for 4 sessions
then 1 session per month for maintenance"

[lannyk]

Hi Patrick...Can you email me Dr Lim's Clinic address, opening hours and contact no to lannykoh@hotmail.com ....i would like to know more about the laser treatment for spots...thanks
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[stardust]

Hi Patrick,

can you email me dr.lim's contact details and klinic address pls. thanks.
cadryion@yahoo.com


Regards,
Stardust

[capri]

I do have some question on beauty consultantion with Dr. Lim can you provide me Dr. Lim contact?or email?my email is sophianica@yahoo.com

[patrick]

I do have some question on beauty consultantion with Dr. Lim can you provide me Dr. Lim contact?or email?my email is sophianica@yahoo.com

Have sent you by private mail.

Rgds.

[Elle]

Hi Patrick,

I’m new to this forum and I’ve found this thread helpful and encouraging. Keep up the good work!

I have a couple of questions for Dr.Lim regarding birthmark removal. I have a café-au-lait birthmark on my left calf. It is dark brown, oval in shape and approx 4.5cm in length.

I would like to know how many sessions I would need to undertake before the birthmark becomes ‘invisible’. How frequent are these sessions done? Also, how much improvement can I see after the 1st session? What happens if I do not follow through all the required sessions and remove the birthmark completely? Will there be any consequences such as recurrence?

Btw, could you pass me Dr.Lim’s contact details and her clinic address through my private mail?

Thank you…

[patrick]

Elle, Doc says "Cafe au lait spots can be nicely removed by Medlite laser - minimum 2 sessions required, can be more. Can probably see abt 30-50% lightening after 1 session. Some 20% pigmentation may recur therefore repeated sessions are required to totally remove it. Total recurrence is unusual."

Trust that helps.

[Elle]

Thanks Patrick! Thanks Dr.Lim!

[patrick]

Thanks Patrick! Thanks Dr.Lim!

You are welcomed. Trust Dr Lim has been of great help to you. Take care.

[patrick]

For the benefit of our Forumers, our good Doctor will be out of town on the following dates in December: 6th - 8th (Tue - Thur) and 10th (Sat). Hence if you wish to consult her, please avoid these dates.

As such, we will also not be able to handle any enquiries/questions during this period.

Rgds.

[syltel]

Hi Patrick, could you email me Dr Lim's address and tel. number please?? Txs
My email is syltel1969@yahoo.co.uk

[lynnt]

thanks for the info on birthmark removals. i would like to lighten my marks too, how much does it cost per session? (i hv 3 marks altogether, 2 1"x0.5" adjacent to each other and another 1x1"). do let me know, by pm if required, thanks!

[esuiah]

Hi Patrick,

Service for man also?
I want to have total face skin treatment improvement. Can I have your handphone and centre address? My email: ersuiah@yahoo.com

[aphrodzx]

Kindly email to yasmin78@gmail.com

thx patrick..

[fjorn]

Need Dr's contact info. Kindly send to me private mailbox. Thanks

[fjorn]

undefinedNeed Dr's contact info. Kindly send to me private mailbox. Thanks

[ayumi]

May I know how much does it charge for birthmark removal laser treatment (on the right arm)? The mark is a not too dark, coffee-and-cream type, approximately 2 inch wide, 5-6 inch long. How many sessions will I need to attend?
How do i contact Dr. Lim?Can you give me his contact no. and address?thanks.

[patrick]

ayumi, doc says most birthmarks would be eradicated within 3 sessions. As for the costs, I have forward them to you by private mail.

Rgds.

[leewinnie46]

Hi goodneighbour Patrick:) - Thank you again, we already like the idea from KWChang, now this one no less, especially when we see no additional unnecessary appearance of alphabets behind the good doctor's name.:)

By Monday or soonest possible, we would give it a shot - rest assure this is not 'overloaded' - still feeling the pains of being smacked by the dejected political supporter.:(

We're sure the good doctor might want to or might be allowed in this case to speak freely about the alternative holistic medicine that we haven't been hearing about, instead of pharmaceutical treatments, in this forum topic, as we see no harm for anyone to offer free medical guidance or advice to our community.:)

IF it is ok with the other members of the forum of course, other than of course with the other dejected medical expert who is still watching n treating us like its supper, from a tree, somewhere.:D

We figure me wife has got too much chemical already in her system. Forgot to mentioned though, her conditions is worsen or hard to be cured, due to the fact that she comes in constant contact with chemicals due to her biz, no matter how much she tries to avoid the contacts, the chemical fumes get into her system.:(

Anyway, we would definitely give the good doctor a shot:) Not unless the good doctor would ask of her to quit her biz that is:D
A friend with asthma (two kids - 21 years old study in UK as surgeon and 15 years old boy) problem told me that she bought an air cleaning system from Amway and it work better for her. And recently she move to Seremban - a subdivision whereby you buy land and build your bungalow on the hill side and her asthma and migrain just dissappear after that and she have not visit the specilist after that.

She stay at SS15 subang jaya for 20 years.

[patrick]

From our Doc, here's good news for those who cares about their looks....

The Titan Procedure is a safe, non-surgical process that uses an infrared light source to tighten skin & reverse the signs of aging. The deeper layers of the skin is heated to cause collagen contraction while the upper layer is continuously cooled. In addition, it can stimulate long-term collagen rebuilding that leaves patients with younger looking skin.

Where can it treat? Lax and redundant skin throughout the body - face, neck, abdomen, thighs and arms - can be treated.

How many sessions are required? 1 session already gives good results. 2 sessions done 3-4 weeks apart are all that is required for a tightening effect that lasts up to 2 years.

[nananurgaya]

Hello Patrick,
Need to know from Dr Lim abt the above. Also please suggest treatment with the least amount of pain. Heard about mesotherapy for cellulite, do you offer the treatment? How painful on a scale of 1 to 10. Also need to know the good doctor's location and contact no.
TQ much!

[patrick]

Hello Patrick,
Need to know from Dr Lim abt the above. Also please suggest treatment with the least amount of pain. Heard about mesotherapy for cellulite, do you offer the treatment? How painful on a scale of 1 to 10. Also need to know the good doctor's location and contact no.
TQ much!

Doc says "Mild acne scars/pores - combination needleabrasion (not much pain if anesthetic cream left on 1 hour) and microdermabrasion (no pain at all). Abt 6 sessions each.
Cellulite - mesotherapy .Pain scale 5. Done every fortnightly initially, then monthly."

[leeloo]

Dear Patrick,
Kindly e-mail me Dr Lim's address and phone number to safizasalleh@gmail.com. Thanks.

[kcsy]

Hi patrick,
Seems like the treatments and therapies from dr.lim's center sounds promising, I do have a lot of questions but it is best if I go consult dr.lim on my own.
Could u email me dr.lim's contacts at kelcsy167@gmail.com? Thanks.

[angus4177]

Hi !
This is my first post to the site. I wonder if anyone could provide me with some information!
I have been looking on the net for somewhere that I can go and get lazer tattoo removal treatment, and approximate costs. Cant find anything!
I am a male, and have a small homemade tatoo on my finger which I would like to remove. It was done with a needle and ink, and is a darkish blue colour, approximately 1 inch in size.
Any suggestions as to a reputable clinic would be most helpful!
Thanks.