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SiangMalam
11-11-2011, 11:15 PM
Last Saturday 5th November, my wife and I left the Holiday Inn Glenmarie on our way back to Penang after a few days' stay in Klang Valley. We didn't realize it was the start of a long weekend due to the Hari Raya Haji so when we hit the North South Highway and saw the bumper-to-bumper trafiic only did we realize we were right smack of a major exodus of KL people balik kampung....

It was bad enough we couldn't even enter the R&R areas as they were all jammed up with vehicles parked haphazardly so imagine if you had a full bladder needing immediate release?

The worse things we saw years ago when we were part of this balik kampung exodus, we still see it today! Very, very dangerous and irresponsible and mostly committed by big expensive luxurious cars obviously with idiots and nincompoops driving them...

They zoomed along the emergency lane! Let me say this to anyone who might have been guilty, you are a stupid idiot and you are showing your kids in the car what an irresponsible driver / father you are! One day you kid will be killed or will kill or worse, maim someone for doing what you have shown him to do!

Hiliary
12-11-2011, 06:49 PM
"They" will never change, never.
Should this be in the queue jumping thread?

currymee
14-11-2011, 10:58 AM
"They" will never change, never.
Should this be in the queue jumping thread?

Queue-jumping thread is already "infested" with a few inconsiderate drivers .... :(

There is already a "heaty" disucssions there ... :p

I opted out after a while coz it is like hitting a BRICK WALL !! :rolleyes:

burntan
14-11-2011, 11:08 AM
Well, I am the one who will drive in the emergency lane to avoid traffic jam. I will teach my kid not to be so "square" on everything as well. Sometime right or wrong isn't that important (there are people going to war just because of right and wrong), what's working that is more important.

DarkNite
14-11-2011, 11:10 AM
My friend tried to leave on Friday afternoon only to turn back on seeing the horrendous jams. They left very early on Saturday morning for Penang at 4am. It was a jam free event! :D

cml
14-11-2011, 11:15 AM
That's why our society will not progress when we have people cutting queue and they seem to think that they have done nothing wrong. Imagine if everyone starts driving on the emergency land and it is also stuck and an ambulance needs to go through but cannot because of the all the inconsiderate drivers and that person dies because of the delay in getting through. Well I suppose these people will think that they or their loved ones would never be in an ambulance, ever. Maybe they think that they are 'protected' somehow by some magical forces and most likely they would never ever be in an ambulance but that is not the point is it?

Rhiga
14-11-2011, 11:21 AM
Well, I am the one who will drive in the emergency lane to avoid traffic jam. I will teach my kid not to be so "square" on everything as well. Sometime right or wrong isn't that important (there are people going to war just because of right and wrong), what's working that is more important.

I feel so sad for your kids, your parents, your siblings, your relatives and anyone who biologically related to you with no choice....

And not to forget those who are not biologically related to you but have to relate to you with no choice – your dog, your friends (if you ever have friends), your colleagues, your neighbors..etc

I weep for them especially for the poor dog....

burntan
14-11-2011, 11:25 AM
That's why our society will not progress when we have people cutting queue and they seem to think that they have done nothing wrong. Imagine if everyone starts driving on the emergency land and it is also stuck and an ambulance needs to go through but cannot because of the all the inconsiderate drivers and that person dies because of the delay in getting through. Well I suppose these people will think that they or their loved ones would never be in an ambulance, ever. Maybe they think that they are 'protected' somehow by some magical forces and most likely they would never ever be in an ambulance but that is not the point is it?

The society will only progress when we stop blaming the wrong doer and start doing the right thing. How many of you will actually stop a queue jumper? How many of you will insist that a queue jumper will get punished? What have you done after someone jump queue infront of you other and complaining and cursing?

currymee
14-11-2011, 11:25 AM
Well, I am the one who will drive in the emergency lane to avoid traffic jam. I will teach my kid not to be so "square" on everything as well. Sometime right or wrong isn't that important (there are people going to war just because of right and wrong), what's working that is more important.

It is people like you who gets killed in traffic accidents that I don't feel any sympathy for ....

Just make sure when it happens, you ONLY KILL YOURSELF and not others ....

cml
14-11-2011, 11:28 AM
These are also the type of people who will go on a holiday and at the buffet breakfast whack all the pastries and ta pow to be eaten during lunch ( because the tours do not include lunch ). They dont feel that they have done anything wrong because they have paid for it??!! I just came back from a trip recently and saw with my own eyes . They whacked the whole tray of danish pastries without even batting an eyelid and put it into a plastic bag and into their large handbag!! Damn cheap and no class. Even my 9 year old son was asking me why people do that??

cml
14-11-2011, 11:32 AM
BTW if anyone jumps queue in front of me I will tell the fella off and it has happened a few times. Even my 9 year old son does that and he has done it to people who are more than a head taller than him. This is what we teach him and we walk the talk. So far no one has challenged me to a fight over their stupidity and inconsiderate behaviour and I would take their challenge if forced to. Maybe it is also because I am quite well built and I dont look like i will back off.

cml
14-11-2011, 11:37 AM
For your information when I drive and people jump queue i will block them and not let them jump infront of me. If they still want they would have to knock my car. If the car in front of me lets them i cannot say anything but as far as I am concerned I am very agressive in this respect. Again so far no one has crashed into my car to jump queue. And it does not matter if it is my own car or the company's car that I am driving. Same thing to me. Once a taxi driver got out of his car when i just refused to let him cut in and he started walking to my car. When he saw me , he walked back to his car and drove off. Maybe its my magnetic personality??!!

burntan
14-11-2011, 11:49 AM
Once a taxi driver got out of his car when i just refused to let him cut in and he started walking to my car. When he saw me , he walked back to his car and drove off. Maybe its my magnetic personality??!!

Maybe like you said, you are "well built". Last time there is a news reported that a road bully injured a little girl eye and cause her blind while fighting with her father. Now, do you still think it is worth it and wise to engage in fight with a road bully?

cml
14-11-2011, 11:58 AM
I do not go out looking for trouble but if it is something that is unavoidable then so be it. I will not use my family as a shield and if it is something that I have to do I will do it alone. Bullies are exactly what they are bullies. They will only bully if they know they can get away with it or they can win in a confrontation. If they know they cannot win they will not do it. They are bullies but they are not stupid. If they know they can get whacked they would not want to start the fight.

burntan
14-11-2011, 12:13 PM
I do not go out looking for trouble but if it is something that is unavoidable then so be it. I will not use my family as a shield and if it is something that I have to do I will do it alone. Bullies are exactly what they are bullies. They will only bully if they know they can get away with it or they can win in a confrontation. If they know they cannot win they will not do it. They are bullies but they are not stupid. If they know they can get whacked they would not want to start the fight.

We don't need a hero. You see, you are not there when some bullies bullying me. In real life the 0.1% hero won't make any different. Imagine not only you who get out and stop a queue jumper. Imagine not only your son who stood up for the queue jumper but the entire queue line..... Well, back to reality, it is still a queue jumper utopia.

currymee
14-11-2011, 12:16 PM
We don't need a hero. You see, you are not there when some bullies bullying me. In real life the 0.1% hero won't make any different. Imagine not only you who get out and stop a queue jumper. Imagine not only your son who stood up for the queue jumper but the entire queue line..... Well, back to reality, it is still a queue jumper utopia.

Just like if you cannot stop a single rapist/murderer in the country , then it is OK for you to go and RAPE and MURDER as well ? Beautiful LOGIC !! ;)

CHIN-CHAI :) , I let you win this argument Mr/Ms Burntan, please go and COMMIT ALL THE "CRIMES" you like ... ;) ... NO WORTH GETTING A BANANA because of your logic !! :D

burntan
14-11-2011, 12:34 PM
Just like if you cannot stop a single rapist/murderer in the country , then it is OK for you to go and RAPE and MURDER as well ? Beautiful LOGIC !! ;)

There is time and place, where people doing exactly that. When rapist/murderer can get away easily, you don't think people will do that?

DarkNite
14-11-2011, 12:58 PM
There is time and place, where people doing exactly that. When rapist/murderer can get away easily, you don't think people will do that?
.......duh!

kwchang
14-11-2011, 01:00 PM
I think all you flers that responded to burntan missed the point.

Burntan started off with this ...

Well, I am the one who will drive in the emergency lane to avoid traffic jam. I will teach my kid not to be so "square" on everything as well. Sometime right or wrong isn't that important (there are people going to war just because of right and wrong), what's working that is more important.
But then he also said this ...

The society will only progress when we stop blaming the wrong doer and start doing the right thing. How many of you will actually stop a queue jumper? How many of you will insist that a queue jumper will get punished? What have you done after someone jump queue infront of you other and complaining and cursing?

Did you not see his original instigation for comments by posting an obviously obnoxious comment to actually lead to the 2nd comment?

Aiyaaa, you flers think Burntan is so clueless as to state publicly that he will commit a felony just to be "street smart"? Cool it flers, don't get conned la. After so many years as a Mod on this forum, I think I can see thru a sarcasm when it is laid.

so just go back to the topic and forget this side-track

burntan
14-11-2011, 01:08 PM
I think all you flers that responded to burntan missed the point.

Burntan started off with this ...

But then he also said this ...


Did you not see his original instigation for comments by posting an obviously obnoxious comment to actually lead to the 2nd comment?

Aiyaaa, you flers think Burntan is so clueless as to state publicly that he will commit a felony just to be "street smart"? Cool it flers, don't get conned la. After so many years as a Mod on this forum, I think I can see thru a sarcasm when it is laid.

so just go back to the topic and forget this side-track

At last!! Someone not in the fighting mode. I am provoking thinking, not provoking arguing. Often people have a fixed mindset of what is right or wrong, but never question it why is it right or wrong.

kwchang
14-11-2011, 01:23 PM
In other threads on religion, people got fired up when their ideology of righteousness got tickled and get instigated to pronounce what they learnt about being "good".

I am not a religious man myself but I think I got the gist of the religious guidelines to life. Did any of the prophets and messiahs wage fights over an opposing opinion? I believe these teachers more likely turned the other cheek and continued to show the true pathway.... not by arguements BUT by example.

We are not prophets. messiahs or holy-men here (at least not myself) ... so we are mere mortals and tend to retaliate and the result is the fights we see aplenty (why is it Africa is full of waring tribes and the Middle East had no peace for millenia?)

If only we can agree to disagree and show the right of way (with no pushing and fighting) may we be really civilised. Are we civilised? Ask yourself

currymee
14-11-2011, 02:58 PM
At last!! Someone not in the fighting mode. I am provoking thinking, not provoking arguing. Often people have a fixed mindset of what is right or wrong, but never question it why is it right or wrong.

Let me see ... by definition:

PROVOKE - definition: to anger, enrage, exasperate, or vex (go look up a dictionary if you want to dispute this :p - I am using my son's simple Oxford KBSR UPSR Dictionary ... straight to the point no beating around the bush !)

Synonyms - irk, annoy, aggravate, exacerbate, infuriate.

Oh !! :eek: .. so, Burntan fancies himself/herself as an "agent provocateur" to PROVOKE people to think deeply ... so he/she is not just an ordinary forumer BUT a THINKING, THOUGHT-PROVOKING forumer - wow, SO KENG !! :rolleyes: ... hmmmm ... interesting .... Now I see, no wonder, he/she is in the thick of all the recent "thought-provoked" arguments in the forum .... ;)

Wah !! :eek: I am no match for you - I am just a happy go-lucky simple pleasant currymee-loving guy !! :D

cml
14-11-2011, 03:57 PM
I think that we should just ignore the fella. No need to get worked up with the antics of someone like that. It reminds me of the gerakan fella who awarded the penang state gomen a F for its performance when even the auditor general praised them for their good work. What to say to people like that? Another one would be the chinese fella who left his staunchly chinese family (whatever that means) to be a apple polisher.

cutebanana
14-11-2011, 04:34 PM
I guess (my personal opinion) that it is 'alright' to drive in the emergency lane when one is in an emergency. But how to define 'emergency' ? Missing flight, sending pregnant wife to hospital, elderly sick to hospital, etc. Common occurrence on our roads when someone that is not in an 'emergency' using the lane. I label these drivers stupid and also inconsiderate. Their action only endangers others and also jam up the emergency lane for the really in emergency. That is my 2 cents personal opinion.

burntan
14-11-2011, 04:41 PM
I guess (my personal opinion) that it is 'alright' to drive in the emergency lane when one is in an emergency. But how to define 'emergency' ? Missing flight, sending pregnant wife to hospital, elderly sick to hospital, etc. Common occurrence on our roads when someone that is not in an 'emergency' using the lane. I label these drivers stupid and also inconsiderate. Their action only endangers others and also jam up the emergency lane for the really in emergency. That is my 2 cents personal opinion.

Being late to pick up son from school consider emergency or not?

kwchang
14-11-2011, 04:52 PM
Amazing how many people know the rules of driving here.... the emergency lane is for you to stop over if you have a puncture for example. who said that left lane is meant for overtaking and moving up the queue? Drive on the emergency lane on a darkened highway and you could ram into a stationary lorry or bus that had broken down.

It is technically wrong to overtake on the left in a country where one drives on the left... you are supposed to overtake on the right and that is why the fast lane is on the right-most lane.

cutebanana
14-11-2011, 04:55 PM
Being late to pick up son from school consider emergency or not?

Sorry but my personal opinion is that 'being late to pick up son from school' cannot be considered an emergency in normal sense. There might be risk to son being kidnapped, school burned, bus accident, etc but these are just xxxx (my English not good enough to come up with the correct word) that cannot be xxxx. Again, these are my personal opinion.

FineTuned
14-11-2011, 04:56 PM
Begging your pardon honorable sirs, I always thought the emergency lane was meant for emergency stops such as when there is a vehicle break down or for vehicles to be temporarily towed to in case of accidents. It is not meant for traveling on in an `emergency'! It is very dangerous to drive on the emergency lane....you can see so many really bad/serious accidents are caused when people drive along the emergency lane.

Shucks, kwchang beat me to it....I'll just post my opinion anyways since I've typed it.

cutebanana
14-11-2011, 04:57 PM
Begging your pardon honorable sirs, I always thought the emergency lane was meant for emergency stops such as when there is a vehicle break down or for vehicles to be temporarily towed to in case of accidents. It is not meant for traveling on in an `emergency'! It is very dangerous to drive on the emergency lane....you can see so many really bad/serious accidents are caused when people drive along the emergency lane.

Shucks, kwchang beat me to it....I'll just post my opinion anyways since I've typed it.

Thanks for pointing this out.

currymee
14-11-2011, 04:57 PM
Amazing how many people know the rules of driving here.... the emergency lane is for you to stop over if you have a puncture for example. who said that left lane is meant for overtaking and moving up the queue? Drive on the emergency lane on a darkened highway and you could ram into a stationary lorry or bus that had broken down.

It is technically wrong to overtake on the left in a country where one drives on the left... you are supposed to overtake on the right and that is why the fast lane is on the right-most lane.

KWChang,

It is NOT that they don't know (unless their licences are the "kopi" type which I believe some forumers have no hesistation to pay as mentioned earlier to the police if caught !!) ... they just don't want to follow because it is NOT CONVENIENT for them to do so and their TIME IS VERY PRECIOUS and they are not "stupid" like the other law-abiding drivers .... basically it is an UNCIVIC SELFISH ATTITUDE !! :mad:

That makes them A DANGER AND HEALTH HAZARD to everyone else on the road ... whether you want to "provoke thoughts or not" - that is THE FACT !! A nutcase behind the wheels is A LETHAL WEAPON !!! :eek:
which is why I said :


It is people like you who gets killed in traffic accidents that I don't feel any sympathy for ....

Just make sure when it happens, you ONLY KILL YOURSELF and not others ....

cutebanana
14-11-2011, 04:58 PM
Amazing how many people know the rules of driving here.... the emergency lane is for you to stop over if you have a puncture for example. who said that left lane is meant for overtaking and moving up the queue? Drive on the emergency lane on a darkened highway and you could ram into a stationary lorry or bus that had broken down.

It is technically wrong to overtake on the left in a country where one drives on the left... you are supposed to overtake on the right and that is why the fast lane is on the right-most lane.

Thanks for pointing this out.

burntan
14-11-2011, 05:06 PM
KWChang,

It is NOT that they don't know (unless their licences are the "kopi" type which I believe some forumers have no hesistation to pay as mentioned earlier to the police if caught !!) ... they just don't want to follow because it is NOT CONVENIENT for them to do so and their TIME IS VERY PRECIOUS and they are not "stupid" like the other law-abiding drivers .... basically it is an UNCIVIC SELFISH ATTITUDE !! :mad:

That makes them A DANGER AND HEALTH HAZARD to everyone else on the road ... whether you want to "provoke thoughts or not" - that is THE FACT !! A nutcase behind the wheels is A LETHAL WEAPON !!! :eek:

Whether you happy or not, people are still doing the same everyday. It is kind of a culture here.

currymee
14-11-2011, 05:14 PM
Whether you happy or not, people are still doing the same everyday. It is kind of a culture here.

Sad to say ....

Well, I wish them ACCIDENTS and hopefully be DEAD on the spot (just THEM and no one else) !!

It makes the world SAFER for others without such people. The civil society can do without such "inconsiderate", "irresponsible" and "selfish" people who ENDANGERS everyone else JUST FOR THEIR OWN CONVENIENCE.

OK, may be a BIT TOO HARSH by my standard .... ;)

JUST BAD ENOUGH ACCIDENT to give them a shock of their life, write off their cars completely should be a good therapy .... :D

Furthermore, JUST BECAUSE EVERY IDIOTIC DRIVER IS DOING IT, DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT OR ACCEPTABLE ....

Hope that PROVOKES SOME THOUGHTS .... :p

SiangMalam
15-11-2011, 09:44 AM
Whether you happy or not, people are still doing the same everyday. It is kind of a culture here.That is pathetic Burntan... U mean to stay ppl can"t and won't change? JUst because we hv done wrong continuously and we think it's OK? Sad attitude...

cml
15-11-2011, 10:05 AM
Lets just ignore the fella like we ignore the ridwan tee fella.

Rhiga
15-11-2011, 10:18 AM
SM, there are all sorts of life in this planet. I think somehow we just have to accept every life is different, genetically and intellectually..

Would like to share something about Sir Alex Ferguson..

I think everyone who interested in EPL will definitely know him. Actually, apart from his unrivalled achievement as a team manager in EPL, he is an expert in horses – horse-farming to produce raced horse.

I remember reading an article - someone asked his opinion about raced horse-farming. He said the key is gene i.e. the untainted origin of a particular breed is the most important factor and with good training then only the horse can be groomed to be a good raced horse. He reiterated no point wasting time on genetically inferior “bastard” as those breeds are untrainable, a sheer waste of time and money...

currymee
15-11-2011, 10:20 AM
Lets just ignore the fella like we ignore the ridwan tee fella.

Sometimes it is dangerous and wrong of us to ignore such persons due to their possible influences on others ... You may have to stem and "nip in the bud" in some cases .... judicious judgement is the key for the individual cases and scenario ... I don't profess to be right or holier-than-thou most of the times, I am also a human with all the 7 deadly sins flowing in my veins daily but there are some cases when RIGHT is RIGHT and WRONG is WRONG.

In this topic, I cannot let go despite my earlier desires to do so because CRAZY IRRESPONSIBLE DRIVING CAN KILL - it is DANGEROUS !! And for someone to "glorify their bravado and smugness in doing so" and say so what is wrong with that IF everyone is also doing it and will teach his kids to do so ... that is a bit too much to stomach even though it is HIS LIFE and HIS KIDS, so why should I be bothered ?

Well, I am BOTHERED because THAT SORT OF ATTITUDE may end up killing OTHER innocent persons. You want to die - go ahead, just go kill yourself BUT NOT OTHERS !!

But, if you want to dispute/argue about BEST currymee in town, then that one I can ignore lah, so long as I am not paying ... :p :p :p :D :D :D

Rhiga
15-11-2011, 10:30 AM
Sad to say ....

Well, I wish them ACCIDENTS and hopefully be DEAD on the spot (just THEM and no one else) !!

It makes the world SAFER for others without such people. The civil society can do without such "inconsiderate", "irresponsible" and "selfish" people who ENDANGERS everyone else JUST FOR THEIR OWN CONVENIENCE.

OK, may be a BIT TOO HARSH by my standard .... ;)

JUST BAD ENOUGH ACCIDENT to give them a shock of their life, write off their cars completely should be a good therapy .... :D

Furthermore, JUST BECAUSE EVERY IDIOTIC DRIVER IS DOING IT, DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT OR ACCEPTABLE ....

Hope that PROVOKES SOME THOUGHTS .... :p


Good one, bro..

I wonder when someone told his kids not to be “square” during traffic jam i.e. telling them to cut queue and drive on emergency lane, why not also tell his kids to steal ? Why be so “square” to spend money to buy, just steal them and there is always 0.1% of people who will steal...

I also wonder whether he asked his kids - why so square to study and work hard, there is always 0.1% of people who don’t need to study and work hard like robber, thief, conman, beggars, etc.

tupai
15-11-2011, 10:37 AM
i am a lover and certainly not a fighter...but then again, what the heck! :p

The last idiot driver i ever had the misfortune to meet had his big head jammed between the diver's door and the car body...after he being kneed and had his face received a knuckle sandwich :cool:

Damn! my muscles ached for a week for lack of practice on a long forgotten art. :cool:

anyway JUST dont play play with the wrong fella...I won't.
Same Advice given to the fairer sex too.

Yang Amat BerLovin' TIU xlatotupai :cool:

chookyan
15-11-2011, 10:46 AM
Sad to say ....

Well, I wish them ACCIDENTS and hopefully be DEAD on the spot (just THEM and no one else) !!

It makes the world SAFER for others without such people. The civil society can do without such "inconsiderate", "irresponsible" and "selfish" people who ENDANGERS everyone else JUST FOR THEIR OWN CONVENIENCE.

OK, may be a BIT TOO HARSH by my standard .... ;)

JUST BAD ENOUGH ACCIDENT to give them a shock of their life, write off their cars completely should be a good therapy .... :D

Furthermore, JUST BECAUSE EVERY IDIOTIC DRIVER IS DOING IT, DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT OR ACCEPTABLE ....

Hope that PROVOKES SOME THOUGHTS .... :p

Good one Mr. Currymee,

I really HOPE SOMEONE SMASH INTO MY DAMN NEIGHBOUR CAR and HELL WITH HIM and his FAT DAUGHTHER, both are the SAME. Always park their car almost in the middle the road everytime he is back to the extent even bang into me when I am parked in my own front gate. Told him off and he could not even be bothered to answer and just walk off, spoke to USJ8 police, police says nothing can be done, the most that can be done is a patrol car comes by and tell him to remove his damn car.

Protecting my turf now with big rocks and big potted plants so that the idiot don't invade into my border and he can continue to park in the middle of the road in his own half - wishing that a big vehicle smash into the idiot soon. :(

DarkNite
15-11-2011, 10:57 AM
... Told him off and he could not even be bothered to answer and just walk off, spoke to USJ8 police, police says nothing can be done, the most that can be done is a patrol car comes by and tell him to remove his damn car....
This is the Culture that has been culture for the last 50years!
Almost there is no consistent enforcement at all!
Tutup sata mata, semua nya ok! Hurrah for Bolehland, where the rich and powerful rulez!

SiangMalam
15-11-2011, 11:00 AM
I was on the Federal Highway yesterday night around 8.30pm from PJ Hilton towards Sunway Pyramid and it was raining. My buddy was driving a MyVi and we were in a hurry to pick up his iPad at Machines shop there.

We were on the left lane since we were turning left at the Sunway Flyover and as we were about to turn into the left to up to the Sunway Bridge, another car, an old Volvo 850 just drove straight towards Suabang Jaya. He was on the emergency lane on our left and my buddy, who was driving, told me he didn't see the car cause it was in the "blind spot" on his left...

So an accident was averted as we were just driving at perhaps 50kmph. Imagine if it was raining heavier and vision was bad....

Some idiots just refuse to learn or obey the rules. I wish that even if they don't give 2 hoots to the safety of other drivers, at least think about the little kids in their own car... Or the old people in the car coz all it takes is an impact at 60kmh to kill eor maim these kids and old folks with very fragile bones... :mad:

burntan
15-11-2011, 11:11 AM
Good one Mr. Currymee,

I really HOPE SOMEONE SMASH INTO MY DAMN NEIGHBOUR CAR and HELL WITH HIM and his FAT DAUGHTHER, both are the SAME. Always park their car almost in the middle the road everytime he is back to the extent even bang into me when I am parked in my own front gate. Told him off and he could not even be bothered to answer and just walk off, spoke to USJ8 police, police says nothing can be done, the most that can be done is a patrol car comes by and tell him to remove his damn car.

Protecting my turf now with big rocks and big potted plants so that the idiot don't invade into my border and he can continue to park in the middle of the road in his own half - wishing that a big vehicle smash into the idiot soon. :(

Do you aware that the road outside of your front gate is not belong to you? It is a public place. Unless they park their car in such a way that will block your entrance, or else there is nothing wrong, legally speaking.

burntan
15-11-2011, 11:17 AM
I still remember there is a forumer here proudly said that his behavior on the road is only related to God, police and himself. :cool:

burntan
15-11-2011, 11:23 AM
That is pathetic Burntan... U mean to stay ppl can"t and won't change? JUst because we hv done wrong continuously and we think it's OK? Sad attitude...

Yeah, a culture will change but it will take some time. Mean while, would you sell moon cake in South Africa? I mean, the culture is not there yet.

SiangMalam
15-11-2011, 11:42 AM
Do you aware that the road outside of your front gate is not belong to you? It is a public place. Unless they park their car in such a way that will block your entrance, or else there is nothing wrong, legally speaking.The road in front of our houses are gazetted council roads but that doesn't mean we as residents do not give due consideration, public consciousness or be ethical by parking our vehicles haphazardly. Only inconsiderate fools think it's free-for-all situation.

SiangMalam
15-11-2011, 11:47 AM
Yeah, a culture will change but it will take some time. Mean while, would you sell moon cake in South Africa? I mean, the culture is not there yet.Don't worry brother, it might have been 54 years under the rule of Barisan but changes are imminent, sorry about that!
:D

jan tomaswaki
15-11-2011, 11:50 AM
This is the Culture that has been culture for the last 50years!
Almost there is no consistent enforcement at all!
Tutup sata mata, semua nya ok! Hurrah for Bolehland, where the rich and powerful rulez!
The problem with rakyat is everything in M'sia BOLEH...but when visiting the neighbouring country,scared like s##t.

burntan
15-11-2011, 11:58 AM
The road in front of our houses are gazetted council roads but that doesn't mean we as residents do not give due consideration, public consciousness or be ethical by parking our vehicles haphazardly. Only inconsiderate fools think it's free-for-all situation.

Yup, 100% agree, but some just don't get it, they scratch your car paint and release your tyre air, just because you park your car over their line. Some even put some pot there to fence up.

DarkNite
15-11-2011, 12:10 PM
Yeah, a culture will change but it will take some time. Mean while, would you sell moon cake in South Africa? I mean, the culture is not there yet.
Wrong analogy used, as there are moon cakes being sold the last time I happen to be in Johannesburg. :D

DarkNite
15-11-2011, 12:13 PM
The problem with rakyat is everything in M'sia BOLEH...but when visiting the neighbouring country,scared like s##t.
That's cos they know neighbouring country has enforcement & NOT like Bolehland where everything can be 'kow tim'.

chookyan
15-11-2011, 12:27 PM
Yup, 100% agree, but some just don't get it, they scratch your car paint and release your tyre air, just because you park your car over their line. Some even put some pot there to fence up.

Burntan,
You are right legally speaking! But imagine an idiot staying next to you parking his car partically RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ALL THE TIME that makes extremely difficult for you to turn in and out of your own house and also for 2 cars to pass by. Since two cars cannot pass by it creates a traffic jam during the morning and evening peak hours.

This picture tells all (We are the green car), imagine waking up in the morning and this is what your idiot neighbour has done and don't even answer you when confronted and PDRM says nothing can be done! :mad:

palmdoc
15-11-2011, 01:08 PM
and in this video starring Subang Jaya drivers, you'll learn how to do a double-U turn!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CceWFKRWujQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

burntan
15-11-2011, 01:28 PM
Burntan,
You are right legally speaking! But imagine an idiot staying next to you parking his car partically RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ALL THE TIME that makes extremely difficult for you to turn in and out of your own house and also for 2 cars to pass by. Since two cars cannot pass by it creates a traffic jam during the morning and evening peak hours.

This picture tells all (We are the green car), imagine waking up in the morning and this is what your idiot neighbour has done and don't even answer you when confronted and PDRM says nothing can be done! :mad:

Sometime we need to forget about right and wrong. Try buy them some chocolate, fruits, visit their house and be friendly, see will it solve the problem or not?

burntan
15-11-2011, 01:30 PM
Wrong analogy used, as there are moon cakes being sold the last time I happen to be in Johannesburg. :D

Yeah, sorry for the wrong example used, forgot that every corner of the Earth got chinese staying.

Rhiga
15-11-2011, 01:31 PM
and in this video starring Subang Jaya drivers, you'll learn how to do a double-U turn!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CceWFKRWujQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Yup, I saw an accident just in front of me last Wed at this junction..

An illegal double u-turn Honda Civic was knocked by a legitimate u-turn Proton, I was two cars behind this Proton..

Looking at the pathetic face of the Honda driver, it made my day on last Wed… :p :rolleyes:

burntan
15-11-2011, 01:37 PM
Yup, I saw an accident just in front of me last Wed at this junction..

An illegal double u-turn Honda Civic was knocked by a legitimate u-turn Proton, I was two cars behind this Proton..

Looking at the pathetic face of the Honda driver, it made my day on last Wed… :p :rolleyes:

This turn does not even allow u-turn isn't it? There is no u-turn sign there.

jan tomaswaki
15-11-2011, 01:45 PM
This turn does not even allow u-turn isn't it? There is no u-turn sign there.
This u-turn was because Vampire was close to traffic ;)

jan tomaswaki
15-11-2011, 01:47 PM
That's cos they know neighbouring country has enforcement & NOT like Bolehland where everything can be 'kow tim'.
Somehow or rather every Malaysians have been "kow tim" or can be "kow tim" :D

currymee
15-11-2011, 01:50 PM
This u-turn was because Vampire was close to traffic ;)

EMPIRE has Re-OPENED today - saw the advertisement in the toilet/Star newspaper today :p

The U-turn has been there for donkey years for people coming from the SJMC side to U-turn into Carrefour ....


This turn does not even allow u-turn isn't it? There is no u-turn sign there.

BTW, the junction in question is in FRONT OF CARREFOUR, and it is a LEGAL U-TURN and there is a U-turn sign in front of the traffic lights, in the video, it was partially hidden by the lamp-post .... people who simply drive as if it is their grandfather's road and don't follow traffic rules, will not know lah .... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

currymee
15-11-2011, 01:52 PM
Somehow or rather every Malaysians have been "kow tim" or can be "kow tim" :D

Not true ....

It is a CHOICE, to be or not to be .... :) that is what differs man from animals ... man act on CHOICE while animals on instinct ....

chookyan
15-11-2011, 02:10 PM
Sometime we need to forget about right and wrong. Try buy them some chocolate, fruits, visit their house and be friendly, see will it solve the problem or not?

Burntan,

If you are not in that position, it is easy to say! We have tried many times and ways in getting to know them. Smiling at them u name it we have so why should I waste $$$$ buying them chocolate or fruits. Simple courtesy in parking car also DON'T HAVE, you tell me how to nice, I don't have a clue!!! Visting them out of the question cos only comes back past midnight and out early morning or come back many times in a day and out again within 0.5 hour 24 7. House unkept as well. BTW a old bald n fat man stays there with a young lady. Relationship unknown! :o

burntan
15-11-2011, 02:29 PM
Burntan,

If you are not in that position, it is easy to say! We have tried many times and ways in getting to know them. Smiling at them u name it we have so why should I waste $$$$ buying them chocolate or fruits. Simple courtesy in parking car also DON'T HAVE, you tell me how to nice, I don't have a clue!!! Visting them out of the question cos only comes back past midnight and out early morning or come back many times in a day and out again within 0.5 hour 24 7. House unkept as well. BTW a old bald n fat man stays there with a young lady. Relationship unknown! :o

That's why I said forget about right or wrong. You are absolutely right, why waste money to buy things for those inconsider idiot like that? The answer is simple, you want them to park accordingly. This is what I called "mind control".

currymee
15-11-2011, 03:34 PM
Chookyan,

I feel sorry for you to have neighbours like that ....

(JUST KIDDING - for the suggestion below :rolleyes: ) :p

Next time before you go on a LONG FAMILY HOLIDAY, go rent cheap cheap a LORRY HANTU (those massive ugly looking gravel carrying one), and PARK in front of your house just nicely encroaching into the neighbours pathway by a few inches enough to make parking and driving in and out HELL .... :D

Message delivered LOUD AND CLEAR ... OH, BTW don't wash the lorry at all !! :p

(JUST KIDDING) :p

Blue Jasmine
15-11-2011, 05:06 PM
my 2 cents why malaysian driver stupid..

could it be cause of corruption. u see how we get the driving license? Duit kopi??? then u see those P and L...after u see somemore.
make illegal U turn...Jpj saw...then duit kopi again ma.
everything can kaw tim use duit kopi what for want practice ethical and safe driving manners. Cause we are malaysian.

And i dont really want to pissed anyone but honestly if you are malaysian then you are a real stupid driver. Sorry to say this. I think we cannot blame 1 or 2 or maybe a few drivers. Malaysian just have this type of attitude. Even if we are ethical on highway we may double park just awhile outside the bank just to bank in a cheque. Or how about causing jam just because is raining and you cant afford your kids to get wet because u scared he/she may fall sick and then...bla bla bla.

and those banks are always next to each other..like SS 15 one whole row...and taipan. Blame who? the business operators or the customers?or blame some stupid drivers? Blame Malaysian la...because we are Malaysia Boleh!!!

aursong
15-11-2011, 05:15 PM
my 2 cents why malaysian driver stupid..

could it be cause of corruption.

mother of all cause...
lack of enforcements...

currymee
15-11-2011, 05:15 PM
my 2 cents why malaysian driver stupid..

could it be cause of corruption. u see how we get the driving license? Duit kopi??? then u see those P and L...after u see somemore.
make illegal U turn...Jpj saw...then duit kopi again ma.
everything can kaw tim use duit kopi what for want practice ethical and safe driving manners. Cause we are malaysian.

And i dont really want to pissed anyone but honestly if you are malaysian then you are a real stupid driver. Sorry to say this. I think we cannot blame 1 or 2 or maybe a few drivers. Malaysian just have this type of attitude. Even if we are ethical on highway we may double park just awhile outside the bank just to bank in a cheque. Or how about causing jam just because is raining and you cant afford your kids to get wet because u scared he/she may fall sick and then...bla bla bla.

and those banks are always next to each other..like SS 15 one whole row...and taipan. Blame who? the business operators or the customers?or blame some stupid drivers? Blame Malaysian la...because we are Malaysia Boleh!!!

Sad to say as a Malaysian but this is a fact ....

That is WHY MALAYSIAN DRIVING LICENCE is no longer "valid" or "accepted" for direct exchange/acceptance into many countries driving licence.

Whenever I leave Malaysia, the first thing I bring along is my UK Driving Licence - pay and pass once, valid until I am 78 years old !! :D :D - next best licence in the world to get is Singaporean - viewed with similar "status" as UK ones in the eyes of many enforcement agencies worldwide - NON CORRUPTIBLE - NO KOPI LESEN - if you pass, you really pass and deserve it !! :D

patrick
15-11-2011, 06:08 PM
mother of all cause...
lack of enforcements...

I couldnt agree with you more. You look at all problems in our land...boil down to the lack of this..... corruption, accidents (especially buses and heavy vehicles... always we will siasat....what else???? ), road offences, cars heavily tinted, cars with halogen light, bikers with no helmet and no light, drivers on their mobiles etc etc.. Hey, what is so difficult to nab a car with heavy tinting??? All around town lah ! Just stand at the corner of Taipan and can issue dozens of summons everyday !! But all we hear is talk, talk, talk.....action mana????? Signs of a failed state !! :mad: :mad: :mad:

chookyan
15-11-2011, 07:48 PM
Chookyan,

I feel sorry for you to have neighbours like that ....

(JUST KIDDING - for the suggestion below :rolleyes: ) :p

Next time before you go on a LONG FAMILY HOLIDAY, go rent cheap cheap a LORRY HANTU (those massive ugly looking gravel carrying one), and PARK in front of your house just nicely encroaching into the neighbours pathway by a few inches enough to make parking and driving in and out HELL .... :D

Message delivered LOUD AND CLEAR ... OH, BTW don't wash the lorry at all !! :p

(JUST KIDDING) :p

Tailo Curryme,

TQ TQ for your support. I will seriously consider your suggestion. Any jalan to rent a lorry hantu. :D If not for the rather beautiful garden I built outside, I would have done something serious long time ago. But again we got brains and better things to do then just go and scratch his bloody car.

DarkNite
15-11-2011, 09:34 PM
mother of all cause...
lack of FAIR & CONSISTENT enforcements...
Corrected.

bslee
15-11-2011, 11:04 PM
Signs of a failed state !! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Much of the rakyat are ALSO to blame for a failed state, because of worse behaviour and mentality!...civilized konon! :cool:
Being civilized and act civilized are 2 different meanings.
Tengok apa jadi at highest office in the land...lu tengok lah!

cml
16-11-2011, 11:10 AM
If we see the people who are 'running' the government act and behave like what they do can we blame anyone but ourselves for electing these idots/blood suckers.

SiangMalam
16-11-2011, 01:57 PM
If we see the people who are 'running' the government act and behave like what they do can we blame anyone but ourselves for electing these idots/blood suckers.Fitnah! I will file police report against you this after 3pm at Dang Wangi Police Station. You think you live in Kuching you can get away by FITNAH us innocent work-like-hell-for-the-rakyat politicians, you just wait!

cml
16-11-2011, 02:11 PM
ya I am quivering, not because of fear but because it is so cold in the 'reflexology' joint!!!. Ha3!!