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CS Chua
30-07-2011, 10:41 AM
I am planting ixora plant as a hedge. Basically there are 3 types: fast growing, slow growing and very slow growing. The size of the leaves will tell you which is what. The big leaves grow very fast. I chose the 2nd variety so that I do not have to prune it frequently. However, after 18 months it is about 2 feet only. I think I need to put fertilisers to help it grow faster.

Does anyone know what is a suitable fertilizer for this plant? I am using chicken dung currently but it does not seem to work well.

Naka
30-07-2011, 12:03 PM
We slow-release pellets.

During growing season use liquid fertilizer.

CS Chua
30-07-2011, 01:00 PM
What is growing season?

Dervish
31-07-2011, 12:08 PM
Chua, I recommend this fertilizer.

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=487829&postcount=162

It works wonders for me. One baskin robbin teaspoon every two weeks consistently and my ixora bloomed and bloomed. Mine is the small variety and pink.

Even my rose of the dessert bloomed prolifically after I consistently apply that fertilizer. Azaleas as well.

Not orchids though. Orchids need 101

Naka
31-07-2011, 04:13 PM
What is growing season?

Oh, I was referring to spring to summer.

But in Boleh, it's any day :D

CS Chua
31-07-2011, 09:54 PM
Chua, I recommend this fertilizer.

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=487829&postcount=162

It works wonders for me. One baskin robbin teaspoon every two weeks consistently and my ixora bloomed and bloomed. Mine is the small variety and pink.

Even my rose of the dessert bloomed prolifically after I consistently apply that fertilizer. Azaleas as well.

Not orchids though. Orchids need 101
Hey, thanks. I will try it. Hopefully it will help my plants to grow fast so that I can have some privacy. Otherwise I will have to build a concrete wall which costs RM10K!!

CS Chua
01-08-2011, 05:40 PM
Chua, I recommend this fertilizer.

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=487829&postcount=162

It works wonders for me. One baskin robbin teaspoon every two weeks consistently and my ixora bloomed and bloomed. Mine is the small variety and pink.

Even my rose of the dessert bloomed prolifically after I consistently apply that fertilizer. Azaleas as well.

Not orchids though. Orchids need 101
How much for the whole thingy?

RolyPoly
01-08-2011, 06:34 PM
Vermicompost fertilizers that I got from CETDEM's Hari Organik cost RM10 for 3-4 packets (about 400gm each). Some place sell it at RM9 for a packet of 500gm. You can also check out the Pasar Tani at Shah Alam Stadium on Sunday morning. This fertilizer is also available there.

How much do you pay for yours, VP?

CS Chua
02-08-2011, 09:17 AM
Vermicompost fertilizers that I got from CETDEM's Hari Organik cost RM10 for 3-4 packets (about 400gm each). Some place sell it at RM9 for a packet of 500gm. You can also check out the Pasar Tani at Shah Alam Stadium on Sunday morning. This fertilizer is also available there.

How much do you pay for yours, VP?
Costs more than my chicken dung. I bought a 20 kilo bag for almost RM30, I think.

RolyPoly
02-08-2011, 08:58 PM
Costs more than my chicken dung. I bought a 20 kilo bag for almost RM30, I think.

That's very cheap. Only RM1.50/kg.

I paid RM18 for a 5kg goat dung fertilizer and thought that's cheap! Do you mind sharing where you got your fertilizer? How long does it take you to finish up the 20kg?

CS Chua
02-08-2011, 09:50 PM
That's very cheap. Only RM1.50/kg.

I paid RM18 for a 5kg goat dung fertilizer and thought that's cheap! Do you mind sharing where you got your fertilizer? How long does it take you to finish up the 20kg?
Sg Buloh. Apparently there are different chicken dung. The less smelly one is more expensive. The very smelly ones are the cheapest. Every time I open the gunny sack, I have to exhale and inhale..and hold until I scoop a bowl... and still holding my breathe .... quickly tie up the gunny sack ...still holding my breathe ... and then walk quickly 5 feet away before I breathe again. Phew. It really stinks. I have not been using it regularly because apparently it is not so good for Ixora or other plants. Fu Kwai Faa needs other type of fertilizer. So, I am using it for my mango tree and other potted plants. I am in the 2nd sack after 18 months.

Dervish
03-08-2011, 10:35 AM
Hey, thanks. I will try it. Hopefully it will help my plants to grow fast so that I can have some privacy. Otherwise I will have to build a concrete wall which costs RM10K!!
Ixora for the fencing? Wouldn't it be too thick? They'll take a long time to grow tall enough, like 5 feet? They attract squirrels too.

My hedge was formally planted with tea leaves. Bad idea. They attract aphids and itches if you accidentally brush against them while trimming the hedge. I am replacing them with jasmines. Jasmines are hardy, easily maintained and trainable. The birds thought I might consider a "Ching Li Xiang" as part of my hedge so I obliged. Another bad idea. The shrubs grows thick as did its trunk. They are not trainable and are also high maintenance. I think I'll stick with the jasmines.

Friend of mine used bougainvillea.

Dervish
03-08-2011, 10:45 AM
How much for the whole thingy?
Mine came in 1 kg packing. They are packed 25 to a box. I bought 5 boxes the last time and I got them cheap though I can't remember how cheap.

There's a phone number there. Call them for a quotation. If you buy in bulk, they give you WS price.

From what I understand, vermicompost came in different composition, hence different price. High humus content will cost more. The cheaper ones available at night markets are mixed with soil. Friend of mine went for those and noticed the difference.

This particular vermicompost I'm using are "powered" by foreigners. Authentic South African earthworms. You can visit their factory. Seeing is believing, or so they say... :D

Dervish
03-08-2011, 10:51 AM
Chua, what about your pillars? Some people cover their pillars with poison ivy. I am considering that. Any advice or thought?

CS Chua
03-08-2011, 12:03 PM
Ixora for the fencing? Wouldn't it be too thick? They'll take a long time to grow tall enough, like 5 feet? They attract squirrels too.

My hedge was formally planted with tea leaves. Bad idea. They attract aphids and itches if you accidentally brush against them while trimming the hedge. I am replacing them with jasmines. Jasmines are hardy, easily maintained and trainable. The birds thought I might consider a "Ching Li Xiang" as part of my hedge so I obliged. Another bad idea. The shrubs grows thick as did its trunk. They are not trainable and are also high maintenance. I think I'll stick with the jasmines.

Friend of mine used bougainvillea.
Yes, it will take a long time to grow and hence, I need to try your "wonderful powder" like Chef Wan will say. :D Squirrels? Aiyoh, they come to my garden everyday to play and to eat. I think I may have to build a home for them soon. Anyway I chose ixora because of low maintenance and whole year around flowers. I went round many house to see the type of hedges and decided on ixora. And I have yellow, orange, red, white and pink ixora. But somehow, the orange and red are doing better than the other colors.

CS Chua
03-08-2011, 12:03 PM
Mine came in 1 kg packing. They are packed 25 to a box. I bought 5 boxes the last time and I got them cheap though I can't remember how cheap.

There's a phone number there. Call them for a quotation. If you buy in bulk, they give you WS price.

From what I understand, vermicompost came in different composition, hence different price. High humus content will cost more. The cheaper ones available at night markets are mixed with soil. Friend of mine went for those and noticed the difference.

This particular vermicompost I'm using are "powered" by foreigners. Authentic South African earthworms. You can visit their factory. Seeing is believing, or so they say... :D
OK, will call them.

CS Chua
03-08-2011, 12:06 PM
Chua, what about your pillars? Some people cover their pillars with poison ivy. I am considering that. Any advice or thought?
Pillars? Mine is currently the chain link fence and the ixora will be covering it up completely, providing it a strong hold. Poison ivy? Sounds scary. I do not know much about it. Any children around? If so, is poison ivy OK around children?

Dervish
03-08-2011, 12:21 PM
Anyway I chose ixora because of low maintenance and whole year around flowers. I went round many house to see the type of hedges and decided on ixora. And I have yellow, orange, red, white and pink ixora. But somehow, the orange and red are doing better than the other colors.
I won't be surprised if eventually you end up with only the orange and red ones. These are more hardy.

I prefer jasmines since they're trainable. I insert them into and out of the chain links so eventually, you won't see the fencing. Then when the stems get thick, you can pluck them out and turn them into bonsai.

Dervish
03-08-2011, 12:24 PM
Pillars? Mine is currently the chain link fence and the ixora will be covering it up completely, providing it a strong hold. Poison ivy? Sounds scary. I do not know much about it. Any children around? If so, is poison ivy OK around children?
Sorry, I meant the gate post. I don't know if poison ivy are OK with children around. Waiting for more feedbacks from others.

Dervish
03-08-2011, 12:25 PM
BTW Chua, your avatar looks like a star gate. :D:D Don't tell me! Ancient Alien fan? :p

CS Chua
03-08-2011, 06:32 PM
BTW Chua, your avatar looks like a star gate. :D:D Don't tell me! Ancient Alien fan? :p
No lah. That is the first thing you see when you reach the peak of Mt Sinai. Stone steps lead to the peak of Mt. Sinai (Jebel Musa) and are called the "steps of penitence." At the top is the "Arch of St. Stephen," a sixth-century symbolic gate that leads to the sacred area on the peak of Mt. Sinai. The hermitage of Prophet Elijah is in the vicinity.

This is to remind me of my trip.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp99/majesticforest/gate.jpg

CS Chua
03-08-2011, 06:37 PM
Sorry, I meant the gate post. I don't know if poison ivy are OK with children around. Waiting for more feedbacks from others.
Well, I was thinking of something else for the gate and side walls as mine is a corner house. I have seen a number of houses letting creepers or a type of plant to grow on the walls. It practically covers the whole wall but apparently it does not spoil the wall. You can see that in SS14. It makes the house looks like an English cottage. Still thinking about it.

Dervish
03-08-2011, 07:13 PM
No lah. That is the first thing you see when you reach the peak of Mt Sinai. Stone steps lead to the peak of Mt. Sinai (Jebel Musa) and are called the "steps of penitence." At the top is the "Arch of St. Stephen," a sixth-century symbolic gate that leads to the sacred area on the peak of Mt. Sinai. The hermitage of Prophet Elijah is in the vicinity.

This is to remind me of my trip.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp99/majesticforest/gate.jpg
Mt Sinai? Is that the one where Moses went up to get the Ten Commandments engraved on stone tablets? You've been to interesting places, Chua. Any photos?

Dervish
03-08-2011, 07:17 PM
Well, I was thinking of something else for the gate and side walls as mine is a corner house. I have seen a number of houses letting creepers or a type of plant to grow on the walls. It practically covers the whole wall but apparently it does not spoil the wall. You can see that in SS14. It makes the house looks like an English cottage. Still thinking about it.
That's the one I'm talking about, Chua. The creepers are called poison ivy. Small green leaves which gives the house an English cottage look. You see lots of those in Cameron Highlands.

Friend of mine thinks that the root of these creepers eats into the concrete and weakens the gate-posts or walls.

I was hoping to get a second opinion here from someone who already had those creepers on their walls.

Don't know about the "poison" part though.

RolyPoly
03-08-2011, 08:14 PM
Sg Buloh. Apparently there are different chicken dung. The less smelly one is more expensive. The very smelly ones are the cheapest. Every time I open the gunny sack, I have to exhale and inhale..and hold until I scoop a bowl... and still holding my breathe .... quickly tie up the gunny sack ...still holding my breathe ... and then walk quickly 5 feet away before I breathe again. Phew. It really stinks. I have not been using it regularly because apparently it is not so good for Ixora or other plants. Fu Kwai Faa needs other type of fertilizer. So, I am using it for my mango tree and other potted plants. I am in the 2nd sack after 18 months.


Ha ha...I also dislike the stinky smell of chicken dung. The stink would linger in the garden for a couple of days after application. My family members would complain and we would keep our door close as the stink would linger into the hall.

However, chicken dung has the highest NPK composition, compared to other fertilizers. I have seen how effective it works on Adenium (Fu Gui Hua) that my friend grew. The plant has so many blooms!

RolyPoly
03-08-2011, 08:18 PM
Mine came in 1 kg packing. They are packed 25 to a box. I bought 5 boxes the last time and I got them cheap though I can't remember how cheap.

There's a phone number there. Call them for a quotation. If you buy in bulk, they give you WS price.

From what I understand, vermicompost came in different composition, hence different price. High humus content will cost more. The cheaper ones available at night markets are mixed with soil. Friend of mine went for those and noticed the difference.

This particular vermicompost I'm using are "powered" by foreigners. Authentic South African earthworms. You can visit their factory. Seeing is believing, or so they say... :D

VP, I took down the tel contact no. from the label you posted. Will check with them since the place is quite near to SJ. Will ask my gardening friends if they wanna share the box of vermicompost with me. Otherwise, it will take me ages to finish up 25kg of them. I once bought 10kg of fertilizers and it took me over a year to finish it as I only have a small garden.

Thx for the info about differing composition in fertilizers. I am not aware of this.

lady-o-leisure
04-08-2011, 01:49 AM
Hmm.. you all got me thinking. since i hv 2 chickens and loads of chook poop, i hv been cleaning out the poop and covering them up in a hole in one corner of the yard. Does this mean i can go dig it back up and use it for the plants?

Oh.. one more thing, has anyone tried keeping a compost box of earthworms and feeding them with all the daily veggie trimmings etc.. and letting them poop so u can use the poop to fertilize the yard? I saw that on a show about being environmentally friendly. Seems they place the box of worms in the corner of the kitchen or some place, and feed them with all the unwanted veggie peels/trimmings. They produce poop that is transferred to plants later.

CS Chua
04-08-2011, 12:42 PM
Hmm.. you all got me thinking. since i hv 2 chickens and loads of chook poop, i hv been cleaning out the poop and covering them up in a hole in one corner of the yard. Does this mean i can go dig it back up and use it for the plants?

Oh.. one more thing, has anyone tried keeping a compost box of earthworms and feeding them with all the daily veggie trimmings etc.. and letting them poop so u can use the poop to fertilize the yard? I saw that on a show about being environmentally friendly. Seems they place the box of worms in the corner of the kitchen or some place, and feed them with all the unwanted veggie peels/trimmings. They produce poop that is transferred to plants later.
Sounds like what my daughter does. She keeps earth worm farm as a hobby. They are placed in a glass container and can be viewed through the side. Yuck.

CS Chua
04-08-2011, 12:42 PM
That's the one I'm talking about, Chua. The creepers are called poison ivy. Small green leaves which gives the house an English cottage look. You see lots of those in Cameron Highlands.

Friend of mine thinks that the root of these creepers eats into the concrete and weakens the gate-posts or walls.

I was hoping to get a second opinion here from someone who already had those creepers on their walls.

Don't know about the "poison" part though.
My wife said it is not called poison ivy. When I go to SS14 next, I will drop by those houses and asked them.

CS Chua
04-08-2011, 12:43 PM
Mt Sinai? Is that the one where Moses went up to get the Ten Commandments engraved on stone tablets? You've been to interesting places, Chua. Any photos?
Plenty but it should be posted at the photography section. Let me look for the old photos.

Dervish
04-08-2011, 02:31 PM
Ha ha...I also dislike the stinky smell of chicken dung. The stink would linger in the garden for a couple of days after application. My family members would complain and we would keep our door close as the stink would linger into the hall.

However, chicken dung has the highest NPK composition, compared to other fertilizers. I have seen how effective it works on Adenium (Fu Gui Hua) that my friend grew. The plant has so many blooms!
There's this old lady in my neighborhood who plants AMAZING vegetables outside her house on the small strip of land belonging to the council. I often stop by to strike up a conversation with her mainly asking her for tips and such.

She told me she was a professor from a China university who migrated during the communist era to farm in Taiping.

We discussed fertilizers, among other things. Her advice is "Never use kambing dung!" even the imported sheep dung. Why? Because the sheep dung contains weed seedlings.

She recommended chicken dung. :) I only use these sparingly for obvious reasons.

Dervish
04-08-2011, 02:42 PM
Hmm.. you all got me thinking. since i hv 2 chickens and loads of chook poop, i hv been cleaning out the poop and covering them up in a hole in one corner of the yard. Does this mean i can go dig it back up and use it for the plants?
Can. But take it easy or you'll kill your plants. You need to lower their waste composition. Mix them up with soil and garden refuge for a while. Some people recommend at least three months. I wouldn't know. :)


Oh.. one more thing, has anyone tried keeping a compost box of earthworms and feeding them with all the daily veggie trimmings etc.. and letting them poop so u can use the poop to fertilize the yard? I saw that on a show about being environmentally friendly. Seems they place the box of worms in the corner of the kitchen or some place, and feed them with all the unwanted veggie peels/trimmings. They produce poop that is transferred to plants later.
That vermicompost I was telling Chua about? That's what they did. Very messy affair. I would prefer my earthworms to keep their distance. Mind you, I have lots of inquisitive, nosy ones under my lawn and they're terribly fond of exploring outside their habitat.

Dervish
04-08-2011, 02:46 PM
My wife said it is not called poison ivy. When I go to SS14 next, I will drop by those houses and asked them.
You are probably right. I just googled "poison ivy" and they looked different from the ones I had in mind.

Whatever you learned about the creepers, please update me as I am also interested.

Note: Please inquire if the roots of said creeper weakens the gate posts or walls, whether it attracts pests of any kind, and especially if the saps are toxic.

Dervish
04-08-2011, 02:46 PM
Plenty but it should be posted at the photography section. Let me look for the old photos.
Please do. I am so looking forward to seeing the photos. :)

CS Chua
04-08-2011, 08:45 PM
Please do. I am so looking forward to seeing the photos. :)
Posted already.

CS Chua
04-08-2011, 08:49 PM
Hmm.. you all got me thinking. since i hv 2 chickens and loads of chook poop, i hv been cleaning out the poop and covering them up in a hole in one corner of the yard. Does this mean i can go dig it back up and use it for the plants?

Oh.. one more thing, has anyone tried keeping a compost box of earthworms and feeding them with all the daily veggie trimmings etc.. and letting them poop so u can use the poop to fertilize the yard? I saw that on a show about being environmentally friendly. Seems they place the box of worms in the corner of the kitchen or some place, and feed them with all the unwanted veggie peels/trimmings. They produce poop that is transferred to plants later.
You got home chicken rearing in CA? I thought they will be strict there. Now, you can have chicken for Christmas instead of turkey.

RolyPoly
06-08-2011, 01:17 PM
Hmm.. you all got me thinking. since i hv 2 chickens and loads of chook poop, i hv been cleaning out the poop and covering them up in a hole in one corner of the yard. Does this mean i can go dig it back up and use it for the plants?

Oh.. one more thing, has anyone tried keeping a compost box of earthworms and feeding them with all the daily veggie trimmings etc.. and letting them poop so u can use the poop to fertilize the yard? I saw that on a show about being environmentally friendly. Seems they place the box of worms in the corner of the kitchen or some place, and feed them with all the unwanted veggie peels/trimmings. They produce poop that is transferred to plants later.

Be careful not to use fresh chicken dung. The heat of fresh ones can burn your plants to death. Like what VP said, you have to keep them with some soil for sometime first.

CS Chua
26-08-2011, 07:54 PM
I have now been told that chicken dung is not good for my ixora plants. Apparently the red fertilizers for blooming flower is the best. Another friend, an avid gardener also told me just to buy the red fertilizers for all fruit and flower plants. Well, I still got 20 kilos of chicken dung to go and a few kilos of this and that to finish. Sigh.

Dervish
29-08-2011, 12:23 PM
One man's poison is another man's meat. :D My friend swears by chicken dung and I swear by vermi-compost. :p

Naka
30-08-2011, 07:49 AM
"Blood and Bone" fertilizers is very popular. I bot 2 x 1 kg pack at half price recently

RolyPoly
31-08-2011, 03:31 PM
"Blood and Bone" fertilizers is very popular. I bot 2 x 1 kg pack at half price recently

I read in gardening blogs that the blood and bone fertilizer boost plants to bloom. I have yet to come across this fertilizer yet.

RolyPoly
31-08-2011, 03:39 PM
Chua, don't despair. You can get the red blooming fertilizer for a packet at less than RM5. Buy the powder type where you dilute a teaspoon with 2 litres of water. It takes me a looooong time to finish a packet. No need to buy 20kg. Will take you years to finish it.

I spray this concoction on the leaves of my stubborn miniature ixora 4-5 times a week, at night (or early morning). My ixora is now blooming profusely. I got the plant from my friend and it has not bloom for over a year. This fertilizer also works well with my plumeria tree. It has been blooming non-stop since Chinese New Year. When I bought it, there was no bloom for over 1.5 year.

So these days, I use this fertilizer on all my plants with bloom. On top of that, I also add goat dung fertilizer on the soil.

If you buy the pellet red fertilizer, be careful not to place it too near the stalk of the plant. It may burn the plant. Just scatter a bit further.

:D

CS Chua
31-08-2011, 03:58 PM
Chua, don't despair. You can get the red blooming fertilizer for a packet at less than RM5. Buy the powder type where you dilute a teaspoon with 2 litres of water. It takes me a looooong time to finish a packet. No need to buy 20kg. Will take you years to finish it.

I spray this concoction on the leaves of my stubborn miniature ixora 4-5 times a week, at night (or early morning). My ixora is now blooming profusely. I got the plant from my friend and it has not bloom for over a year. This fertilizer also works well with my plumeria tree. It has been blooming non-stop since Chinese New Year. When I bought it, there was no bloom for over 1.5 year.

So these days, I use this fertilizer on all my plants with bloom. On top of that, I also add goat dung fertilizer on the soil.

If you buy the pellet red fertilizer, be careful not to place it too near the stalk of the plant. It may burn the plant. Just scatter a bit further.

:D
Hey, thanks. I was deciding whether to build a concrete wall or not. Will cost me RM10K. But if the ixora plants grow faster I will be happy to keep it as a hedge. I got the red pellet ones. I did not know they have powder type. I have not seen it around. I will look for it. And thanks for letting me know about not putting near the stalks because I tend to do that. And after putting the fertilizer, one must water it immediately.

And btw, a gardener told me never to water the plant at night. At night, they sleep and their roots get moist and diseases come easier. Always water in the morning because they are ready to enjoy the sun and would want water then. In the afternoon, it is OK too. Sounds logical to me.

Naka
31-08-2011, 06:29 PM
I read in gardening blogs that the blood and bone fertilizer boost plants to bloom. I have yet to come across this fertilizer yet.


If you come across one, buy 1 & try.

Dervish
02-09-2011, 10:37 AM
"Blood and Bone" fertilizers is very popular. I bot 2 x 1 kg pack at half price recently
Wasn't this the one Coleslaw recommended to Goodguy for bougainvillea? I remembered that this was mentioned in the gardening thread. I'll check and revert ... later.

Dervish
02-09-2011, 10:39 AM
I read in gardening blogs that the blood and bone fertilizer boost plants to bloom. I have yet to come across this fertilizer yet.
Coleslaw recommended this to Goodguy in the Gardening thread. I remembered reading about it. This fertilizer had a name and it starts with "M". I'll check and revert ... later

Dervish
02-09-2011, 10:44 AM
Hey, thanks. I was deciding whether to build a concrete wall or not. Will cost me RM10K. But if the ixora plants grow faster I will be happy to keep it as a hedge. I got the red pellet ones. I did not know they have powder type. I have not seen it around. I will look for it. And thanks for letting me know about not putting near the stalks because I tend to do that. And after putting the fertilizer, one must water it immediately.

And btw, a gardener told me never to water the plant at night. At night, they sleep and their roots get moist and diseases come easier. Always water in the morning because they are ready to enjoy the sun and would want water then. In the afternoon, it is OK too. Sounds logical to me.
From what I understand it is NOT OK to water in the afternoon. You will scorch the roots to death. I was guilty of this in the past and killed many a plant.

As for whether or not night watering is good, it very much depends on the individual plant's need.

Dervish
02-09-2011, 10:52 AM
RP ~~~ I found the link.

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=487719&postcount=158

This link is at the Gardening thread. Read from Post No: 158. Coleslaw described the fertilizer and what it's good for.

RolyPoly
05-09-2011, 08:06 PM
Thanks VP for the info.

RolyPoly
05-09-2011, 08:23 PM
From what I understand it is NOT OK to water in the afternoon. You will scorch the roots to death. I was guilty of this in the past and killed many a plant.

As for whether or not night watering is good, it very much depends on the individual plant's need.

I concur with VP. Watering plants in the afternoon is a no-no. More so when the tap water is also scorching hot, especially so in our current hot weather.

As for watering at nite, it's not suitable for plants who don't like wet feet. I noticed this happened to my Keladi Belang below. It was as healthy as the picture below. But after too often of watering at nite, the leaves turn lighter yellow and has a tinge of 'jaundice' on them! I am trying to heal it back to normal by reducing my watering. If that doesn't help, I may have to resort to repotting it. I love the foliage of this plant and the attractive patterns on the leaves.

<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qNhQubfKZ3OJ78uFLgR-sg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gzkFVuigRy4/TmS7TSA5JQI/AAAAAAAAC_0/1dUT2zasRf0/s800/Keladi%252520Belang%252520%252528Araceae%252529.jp g" height="383" width="590" /></a>

CS Chua
06-09-2011, 12:13 PM
Chua, don't despair. You can get the red blooming fertilizer for a packet at less than RM5. Buy the powder type where you dilute a teaspoon with 2 litres of water. It takes me a looooong time to finish a packet. No need to buy 20kg. Will take you years to finish it.

I spray this concoction on the leaves of my stubborn miniature ixora 4-5 times a week, at night (or early morning). My ixora is now blooming profusely. I got the plant from my friend and it has not bloom for over a year. This fertilizer also works well with my plumeria tree. It has been blooming non-stop since Chinese New Year. When I bought it, there was no bloom for over 1.5 year.

So these days, I use this fertilizer on all my plants with bloom. On top of that, I also add goat dung fertilizer on the soil.

If you buy the pellet red fertilizer, be careful not to place it too near the stalk of the plant. It may burn the plant. Just scatter a bit further.

:D
Fertilised 75 ixora plants yesterday and today with the red thingy. :) Will wait for 2 weeks to see effect. I am sure it helps because my friend said same thing too.

CS Chua
06-09-2011, 12:15 PM
I concur with VP. Watering plants in the afternoon is a no-no. More so when the tap water is also scorching hot, especially so in our current hot weather.

As for watering at nite, it's not suitable for plants who don't like wet feet. I noticed this happened to my Keladi Belang below. It was as healthy as the picture below. But after too often of watering at nite, the leaves turn lighter yellow and has a tinge of 'jaundice' on them! I am trying to heal it back to normal by reducing my watering. If that doesn't help, I may have to resort to repotting it. I love the foliage of this plant and the attractive patterns on the leaves.

On the internet, there are a number of articles that said it is not good but yet there are those who said it is OK to water in the afternoon. Both got their reasons. Hmmmmm....

Mainly, the water evaporates so fast it is a waste of water. But it does not burn the plant.

RolyPoly
08-09-2011, 10:56 PM
Fertilised 75 ixora plants yesterday and today with the red thingy. :) Will wait for 2 weeks to see effect. I am sure it helps because my friend said same thing too.

Hope it works for you! And if all your 75 ixora plants bloom...oh.la..la....your garden will look fantastic!! Do remember to photograph them for us! :p

CS Chua
09-09-2011, 11:38 AM
Hope it works for you! And if all your 75 ixora plants bloom...oh.la..la....your garden will look fantastic!! Do remember to photograph them for us! :p
Actually there are many flowers but I am griping because it is not growing up very fast so that I get my hedge. Right now everyone can see through the chain link fence. It has been 18 months but only 2 ft tall (went out to measure.) So another 3 feet to go up.

Anyway another friend ask me to put pesticide as that can be a cause of the problem. So did that 3 days ago too.

RolyPoly
10-09-2011, 03:53 PM
As promised, these are photos of my miniature Ixora. Used to be green all over. I sprayed the liquid fertilizer on it and now the side sprayed is showing blooms.

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CS Chua
10-09-2011, 11:16 PM
Very beautiful. I was told that yellow and white are very hard to grow. The red and orange are more hardy. This is true. I bought 20 plants of each color: red, orange, pink, white, and yellow. Only the red and orange are growing well. Most of the white except one are gone. A few pink and yellow left but not doing so well.

RolyPoly
11-09-2011, 08:54 PM
Thanks, Chua.

This is the first pot of Ixora plant that I have grown. It's not easy to take care of them. They almost died under my care. I wasn't certain whether it needs lotsa water or less. Overwatering, the leaves dropped. Underwatering, the same effect. So these days, I only water once in the evening. And I hide them at a lower spot, shaded by bigger plants. It seems to like this spot. But I was told that Ixora needs hot, sunny weather for it to produce blooms. This is true coz during the recent hot spells, I noticed many Ixora hedges producing big, bright blooms.

Naka
12-09-2011, 05:04 AM
Liquid fertilisers can be very effective & I do use it as well

Dervish
14-09-2011, 07:05 PM
Thanks, Chua.

This is the first pot of Ixora plant that I have grown. It's not easy to take care of them. They almost died under my care. I wasn't certain whether it needs lotsa water or less. Overwatering, the leaves dropped. Underwatering, the same effect. So these days, I only water once in the evening. And I hide them at a lower spot, shaded by bigger plants. It seems to like this spot. But I was told that Ixora needs hot, sunny weather for it to produce blooms. This is true coz during the recent hot spells, I noticed many Ixora hedges producing big, bright blooms.
Yes, it is true that Ixora loves the sun. I was told that the different colored varieties should not be planted near each other. Something to do with competition. A neighbor of mine planted yellow, pink, white, red, orange along the curb outside his house. The whites/yellows/pinks looked feeble while the red/orange looked robust. Maybe there's some truth about the "competition".

Mine are pink ones. They're looking happy with the occasional pruning. Pruning brings out the blooms, I was told. I watered mine twice a day. Sometimes I forget. :o As for fertilizers, they pretty much take in every types. So sometimes I threw in the vermi-composts, sometimes the red types, sometimes the blacks. (meant for bonsais) Every fortnight.

Seemed quite easy to take care of. Maybe the yellow/white ones are different. I have no experience with those.

And yes, RP yours is looking good. :D I plant mine into the ground.

CS Chua
17-09-2011, 05:41 PM
Hope it works for you! And if all your 75 ixora plants bloom...oh.la..la....your garden will look fantastic!! Do remember to photograph them for us! :p
Came back after one week away and noted that the plants have grown much taller!! Even the yellow color plants look better. Maybe I should fertilise them frequently.

RolyPoly
19-09-2011, 07:34 PM
Thanks, VP.

Chua, just be careful with the fertilizing. Don't overdo lest you may end up with stunted or wilted plant..ha ha...

CS Chua
20-09-2011, 09:08 AM
Thanks, VP.

Chua, just be careful with the fertilizing. Don't overdo lest you may end up with stunted or wilted plant..ha ha...
I learnt that the other day when I went to Sg Buloh to buy a sour sop plant for my garden. He told me to put fertilizer on one corner only and not to sprinkle them all over the plant. He showed me their potted plants and true enough, the fertilizer was not all over the pot. Only on one side of the pot.

Then he told me a very interesting idea. Place a 3 inch pipe 2 feet into the ground, about 2 feet from the plant. Throw all the fish heads, chicken intestines, etc into the pipe. Then cover the top so that the smell will not get out and to keep away the flies. The side of the pipe should be drilled to allow the kitchen waste to leak out. Sounds interesting. I think I will try that.

Dervish
21-09-2011, 01:45 PM
Then he told me a very interesting idea. Place a 3 inch pipe 2 feet into the ground, about 2 feet from the plant. Throw all the fish heads, chicken intestines, etc into the pipe. Then cover the top so that the smell will not get out and to keep away the flies. The side of the pipe should be drilled to allow the kitchen waste to leak out. Sounds interesting. I think I will try that.
A brilliant idea!

Naka
21-09-2011, 02:30 PM
An excellent idea indeed

RolyPoly
21-09-2011, 04:17 PM
How interesting! Worth sharing with my gardening buddies!

I also use water from washing fish to water my plant. Think that's rich in nutrients too.

coleslaw
21-09-2011, 04:25 PM
Then he told me a very interesting idea. Place a 3 inch pipe 2 feet into the ground, about 2 feet from the plant. Throw all the fish heads, chicken intestines, etc into the pipe. Then cover the top so that the smell will not get out and to keep away the flies. The side of the pipe should be drilled to allow the kitchen waste to leak out. Sounds interesting. I think I will try that.
you could be attracting lots of red ants..before you know it..colonies!

my late dad used to do something similar for his roses..you should see the blooms..truly magnificent..
but red ants galore! :(

CS Chua
21-09-2011, 09:49 PM
Now that I got some attention (LOA) I should mention that it is recommended for these kitchen waste to be put in at night. If it is done during the day, it will smell. Apparently, the cooler temperature at night helps.

Secondly, do only one pipe. I said I will do 3 pipes and he laughingly said the plant will suffer. Plants are like humans and they can overeat so only one pipe and the roots will know how to find it. Interesting.

CS Chua
21-09-2011, 10:22 PM
you could be attracting lots of red ants..before you know it..colonies!

my late dad used to do something similar for his roses..you should see the blooms..truly magnificent..
but red ants galore! :(
My mango tree has tons of red ants with so many ant nests but after spraying them with the pesticide, it is gone. The pesticide is white in color when mixed with water. Very smelly but very effective. A gardener friend said it is a must have as many plants fail to flower or fruit because of pests.

Dervish
22-09-2011, 08:31 PM
you could be attracting lots of red ants..before you know it..colonies!

my late dad used to do something similar for his roses..you should see the blooms..truly magnificent..
but red ants galore! :(
Ants are such a menace. I have all sorts in my garden ranging from the giant ones to the itty bitty ones. Any idea how to exterminate them?

RolyPoly
22-09-2011, 10:47 PM
you could be attracting lots of red ants..before you know it..colonies!

my late dad used to do something similar for his roses..you should see the blooms..truly magnificent..
but red ants galore! :(

Coleslaw, recently I discovered many huge red ants on my herbs patch. This is where I use the water from washing fishes and rice to water my plants. I recently found them on my Thai basil too! Just seeing those ants, I have goose bumps!! Their stings would certainly hurt a lot. Reading your post, the water from washing fish may be a possible cause of the ants presence. :eek:

CS Chua
23-09-2011, 12:17 PM
Coleslaw, recently I discovered many huge red ants on my herbs patch. This is where I use the water from washing fishes and rice to water my plants. I recently found them on my Thai basil too! Just seeing those ants, I have goose bumps!! Their stings would certainly hurt a lot. Reading your post, the water from washing fish may be a possible cause of the ants presence. :eek:
Aiyah, cannot do like that lah. Open waste will attract ants and flies. Even the smell alone attracts the flies. Better do the feeding pipe and pour it in.

CS Chua
27-10-2011, 04:44 PM
After putting twice the red color fertilizer the ixora plants have grown substantially. The flowers did not though but I am not worried because I prefer fast growth instead of flowers at this stage. I hope they get to 5 feet soon.

Anyone knows how often to put the red color fertilizer? I think it is for encouraging flowers. Once a month? or once in 2 months?

Dervish
28-10-2011, 02:01 PM
I fertilize my plants once every fortnight (1-2 teaspoonful depending on size of plant), orchids every week (liquid fertilizer).

I was told that fertilizing should be done in the morning.

RolyPoly
28-10-2011, 10:48 PM
Aiyah, cannot do like that lah. Open waste will attract ants and flies. Even the smell alone attracts the flies. Better do the feeding pipe and pour it in.

I only dispose the water used to defrost the fish onto my plants. Not the gills, scales or stomach etc. The rats would come if I throw the parts. I have rats visiting my backyard. :(

RolyPoly
28-10-2011, 11:04 PM
After putting twice the red color fertilizer the ixora plants have grown substantially. The flowers did not though but I am not worried because I prefer fast growth instead of flowers at this stage. I hope they get to 5 feet soon.

Anyone knows how often to put the red color fertilizer? I think it is for encouraging flowers. Once a month? or once in 2 months?

For growth, you should be applying the green fertilizer. Red is for flowering.
Check out the NPK value on your fertilizer.

N: Nitrogen ~ increases the leaf & root growth.
P: Phosphorus ~ stimulates root development
K: Potassium ~ stimulates flowereing

Select the fertilizer based on your requirement.
Some fertilizers have 21:21:21 indicated. It means equal ratio of NPK.

Here's a flowering fertilizer with high Potassium ratio that I used to boost flowering. Care must be taken not to scatter these fertilizers too near to the stalk. It will burn the plant. So gotta scatter these around the plant.

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