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zinglicious
24-07-2011, 01:55 PM
Ai yo yo - it is gonna to be Bio yo yo metric sistem where monies is gonna to be "invested" by Najib to make sure voting is fair and square in the incoming dacing pole. :confused: http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsindex.php?id=603268

fonzie
24-07-2011, 04:19 PM
It's not so simple as that......saying the system would be in place...

Where is the SOP on this thingy..? Every detail of it. Read this article for better understanding....

http://malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=16381:biometric-system-another-bn-sting-to-delay-the-bersih-reforms&Itemid=2

Cheers!

zinglicious
24-07-2011, 04:54 PM
From Udang disebalik batu, this is Undi disebalik BN.
Unless there is something wrong with indelible ink as a form of electoral stain to prevent electoral fraud, you can jump the gun to use Biometric.
This can be actually Biometrick where it can be programmed into multi tricks with a few mouse clicks. If they can wipe off the Mongollian entries in and out of Malaysia entries. ther is also tendency of creating multiple phantom of the opera.
BTW. what's wrong with indelible ink anyway? :confused:

zinglicious
26-07-2011, 03:55 AM
Mother of all horrors, it will be implemented by EC in the upcoming GE!!! :eek: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/7/25/nation/20110725175826&sec=nation
There goes our millions of ringgits to some lucky Baginda kontraktor fellas who is supplying bio- me -trick machines where it is gonna to be used once in every 5 years. :p
The Biometric have had scanning problems during its usage among the trained officers at the immigrationat the implementation, what about some hired hands who are scanning it once every 5 years? And how about the high tech fraud with some hired geeks who can multiply votes by a few clicks on the mickey mouse? :rolleyes:
BTW, the Yell ow did not demand for Bio - Me -Trick, they just asked for a simple inexpensive indelible ink marker. :mad:

fonzie
26-07-2011, 09:57 PM
I just wants to pick the brains of people in the political fraternity on this scenario....you guys are the experts. Enlighten us plebians...

My understanding of the voting process is as such.....

Without biometric system in place (present situation).
1. Voter A present Mykad at his/her constituency.
2. SPR personnel checks against electoral roll.
3. Verified correct (announcing the name for the contesting candidates' reps info etc).
4. Draw a line across the name.
5. Hands voting slip to voter A.

With biomnetric system in place.....how is the sequence of verification...?
It is very important that every voter knows the sequence in black and white so that everybody can look out for discrepancies/procedural violations when the next GE comes around. I think this is only natural and fair.

The EC chief said, in a forum recently, that the biometric system would be the “best way” to solve the problems concerning the current electoral roll. Through fingerprint scans, no two persons will have the same biometry. When it is ready, the biometric system will be matched with 12 million registered voters,” he said.

Taking his explanations, I now pick the brains of people in the political fraternity in relation to these questions:-

1. Can voter A present his myKad in two or more voting centres ( different constituencies even). Get his fingerprint verified and then be eligible to vote?
2. Is the paper electoral roll still be in use in conjunction with the biometric scanner?
3. How is the database of 12 million voters (securely) streamed to each and every voting station?
4. How is the electoral roll verified so that there are no "double entries"?

These may be far-fetched questions ( there may be more questions others may have). However, I think you experts out there may like to share your views..I think there is need for a SOP for this and every EC personnel, voter, politiican etc should know exactly how it works....

Cheers!

ivanhow
26-07-2011, 10:10 PM
Ai yo yo - it is gonna to be Bio yo yo metric sistem where monies is gonna to be "invested" by Najib to make sure voting is fair and square in the incoming dacing pole. :confused: http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsindex.php?id=603268
Buy a-yo meh? Trick!!!
The buy yo-yo meh trick queue wud be running from the polling station around town like a snake long due to crawly slow slow some canot be verified by the thumb prints. Ai yoyo!! :eek:

USJ27Resident
27-07-2011, 12:36 AM
Stupid - just plain stupid... anyone heard the IT term G.I.G.O ( well - that refers for: Garbage In Garbage Out !!!) get a whiz programmer and you will be able to vote multiple times, esp places where there is NO online verification and whatnot... EC thinks all places got Fibre Optics and Unifi etc etc.... :rolleyes:

They just don't want to listen becoz they think we're ALL STUPID :mad:

One freaking bottle of ink... and the voter CANNOT vote again... and that ONE BOTTLE can mark at least 500-1000 VOTERS... Run out of INK - just use a PERMANENT INK MARKER PEN - that black DOT would stay for at least a few hours....

EC - mebbe these fellas never been to a discotheque BEFORE... how the heck do they identify DISCO patrons that has ALREADY PAID their entrance... simple UV stamp for the day (nite) and everybody happy...

BODOH punya kerja.... imagine setting up a freaking thumbprint scanner

zinglicious
27-07-2011, 12:59 AM
BODOH punya kerja.... imagine setting up a freaking thumbprint scanner

MAS - Mesti Ada Saudara supplying the thumbprint scanner . Imagine, Kaya Punya Tender. :rolleyes:

fonzie
27-07-2011, 09:16 AM
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EC - mebbe these fellas never been to a discotheque BEFORE... how the heck do they identify DISCO patrons that has ALREADY PAID their entrance... simple UV stamp for the day (nite) and everybody happy...

BODOH punya kerja.... imagine setting up a freaking thumbprint scanner

No one send them on a visit sambil belajar to disneyland......;)-

Cheers!

zinglicious
27-07-2011, 10:41 AM
Simply, because it is lawatan sambil belanja!
How can you belajar when your wifey, kids, maids, girlfriends are brought along? :p

USJ27Resident
30-07-2011, 01:25 AM
hmmmm.... suddenly - sure as hell makes you wonder, why the Elections Commission is [suddenly] so keen/adamant about Biometrics for the next election!? :confused: Nothing else - NOT even the cheap ink thingy...

Could it have anything to do with the current Immigration's MANDATORY Biometrics Registration of all FOREIGN workers (Legal or otherwise?) :rolleyes:

When you think of it (1 + 1 = :mad: ) it is sure as hell could give the EC an extra database for additional "voters"..... AT THE STUPID TAXPAYERS EXPENSE! :mad: :mad:

zinglicious
30-07-2011, 02:31 AM
It is called foreign banking reserves. :eek:

zinglicious
01-08-2011, 08:59 PM
A paradox of space pen and indelible ink by SinChew. http://www.mysinchew.com/node/61281

zinglicious
02-08-2011, 10:08 AM
If the immigration bionic officers cannot even handle 2 million immigrants registration, how could EC which comprised of non professional and uniformed bionic staff conduct the election with 11 million voters in a single pooling day? :p :p :p http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/8/2/nation/9220139&sec=nation
Biometric? it is oredi Buy Yo Yo Metrick where scores of the machine supplied to the agents is malfunction. Submarine that cannot submerge, now Biometrick machines is unreadale. :p :p :p
What say you , EC chairman ? :p :p :p

USJ27Resident
02-08-2011, 10:23 AM
What say you , EC chairman ? :p :p :p

He got NO say la.... :rolleyes:

"Orang atasan" say use - he use la... then on voting day (plausible) - not IF but WHEN the system/reader (whatever) cocks up, you can say "bye bye" to your vote la... blame the machine, not the EC, not the polling station, not the checkers... just the machine!

Imagine ie 25,000+ voters coming online for verification to vote: and presto - after 2 hrs... machine kaput or database offline.... come to think of it, you get the whole country accessing a server/database at the same time and any server would experience a DoS situation/failure....any IT nerd will know this!!!! Only in Bolehland.... :mad:

*the irony of things - is that ordinary citizens like you and me, can see right thru the scheme(scam) but these IDIOTS in charge couldn't care less.... much less bat an eyelid....

zinglicious
02-08-2011, 10:49 AM
I am sure he got the say how many units of Bio Yo Yo machines is gonna to supply to which approved and total number of agents nationwide for GE13. :rolleyes:
When the damn Bio Yo Yo Metrick machines dont work on the polling day - "Act of God" or "Wind Factor" would be the likely explanation of the Bolehman.

cml
02-08-2011, 10:52 AM
They cant even get the registration machines to work. Got election can hold it over two weeks?

zinglicious
11-08-2011, 01:26 PM
Buy Yo Yo meter tampered with during amnesty for the illegal immigrant processing programme. http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/8/11/nation/9278626&sec=nation

cml
11-08-2011, 01:48 PM
Thats what happens when you have mentally challenged people running these operations.