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zinglicious
12-07-2011, 04:50 PM
Mainstream media said hospitals were not hit http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/7/12/nation/9081786&sec=nationbut video footage said otherwise but CSL said the picture dont tell you the real story.http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/police-doing-their-job-at-tung-shin-says-soi-lek/

jimmyay
12-07-2011, 05:06 PM
One say did not shoot into hospital, another said shoot to protect the hospital....how?

Henry T
12-07-2011, 05:20 PM
Mainstream media said hospitals were not hit http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/7/12/nation/9081786&sec=nationbut video footage said otherwise but CSL said the picture dont tell you the real story.http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/police-doing-their-job-at-tung-shin-says-soi-lek/


Really? But CSL's video did tell a lot. Graphically too. :D

zinglicious
12-07-2011, 05:26 PM
Both of the videos up close at hospital last saturday and personal at the hotel previous year has had caught him with the pants down. ;)
He was man enough to own up that he was him at the hotel but why is he tikus to own up the authenticity of the video footage which is clean and not out of focus? :confused:

mick123
12-07-2011, 05:28 PM
Lolz~........what a comparison with the politician face very angry. As if the alternative media can ask the tear gas and water canon to change their path.......what a bunch of jokers :mad:

Ditto
12-07-2011, 05:28 PM
“Pictures may not convey the total picture, depending on the angle the picture is shot,” Ah Lek said

So tell us what's the total picture from that infamous video of urs, what angle huh? :D

zinglicious
12-07-2011, 05:45 PM
Tung Shi Hospital = wide angle shot. :)
Johor Bahru Hotel = up close & personal. ;)

SiangMalam
13-07-2011, 12:17 AM
Don't get sued for malice - get the facts right, its Batu Pahat hotel, there was no incident in a Johor Bahru hotel.

tupai
13-07-2011, 12:45 AM
looks like tungshin. smokes like tung shin. but its not tong shin...
korek korek korek! :D

zinglicious
13-07-2011, 02:07 AM
Don't get sued for malice - get the facts right, its Batu Pahat hotel, there was no incident in a Johor Bahru hotel.

You are right. TQ. So it is Batu Pahat Hotel, somewhere over in Johor. ;)
Cant remember it well as the olde mean chef is getting older and RAM getting fuzzy. :o

clfoo
13-07-2011, 02:47 AM
when u tell 1 lie need another 10 lies to cover up n pull everyone to hell ...
angle, wind konon, insaf-lah soiled leg dan rakan-rakan, so this is hot air (http://youtu.be/2R7B0Yn_ioA) not tear gas?
also here (http://youtu.be/gIa9_4AojlU)

next that heath sinister will say it is for denggi control pulak :o

burntan
13-07-2011, 08:21 AM
Who care what this dirty old man say?

Ditto
13-07-2011, 08:25 AM
when u tell 1 lie need another 10 lies to cover up n pull everyone to hell ...
angle, wind konon, insaf-lah soiled leg dan rakan-rakan, so this is hot air (http://youtu.be/2R7B0Yn_ioA) not tear gas?
also here (http://youtu.be/gIa9_4AojlU)

next that heath sinister will say it is for denggi control pulak :o

Thanks for the links. The second video was taken by ur truly ;)

USJ27Resident
13-07-2011, 09:30 AM
what is weird is... even with all the photos/Youtube videos - the Tung Shin hospital directors are also saying that NO TEAR GAS/WATER CANNON was fired/sprayed on Tung Shin.... :confused:

Pelik tapi Benar.... Hmmmmm.... makes you wonder what is going on... eh!?

Perhaps what they meant was, that the Police did not TEAR GAS or WATER CANNONED the hospital building itself... but as for the hospital compound, hospital carpark, hospital entrance - these are PUBLIC AREAS - therefore not in consideration... :rolleyes: BETUL TAK!? BETULLLLLL.... !!

I still cannot believe that these people (Police chiefs, IGP, Ministers, Politicians etc etc) can actually LIE (without blinking an eyelid) that this and other allegations DID NOT happen when there are so much photographic and video evidence... :mad:

currymee
13-07-2011, 09:33 AM
All a matter of DEFINITION - maybe in their little minds, HOSPITAL = WARDS & THEATRES (inside of building) - any space OUTSIDE is called "OUTSIDE" :p :p .... JOKERS !!!! :mad:

cml
13-07-2011, 10:07 AM
So it is all a misunderstanding. The actual situation was that no tear gas was fired into the hospital building. The water canon was used to clean the walls of the hospital building. The minister say since the building looks old have to give it a new coat of paint. We are doing it all for the rakyat. Unfortunately there were some rioters who happened to be there when we wanted to bersihkan the walls so the only way to get them to move was to give them some fresh air and it was all done in good faith.

burntan
13-07-2011, 10:26 AM
what is weird is... even with all the photos/Youtube videos - the Tung Shin hospital directors are also saying that NO TEAR GAS/WATER CANNON was fired/sprayed on Tung Shin.... :confused:

Please don't blame the hospital directors, what can they do? the hospital is operate under the jurisdiction of health department and the minister of health already shaking their hand (or what can I say, holding them in hand) while having the press conference.

Really, please don't blame those poor guys, I would do the same if I am in their positiion, after all the survival of the hospital will do more good than not.

bzjude
13-07-2011, 10:36 AM
As per Star yesterday, Tung Shin President reported that the hospital remained untouched by tear gas and that it did not come into direct contact with water cannon spray nor was there any collateral damage.

So, my take is that, he did not directly deny that the hospital was in actual fact fired upon. Just that there was no damage; this after meeting the Health Minister. Kita bukan buta, nor are we bodoh.. :rolleyes:

Rhiga
13-07-2011, 11:13 AM
Tung Shin Hospital was founded as a charitable organization and it is still now.

I think it is unfair to blast those who run the hospital – they still want the hospital to exist to continue the noble mission and they know what hell they will get if they say no to the authority.

Bar council have released an official statement yesterday that they confirmed tear gas and water canon was directed to the hospital - from video, photo and from the feedback of their own observers. This is good defense to counter the statement from the health sinister in international media.

Blast the MTFC health sinister but then again his last name ended with lai/lie.. what else can you expect… :mad:

Jokee
13-07-2011, 11:57 AM
I was there and you can bet it happened. Not from hearsay but from my own eyes but that time my eyes a bit watery and also wearing glasses so perhaps GOD is playing tricks on my eyes. Wait a minute, what has my eyes got to do with GOD. There is no proof that he created my eyes. :D

zinglicious
13-07-2011, 01:47 PM
what is weird is... even with all the photos/Youtube videos - the Tung Shin hospital directors are also saying that NO TEAR GAS/WATER CANNON was fired/sprayed on Tung Shin.... :confused:

Pelik tapi Benar.... Hmmmmm.... makes you wonder what is going on... eh!?

Perhaps what they meant was, that the Police did not TEAR GAS or WATER CANNONED the hospital building itself... but as for the hospital compound, hospital carpark, hospital entrance - these are PUBLIC AREAS - therefore not in consideration... :rolleyes: BETUL TAK!? BETULLLLLL.... !!

I still cannot believe that these people (Police chiefs, IGP, Ministers, Politicians etc etc) can actually LIE (without blinking an eyelid) that this and other allegations DID NOT happen when there are so much photographic and video evidence... :mad:

So did flamboyant President Clinton in the grand jury when he testified and said the infamous words - " I did not have sex with that woman " ( it was just a job she did for me ). :rolleyes:

Car park, compound and entrance is not the hospital. The hospital is - where you are lying on the table while we cut you up in the operating theater. No water and no gas was found there, right? :rolleyes:

cml
13-07-2011, 02:42 PM
next time they come round trying to shake your hands and getting you to vote for them, just tung shin them!! shake their hands and say tung shin!!

tictactoe
13-07-2011, 03:17 PM
Wonder why they still deny that it happened? No one above 3 years old can be that stupid. Are they trying to bring someone down? I mean it's the year 2011 for goodness sake they must know the mountain of evidence that exist. I mean politicians lie but only if they think they can get away with it. But in this case it's impossible! So why deny?

SiangMalam
13-07-2011, 03:25 PM
next time they come round trying to shake your hands and getting you to vote for them, just tung shin them!! shake their hands and say tung shin!!
Don't ever think CSL is polished ya Ming, he will Tung Shin you back, he also "**** your mother and your sister too" to someone who tweeted him... This fella is capable of vulgarities.... :D

concern!!!
13-07-2011, 11:05 PM
Tung Shin Hospital was founded as a charitable organization and it is still now.

I think it is unfair to blast those who run the hospital – they still want the hospital to exist to continue the noble mission and they know what hell they will get if they say no to the authority.

Bar council have released an official statement yesterday that they confirmed tear gas and water canon was directed to the hospital - from video, photo and from the feedback of their own observers. This is good defense to counter the statement from the health sinister in international media.

Blast the MTFC health sinister but then again his last name ended with lai/lie.. what else can you expect… :mad:

yes .. it was founded as a charitable org .. but i heard a story saying that the hospital account went deficit and health minister has gave some amount to the hospital .. therefore you should know what is the next ... lol

VeeJay
13-07-2011, 11:16 PM
No worries, there are some good doctors indeed, who did their citizen duty on coming out with a statement, bravo to them! :)

Read http://malaysiakini.com/news/169861

VeeJay
14-07-2011, 01:09 AM
Detailed list of brave doctors here
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/doctors-say-cops-fired-tear-gas-into-tung-shin-compound/

ivanhow
14-07-2011, 02:39 AM
Can anyone recognise this place?
http://blog.limkitsiang.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/ts-300x225.jpg

burntan
14-07-2011, 08:04 AM
Haha... for those who feel uneasy to hear the directors of the hospital telling fairy tales while being "holding hand" by our health minister, here come a good news: -

11 doctors from Tung Shin hospital issue a press release saying that they can testify the police did fire tear gas and water canon into the compound of the hospital.

Source: http://www.merdekareview.com/news/n/19230.html

currymee
14-07-2011, 08:18 AM
The BEST PART - NO MENTION AT ALL in THE "MCA" newspaper - THE STAR :p :p :p - call yourself a newspaper !!!!!!!!!! :mad: try MCA toilet paper - the cap fits better :p :p !!!

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/doctors-say-cops-fired-tear-gas-into-tung-shin-compound/

Here is the REAL NEWS !!

burntan
14-07-2011, 08:39 AM
Now even with the police's "official video" come back from the Holywood special effect team can't cover up these lies anymore :D :D

cml
14-07-2011, 09:19 AM
His parents gave him wrong name la. You all know what I mean. Pronounced the same but a world of difference.

USJ27Resident
14-07-2011, 09:51 AM
The BEST PART - NO MENTION AT ALL in THE "MCA" newspaper - THE STAR :p :p :p - call yourself a newspaper !!!!!!!!!! :mad: try MCA toilet paper - the cap fits better :p :p !!!

Dude - (reality check) can't blame the editors 100% either la.. they still have to put food on the table la....

I know one senior editor guy in TheStar that always looks like he is on Panadol 24/7.... must be from all the directives from the Home Ministry and Paul Joseph Goebbels wannabes.... opps!! :p

ivanhow
14-07-2011, 10:56 AM
Can anyone recognise what this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQIHp9g5PE) shows ? :eek:
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rLQIHp9g5PE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rhiga
14-07-2011, 11:17 AM
yes .. it was founded as a charitable org .. but i heard a story saying that the hospital account went deficit and health minister has gave some amount to the hospital .. therefore you should know what is the next ... lol

I don’t think this is funny… certainly not for people with the right frame of mind.. :mad:

Charitable organization means the operating expenditure comes from – donation and proceeds/income from investment...

It is not unusual for Tung Shin to run into deficit and needs to look for other income stream, for example asking fund from government.

The money is from the taxpayers – it makes perfect sense for them to ask money from the gomen to operate the hospital..

I don’t know why you can LOL, perhaps you should get your brain check at Tung Shin…

ivanhow
14-07-2011, 12:06 PM
How about this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2R7B0Yn_ioA#at=21),

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2R7B0Yn_ioA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


and this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQIHp9g5PE&NR=1)?

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rLQIHp9g5PE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

and perhaps this one too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76Va6VhkwN4&feature=related).

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/76Va6VhkwN4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Perhaps our Bar Council (non-political body) have something to say here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FA5wcNfpTQ&NR=1)...

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4FA5wcNfpTQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rhiga
14-07-2011, 03:40 PM
Dr Ng Kwee Boon — Consultant Obstetrician & Gynaecologist

Datin Dr Low Paik See — Consultant Paediatrician

Dato’ Dr Musa Mohd Nordin — Consultant Paediatrician & Neonatologist

Dr Mazeni Alwi — Consultant Paediatric Cardiologist

Dr David Quek — Consultant Cardiologist

Dr Sheikh Johari Bux — Consultant Obstetrician & Gynaecologist

Dr Steve Wong — Consultant Plastic Surgeon

Dr Ahmad Farouk Musa — Consultant Cardiothoracic Surgeon

Dr Ng Swee Choon — Consultant Cardiologist

Dr Mary Cardosa — Consultant Anaesthesiologist

Dr Jeffrey Abu Hassan — Consultant Chest Physician

YOU ALL HAVE MY UTMOST RESPECT.

SiangMalam
14-07-2011, 03:48 PM
yes .. it was founded as a charitable org .. but i heard a story saying that the hospital account went deficit and health minister has gave some amount to the hospital .. therefore you should know what is the next ... lol
What are you trying to say here, Concern?

The hospital was founded on a charity and it still depends on charity to run the place. What is wrong in the federal government to extend some funds to help run a place like a hospital?

Are you saying just because it has received funds from the government, it must bow to the government even if the government has done wrong?

You are getting all mixed up, GOVERNMENT MONEY IS PEOPLE'S MONEY, get that into your head! Or maybe Sagamihara is right, go get yuour head checked at Tung Shin!

Raikonen
14-07-2011, 04:18 PM
Liow Tiong Lie

" I was misquoted"

tupai
14-07-2011, 04:22 PM
because of what the Brave doctors did by coming forward...maybe Tung Shin now falls into many a prefered charity org...

http://tungshin.com.my/

We can issue cheq to Tung Shin Hospital Fund For The Poor.

Some more, a tax exemption statement will be issued. U make relief/claims agast yr tax lah...

Can reduce paying the not so Bersih gomen less tax :D

Yang Ada BERSIH TIU xlatotupai :cool:

zinglicious
14-07-2011, 06:13 PM
Dr Ng Kwee Boon — Consultant Obstetrician & Gynaecologist

Datin Dr Low Paik See — Consultant Paediatrician

Dato’ Dr Musa Mohd Nordin — Consultant Paediatrician & Neonatologist

Dr Mazeni Alwi — Consultant Paediatric Cardiologist

Dr David Quek — Consultant Cardiologist

Dr Sheikh Johari Bux — Consultant Obstetrician & Gynaecologist

Dr Steve Wong — Consultant Plastic Surgeon

Dr Ahmad Farouk Musa — Consultant Cardiothoracic Surgeon

Dr Ng Swee Choon — Consultant Cardiologist

Dr Mary Cardosa — Consultant Anaesthesiologist

Dr Jeffrey Abu Hassan — Consultant Chest Physician

YOU ALL HAVE MY UTMOST RESPECT.

Tabik Spring to healers of body and minds. BTW, we have Yel low Chinese from Dr Wong to Dr Low to Malays from DR Ahmad to Dr Sheik ,came out to support the clean act in the name of Kebenaran and Kebersihan. Where there's smoking gas, there is fire of democracy. :) :) :)

SiangMalam
14-07-2011, 11:07 PM
Tabik Spring to healers of body and minds. BTW, we have Yel low Chinese from Dr Wong to Dr Low to Malays from DR Ahmad to Dr Sheik ,came out to support the clean act in the name of Kebenaran and Kebersihan. Where there's smoking gas, there is fire of democracy. :) :) :)
On one hand we complain about stereotyping by racial types and here we are behaving exactly that way by identifying the doctors by race... shucks!

VeeJay
15-07-2011, 12:28 AM
Even khairy had told the gomen to come out clean, since there is so many evidence on web and there is no point to lie! Thats interesting...

zinglicious
15-07-2011, 12:35 AM
And the spin goes on.......Now a high power commitee headed by the Health Ministry to what healthy differences between Polis, Kemetrian Kesihatan, hospital authorities and insiders eyewitness from the working and diagnostic doctors of the Tung Shin hospital. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/liow-orders-probe-into-tung-shin-hospital-incident/
BTW, I did the search from The Star or the Galaxy, only one mainstream link that have a brief statement about this investigation that affects the integrity of the Polis and Health Authority of Malaysia - Bernama http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v5/newsindex.php?id=601401.

USJ27Resident
15-07-2011, 01:21 AM
And the spin goes on.......Now a high power commitee headed by the Health Ministry....

TO DO WHAT?? Waste more taxpayers money to hold another inquiry??? Might as well make it a RCI.... a touch of class, perhaps!!

TO DO WHAT?? To take the HOME MINISTRY and the POLICE to TASK?

What a load of crap.... :mad: :mad:

CSL and LTL hands are TIED in this matter... all wayang!!! Go bang on an empty 55gallon barrel and listen to the similarities...

If that bunch of brave doctors did not speak out - Chua and Liow would be sitting pretty right now... but the doctors did.... and these two must be sitting pretty with an egg each - splat on their faces!! :mad:

Read Zing's links and compare BERNAMA and MALAYSIAInsider versions.... sure as hell, the doctors statements have now put the Govt, the Police, the Home Ministry, the Health Ministry and the MSM (oh - not forgetting MCA!) in a pickle....

(I so loike... Chua No Loike!!! Liow Can Lai summore.... ;) )

zinglicious
15-07-2011, 02:27 AM
On one hand we complain about stereotyping by racial types and here we are behaving exactly that way by identifying the doctors by race... shucks!
Korek Korek Korek. Stop calling me Yell ow or Orang Hitam. :) :) :) Wah see Orang http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZy_KsP5yGw&NR=1
Nasi Lemak Shiok. Gua pun tahu masak or makan Nasi Lemak. :) :) :)
Back to Tung Shin - Even it the protestors were to barge in the hospitals , the Polis should restrain from shooting or gassing the hospitals because they would be collaterol damages because of the warded patients suffering from pulmonary or heart disorder. The responsiblity of the riot cops is to control and prevent damage with minimal force as in the Standard Operating Proceedures. But then, from the videos seen, the rally was generally peaceful and unprovoked. Just like the video above - Wah See Orang either I am black, white or yellow. :) :) :)

cml
15-07-2011, 09:57 AM
Maybe its time that the public pays a bit more attention as to who runs the hospital. All these dinasours (who are in cahoots or indebted to the ymca) needs to be kicked out. They probably think the hospital belongs to their grand fathers

Rhiga
15-07-2011, 10:38 AM
Maybe its time that the public pays a bit more attention as to who runs the hospital. All these dinasours (who are in cahoots or indebted to the ymca) needs to be kicked out. They probably think the hospital belongs to their grand fathers


Let be clear about two things – generally, there are two types/groups of people running a charitable organization.

1. The genuine people who want to contribute. This group of people will take the voluntary roles and contribute their time/knowledge/skill. Some of them are rich but most of them are average folks.

2. The rich businessman/entrepreneur who want to contribute but with a purpose – fame/name, networks, etc. Most of these people are in the Board of Directors because they provide the livehood of the charitable organization i.e. money.

However, they are many rich people who just donate but don’t want their name to be known i.e. they are in group (1).

You can blast the people in group (2) because they will kow-tow to the authority to protect their personal/business interest (not the charitable organization's interest).

Please don’t generalize those old people who run Tung Shin Hospital as cahoots or whatever…

aursong
15-07-2011, 10:57 AM
the problem is not actually the tear gas/water that went into the hospital...
can't really control all the personels as they are in the line of duty... and in this case... the collateral damage is minimum...

the problem is the attitude of the authorities...
denial, know best/know it all, flip-flop...

the matter would not be blown up if they were humble and just apologize and ensure some corrective action would be taken at the 1st go...

instead... now we'll be having a high commitee sandiwara wayang to tengok in coming months... that going to be paid by tax money...

Cheers...

cml
15-07-2011, 11:25 AM
If faced with overwhelming evidence that there was intrusion of smoke and water and they still want to maintain that it was not, irrespective of their intentions in being on the board of governors, to me it is a reflection of their character as a principled human being. I am not saying that they should condemn the actions of the authorities but rather not come out to deny what is blatantly obvious. They could have talked to their own people first before coming out with a denial. If they had investigated and determined that their own people had lied to them then action should be taken against them for lying. If the doctors are not theirs then they should come out together with all the doctors and clarify the matter. Since the doctors have come out openly, why is it so difficult for them to get all of them around and hold a press conference to clarify the matter but instead they go around accusing some of the doctors for taking part in the rally!!. If they have proof that these doctors were indeed lying then they should initiate disciplinary against them.

tupai
15-07-2011, 11:42 AM
if I gomen i'd do this...
Be the first to admit mistakes. Be the first to tell it. Be the 1st to say sori-ah. Then have a few frumen arrested, hauled their sorry asses to court (with pillow cases over their heads, of course) ...then sentenced all guilty water-cannon, tear gas shooters to a couple of years in isolation jail. Q.E.D. :cool:

Who is to know the truth? :confused: or even what these fru guys look like?:cool:


Yang Ada Bukti TIU xlatotupai :cool:

Raikonen
15-07-2011, 11:49 AM
if I gomen i'd do this...
Be the first to admit mistakes. Be the first to tell it. Be the 1st to say sori-ah. Then have a few frumen arrested, hauled their sorry asses to court (with pillow cases over their heads, of course) ...then sentenced all guilty water-cannon, tear gas shooters to a couple of years in isolation jail. Q.E.D. :cool:

Who is to know the truth? :confused: or even what these fru guys look like?:cool:


Yang Ada Bukti TIU xlatotupai :cool:

Hello fren dun give them any fresh ideas la. But anyway they are too thick and egoistic to do that. Anyway is too late to do all the above. What they can do is remove that ah lie fella for lying and ask him to resign to pacify those who want retribution. Anyway Mca is expendable to umno. Useless yesmen

Rhiga
15-07-2011, 11:51 AM
The truth is out there and is indisputable. What they are trying to do is trying to complicate/blur the evidences...

As I said before, they are protecting themselves (not the hospital). They are worried of their business interest being affected, etc. They (willingly or forced) will say whatever the authority wanted them to say…

I am not saying they should not be condemned… they are spineless people who utilize their financial position in a charitable organization.

But please don’t generalize all old people who run the hospital as cahoots and dinosaurs…

Rhiga
15-07-2011, 12:25 PM
I just wonder… if similar accident happen in your workplace (hotel, factory, warehouse, etc.) and your employer behave exactly the same way with the board of the hospital…

What will you do… ??

Principled enough to tell the truth and sign an affidavit to testify ?? Princpled enough to resign, to disaccotiate yourself with this bunch of cahoots ?? or just blast behind a nick in USJ.com but kow-tow to your boss when you are back to office ??

Honestly ask yourself..

SiangMalam
15-07-2011, 01:14 PM
Korek Korek Korek. Stop calling me Yell ow or Orang Hitam. :) :) :) Wah see Orang http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZy_KsP5yGw&NR=1
Nasi Lemak Shiok. Gua pun tahu masak or makan Nasi Lemak. :) :) :)
Back to Tung Shin - Even it the protestors were to barge in the hospitals , the Polis should restrain from shooting or gassing the hospitals because they would be collaterol damages because of the warded patients suffering from pulmonary or heart disorder. The responsiblity of the riot cops is to control and prevent damage with minimal force as in the Standard Operating Proceedures. But then, from the videos seen, the rally was generally peaceful and unprovoked. Just like the video above - Wah See Orang either I am black, white or yellow. :) :) :)I don't think you understood what I said??? :o

On one hand we complain about stereotyping by racial types and here we are behaving exactly that way by identifying the doctors by race... shucks!

SiangMalam
15-07-2011, 01:23 PM
Ha Ha Ha! She wore YELLOW to meet the PM and his wife - intentional snub? Tangkap sama dia Hisham, apa tunggu tunggu lagi?

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee122/GreenBug19/YellowQueen.jpg

aursong
15-07-2011, 01:34 PM
Ha Ha Ha! She wore YELLOW to meet the PM and his wife - intentional snub? Tangkap sama dia Hisham, apa tunggu tunggu lagi?

I think wearing YELLOW issue was actually blown up in the alternative media and internet rumors... have anyone actually put into custody for wearing YELLOW??? :confused: without the B word

If not then don't help put the YELLOW fears in people... let just support YELLOW by wearing it on every Saturday...

Back to TS Hospital...
Think we should check again what was actually being say by the TS board... as seen the collateral damage was minimum to none... no building damage, water/gas that actually cause any inconvinient to the patients... so

Tung Shin Hospital was untouched by any tear gas canister nor did it come into direct contact with water cannon spray during Saturday’s Bersih 2.0 rally, said its president Ng Beh Tong

actually hold truth...

btw siangmalam\cml\fonzie... zing already got banana for highjacking a thread... let's not be the next victims... ban need to be worth it... not worth it for rossie...

Cheers... :D

cml
15-07-2011, 01:38 PM
Look at the hair on the flom. Incredibly big!!

fonzie
15-07-2011, 01:51 PM
I think there is a boo-boo(?) in the handshake.....

The Queen should have wear gloves or the PM should have been a bit more alert.

Alas! Murphy's Law I guess...;)-

Cheers!

zinglicious
15-07-2011, 02:23 PM
I think wearing YELLOW issue was actually blown up in the alternative media and internet rumors... have anyone actually put into custody for wearing YELLOW??? :confused: without the B word

If not then don't help put the YELLOW fears in people... let just support YELLOW by wearing it on every Saturday...

Back to TS Hospital...
Think we should check again what was actually being say by the TS board... as seen the collateral damage was minimum to none... no building damage, water/gas that actually cause any inconvinient to the patients... so

Tung Shin Hospital was untouched by any tear gas canister nor did it come into direct contact with water cannon spray during Saturday’s Bersih 2.0 rally, said its president Ng Beh Tong

actually hold truth...

btw siangmalam\cml\fonzie... zing already got banana for highjacking a thread... let's not be the next victims... ban need to be worth it... not worth it for rossie...Cheers... :D

The use of the tear gas is not the cannister but irritants cause breathing difficulties with the gas spread upward wide. Just imagine we can hardly tahan nyamuk spray, how do those with pulmonary breathing problems like asthma and heart disorder can tahan if it reaches the intensive care unit ward?. :eek:

When Kuching see Ikan, the temptation is too hard to resist. :D

cml
15-07-2011, 03:28 PM
Dunno whats in those gas. Whole night i was kept awake by throat irritation but normally i do not have breathing problems. But it was ok after that cos the next day i took a shot of unadulterated gold label. Kill off all the kotor germs and made my throat bersih again.!!

zinglicious
15-07-2011, 03:52 PM
The gas is actually acid powder! And this acid can cause irrrition to the eyes, lungs, throat, mouth and heart. For those with weaken heart or compromised respiratory systems, it may cause death! :eek:
As it is acid, you would be feeling better with some OTC drugs like actal which is anti -acid or antacid. ;)
And beer would surely have the anti acid effects with some banana fries as tibits bites. It has a feel good effect after the gas. Hic* Hic* Hic* :)

Ditto
15-07-2011, 03:57 PM
Back to TS Hospital...
Think we should check again what was actually being say by the TS board... as seen the collateral damage was minimum to none... no building damage, water/gas that actually cause any inconvinient to the patients... so

No building damage? none? I was able to escape because of the collapsing fence of the hospital :(

Not sure what is in those chemical laced water spray...it was real torturing like thousand bees sting on you for some 3-4 mins. I found tiny rashes all over my back the next day...not sure the long term side effect too :(

chookyan
15-07-2011, 05:00 PM
:mad: Unbelieveable this guy - http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/170024

zinglicious
15-07-2011, 06:39 PM
No building damage? none? I was able to escape because of the collapsing fence of the hospital :(

Not sure what is in those chemical laced water spray...it was real torturing like thousand bees sting on you for some 3-4 mins. I found tiny rashes all over my back the next day...not sure the long term side effect too :(

Conventional water canon is just that - jets of high pressure water to subdue the protestors. But it could inflict injuries due to the impact of pressures.
If you are experiencing rashes, it is probably laced with the same type of acid compound like the tear gas pistol which cause skin burning sensation. :eek:
Remedy from the acid laced water canon is probably a long bathtub bath but astmatics who are affected by chemical irritants or extreme envioroment condition, better consult doctor. ;)

USJ27Resident
15-07-2011, 10:19 PM
:mad: Unbelieveable this guy - http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/170024

Yeah rite... like someone really wanna 'kena-kan' you.... just like the Velfire setup/story.... :rolleyes:

YB Health Minister: FYI - I still don't need Gingko supplement :p

zinglicious
16-07-2011, 02:41 PM
No one trying to get him or gas him. He is digging his own political grave with the bull story and singing blowing in the wind. :p

zinglicious
17-07-2011, 01:20 PM
Guess our MCA officers didnt put Sun Tzu's Art of War into real pratice - The art of war is of vital importance to the State. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected.
Instead he was trying to pratice Tai Chi in the state affair. :p

LMei
18-07-2011, 08:25 AM
Upfront video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghX4G6TjzJA&feature=player_embedded

zinglicious
21-07-2011, 07:03 PM
ThE cops admitted that they fired and gassed. - Guess so. :confused: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/7/21/nation/20110721172619&sec=nation

ivanhow
21-07-2011, 10:00 PM
Upfront video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghX4G6TjzJA&feature=player_embedded

<center> Police in uniform was seen throwing some object into the crowd at abt 2:37 of the video footage.

<a href="http://s429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/usjtraffic/BersihBersih/?action=view&amp;current=Policethrewsomethingatcrowd.j pg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/usjtraffic/BersihBersih/Policethrewsomethingatcrowd.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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</center>

<center> Police was seen punching into the unarmed person while escorting him at abt 3:17 of the video footage.

<a href="http://s429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/usjtraffic/BersihBersih/?action=view&amp;current=Policebeatingupunarmedperson. jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/usjtraffic/BersihBersih/Policebeatingupunarmedperson.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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</center>

zinglicious
21-07-2011, 10:22 PM
Somehow, they didnt show the above pictures at the TV news today to show the Polis has acted professionally. But I dont know how pro they were when the Polis officer said tear gas were not fired directly and dunno how the gas go into Tung Shin Hospital. :confused:
Omission of facts is a big X factor with the photos shown by Ivanhow but evidently not shown during the press conference. :confused:

ivanhow
22-07-2011, 03:13 PM
Police admit to firing tear gas and water near Tung Shin Hospital on July 9 (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/7/21/nation/20110721172619&sec=nation) but..

Watch this video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBN8blQF4Hs). It appears that this video shoot was done on the rooftop of the hospital building.

Remember the look and appearance of the rooftop structure.

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/hBN8blQF4Hs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Then compare with the second video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQIHp9g5PE&feature=player_embedded#at=12).

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rLQIHp9g5PE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Then watch the second video and stop at 0.11 of the footage.

Perhaps police is saying that's not the hospital compound. :rolleyes: :confused:

<a href="http://s429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/usjtraffic/BersihBersih/?action=view&amp;current=WaterSprayedoverRooftop.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/usjtraffic/BersihBersih/WaterSprayedoverRooftop.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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Wonder why the authorities are still in denial mode... :confused: :confused:
Oh... sorry... that's the car park, not the hospital... :p :)

Rhiga
22-07-2011, 03:21 PM
As I said before, the truth/evidence is indisputable…

What they can do now is to blur the focus, complicate the evidence and deviate attention..

The recent RM2 million donation to Tung Shin is a good example….

But one thing they don't know - Nowdays, Malaysians tak cepat lupa… the memory will stay until the next GE…