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Totoro2010
08-07-2011, 07:58 PM
Does anybody has Sabah Snake Grass?

Good Guy
09-07-2011, 12:08 AM
Please read the comments:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Herbal-cure-for-cancerhttp://hubpages.com/hub/Herbal-cure-for-cancer

http://blackandwhite999.blogspot.com/2011/04/sabah-snake-grass-cures-many-types-of.htmlhttp://blackandwhite999.blogspot.com/2011/04/sabah-snake-grass-cures-many-types-of.html

usjhomer
11-07-2011, 09:46 AM
Am keen to get some to cultivate, where can i get them.

Justme123
11-07-2011, 05:47 PM
I think it may be the same as the snake plant
called Hampedu Bumi.
I recalled we spoke about this plant sometime ago.

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Depending on the soil or lighting conditions the leaves
look like snake skin.
The taste is very bitter and it is claimed to be a sort of 'cure-all' herb.
It is more like a weed rather than a herb and it grows very aggressively.

IMO, I think why it work is because it has the sort
of alkaloid that is so bitter and provocative, that
it stirs up the whole body immune system.
As such if the person body has any problem (cancer or otherwise)
it will sort of zoom in to attack the foreign thingy or anything
that is not natural to the body.
(just an opninion).

usj18leong
11-07-2011, 05:59 PM
Am keen to get some to cultivate, where can i get them.

I can get you some branches.

usj18leong
11-07-2011, 06:00 PM
I think it may be the same as the snake plant
called Hampedu Bumi.
I recalled we spoke about this plant sometime ago.

{Admin note - image from spam website removed}

Depending on the soil or lighting conditions the leaves
look like snake skin.
The taste is very bitter and it is claimed to be a sort of 'cure-all' herb.
It is more like a weed rather than a herb and it grows very aggressively.

IMO, I think why it work is because it has the sort
of alkaloid that is so bitter and provocative, that
it stirs up the whole body immune system.
As such if the person body has any problem (cancer or otherwise)
it will sort of zoom in to attack the foreign thingy or anything
that is not natural to the body.
(just an opninion).

I think they may be from the same family.
The Sabah Snake grass is not bitter.

usjhomer
11-07-2011, 06:08 PM
Not really sure whether this is the same one but the actual sabah snake grass is sweet instead of bitter which is the indian snake grass. So if you have the sweet one it would be great as it is suppose to help in my daughter's eczema.

Please contact me @ 019 2133218 on how to arrange for collection.

Thanks in advance.

fRaNkY
11-07-2011, 08:31 PM
3 leaves with hot water... Good for sore throat.

Eugene Chin
13-07-2011, 09:07 PM
Be very careful when consuming the 'snake grass'... my wife's brother, who is having lung cancer, was given some by his sister in law.. after taking them.. vomit blood... maybe not suitable for his body system. :eek:

jimmyay
14-07-2011, 09:34 AM
3 leaves with hot water... Good for sore throat.

Totally agree. ;)

RolyPoly
06-08-2011, 01:14 PM
I got 4 stalks of Sabah Snake Grass yesterday and trying to propagate them. The leaves taste sweet. Let's see how well mine grow. Then I can also pass it on for sharing with others.

Seem like a lot of leaves are required for cancer patient treatment. My friend and I went to a house in Taman Chempaka, PJ and the owner (an oral cancer survivor) planted over 100 pots. But he wouldn't give us any pot. Instead he wanted to charge us RM50 for a pot! Fortunately, we found a neighbour who has been growing some herbs and he generously cut some stalks for us to propagate!

Naka
30-08-2011, 07:51 AM
My friend in Tenom has a farm & he grows these snake grass for sale.

They sell like hot cakes

RolyPoly
31-08-2011, 03:28 PM
Sg. Buluh nursery is selling the Sabah Snake Grass for RM5 per pot. The lady told me that this plant used to grow wildly and no one demands for it. but now that its benefits are well-known, many buyers are asking for it.

Naka
11-12-2011, 12:36 PM
I spoke to my friend & it is called in Hakka .." Sah Lii Chaw"....it grows wild :D I am trying to get a photo if possible :D

yssee
27-12-2011, 03:36 PM
It's common for advance lung cancer to cough blood anyway That may not be the root cause

yssee
27-12-2011, 03:39 PM
Your are right , the Sabah snake grass is not at all bitter .....nutty sweet taste very pleasant .
This Sabah snake leave is quite well known . One Dato paid Rm1000 for a cluster from China as remedy for his diabetes problems. What a sucker. Heard that it help to detox diabetic patient , eventually reduce frequency for dialysis. The side effect is "hon" in cantonese tend to induce cough if body is weak .( durian is a quick fix) my friend has been eating 2 freshly picked leaves once every two days ...seem to work for him ( after 2 months) His toxicity has a 50% reduction .
This is also known to keep cancer cell in check .
Hope this information is of help to Subang folks.
Regards

CH
31-12-2011, 08:20 AM
A bilingual e-book (CN-EN) has been published on the Sabah Snake Grass subject with background information, testimonials, newspaper clippings and reference websites.

You can download the e-book for free from the following website.

http://sabahsnakegrassbook.blogspot.com

RolyPoly
10-01-2012, 10:01 PM
I have 4 Sabah Snake plants growing in my backyard now. If anyone want a plant, do let me know.

yzhew
11-01-2012, 09:42 AM
I have planted quite a lot in my backyard but the demand from friends n relatives are too high. Recently found a lady, Angela selling fresh leaves, tea and powder. You may get her at 010 515 3186. Been supplying me constantly since I have quite a number of customers facing health problems.

Just to name a few, it helps diabetic and dialysis patient, reduce cholesterol and uric acid and most importantly, the grass is highly anti oxidant and anti inflammatory which I believe is good for cancer patients.

I'm also taking tea for general health keeping.

RolyPoly
11-01-2012, 01:04 PM
May I know how do you consume the leaves, yzhew?

patrick
25-01-2012, 03:06 PM
Anyone want to plant this, let me know. And if anyone want the leaves for their own consumption, please let me know too, so that whenever I trim the plants, I can alert them to come collect the leaves. Only those from usj.com please. I dont want outsiders who may abuse my offer to satisfy their greed.

Jan Tomaski, are the saplings you took growing?

jan tomaswaki
26-01-2012, 08:12 AM
Thanks Pat ! the saplings are just conditioning,thanks.

lhct
31-01-2012, 12:03 PM
Anyone want to plant this, let me know. And if anyone want the leaves for their own consumption, please let me know too, so that whenever I trim the plants, I can alert them to come collect the leaves. Only those from usj.com please. I dont want outsiders who may abuse my offer to satisfy their greed.
Hi Pat,
I would like some cuttings if still available. I can collect from you anytime you're going to the Book Exchange, and the next one is this coming Sunday. Thanks.

fRaNkY
31-01-2012, 08:41 PM
It would be good if every usj.com members can plant some, in case of emergency, can easily raise te quantity needed.

patrick
02-02-2012, 09:29 PM
If the Book X is this Sunday, then ok I will try to drop by with the saplings or cuttings. Rgds.


Hi Pat,
I would like some cuttings if still available. I can collect from you anytime you're going to the Book Exchange, and the next one is this coming Sunday. Thanks.

alvin.teh5667
24-02-2012, 09:04 PM
i dont wan to rain on anyone's parade here.....but just wish to share some info and a rather sad story here. My uncle has lymphoma which is known to be no cure cancer. So, he instead of the conventional western medicine, he opted for this snake grass option. He took over 100 leaves per day (blended with fruit juice). But his condition didnt improve and when he finally went for "chemo", his doctor ( a cancer specialist ) told him that several of his patients died from cancer because they relied too much on the snake grass. So, my uncle stopped taking the snake grass and continued with the western treatment. And he actually felt better .... it is good to try several types of medicine ... but never rely 100% on anything...

jan tomaswaki
26-02-2012, 10:43 PM
Thanks for the info,Alvin.At what stage your uncle is having?Maybe you are right..but those suffering from Stage 4 like my friend keeps continuing the snake grass with no choice,but this fren is also using the juicing method.

xinrong
27-02-2012, 08:26 AM
If the person has a good fighting chance then by all means try whatever he/she can afford to.Sometimes it is not a matter of curing, like my late father. When doc says chemo can prolong the life of a person in his 70s by 3 - 6 months, we rather have the snake grass to alleviate the symptoms and make him comfortable since chemo may just kill him immediately like the instance of a friend's father, who was in fact younger by a few years. Hard as it is, I'd rather let the person go than to see them suffer with the harsh treatment.

alvin.teh5667
27-02-2012, 09:20 PM
he is at stage four....

jan tomaswaki
02-03-2012, 01:06 PM
he is at stage four....

Wow ! stage 4 also can cure ! Can you brief further?

RolyPoly
02-03-2012, 06:05 PM
I also have several Sabah Grass plants growing. If anyone need it, please buzz me. It's easy to grow.

alvin.teh5667
08-03-2012, 10:02 AM
Hi Jan ... Sorry to mention this but my uncle passed away at 2nd March due to the cancer .... Yeah ... Apparently , the sabah snake grass didn't exactly work out for him .... my word of advice is still ... don't just believe in one type of medication ... and it is also good to consult a few doctors should there be any serious issues ....

karenleehs
17-03-2012, 12:06 AM
Sorry to hear about the death of your uncle....

My husband has just been diagnosed with stage 3 nasopharyngeal carcinoma. He will be going in for radiation treatment soon. In the meantime, he is trying out this snake grass treatment. He has been taking them for a week now and his nose has stopped bleeding. The blocked nasal passage due to the growth of the tumour has cleared slightly too.... we do not know if this is due to the snake grass or the fact that we have been juicing for three times a day.

At the moment, i have a small supply of snake grass. I might need more of them in about a week's time.... The new ones we have planted aren't ready for harvesting yet.... Please pm me if anyone of you are able to provide me some... I live in Kota Kemuning....

Thanks very much....

lady-o-leisure
17-03-2012, 01:29 AM
My condolences to you and your family, Alvin. Stage4 is a pretty bad place to be.

To anyone who is attempting major juicing or herbal treatments upon diagnosis, pls note that herbal treatments are not advisable during the chemo treatments. Once chemo has started, stay off the herbs. Normal fruits and veggies are fine as long as everything is washed thoroughly as the patient is susceptible to all kinds of illnesses and that will disrupt the chemo treatment plan. Herbal treatments may hv a tendency to counteract the chemo efficacy thus making the treatment less effective. That simply means the chemo therapy cant do what it is meant to do. It is just best to consume as much nutrients to strengthen the body to handle chemo. Work with the doctors, not against them. Consult with them when consuming anything out of the ordinary while undergoing chemo. If chemo has not started.. go ahead and take whatever in mega doses.

jan tomaswaki
18-03-2012, 04:56 AM
Pls see post No #19 ,call her Angela,it cost RM10 per dose/day.She usually sent you by courier ,add RM10. All are nicely pack and fresh.

blackgammon
02-04-2012, 04:24 PM
Hi, finally got my password back and able to post in usj.com.my.

I bought SSG leaves (in plastic container) as well as plants from www.yikpohling.com.my, seremban last last Sunday. And I consume 40 leaves per day for my 8/10 "seriousness" psoriasis, and also the Xian Shan Fu Bao cream. I have a combination of pustular and plaque psoriasis on both hands and feet, and as you know, we 'use' our hands and feet everyday, this makes treatment a lot harder.

I have been misdiagnosed with eczema with the very famous long-queue Dr. Ranjit Singh from SS15, and put on 15kg as he kept feeding me steroids and for once I even got steroid injection as both my hands REALLY are scaring ppl off, I have to wear glove whenever I go for meeting. And finally an biopsy confirmed that it is NOT ECZEMA but psoriasis, and steroid is contradicting with psoriasis, in the beginning it seems to tame the condition but after taking it for 1 1/2 year, it flared up like crazy during my 6th visit to Dr. Ranjit Singh.

I was on and off chemo pills since, and I experienced all the side effects of chemo treatment including hair loss (but not to the extent of botak).
And recently my pap test showed abnormal cells then only I started taking SSG which I already know few months back (but kind of dun care about it)

I went to the plantation in Seremban and bought 5 containers (*500 leaves), I have been taking SSG and applying the cream for 9 days now, the first 2 days I really really slept (I have insomnia problem), and my psoriasis continue to flare but my skin reacts to the herbal cream in a different way than the usual steroids cream, the skin at the affected area would be itchy and when I scratched, it will peel off totally, for eg, a patch of 1cm diameter area came off as 1 'piece', revealing the flesh, and if I apply the cream and if it feels cooling the the next day the skin will dry off, if I apply the cream and still feeling itchy, that means more 'rounds' to go.

So far 6 patches of about 1cm diameter have dried off. I will keep you guys posted.

palmdoc
24-07-2012, 03:24 PM
i dont wan to rain on anyone's parade here.....but just wish to share some info and a rather sad story here. My uncle has lymphoma which is known to be no cure cancer. So, he instead of the conventional western medicine, he opted for this snake grass option. He took over 100 leaves per day (blended with fruit juice). But his condition didnt improve and when he finally went for "chemo", his doctor ( a cancer specialist ) told him that several of his patients died from cancer because they relied too much on the snake grass. So, my uncle stopped taking the snake grass and continued with the western treatment. And he actually felt better .... it is good to try several types of medicine ... but never rely 100% on anything...

Just to clarify that lymphoma is potentially curable, the cure rates depend on the type and prognostic factors (stage is only one of these). The cure rates for early stage Hodgkin lymphoma for instance is as high as 90% in stage I disease. Non-Hodgkin lymphoma is a very heterogenous groups of disorders so one cannot generalise as well.
Best arm oneself with information from sites like http://lymphoma.org and your doctor.
The sad thing is to see folks shopping around and messing with "alternatives to medicine" until their disease reaches more advanced less curable stages.
Cancer is not one disease and the treatments are very different these days. It's not just "chemo" but involves newer targeted therapies depending on the type of cancer.
Lastly a word of advice about testimonial "evidence" - these can be very misleading.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/scivsalt.html

ng
28-07-2012, 02:02 AM
Sorry to hear about the death of your uncle....

My husband has just been diagnosed with stage 3 nasopharyngeal carcinoma. He will be going in for radiation treatment soon. In the meantime, he is trying out this snake grass treatment. He has been taking them for a week now and his nose has stopped bleeding. The blocked nasal passage due to the growth of the tumour has cleared slightly too.... we do not know if this is due to the snake grass or the fact that we have been juicing for three times a day.

Thanks very much....

This is my opinion, cancer is a signal that your body is taking in too many toxins.

Radiation kills all cells and not just cancer cell. And cancer cell can grow back if you still take in toxins in the future.

It is better to take a fresh vegetarian and fruits everyday and stop taking meat. Nowadays people take in way too much meat as compare to our poor ancestors who ate mostly vege and didn't have much cancer.

This was reported in the star a few years back from people who had cancer and who switched their diet to a much healthier vege/fruit diet.

Short term chemo/radiation, long term vege/fruit diet to prevent any cancer cell from growing back. Correct me if I am wrong.

kuma
20-08-2012, 11:32 PM
Short term chemo/radiation, long term vege/fruit diet to prevent any cancer cell from growing back. Correct me if I am wrong.


Yahoo News: Chemotherapy can backfire and boost cancer growth

"Cancer-busting chemotherapy can cause damage to healthy cells which triggers them to secrete a protein that sustains tumour growth and resistance to further treatment, a study said Sunday.
Researchers in the United States made the "completely unexpected" finding while seeking to explain why cancer cells are so resilient inside the human body when they are easy to kill in the lab."

"The scientists found that healthy cells damaged by chemotherapy secreted more of a protein called WNT16B which boosts cancer cell survival.":eek:

Read more: Click Here>Yahoo News (http://goo.gl/9lPXo)

patrick
23-08-2012, 10:45 AM
I can harvest some Sabah Snake Grass again. Please email me if you need them. I also have mulberry leaves ready to harvest if you want. Rgds.

ninjawin
27-08-2012, 01:34 PM
i've found a lot of information about sabah snake grass online too. i think it's pretty useful. there are quite a number of testimonials from people who has cured by it

ninjawin
30-08-2012, 11:43 AM
here are some testimonials from a recent sabah snake grass (http://www.isabahsnakegrass.com/)

http://www.isabahsnakegrass.com/sabah-snake-grass-testimonial-from-cancer-patients/51/

MachoMan
09-10-2012, 09:29 PM
It's common for advance lung cancer to cough blood anyway That may not be the root cause

Wonder it is good for the liver..? A drinker 's liver.!

patrick
06-11-2012, 10:19 PM
I have some S S Grass to be harvested again. Any S Jayans in need, please sms, email or pm me. Rgds.

patrick
28-11-2012, 04:51 PM
Final call. Any S Jayans need harvest of SS Grass, please pm or email me. However, as I will be travelling, will respond when I get back. Rgds.

patrick
22-01-2013, 06:49 PM
I should be able to harvest my sabah snake grass in another week or two. Anyone interested, please pm me. Priority will be given to Subang Jayans. Rgds.

patrick
24-01-2013, 05:36 PM
Sorry ...have to defer my offer of the snake grass. I had to trim off all the leaves as they were tainted by paint due to the ongoing painting of our apartment block. Will place notification here when next harvest is due. Rgds.

palmdoc
14-07-2013, 09:11 AM
Sabah Snake Grass Warning (http://alt.medicine.com.my/2013/07/sabah-snake-grass-warning/)

Naka
22-07-2013, 05:50 AM
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Naka
22-07-2013, 06:56 AM
Finally I found Sabah Snake Grass in a friend's house in KK.

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Naka
22-07-2013, 06:58 AM
Had a drink of Sabah Snake Grass juice, yummy.:heheheh:


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Naka
22-07-2013, 06:59 AM
Some info on this health juice.

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Naka
22-07-2013, 07:00 AM
The goodness of Sabah Snake Grass.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/munchacha/IMG_2195a.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/munchacha/media/IMG_2195a.jpg.html)

Tham
14-11-2013, 12:20 AM
Sabah snake grass, Clinacanthus nutans, was studied last year by
UPM and USM researchers against the following cancer cell lines :


HepG2 - liver hepatocellular carcinoma
IMR32 - neuroblastoma
NCL-H23 - lung adenocarcinoma
SNU-1, - stomach adenocarcinoma
HeLa - cervical adenocarcinoma
LS-174T - colon adenocarcinoma
K562 - chronic myelogenous leukemia
Raji cells - Burkitt's lymphoma


Found to have anticancer properties, but not very strong.


'' CNC was the most potent antiproliferative agent against most cancer cell lines
tested in this experiment. CNC showed the highest antiproliferative activity on
K-562 and Raji cancer cell lines at 100 ug/mL with percentage inhibition of (91.28 ug/mL)
and (88.97 ug/mL), respectively. However, no effect was observed in IMR 32 cell lines. ''


'' In CNC (chloroform extract of Clinacanthus nutans) treated K562 cells and Raji cells,
the IC50 values were 47.70 ug/mL and 47.31 ug/mL, which fall above the recommended
IC50 value by National Cancer Institute (NCI) for crude extract, which is <20 ug/mL.

Although this data suggests that CNC may not be a strong anticancer regimen, the
antioxidant and cancer inhibitory properties demonstrated in this experiment may still
support the use of CNC as an alternate adjunctive therapy for cancer prevention
or treatment. ''


http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2013/462751


http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2013/462751/tab1/

Tham
26-11-2013, 08:14 AM
The other popular local anticancer herb, ''Black Face General'', 黑面將軍, Strobilanthes crispus,
is far more potent than Sabah snake grass in that it has direct cytotoxic effects on the breast
and prostate cancer cell lines studied.


Anticancer activity of a sub-fraction of dichloromethane extract of
Strobilanthes crispus on human breast and prostate cancer cells in vitro.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6882/10/42


Antioxidant, Total Phenolic Content and Cytotoxicity Evaluation
of Selected Malaysian Plants.

http://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/16/4/3433


In vitro cytotoxicity of Strobilanthes crispus ethanol extract on hormone
dependent human breast adenocarcinoma MCF-7 cell.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6882/12/35

jan tomaswaki
26-11-2013, 10:11 PM
Thanks, Tham for the info,AFAIK there are alot of Africa nationals in Goodyear pluck those Black Face General leaves to take home to cook.Once my sis ask them,they reply it,s part of their diet.

ng
14-06-2014, 01:35 PM
The other popular local anticancer herb, ''Black Face General'', 黑面將軍, Strobilanthes crispus,
is far more potent than Sabah snake grass in that it has direct cytotoxic effects on the breast





I read somewhere that Sabah snake grass have side effects too.


Where to buy this 'black face general'?