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waktu_senja
08-06-2011, 02:11 PM
Under birth Certificate - Bangsa Column, JPN rejected YB Hannah & hubby's application to have their baby registered as "Anak Malaysia" instead of Cina / India.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/bahasa/article/sabm-gesa-jpn-benar-daftar-bayi-perempuan-yb-hannah-yeoh-anak-malaysia/

Congrats to YB Hannah Yeoh & Rama for arrival of baby Shay Adora Ram.

Naka
08-06-2011, 02:17 PM
Just curious what happen in later life when the kid is travelling overseas.

Under Nationality, you put 'Anak Malaysia' ?

cml
08-06-2011, 02:28 PM
I think its in the race column and not the nationality. The nationality should be still Malaysian. When we are overseas only then can we call ourselves Malaysian because other countries do not recognise us as Malay/Chinese/Indian Malaysian!!

Hopefull
08-06-2011, 03:04 PM
Under birth Certificate - Bangsa Column, JPN rejected YB Hannah & hubby's application to have their baby registered as "Anak Malaysia" instead of Cina / India.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/bahasa/article/sabm-gesa-jpn-benar-daftar-bayi-perempuan-yb-hannah-yeoh-anak-malaysia/

Congrats to YB Hannah Yeoh & Rama for arrival of baby Shay Adora Ram.


I wonder why the father is a ashamed of his race that child should be registered as an Indian just like many other children of mixed marriages, they follow the father's race and obviously she is a Malayisan.

kwchang
08-06-2011, 03:23 PM
I wonder why the father is a ashamed of his race that child should be registered as an Indian just like many other children of mixed marriages, they follow the father's race and obviously she is a Malayisan.
You don't get the point - consider it as a protest statement against racial discriminations.

A lot of you may not know this but Indonesian and Thai citizens of Chinese descent do not declare they are Chinese. I have met young Indonesians and Thais and when I asked about their race, they proudly tell me they are either Indonesian or Thai. Only when I insist they tell me about their ancestral lineage do they confess that they are of Chinese origin.

burntan
08-06-2011, 03:49 PM
I am surprice they reject "lain-lain" as well, why not?

Hopefull
08-06-2011, 03:56 PM
It is not necessary to bring and mixed politics to this innocent child, just state her race accordingly. Just because Hannah is a politician she should not create a controversy and unnecssarily allow the poor child be ridiculed.
This is my take of this issue.

Naka
08-06-2011, 03:58 PM
It is not necessary to bring and mixed politics to this innocent child, just state her race accordingly. Just because Hannah is a politician she should not create a controversy and unnecssarily allow the poor child be ridiculed.
This is my take of this issue.

I fully agreed with you.

Naka
08-06-2011, 04:01 PM
You don't get the point - consider it as a protest statement against racial discriminations.

A lot of you may not know this but Indonesian and Thai citizens of Chinese descent do not declare they are Chinese. I have met young Indonesians and Thais and when I asked about their race, they proudly tell me they are either Indonesian or Thai. Only when I insist they tell me about their ancestral lineage do they confess that they are of Chinese origin.

Off-topic

You are right of course, but do you know how the Chinese in Indonesian suffered during this most trying period.

Do you want it to happen in Malaysia?

cml
08-06-2011, 04:04 PM
I think that she is walking the talk and not politising anything. Because the child is mixed would the child be classified a chindian? Its time we do away with the race. We would already know from the name and the religion. I think that is enough already.

Rhiga
08-06-2011, 04:22 PM
I think the core of the issue is Ė there is still a need to write down your race in the NRD form when apply for a birth cert/identity card..

If you canít change the requirement (I believe not at this moment), then write down your race. For mixed parentage, it is a norm to follow the race of the biological father.

The child's father is an Indian, then the child is an Indian... Period

To fight and get the race column removed in the official government forms (not just NRD) is a separate story....

gtl
08-06-2011, 04:26 PM
I think that she is walking the talk and not politising anything. Because the child is mixed would the child be classified a chindian? Its time we do away with the race. We would already know from the name and the religion. I think that is enough already.

totally agree - it is time we do away with race!

aursong
08-06-2011, 04:43 PM
I wonder why the father is a ashamed of his race that child should be registered as an Indian just like many other children of mixed marriages, they follow the father's race and obviously she is a Malayisan.

How can you conclude that the father is ashamed of his race as Indian based on this???!!! :confused: :eek:

bcuz they act out of norm and put the child as Chinese (temporary)?

SiangMalam
08-06-2011, 06:28 PM
I wonder why the father is a ashamed of his race that child should be registered as an Indian just like many other children of mixed marriages, they follow the father's race and obviously she is a Malayisan.
You do not even understand what's going on and you just slammed soimeone as being ashamed of his nationality.... aiyoh, it is race we are discussing here lah, nothing to do with nationality lah, pls know the difference lah... before going around slamming people! :mad:

SiangMalam
08-06-2011, 06:33 PM
It is not necessary to bring and mixed politics to this innocent child, just state her race accordingly. Just because Hannah is a politician she should not create a controversy and unnecssarily allow the poor child be ridiculed.
This is my take of this issue.
If a politician doesn't step up to the plate and take a stand, who will?

I think what Hannah did was to basically make a stand that race should not be a factor in our life which means everyone is an Anak Malaysia and whether its scholarship, or house purchase discount, or Lesen Kelas F etc, everyone is equal before the law.

What is so wrong in that? Isn't that what we are all fighting for?

SiangMalam
08-06-2011, 06:38 PM
And for the information of some forumers, let it be known that whatever happened in Indonesia during the Asian Financial Crisis in 1998, it has nothing to do with Indonesia's policy of everyone having similar names and no race identification in their official documents. It was some army generals stirring up up trouble to put the blame of the economic crisis on the "Chinese" population.... for and on behalf of the ruling party Golkar and President Soeharto! :o

DarkNite
08-06-2011, 06:53 PM
If a politician doesn't step up to the plate and take a stand, who will?
.....
What is so wrong in that? Isn't that what we are all fighting for?Yup not many will step up to the plate and take a stand!
Most citizen are so cowed or brainwashed by the authorities or MSN that their political education is so seriously lacking!

SiangMalam
08-06-2011, 07:00 PM
What is wrong with wanting my children to be known only as Malaysian (as in nationality) and no race mentioned and can qualify for scholarships overseas, for 7% discount when buy house, can join civil service, can join army and air force, can get Kelas F Licence, can attend Mara, can be CEO of Khazanah when she grows up? Isn't that what we are all fighting for?

Why must my child be rejected because the computer rejects her because she shaded =C= as in Chinese in her computerised application form? :o

Hopefull
08-06-2011, 07:00 PM
The child's father is an Indian, then the child is an Indian... Period

....

Excatly,Hello Mr Ram your little girl is Indian not Chinese and be proud of her.

SiangMalam
08-06-2011, 07:03 PM
Excatly,Hello Mr Ram your little girl is Indian not Chinese and be proud of her.
You should be ashamed of your own self for not knowing nor understanding what this Mr Ram and his wife is fighting for! If you don't even know what is going on, just step aside and let others do the fighting....

Hopefull
08-06-2011, 07:07 PM
You should be ashamed of your own self for not knowing nor understanding what this Mr Ram and his wife is fighting for! If you don't even know what is going on, just step aside and let others do the fighting....


hello
You can carry on barking I am finished with this issue.

SiangMalam
08-06-2011, 07:14 PM
Can't even conduct a proper and civil discourse without resorting to name-calling! It only reflects on you.

ivanhow
08-06-2011, 09:56 PM
Excatly,Hello Mr Ram your little girl is Indian not Chinese and be proud of her.
May I ask, if the father is a Malay, and the mother a Chinese, then what is the product ? Likewise father Chinese, mother Malay -what's the product. Is one more than the other? MaChin or ChinMa? :p Isn't that what Hannah is asking...??? ;)

Raikonen
08-06-2011, 10:54 PM
Personally I think Hannah has to choose the battles properly and not come across as trying to seek attention. Can she get anything good out of this given the rotten system?

kwchang
09-06-2011, 12:07 AM
This is getting no where.
I do not think Hannah was seeking attention but simply testing the waters ... hahaha, it is the outsiders making the issue.

Everyone had their say and let us agree to disagree, in respect for our diversity and respect for individual opinions.

Time to close