Tablet PC

[locust]

Im thinking of getting Ipad2. Its still has its short comings.

Anyone here is jumping on the tablet bandwagon? Devices like Moto Xoom, Samsung Tab etc. Lets discuss!

[fRaNkY]

ipad2 3g white still no stock ... wait another 2 weeks

[USJ27Resident]

used the ipad... so far....

- most frustrating part: NO flash flv/swf media playable in the safari web browser... all u see is a black hole/box in it...

- Youtube is the only app that can play .flv files...(from Youtube site only)

- neither can u download stuff and keep or run 'cept from App Stores...

- third party movies run off a VLC app which for now has been yanked from App Stores...

- No external storage - everything is thru the dreaded iTunes interface...

NOW will either get the Xoom or the Galaxy tab and see if it is better... Dell's Streak 7" taking a long time to get here.... :(

[FineTuned]

NOW will either get the Xoom or the Galaxy tab and see if it is better... Dell's Streak 7" taking a long time to get here.... :(
Look no further than the Asus EEE Pad Transformer. Probably the best value Android Tablet available at the moment. Only RM1489 for 16G WiFi version, or RM1799 with the keyboard. Seems like first batch all sold out yesterday during the launch at Midvalley.

[USJ27Resident]

Look no further than the Asus EEE Pad Transformer. Probably the best value Android Tablet available at the moment. Only RM1489 for 16G WiFi version, or RM1799 with the keyboard. Seems like first batch all sold out yesterday during the launch at Midvalley.

Oww... 300 bucks for the keyboard - well, I guess with the built in extra batteries in the keyboard docking allowing battery life to 16 hours is worth the extra $$$. Plus got the USB connection from the keyboard, now that wud be pretty awesome... (even more storage!) Summore running on Android 3.0...... nosebleed!! :p

[FineTuned]

Summore running on Android 3.0...... nosebleed!! :p
Word has it that the next batch of Transformers coming in June may already have Honeycomb 3.1. loaded :D

And also watch out for the secretive new hybrid from Asus...to be announced tomorrow. Looks like it's a super thin smartphone which can be docked into a tablet....now that's what I'm really looking for! Currently I'm targetting to get a Motorola Defy (dump the stock Eclair and CM7 it, of course) plus an Asus Transformer but if this rumour turns out to be true, I will probably go for the hybrid instead lah.

[palmdoc]

Watch out for a "new" platform, HP webOS, and they will be launching their Touchpad in a big way starting June and possibly hit our shores later this year. WebOS has arguably the best UI for mobile devices today and the best multi-tasking experience. Yes and it has flash too.

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[Charbroiled]

Screeew the ipad2!! This is mind numbingly aweeeesome!! :D:D


Watch out for a "new" platform, HP webOS, and they will be launching their Touchpad in a big way starting June and possibly hit our shores later this year. WebOS has arguably the best UI for mobile devices today and the best multi-tasking experience. Yes and it has flash too.

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[FineTuned]

Screeew the ipad2!! This is mind numbingly aweeeesome!! :D:D
The Touchpad, touted by HP to be `better than number one' in tablets, is coming to the market too late, IMHO. Maybe if it was launched to market at the beginning of the year, it'd have a fighting chance. As it is, the screen resolution of 1024x768 (same as the Ipad2) is already inferior to the 1280x800 of the currently available Honeycomb Tablets. It'll also likely be priced much higher than the Transformer and Ipad2. WebOS, historically, has been all promises and no delivery, so I'm not keeping my hopes up for a iOS or Honeycomb killer here. However, seeing is believing, so..... :D

[palmdoc]

There is still much room in the tablet market though yes Apple is far ahead at the moment. I have an iPad but share the frustrations on the limitations of the device such as lack of flash support and relatively poor multitasking.
Android has potential no doubt but I'd like to see more options not under Google's massive influence.
It's true HP must deliver the device globally and since it's all about apps, attract enough developers over, and make their app store truly global too. At least android apps are purchasable in Malaysia now.
The next 6 months should be interesting.

[Hiliary]

What is the point of these things anyway?
Is my life missing something if i do not have one?

[FineTuned]

What is the point of these things anyway? Beats me!



Is my life missing something if i do not have one? Nope!

But for gadget geeks, they're apparently essential!

[DarkNite]

.... and relatively poor multitasking.

Is this address in the new iPad2?

[FineTuned]

Is this address in the new iPad2?
I don't think Apple actually addressed the multitasking performance via iOS upgrade....it simply popped in a Dual Core, and doubled the memory to 512mb. This would of course create the immediate `impression' that the Ipad2 is better at multitasking than the original Ipad. The next Ipad3, with higher hardware specs, would again be better than Ipad2 following this logic.

Honeycomb devices generally `multitask' better than the iOS counterparts but then again, they usually have double the ram of the Ipad2 to play with, and suffer poorer battery life as a result.

In any case, compact mobile devices like these cannot really multitask like your average desktop pc....unless they start adding in SSDs to enable virtual memory swapping or increase the ram further maybe to 4Gb+. But it means higher cost, and poorer battery life. There's no magic formula for success.

[Rhiga]

What is the point of these things anyway?
Is my life missing something if i do not have one?

I don’t even have a 3G phone, let alone anything start with i..

I see people carry these gadgets while taking breakfast, lunch, walking, in the lift, near the pool, and even in the gym !! :eek:

sometimes I asked myself – what is wrong with me, everyone seems so busy and need to keep in touch instantly anytime and anywhere, and I am just too freaking free, don’t even want to reply email using a phone !!

[jimmyay]

I do hope WebOS can make a comeback.

[Hiliary]

I don’t even have a 3G phone, let alone anything start with i..

I see people carry these gadgets while taking breakfast, lunch, walking, in the lift, near the pool, and even in the gym !! :eek:

sometimes I asked myself – what is wrong with me, everyone seems so busy and need to keep in touch instantly anytime and anywhere, and I am just too freaking free, don’t even want to reply email using a phone !!

Nothing wrong with you, or me.
In my opinion anyway :D

I do have a 3G phone, because it's free as i refuse to pay for one.
But, no apps, never turned on the wifi, never checked my location, refuse to do email on a silly little screen etc.
My old SonyE was a lot better, easier to use, smaller, lighter etc. But now everyone seems to want larger heavier clumsier gizmo's and nobody seems to have a pocket large enough to put them in.

This is progress :confused:

[ivanhow]

Nothing wrong with you, or me.
In my opinion anyway :D

I do have a 3G phone, because it's free as i refuse to pay for one.
But, no apps, never turned on the wifi, never checked my location, refuse to do email on a silly little screen etc.
My old SonyE was a lot better, easier to use, smaller, lighter etc. But now everyone seems to want larger heavier clumsier gizmo's and nobody seems to have a pocket large enough to put them in.

This is progress :confused:
You said it man... I was given one 3G phone as a present. My complaint is, I had to wrack up my phone bill using the 3G features 'accidentally', and now I ask myself, "Why do I need a 3G phone anyway?" Do I need to respond to facebook or twitter? Do I need to respond to email on-the-fly, or do I need to show my location using GPS? I can do away with all these black-holes in the time-space spectrum. Why get myself busy with all these, and then pay the phone companies to make them fat? Of course unless I have lotz of $$spare$$ to throw around...

I am more for looking at a gadget that allow me to use it as a app device with free phone features such as Skype on the go, while still allow me to use it as a computing device to do mundane housekeeping computational chores...

Tell me, does the epad or the likes offer me these? Or, am I on the wrong side of the universe? :p

[Rhiga]

Yup, sometimes I also think I am not staying in the same universe… :p

I often tell my friends, colleagues and counterparts – call me if you need to talk to me. Don’t text or email me because I won’t reply. The rationale is if you have to buzz me, it must be an urgent matter and to handle urgent matter, logically you have to call me..

Not sure how long I can hold on to my “stubbornness"” of refusing to use 3G phone..

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Don't mind I digress a bit of the original topic..

I usually take breakfast in those coffee shop which “unfortunately” comes with free WiFi..

I obseved many of the single customer occupy a table which is for 4 pax...for the convenience to put the laptop on a bigger table, to put the laptop bag on another chair, put the writing notes/other materials on another chair, etc.

Of course, this is their choice and freedom but the question I would like to ask is – the “business loss” due to this type of customers ( which in my opinion, easily 40-50% of the overall customers at any one time) must have been pre-calculated before and factored into the price !!!

My point is – I think those who just go there for a quick breakfast is actually subsidizing these guys… :eek:

Cheers

Ps. Hilary,... I think Dockers Khakis pants (the one with 2 big hidden pockets and one small hidden pocket) is a good solution to put hand phone, car keys, parking chip coin, etc. and no worry of these items dropped once you zipped the pockets. There are business and casual khakis, I just like them...

[palmdoc]

Well, then there are those of us who find phone calls disruptive and annoying. I'd rather receive email or text which I can reply to in my own time.
Push email with Gmail is great.
If one is going to use a smartphone to it's intended potential, you are better off with a data plan.

Anyway we are digressing from tablets. My one comment is so far from my experience with the iPAd is that it's a good "coffee table" or "waiting room" device for quick browsing, reading, entertainment etc. When travelling e.g. for conferences, a notebook PC still has major advantages over a tablet PC e.g. can plugin to a hotel room's lan for internet access, editing and creating content e.g. presentations etc.

[cupofcoffee]

....

Anyway we are digressing from tablets. My one comment is so far from my experience with the iPAd is that it's a good "coffee table" or "waiting room" device for quick browsing, reading, entertainment etc. When travelling e.g. for conferences, a notebook PC still has major advantages over a tablet PC e.g. can plugin to a hotel room's lan for internet access, editing and creating content e.g. presentations etc.

100% agree ... I found the iPad to be almost "useless" except for looking trendy :p :p

[jimijamison]

I have been using the Galaxy Tab (which almost everyone calls it an IPad...) for the last 2 months and all I can say is that it is phenomenal. Once the 10.1 Tab hits our shore over the next few days, this is on top of my shopping list.

Credit to Apple for reinventing the tablet but...due to their arrogance, the large majority of the masses will not change the way they do things so that they can use the Apple.

[aursong]

100% agree ... I found the iPad to be almost "useless" except for looking trendy :p :p

almost all tablet PCs function are available in smartphones...
just a smaller screen that's all...

Well if one is earning USD then no problem to get one lah...
I won't mind spending RM300~RM400 to get an iPAD2... :D :D :D

[FineTuned]

Watch out for a "new" platform, HP webOS, and they will be launching their Touchpad in a big way starting June and possibly hit our shores later this year. WebOS has arguably the best UI for mobile devices today and the best multi-tasking experience. Yes and it has flash too.


I do hope WebOS can make a comeback.

It's official...HP has given up on the Touchpad (launched in June, buried in August, ignominous!) and most likely the WebOS as well. Word has it that there are loads of unsold Touchpads languishing in distribution stores across the 4 continents. Maybe we can now pick one up for a song - just for play-play? :D

[ivanhow]

BTW, anyone can tell me between Samsung Galaxy Tab and iPad, which wud be a better bet? :confused: :)

[DarkNite]

BTW, anyone can tell me between Samsung Galaxy Tab and iPad, which wud be a better bet? :confused: :)
what means better?

BTW there is an ongoing litigation by Apple. Apple is seeking a European Union ban on the importation and sales of all Galaxy smartphones and tablets.

[ivanhow]

Better in terms of functionality, and cost of ownership. Not having to keep upgrading with newer models in a short time span (which also boils down to cost of ownership), easy to upgrade with newer add-on functionality without having to re-invest in a newer model. :D :)

[DarkNite]

Apple have more apps & games than Android, at this time.
Many ppl using CIMB itrade platform, uses iOS.
.... so wat functionality are you looking for?

[FineTuned]

....Not having to keep upgrading with newer models in a short time span..
Both of your choices are already outdated models, so fails your no-need-to-upgrade criteria.

Anyway, it's practically quaranteed whether you invest in iOS or Android Honeycomb (and soon to come Ice Cream)....you will be forced to upgrade the hardware every year or less to have the latest full features and functions on each platform.

Personally, I feel if you are a conformist, join-the-club type, go for Apple stuff. If you like to stray on the wild side once a while, try the Android.

[ivanhow]

Apple have more apps & games than Android, at this time.
Many ppl using CIMB itrade platform, uses iOS.
.... so wat functionality are you looking for?
Not so much on games, but more on business app. One that will drive corporate users to switch to tablets in place of laptops/notebooks.
I saw it being used in Changi airport for checking out on flight status, but was not exactly sure if it was ipad or Samsung galaxy tab. :p
Guess with cloud computing, apps need not be stored on the tablet, but run off the cloud computing servers, and all that's needed is a browser.

[FineTuned]

Guess with cloud computing, apps need not be stored on the tablet, but run off the cloud computing servers, and all that's needed is a browser.
Cloud computing is not ready for the big time yet. Maybe in 5 years' time....so say some `experts'. Look at the recent Amazon fiasco.

BTW the apps have to be on your tablet. It's the data and heavy processing that's in the cloud servers. And apps are a way to avoid using the browser for everything. See? We are going back to the good old early pc days...a little piece of software for this, and another little piece for that.... :D

If you are looking for corporate business functionality...there's no fight. The Ipad 2 is undisputed King of the Hill ATM.

[ivanhow]

Cloud computing is not ready for the big time yet. Maybe in 5 years' time....so say some `experts'.
I might be wrong, but isn't fb using cloud computing technology? :confused:

[FineTuned]

Right, and see how many times they've gone down and taken other services with them just this past year. If you had a mission critical business dependent on them 7/24....well, good luck to you, sir.

The problem with cloud computing is that we also need a good, low latency internet connection for it to work smoothly. If you are out in the field in Malaysia...tell me if you think have the confidence to trust it?

[DarkNite]

Not so much on games, but more on business app. One that will drive corporate users to switch to tablets in place of laptops/notebooks.
I saw it being used in Changi airport for checking out on flight status, but was not exactly sure if it was ipad or Samsung galaxy tab. :p
Guess with cloud computing, apps need not be stored on the tablet, but run off the cloud computing servers, and all that's needed is a browser.
If you are part of a corporate then you should be asking your IT admin which os is supported and to wat extend or apps.
I know certain companies support iOS where as others support android but many still nil!
Flight status also depends on airport management.
Manyak confusing world! :D

[patrick]

If you all are really interested in getting an iPad, I can get hold of them through a contact. These are straight, not “off the back of a truck” – they are from a cancelled Hospital contract due to the Government cutbacks.
The numbers are limited - he has twenty iPads going for less than half price – so it’s first come first served. Let me know.

He has already sold one (pic is attached below so you can see what you are getting).

Get back to me as quick as you can if you want one.

Full spec as below...........










http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o60/moothot/Miscellaneous/IPAD.jpg

Heeheee..!! Hey.... some humour doesnt hurt yeah??

:p :p

[besitai2007]

You must figure out what you want to do with these tablets before you buy them. The ipad beats most of the current tablets (Samsung Galaxy Tab, Blackberry Playbook and Motorola Xoom) in terms of its display and it is very fast, in spite of the Motorola Xoom being the first tablet with a dual-core microprocessor. The images on the ipad are sharp and crisp. Photos which look a bit grainy in your computer look fantastic in the ipad screen.

I got the first generation ipad (as a present from my daughter). Given a choice I won't buy one but since I got one I had to find a good use for it. I found that I can use it to read my reference books (A dictionary, thesaurus, Physics, Chemistry, Biotechnology, Biochemistry, Biology, Zoology, Botany plus Dorling Kindersley reference books) in pdf format. I cannot you where I got them (:D). Imagine carrying 10 actual science reference books each about an inch thick and weighing a few kg would be murder on your arm and you can't get a bag big enough to contain them. In my ipad they are just pdf files and the pages look like the real thing and I can turn the pages with the flick of my finger. I have some epub format ebooks : John Grisham, Sydney Sheldon, and Michael Crichton books, for my reading pleasure during breaks.

Also I don't use the 3G but use the wifi connection only (my ipad is the 3G + wifi 64 GB version). My office area in Mont Kiara has the TIME fibre optic broadband wifi for free where I can check my email, facebook entries, tweets and surf the Safari browser before I start work.

I don't play games on my ipad but just play the free Angry Bird now and then. Well, it's not my thing. I listen to relaxing music while I work with the ipad using earphones. These are pretty all the things I do with my ipad.

What I hate about the ipad and also the iphone is that you have to use Apple's itunes to transfer files and this can be a bit daunting if you cannot figure out how to do it.

For my wife, I got her a Samsung N150 netbook for RM900 during the PC Fair at KLCC. This is better than a tablet...cheaper, can surf net, she can chat with my daughter in LA using Skype..write on her LibreOffice free word processor and reply her gmails.

To me, a tablet is just an expensive toy and everyone jumped into the bandwagon because they don't want to be left out as it is the "in-thing". They are expensive, have limited functions..if you want to take photos, buy a camera. A tablet will be just a luxury plaything. Better get a netbook if you want to do serious work.

Cloud computing is the now in-thing catch word and it is not something fantastic...it is just a means to take the load off your server or computer by providing you with online services, e.g. like Hotmail, Yahoo! Mail or Gmail, These can be used in the ipad and tablets as well as in smart phones and we can say then we've had some experience with cloud computing when using these services. Unlike email services which are often free, you may have to pay for some of these web services. Technocrats just like to throw these terms out onto us ignorant lay people :D

[besitai2007]

100% agree ... I found the iPad to be almost "useless" except for looking trendy :p :p
That poor guy in China who sold one of his kidneys to get an ipad must be regretting his decision now. :p

[kuma]

Hewlett Packard to exit computing

BBC:
"Hewlett Packard has confirmed plans to stop making PCs, tablets and phones, in order to refocus on software." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14584428

[FineTuned]

Ipad 2 users can breathe a sigh of relief....the new Ipad 3 won't be coming out next month as expected, but will only be launched in 2012. It will be the same size, at 9.7", but will have an ultra fine resolution of 2048x1536 retina type display (as with the iPhone 4).

Until then, the present Android Honeycomb tablets will remain superior to the iOS tablets in the hardware department. It will be hard to beat Apple in the resolution department if Apple really achieves mass producing this insane display panel. But will your eyes see the difference without a magnifying glass?

Of course, to be able to drive that kind of resolution smoothly, the processor will have to be 2.0GHz + quad core and worlds beyond currently planned graphics units. Oh well, Apple will drive us all to bankruptcy trying to keep up with the Joneses. :D

[DarkNite]

This old man's eyes felt the difference. Feels it is more comfortable especially reading ebooks.

[FineTuned]

This old man's eyes felt the difference.
Wow, you have sampled the new display? Or are you talking about the current display on the iPhone 4?

[FineTuned]

......there are loads of unsold Touchpads languishing in distribution stores across the 4 continents. Maybe we can now pick one up for a song - just for play-play? :D
My wish is coming true....Amazon, Best Buy, etc etc are now dumping Touchpads at USD100 and below! :eek: Apparently HP has released a memo that the price of the Touchpad will be reduced to USD99 from tonight (Saturday in the US.)
I wouldn't mind getting one...if anyone hears of this tablet being available locally, please please let me know!

[leekenny]

My wish is coming true....Amazon, Best Buy, etc etc are now dumping Touchpads at USD100 and below! :eek: Apparently HP has released a memo that the price of the Touchpad will be reduced to USD99 from tonight (Saturday in the US.)
I wouldn't mind getting one...if anyone hears of this tablet being available locally, please please let me know!
the reason its going for such a low price is HP has killed the touchpad and they need to dump whatever stock they have. Still want to buy??

[DarkNite]

Wow, you have sampled the new display? Or are you talking about the current display on the iPhone 4?
IPhone4 and iPad2

[FineTuned]

the reason its going for such a low price is HP has killed the touchpad and they need to dump whatever stock they have. Still want to buy??
HP's decision was in my post yesterday lah. :D

Anyways, the hardware inside the Touchpad is nothing to snear at, it's better than the Ipad 2, and nearly that of the new Galaxy Tab 10.1 except for the lower resolution. Unfortunately, it's beginning to look like WebOS was the culprit in its failure. HP just didn't put enough effort in it to fight the competition.

It may be possible to load some version of Android Gingerbread or Honeycomb on it...... :rolleyes:

Under RM400 for a Touchpad...I'll grab one anyday.

[FineTuned]

IPhone4 and iPad2
Ipad 2 doesn't have retina display, but if you like it...then the new display on the Ipad 3 should blow your mind!

The iPhone 4 display is pretty amazing technology. But I have seen friends struggling to check phone contact details on the tiny 3.5" screen. Maybe they need to hold it nearer to their face or what?

[usj19]

HP's decision was in my post yesterday lah. :D

Anyways, the hardware inside the Touchpad is nothing to snear at, it's better than the Ipad 2, and nearly that of the new Galaxy Tab 10.1 except for the lower resolution. Unfortunately, it's beginning to look like WebOS was the culprit in its failure. HP just didn't put enough effort in it to fight the competition.

It may be possible to load some version of Android Gingerbread or Honeycomb on it...... :rolleyes:

Under RM400 for a Touchpad...I'll grab one anyday.

"AT HP BOOTH 8428 – HP DIRECT COUNTER ONLY

The 16GB and 32GB HP TouchPads will be available for S$118 (S$126 with GST) and S$188 (S$201 with GST) per unit respectively during the first two days of COMEX 2011 (1-2 September 2011). The mode of purchase is cash and carry only, no credit cards or NETs.

These units will be available at HP booth 8428 (specifically the HP Direct counter), Hall 402/403."

from: http://justinlee.sg/2011/08/31/hp-touchpad-will-be-available-at-comex-2011/

[DarkNite]

Looks like there may be hope yet for HP tablet
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/hiner/touchpad-lives-hps-spin-off-pc-unit-may-resurrect-it/9079?tag=nl.e099

[webxcrawler]

used the ipad... so far....

- most frustrating part: NO flash flv/swf media playable in the safari web browser... all u see is a black hole/box in it...

- Youtube is the only app that can play .flv files...(from Youtube site only)

- neither can u download stuff and keep or run 'cept from App Stores...

- third party movies run off a VLC app which for now has been yanked from App Stores...

- No external storage - everything is thru the dreaded iTunes interface...

NOW will either get the Xoom or the Galaxy tab and see if it is better... Dell's Streak 7" taking a long time to get here.... :(

Just want to put some update, lately in 2012 most flash content website such as youtube.com moving forward to support HTML5 . In laymen term is, for tablet support latest web browser mostly can play/view flash media:)

[webxcrawler]

Cloud computing is not ready for the big time yet. Maybe in 5 years' time.....

..The problem with cloud computing is that we also need a good, low latency internet connection for it to work smoothly. If you are out in the field in Malaysia..



Agree with you in term of end user.

[Charbroiled]

Ipad 2 doesn't have retina display, but if you like it...then the new display on the Ipad 3 should blow your mind!

The iPhone 4 display is pretty amazing technology. But I have seen friends struggling to check phone contact details on the tiny 3.5" screen. Maybe they need to hold it nearer to their face or what?I was tempted to get the iPhone sometime back but never quite got down to it and now looks like I won't. The screen size is only a pathetic 3.5"...used to be ok but now with screens as big as 5.3", 3.5" just won't do anymore. :grin2: And yes, size is a big deal! ;-)