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satish
17-03-2003, 10:11 PM
Seat Belts

Was driving in front of Summit shopping centre tonite at around
8.30 pm..

As road was jammed, due to an accident, I decided to do a
survey.

While driving from the Tops warehouse traffic lights towards
the flyover heading for "old" Subang Jaya, I counted 25 car
drivers not using seat belts, although they were installed!

Do Malaysian drivers don't have any concern for their safety?

This goes to show that the Polis are very short handed.

Imagine the revenue they can get for the kerajaan!

2 sens worth

joker2107
18-03-2003, 06:40 PM
driver not using seat belt nothing compared against kids standing and jumping in front passenger seat obviously without seat belt too. often an adult or bigger kid shares the seat with the tiny tot. as tho its not enuf that studies have shown this seat to be the most perilous in the event of an accident. and about the other kids who "take in the breeze" literally by hanging their upper torso out the window of a moving vehicle? :( :( :(

satish
18-03-2003, 11:00 PM
Entrance to S Jaya

I use the "KFC" entry point when I come home every workday.

We diligently make only 2 queue lanes when coming to the entry flyover.
I hate it when there are those inconsiderate drivers, that come screaming to your right hand side, making another 2-3 lanes
trying to squeeze tru the only 2 lanes available!

Of course, this makes the entry point more jammed!
Where are the traffic polis, when u need them.
They can also get revenue for the kerajaan by issuing tickets to those that cross the unbroken lines.

Mayb USJRA can cordinate wz the SJ Polis?

CHeers!

pcyeoh
19-03-2003, 09:19 AM
I think USJRA has better things to do. Trying to educate inconsiderate drivers who if they were to use just a little of their common sense will need no assistance from anybody that queue jumping is selfish and very rude. But if they choose to do that, then they really need not only the summon but somebody to run them off the road and deposit them down the railway tracks below right onto the path of the goods train to be ploughed through by it. You are not alone Satish to feel that way. What I have just described is what I wish for everyday. I really really hate those especially driving the Pajeros, Storm and Ford Rangers who will just cut in at the last centimetre knowing very well that we will give way to them. I don't mind if they were to be polite as to put on their indicator lights and gesture us to give way. If I am in a lousy mood, I will just stop in front of them for just a few extra seconds to signal to them I don't quite like their action. Do you know how to irritate a impatient driver? Just stop your car in front of them, put on your hazard lights, walk out and just open the bonnet as if you are having a technical problem and just sit in. He will try to swerve out in whatever way he can out of the situation and when he has successfully done that, you quickly close your bonnet, accelerate and try by all means try to overtake him. Then, take a look at your rearview mirror and take pleasue to see him fumes. I did that at the SS 19 traffic light when this guy honked me within 0.27 second after the lights turned green and another time within 0.25 seconds at the second lights and I was in no mood to be honked. Well, I lived to tell you this story eh?

JoeJaffar
19-03-2003, 09:56 AM
Cool way to do it pcyeoh :-)
Haven't tried that, but I did this manouver a lot on the highways. I really hate it when I am on the fast lane trying to overtake a lorry or a slower car, the idiot all the way back is already flashing his headlights so that I move back into the slower lane so that he doesn't have to slow down. What I would normally do is to overtake at the minimal speed required to pass the slower car and change lane lazily. Let the bugger wait, he'll definitely be pissed already cos the driver has to brake to slow down :-)

Back to the queue jumping. No matter how wide the road is, even if it's a 10 lane road, this habit will be around. It's a Malaysian thing. These people are actually causing a bigger jam by making others slow down more to accommodate them jumpers.

yokeimmvivian
19-03-2003, 10:02 AM
pc, satish, i share your frustrations. i do the "KFC" every evening. and every evening i have to give way to some obnoxious drivers. see...i drive a kancil. easy target. i was once rudely knocked by a trailer which did the q-jumping trick. my poor car and me rocked like it was the tornedo hitting us. at other times i find me squeezed out of my lane (one of the two legit lanes), which i have dutifully, patiently remained in queue for the last 20 mins. i wish i could do what pc did. tak berani. so i will usually turn on my radio real loud and hope to dispell my frustration. :(

Thoongchai
19-03-2003, 03:23 PM
Suffer the same fate as you guys, how I sometime wish that I am driving a LORRY BALAK and ramm into those inconsiderate road maniacs.

Anyway, can't take the laws into my own hands. Lets start doing what PC Yeoh had done and have fun !!!

xweird
19-03-2003, 04:52 PM
It's a matter of mentality... seatbelts are meant as a precautionary measure, but 99% of the driving time, drivers do not really feel anything remotely secure about using seatbelts; maybe discomfort is felt more.

On the issue of queue cutting, I agree on 2 points: it's a very inconsiderate act, simple example of "my time is more important than yours and it's my right of way and my road".... AND.... queue jumpers inevitably cause the traffic jams that they initially wanted to jump away from... a paradox?

The stretch along Kewajipan in front of the 3K complex (the traffic light under the pedestrian bridge) had been policed by traffic police, who redirected queue jumpers to go straight to the roundabout. A simple solution, but is it effective? I doubt so... till now, some drivers can't bear the thought of going an extra 1 km, maybe extra 5 minutes to go through the roundabout and make a 6 o'clock turn IF they can't make it into the u-turn...

pcyeoh
19-03-2003, 06:29 PM
If you guys wants to have fun with what I did, make sure that you are also well equipped like me. Have a hockey stick in your car but not in the boot for a quick draw. If the police asked about the stick, just say that you have just pick up this game yesterday.

I just got this emailed to me by a single mother on a more tactful way of dealing with people who is horn proned.

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You've probably heard the story of the lady whose car broke down in the middle of a busy intersection. That's a nightmare for all of us, but she kept her head and was doing her best to restart her car. After several attempts, the driver immediately behind her began to mercilessly honk his horn.

After several moments of his incessant "honking," this woman exited her car, walked back to the man in the car behind her and politely said, "Sir, I seem to be having trouble starting my car. If you would be so kind as to help me get my car started, I would be more than happy to sit here and honk for you." The honking stopped!

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The traditional cry for revenge is "A tooth for a tooth" but not for me. I believe in "A tooth for a mouthful of teeth!!" and "If someone slaps me on the left cheek and expects me to offer my right to him as well, then he will be in for a surprise. Instead of offering the right cheek, he will get a punch in the nose." But well, you know lah, women are a more forgiving creature.

Loke
19-03-2003, 06:56 PM
Yes indeed queue-jumpers are an irritating lot. My method of dealing with them is who dares wins. I tail gate the car in front leaving no room for the q-j to cut in regardless to the type of cars they are driving except well the obvious lorry and bus (that one can not main-main-loh). I find this very effective but you have to ensure that your car is aligned with the car in front otherwise you will find yourself squeezed out into no man's lane. When this method fails, I will honk and stare at the driver - ha.
;)

xt900
19-03-2003, 08:34 PM
I don't care about drivers who don't put on their seat belt, if accident occurs, they deserve it. I am frustrated with drivers who don't give signal light before making a turn!!! I also think that cars in Malaysia should be equipped with an extra "U-turn" light indicator.

JoeJaffar
20-03-2003, 09:24 AM
And I thought turn indicators are optional accessories in Malaysia :D

jericho
20-03-2003, 09:39 AM
the next time a queue-jumper try to cut into you lane, stare at him/her and shake you head. they will get a message and they might get a feeling of remorse.

better still, keep a cardboard that says "GOD is looking from above" or something else in your car and show the queue-jumper.

I always interested to find out the reaction of queue-jumpers if they are aware of being caught by camera while queue jumping.

So anyone interested to do an experiment at the KFC entrance during rush hours ? And maybe we can send a tape to the local TV station for prime time news!

jericho
20-03-2003, 09:50 AM
xt900,

sometime giving signal light can work against yourself. just like this morning at the KFC exit toward Fed Hway, i put on the left signal light to indicate that i want to take the left lane to glenmarie (i came fro SS19), instead of slowing down to let me cut into the left lane, the fella behind me on the left lane speed up to close the gap between him and the car in front of him to deny from changing lane. this is the kiasu attitude of malaysian drivers. how sick can they be ?

anyway i managed to squeeze between him and the car in front of him and look at him through the rearview mirror and shook my head. i think he got the message......

xt900
20-03-2003, 04:39 PM
hahaha......typical Malaysia driver's attitude!!! Though that is not what I mean. I was referring to junctions. Drivers intend to turn into junction without giving any signal....and you happened to be there, waiting for your turn to turn out from the junction.

joker2107
20-03-2003, 06:10 PM
one up on u, joejaffar,
:D :D turn indicators are optional accessories unless both (left and right) are turned on together:D :D
sure u fellas must hv seen enuf of these sick sick drivers esp those with handphones glued to their ears.

satish
20-03-2003, 09:44 PM
PCYeoh,
Reason I suggested USJRA to pass the message to the POLIS
that a lot of drivers are breakijg the law, under their noses!
The Polis will listen to USJRA more than listening to individuals.
USJRA is the collective voice of all SJians, rite..?
U want residents to join your Association, thereby increasing
your number/finances?
If not, mayb our elected rep for SJaya can do the honours then?
I can make POLIS report mah..but small voice wz big body!
Over to you PC..

xweird
24-03-2003, 01:08 PM
Basic driving guidelines:

1) If at any time your vehicle speed exceeds 20km/h, wear your safety belt!
2) If at any time there are unsupervised children sitting in your vehicle, secure their seatbelts and yours!
3) If you are riding a motorcycle, wear your helmet!
4) If you have a passenger riding a motorcycle, wear your helmets!
5) If you have 3 people riding a motorcycle, STOP!
6) If you intend to turn, please use the indicator lights (that's signal lights for you!)
7) If at any time any of your vehicle's lights are not functioning, REPAIR them!
8) NEVER tailgate anybody!

empress_julz
25-03-2003, 12:42 AM
malaysians are HORRIBLE queue jumpers.

living abroad has made me a lot less patient for rude people. recently when i was back in malaysia i blasted a whole lot of people who cut my queue on getting up the LRT.

i'm sick of that attitude!!! malaysians respectful? rubbish.

and as for safety belts, they should be on AT ALL TIMES. no matter how slowly you're going. even the ppl at the back should wear their safety belts. that's law around europe.

there was this brilliant ad publicity i saw in england. what happens when the back passenger doesn't wear his safety belt and someone smashes into the car from the back..... the back passenger impacts the front passengers' headrest, and breaks the front passengers neck.

parents.... a spank or two to get your kid to sit still and wear his safety belt in the car won't kill him. allowing him to jump around like a monkey might.