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cml
20-04-2011, 11:09 AM
Why is it the our main elections issues are never an issue in singapore elections? Our opposition politicians always have a field day 'exposing' the living daylights out of what the gomen is doing. What issues do their counterparts from across the bridge have to bring up, aside from the rising costs of living. Most of them are living in their own houses and they do not have to buy crappy cars at inflated prices. So I say over there the opposition very susah cari makan.

Naka
20-04-2011, 11:23 AM
Their pay are mighty high amongst the top five in the world, why susah cari makan?

Rhiga
20-04-2011, 11:25 AM
I beg to differ..

Yes, small rot dot is MUCH BETTER than bolehland as far as social injustice is concerned which include a wide scope in everyday life like meritocracy in education/employment opportunity, public safety, public service accountability, etc, etc.

BUT, if one start to touch the issues on human right suppression, ISA, media freedom, the cons of one-party policy… then this is a totally different scenario and the Sg gomen is playing the similar game like their counterpart in bolehalnd is playing…

Fabe18
20-04-2011, 11:27 AM
It's not all glory in Spore... Have been hearing that constituencies under opposition gets sidelined by the ruling government... expats wouldn't feel much of the effects but the locals will...

Rhiga
20-04-2011, 11:33 AM
Their pay are mighty high amongst the top five in the world, why susah cari makan?



I worked in an oil major in Singapore before, and wife graduated from NUS and worked with Sg government before…

Although the pay is high (largely due to the strong SGD), but other important elements in material life i.e. good car and nice house is a tall order to achieve in Sg.

I said before in other thread – Sg is a fantastic place for expatriate (when everything paid by company), not really a wonderful place for local..

I know, a lot of good Singaporeans migrated to other countries – those left (the mass) are the local Ah Liang and Ah Beng, and the smarter foreigners from Malaysia and elsewhere..

Naka
20-04-2011, 11:36 AM
I tot we are talking abt pollies :confused: :confused:

cml
20-04-2011, 11:42 AM
THats my point, if it is so bad and if it affects the locals, then they should vote the pap out or at least have some representation in parliament. Im sure the spore government would not leave hdb flats un maintained just because they are in the opposition cos it would affect their image. Imagine having san peng flats look alike in singapore. Why dont they just elect some opposition in their parliament. I know it is not our problem but it would be interesting to see how the opposition would manage to bring up issues and what issues can they bring up? They do not have people living in shanty towns or squatter areas (we have plenty of that).

Rhiga
20-04-2011, 11:48 AM
I tot we are talking abt pollies :confused: :confused:

Yup, it is about Sg poll..

If you are a Singaporean, you don’t have much reason/choice but to vote the government, not the opposition because:

1. Not much social issues to complaint.. Maybe the fear of competition from the influx of foreigner can be one of the topic, that's all…

2. In a small island like Singapore, not much issue on Green/environment if compare to the European countries, or the Sydney state government vs Melbourne (you should know what I am trying to say)

3. Not much room for opposition to express as ISA is the stick right above their head…

cskok8
20-04-2011, 11:57 AM
ANY politicians have difficulty to "cari makan" in Singapore. ;)

HTCHONG
20-04-2011, 12:44 PM
The main concern from the ground is the rising cost of living. Recent survey showed that 44% of Singaporeans are feeling the pinch from the rising cost. Housing cost is another pressing issue. On top of it, there are concerns of influx of foreign workers (or foreign talents).

Last week, there was an open forum discussion broadcasted by the TV between PM Lee Hsien Loong and the people from all walks of life (including taxi driver, hawker, student and others). After the discussion, PM Lee told the media’s interview that the forum participants do not pull back their punches and asked him a lot of “good” questions. ;) It is quite obvious that the ground is not happy with the current situation.

Couple months back, government initiated a couple measures to help the hawkers to cope with inflation. One of these measures is to help the hawkers to consolidate their purchases of raw materials. So with the bulk purchasing, it helps the hawker to get cheaper sources. Another measure is to help the rental which is the main bulk in their expenses. By doing so, there are many hawkers pledged not to increase their selling price at least for the next 6 months. On the macro side, lately the government let the Singapore dollar to appreciate which in turn helps to minimise the inflation.

As for jobs security, government is tightening the rules for foreign workers, subsidising companies that hire Singaporeans and if you look at the recruit section in the newspaper, most of the companies are putting up condition such as “for Singaporean or Singapore PR” only.

Today’s Straits Times reported that 12 out of 15 GRCs (Group Representation Constituencies) set for battles in widest contest. Well, I guess, Tanjong Pagar GRC led by LKY will have the walkover.... no one wants to risk losing the deposit, my guess. :D Another walkover will be the Sembawang GRC led by Khaw Boon Wan (Minister of Health). :) Taking for example, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC, it has not been contested since it forms 14 years ago. This time, Deputy PM Wong Kan Seng is going to face Chiam See Tong from SPP (Singapore People’s Party). As for the 12 SMCs (Single Member Constituencies), I guess most of them will be contested.

Well, it is not going to be easy for the ruling party and I can foresee a fierce fight between the ruling party and the opposition. 27 Apr will be the nomination day and the show will start from there on. :D

Naka
20-04-2011, 01:58 PM
Yup, it is about Sg poll..

If you are a Singaporean, you don’t have much reason/choice but to vote the government, not the opposition because:

1. Not much social issues to complaint.. Maybe the fear of competition from the influx of foreigner can be one of the topic, that's all…

2. In a small island like Singapore, not much issue on Green/environment if compare to the European countries, or the Sydney state government vs Melbourne (you should know what I am trying to say)

3. Not much room for opposition to express as ISA is the stick right above their head…

Yes, I agreed with you.

Personally, I tot their Gomen is doing a good job. :D

Rhiga
20-04-2011, 02:15 PM
The main concern from the ground is the rising cost of living. Recent survey showed that 44% of Singaporeans are feeling the pinch from the rising cost. Housing cost is another pressing issue. On top of it, there are concerns of influx of foreign workers (or foreign talents).



I believe the sg government is doing what they can do to help the lower income group in Singapore..

Price increase especially food price is a global phenomenon and the impact is harder in Sg as the country practically has to import everything they need to put in their mouth…

House cost will only get worse. As you mentioned previously in other thread, land is scarce and the scarcity of land will transformed to higher and higher house price…

Will the rising costs (food and accommodation) hit the ruling party and give life to opposition party ? I doubt..

Singaporeans know the opposition can’t do much as far as these two issues are concerned.

I know many Singaporeans are not interested in politics/election especially the younger generation.. And IMHO, the only thing that you can complaint about Singapore is those topics which are normally championed by the younger people – one ruling party, media freedom, ISA, etc..

The older generation won’t challenge the government because many of them know the ruling party under LKY has literally brought Singapore from zero to present..

Fabe18
20-04-2011, 02:34 PM
Actually the urban poors of singapore are stuck... They have no village/kampung to go back to... They are stuck there like it or not... It's not that they are not hardworking, it's just that the global market do not reward based on hardwork.. Earning money in the NEW economy is no long sweat and blood..
It's brain juice and how to make ppl believe in what you have to SELL... even if they don't need it... :p

Rhiga
20-04-2011, 02:53 PM
Not just the urban poor, the average Singaporean are worried and very worried – jobs have to compete with foreign talents, their children in secondary school and university have to compete with foreign students.

We know for sure – students from Malaysia or from other countries who study in Sg, they must be good. The local students (not all are good) but have to compete with the foreign students….. It is tough and stressful..

Those who can’t make it – will add to the urban poor statistics….

Hopefull
20-04-2011, 04:08 PM
Getting back to the topic..how can the opposition politicians survive in Singapore surely not when the PAP government protects itself with the ISA.
Look what happened to poor Jeyaratnam, LKY declared him bankrupt and gave him a miserable life with countless defamation cases.

According to Wikipedia.
The ruling party, the People’s Action Party (PAP) has won every election since 1959 and has 82 of the 84 elected parliamentary seats. Political opposition is technically allowed in Singapore, however many opposition politicians fear being imprisoned, fined, or bankrupted via government-led litigation (with the effect of not only economically destroying opponents, but also disqualifying them from elections) merely for voicing critical opinions.

Rhiga
20-04-2011, 04:19 PM
Getting back to the topic..how can the opposition politicians survive in Singapore surely not when the PAP government protects itself with the ISA.

Look what happened to poor Jeyaratnam, LKY declared him bankrupt and gave him a miserable life with countless defamation cases.



Answer is they can’t and will remain a long time they can't - because of government suppression, and also because not much market for them to sell their product/idea…

It will take a rather considerable time for Singaporeans to reach the level when they oppose to one-party policy like what took place in Taiwan...