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Naka
07-04-2011, 04:41 PM
I thought of posting this under the 'Gardening' thread by VP but I am afraid it will be difficult to locate this subject in the future, hence the new thread.

Here is a photo of a Dragon Fruits Farm in KK. My friend planted abt 1,500 trees & he said $$$$ is rolling in. :D


http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/dragonfruits1a.jpg

Dervish
07-04-2011, 08:12 PM
So they have long narrow leaves. I can see why they are called dragon fruits. Even the plant looked dragonish ...

Naka
08-04-2011, 06:34 AM
Yes, umbrella-like. The height is about 5 ft and on the top, you can attach firmly an old tyre or construct a square timber bracket for the dragon fruits plant to flip over.

Naka
08-04-2011, 09:30 AM
Here is another one courtesy of my friend.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/dragonfruits2a.jpg

Naka
08-04-2011, 09:31 AM
And this is mine, just started :D :D but with great care in the preparation :D ;)

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/IMG_0938a.jpg

Dervish
08-04-2011, 03:31 PM
where's the plant?

Naka
08-04-2011, 07:18 PM
where's the plant?

That was to show the preparation, the plants will come later.

Dervish
08-04-2011, 08:27 PM
Looks elaborate. What's that little black tube like thingy at the bottom in the middle of the wooden contraption?

Naka
09-04-2011, 07:34 AM
Looks elaborate. What's that little black tube like thingy at the bottom in the middle of the wooden contraption?


Good question, hope this photo explains it.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/IMG_0942a.jpg

The timber post is treated pine and I am not sure how long it will last if it is buried in the ground. So for the bottom section, I used metal fencing posts & bolted them together.

The black stuffs are potting mixs ( 10 bags at 40L per bag)

Dervish
09-04-2011, 12:36 PM
alternatively, instead of pine, you could have used some hard wood, then embed them in cement into the ground like what they do with pergolas.

Naka
09-04-2011, 12:48 PM
alternatively, instead of pine, you could have used some hard wood, then embed them in cement into the ground like what they do with pergolas.

Yes, I know.

One 4" x 4" x 7' 0" hard wood cost $55/= but 4 no 3" dia treated pines cost only $20/=, cement another $10.20 My metal fence posts were old ones.

One post only can plant max. 4 dragon fruits but 4 posts easily 12 dragon fruits...see the logic. :D

Dervish
09-04-2011, 12:50 PM
Yes, I know.

One 4" x 4" x 7' 0" hard wood cost $55/= but 4 no 3" dia treated pines cost only $20/=, cement another $10.20 My metal fence posts were old ones.

One post only can plant max. 4 dragon fruits but 4 posts easily 12 dragon fruits...see the logic. :D
Wait! ~~~ *holds up right hand* ~~~ Let me calculate with my abacus first! :D :D

(GTG lunch)

Naka
09-04-2011, 07:07 PM
Wait! ~~~ *holds up right hand* ~~~ Let me calculate with my abacus first! :D :D

(GTG lunch)

How did your maths go?

Here are my dragon fruits...I'll remove the weaker ones after a while.


http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/IMG_1009a.jpg

Dervish
09-04-2011, 08:05 PM
Certainly looked like my aloe vera. Hmmm.... some kind of cactus?

Dervish
09-04-2011, 08:06 PM
is that sweet potato leaves at the bottom LH corner?

Dervish
09-04-2011, 08:09 PM
How did your maths go?
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I've been practising very hard on my abacus. It is a temptation to use calculators but these days I only use a calculator to double check my abacus. I'm not near as good as I want to be but I should be half way there if I can keep up the practice.

Naka
09-04-2011, 08:19 PM
Certainly looked like my aloe vera. Hmmm.... some kind of cactus?

Dragon fruit is actually a cactus family

Naka
09-04-2011, 08:23 PM
is that sweet potato leaves at the bottom LH corner?


I knew you would ask this question. Yes, it sweet potato, ie the ones with a purple color, it's extra sweet.

These sweet potato suddenly became very active and grow very fast.

I supposed they were attracted by the fertile potting mix.

Naka
09-04-2011, 08:24 PM
I've been practising very hard on my abacus. It is a temptation to use calculators but these days I only use a calculator to double check my abacus. I'm not near as good as I want to be but I should be half way there if I can keep up the practice.

so how did your sum work up to be? :D

Dervish
09-04-2011, 08:28 PM
I knew you would ask this question. Yes, it sweet potato, ie the ones with a purple color, it's extra sweet.

These sweet potato suddenly became very active and grow very fast.

I supposed they were attracted by the fertile potting mix.
Are sweet potato climbers? Do I need to build some sort of latice?

Dervish
09-04-2011, 08:28 PM
so how did your sum work up to be? :D
I don't want to talk about it.....:o :o :o ~~~ :D

Naka
09-04-2011, 08:31 PM
Are sweet potato climbers? Do I need to build some sort of latice?

No, not necessary cos' I'll do the harvest next month.

Naka
09-04-2011, 08:32 PM
I don't want to talk about it.....:o :o :o ~~~ :D

:D :D :D

Naka
12-04-2011, 11:27 AM
Here are a few tips:-

1. Distance between next plant...minimium. 5 ft apart.....1ft .deep...cactus family--.fibrous roots is like chop-sticks...
2. Blend 50% organic soil/improver or mixed manure to 50% existing soil in ground...mix well..
3. Water once a day..sprinkler 5 min....cactus family. ( for Oz)
4. Fertilizer—organic is best e.g. urine, so chicken shxxts is good.
5. Nettings or timber to cover the roots from heat.....timber post 5 ft high.
6. Tied with 6” plastic slings to hold the plant upright.
7. Fertilize 3 times a year----Sept-----Dec-----March ( Oz)..monthly in Malaysia.

8. Beware of ants who eat the young bugs
9. Reduce excess branches if plant is weak.

If you know of any, please add.

Dervish
12-04-2011, 11:30 AM
I think it is more troublesome than my azaleas....


Here are a few tips:-

1. Distance between next plant...minimium. 5 ft apart.....1ft .deep...cactus family--.fibrous roots is like chop-sticks...
2. Blend 50% organic soil/improver or mixed manure to 50% existing soil in ground...mix well..
3. Water once a day..sprinkler 5 min....cactus family. ( for Oz)
4. Fertilizer—organic is best e.g. urine, so chicken shxxts is good.
5. Nettings or timber to cover the roots from heat.....timber post 5 ft high.
6. Tied with 6” plastic slings to hold the plant upright.
7. Fertilize 3 times a year----Sept-----Dec-----March ( Oz)..monthly in Malaysia.

8. Beware of ants who eat the young bugs
9. Reduce excess branches if plant is weak.

Naka
12-04-2011, 11:33 AM
I think it is more troublesome than my azaleas....

I don't think so.

Once you have done the preliminary works, the rest is just watering, fertilizing, weeding & trimming.

Just like any plant

Naka
13-04-2011, 07:15 AM
I wanted to upload more fotos but photobucket is down for over 20 hrs :mad:

Naka
14-04-2011, 08:03 AM
http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1124-white-dragon-fruits-10pound.jpg

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/IMG_1168a.jpg


http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1126-kk10.jpg

Some prices of Dragon Fruits

Hong Kong ( from Vietnam ) ranges from HK$5/= each to HK$12/= per pound.
KL side...abt RM$6/- per kg
KK, Sabah...RM$10/= per kg
Perth ...AUD$20/= per kg

Naka
28-04-2011, 03:37 PM
Yellow Dragon Fruit....this is very sweet - like honey & selling at RM$30/= kg in Sabah


http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/DSC01122ab.jpg

Naka
30-04-2011, 03:01 PM
One of my dragon fruits had grown 10" higher since the 15/3/11. :D :D

Dervish
30-04-2011, 04:36 PM
*Stares at abacus with fingers raised. *

~~~ *mental calculations* ~~~ Six weeks ago = 42 days. 10 inches divided by 42 ..... ummmm......

*stares at abacus with fingers still raised*

*keeps abacus in drawer*

Naka
30-04-2011, 07:02 PM
*Stares at abacus with fingers raised. *

~~~ *mental calculations* ~~~ Six weeks ago = 42 days. 10 inches divided by 42 ..... ummmm......

*stares at abacus with fingers still raised*

*keeps abacus in drawer*


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Naka
05-05-2011, 07:32 AM
One of my dragon fruits had grown 10" higher since the 15/3/11. :D :D

Here is the photo.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1842a.jpg

Naka
05-05-2011, 07:34 AM
I just discovered, there is a young shoot from another cutting. :D :D

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1845a.jpg

Dervish
05-05-2011, 11:16 AM
I must congratulate you on the new-born. Have you thought of a name yet? :D

Naka
08-05-2011, 05:01 PM
I must congratulate you on the new-born. Have you thought of a name yet? :D

I had been thinking for the last 3 days....do you object if I called this particular plant Venuspop. :eek: :D :D

Dervish
13-05-2011, 12:21 PM
I had been thinking for the last 3 days....do you object if I called this particular plant Venuspop. :eek: :D :D
:D:D ~~~ No objections! I am honoured. ~~~ *bows* ~~~ Please do not torture the plant when you are upset with my ribbing. :rolleyes:

Naka
13-05-2011, 04:28 PM
:D:D ~~~ No objections! I am honoured. ~~~ *bows* ~~~ Please do not torture the plant when you are upset with my ribbing. :rolleyes:

OK then, the name is settled. When I look at Venuspop, I'll definitely think of you. :D

Today, I noticed another young bud in another cutting.

Please suggest a new name, TQ.

Naka
16-05-2011, 09:18 AM
:mad: :mad: :eek: :eek:

The new 10" shoot is sick...it's rotting away! :eek: :eek:

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1904a.jpg

Dervish
20-05-2011, 01:05 PM
The new 10" shoot is sick...it's rotting away! :eek: :eek:

:eek: :eek: ~~~ Gosh! What happened? What did you do? ~~~ Okay! ~~~ What did you say? :mad: :mad: :p

Dervish
20-05-2011, 01:11 PM
I hope you managed to save it...

Naka
20-05-2011, 02:13 PM
:eek: :eek: ~~~ Gosh! What happened? What did you do? ~~~ Okay! ~~~ What did you say? :mad: :mad: :p

I rang the Nusery & he said it's OK. :eek:

Naka
20-05-2011, 02:16 PM
I hope you managed to save it...

Not satisfied with the Nusery's comment, I rang another friend who said to cut away the rotten plant.

That's what I did. I cut away nearly 50% of that leave.

I'll take a photo of it later.

Naka
20-05-2011, 03:39 PM
Here is how the 10" new leave look like after I cut away the rotten part.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1911a.jpg

Dervish
20-05-2011, 04:42 PM
Too much water lately, perhaps. Or the soil is water-logged? Looks bad. You should give it more TLC and at night, read some bedtime stories...:D

Naka
20-05-2011, 04:54 PM
Too much water lately, perhaps. Or the soil is water-logged? Looks bad. You should give it more TLC and at night, read some bedtime stories...:D

I visit it a few times a day, isn't that a lot of TLC? ;)

You think it's too much water :confused: Definitely not water-logged.

Dervish
20-05-2011, 05:11 PM
How often do you water?

Naka
20-05-2011, 05:53 PM
How often do you water?

Every 2nd day.

Dervish
20-05-2011, 06:02 PM
It's a cactus. They grow under arid conditions. Too much water and they rot.

Dervish
20-05-2011, 06:02 PM
Read somewhere that you should only water when the soil is completely dry and not until.

Naka
20-05-2011, 06:06 PM
It's a cactus. They grow under arid conditions. Too much water and they rot.

I will remember that, VP.

Will adjust the sprinkler system tomorrow to once every 5 days

Naka
26-05-2011, 06:51 AM
That's how they look like on the tree. :D


http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/new%20foods/IMG_1937a.jpg

Dervish
03-06-2011, 09:47 AM
How's Project Dragon coming along?

Naka
03-06-2011, 10:57 AM
How's Project Dragon coming along?

So far so good, there are now 5 young shoots coming out very slowly

Naka
05-06-2011, 11:30 AM
Here is another view.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1933a.jpg

Naka
15-07-2011, 04:42 PM
There are 8 new shoots in my Dragon Fruits but another 7 cuttings remain inactive, maybe too cold.

Dervish
15-07-2011, 04:43 PM
Any pictures?

Naka
18-07-2011, 05:37 PM
Any pictures?


Here is the photo that shows some of them.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/IMG_2049p.jpg

Dervish
19-07-2011, 12:00 PM
Looking good, Bro. :)

Dervish
03-08-2011, 10:54 AM
No updates?

Naka
03-08-2011, 11:19 AM
It's winter, they are all asleep. :D

Naka
29-09-2011, 09:21 AM
The temperature is getting hotter even through Sept is like an extended winter.

My dragon fruits grow abt 1" every 2 weeks

cml
29-09-2011, 02:57 PM
You planting the red or white variety? The red ones eat already, the stools also red in colour.

Naka
29-09-2011, 03:10 PM
You planting the red or white variety? The red ones eat already, the stools also red in colour.

I am planting the red ones & I also have the yellow ones in the nursery.

The white ones are cheap but not the other two

cml
29-09-2011, 04:00 PM
I used to know someone who had a fruit farm in Desaru. He had acres of this planted. He makes a lot of money from taking in tour groups to visit his fruit farms. And people go crazy buying fruits from his farm, most of which are not even grown there!!

Naka
29-09-2011, 04:08 PM
I used to know someone who had a fruit farm in Desaru. He had acres of this planted. He makes a lot of money from taking in tour groups to visit his fruit farms. And people go crazy buying fruits from his farm, most of which are not even grown there!!

Must be selling like hot cakes.


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cml
30-09-2011, 10:55 AM
He charges them 15 bucks for a fruit farm vist and at the end of the walkabout they get a polystyrene box of mixed cut fruits for which i think the cost is less than a ringgit. And he has bus loads and busloads of visitors . During school holidays and weekends buses have to be parked at the roadside. Whenever I see him he smiles and i ask him still laughing all the way to the bank ?? He replies, a little bit la!! A little bit my foot!!

Naka
30-09-2011, 11:15 AM
He charges them 15 bucks for a fruit farm vist and at the end of the walkabout they get a polystyrene box of mixed cut fruits for which i think the cost is less than a ringgit. And he has bus loads and busloads of visitors . During school holidays and weekends buses have to be parked at the roadside. Whenever I see him he smiles and i ask him still laughing all the way to the bank ?? He replies, a little bit la!! A little bit my foot!!

Look at it this way, he has foresight and is harvesting his pain.

I would like to congratulate him :D

cml
30-09-2011, 05:28 PM
When they built the desaru senai highway the government acquired some of his land which splits his farm into two but he walked away with a few million bucks. He got the land only for 30k per acre. I think he was paid 3/400k per acre as it was deemed to be productive land.

Naka
05-11-2011, 08:30 AM
It's time to show you the excellent progress, they are coming up nicely


http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/IMG_3507a.jpg

Naka
05-11-2011, 08:32 AM
When they built the desaru senai highway the government acquired some of his land which splits his farm into two but he walked away with a few million bucks. He got the land only for 30k per acre. I think he was paid 3/400k per acre as it was deemed to be productive land.

Wow, laughing to the banks!

cml
11-11-2011, 02:08 PM
Being cactus type plants I dont think they can take too much moisture. I think during rainy season you might have to shield them from too much rain.

Naka
11-11-2011, 06:01 PM
Being cactus type plants I dont think they can take too much moisture. I think during rainy season you might have to shield them from too much rain.

I say you do not sound positive :D :D ;)

Dervish
11-11-2011, 06:59 PM
I think cml is right. Cactus grow in desert. Arid conditions. Humidity must make them rot. I don't know for sure though. Just guessing.

Naka
11-11-2011, 07:59 PM
A friend advised & said I need a bigger shed at the top.

I am in the process of enlarging it from 12 sf to 36 sf without damaging any of the roots/plants.

Naka
04-12-2011, 04:37 PM
A friend advised & said I need a bigger shed at the top.

I am in the process of enlarging it from 12 sf to 36 sf without damaging any of the roots/plants.

For those following this thread, I had done it 3 weeks ago. The top is about 36 sf. Hopefully it will not be too crowded in future.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/IMG_357o.jpg

cml
05-12-2011, 02:19 PM
Are you sure your pillars can support the weight of the beams? It looks like bamboo to me and your beams seems to be solid wood. Looks a bit top heavy to me. Just my thoughts.

Naka
05-12-2011, 03:16 PM
Are you sure your pillars can support the weight of the beams? It looks like bamboo to me and your beams seems to be solid wood. Looks a bit top heavy to me. Just my thoughts.

The 'pillars' are 3" dia treated pine & they are cheaper & there are 10 of them, factor of safety may be 5.......... :D :D :D ( Jarrah post cost a fortune )

The other 'beams' are jarrah (1.25" x 3" ) & a treated pine.....I am using whatever I have to save $$$.

I think I have over done everything when compare to others

Naka
05-12-2011, 03:33 PM
The 'pillars' are 3" dia treated pine & they are cheaper & there are 10 of them, factor of safety may be 5.......... :D :D :D ( Jarrah post cost a fortune )

The other 'beams' are jarrah (1.25" x 3" ) & a treated pine.....I am using whatever I have to save $$$.

I think I have over done everything when compare to others

Here is a typical kampong dragon fruit setup.

See how simple it is & the farmer is sure to make $$$$.


http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_2882cd.jpg

Naka
08-03-2012, 01:25 PM
I visited my friend's hobby farm last December in Sabah & here is a photo of his dragon fruits over looking the city of Kota Kinabalu.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Dragon%20Fruits/IMG_4912a.jpg

Dervish
08-03-2012, 01:36 PM
That is a beautiful picture, Naka.

What happened to your dragon fruits? Any pictures?

Naka
08-03-2012, 01:50 PM
That is a beautiful picture, Naka.

What happened to your dragon fruits? Any pictures?

Mine? Oh ! I 4got:(....will update later.

Naka
15-03-2012, 08:12 AM
That is a beautiful picture, Naka.

What happened to your dragon fruits? Any pictures?

VP, here it is.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/Bali-2010/IMG_7624b.jpg

lady-o-leisure
17-03-2012, 01:58 PM
wow... so big already! Unfortunately, ours here is looking quite dead now. The weather has been just plain awful. We've had frost problems off and on. Heat off and on also, and i think the plant is at its end. The good thing tho.. when 2 branches broke off, we planted them in another pot nearer to the house wall and it has survived so far and grown rather tall. Maybe we can transplant them to the ground when the weather is better. We're expecting a very cold weekend. Even the passionfruit is struggling to live. siighh..

Anyhow.. yours sure is looking good :)

Naka
17-03-2012, 03:10 PM
wow... so big already! Unfortunately, ours here is looking quite dead now. The weather has been just plain awful. We've had frost problems off and on. Heat off and on also, and i think the plant is at its end. The good thing tho.. when 2 branches broke off, we planted them in another pot nearer to the house wall and it has survived so far and grown rather tall. Maybe we can transplant them to the ground when the weather is better. We're expecting a very cold weekend. Even the passionfruit is struggling to live. siighh..

Anyhow.. yours sure is looking good :)

TQVM, yes, mine is doing well...no complaint so far.....u know the best fertilizer is still organic.

Dervish
19-03-2012, 04:51 PM
They're all grown up, aren't they?

Naka
19-03-2012, 05:00 PM
They're all grown up, aren't they?

So far so good, hopefully to get some fruits as early as next year

lady-o-leisure
20-07-2012, 09:45 AM
Naka.... hubby needs some advice. What do you do with the side shoots that grow here and there? Ours has a lot of little shoots that pop out from the main plant, and we don't know what to do with them. I see yours are neat with just straight plants going up. What to do???

Naka
20-07-2012, 10:13 AM
Naka.... hubby needs some advice. What do you do with the side shoots that grow here and there? Ours has a lot of little shoots that pop out from the main plant, and we don't know what to do with them. I see yours are neat with just straight plants going up. What to do???

I was told to remove most of the side shots until it start to bend at the top, that way all the nutrients are concentrated at the top.

I'll show a photo later of mine

Naka
10-11-2012, 04:21 PM
As of Nov 2012

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_9759dx.jpg

jan tomaswaki
12-11-2012, 04:52 PM
Wow! i only notice you have lots of yellow kangaroo paw.Can they plant in Malaysia/

Naka
15-11-2012, 07:11 AM
Wow! i only notice you have lots of yellow kangaroo paw.Can they plant in Malaysia/

I am not sure if they can grow in Malaysia.

This Yellow Gem is easy to grow. I used to have a few varieties but now only have the yellow & red ones ( bush ranger & big red )

They attract birds that come for the honey.

They flower in September till Feb or March. Not much maintenance and need little water.

Naka
24-01-2013, 09:01 AM
This is my first dragon fruit. There are 3 of them right now & they bear fruits 1 yr 10 months after planting.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_9759x_zps526d5614.jpg

Naka
12-03-2013, 01:41 PM
2 of the ripe dragon fruits

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1388x_zpsca451254.jpg


http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1396x_zpscb83a4c8.jpg

Naka
12-03-2013, 01:42 PM
Time to makan:heheheh: A bit too sweet.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1417x_zps8d78cbbc.jpg


http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1424x_zpscfd17ea5.jpg

cml
13-03-2013, 02:33 PM
Looks good. Enjoy the fruits of your labour. Cheers

Naka
13-03-2013, 02:52 PM
Looks good. Enjoy the fruits of your labour. Cheers

Yes, extra sweet.:cool:

Naka
16-05-2013, 02:54 PM
March-2013 crops

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/IMG_1505x_zps9dfd1a2a.jpg (http://s750.photobucket.com/user/uc-naka/media/IMG_1505x_zps9dfd1a2a.jpg.html)