Homemaker shocked over ‘fake eggs’ find !!

[currymee]

Homemaker shocked over ‘fake eggs’ find

Aiseyman !!!! :( :mad: :mad: :mad:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/7/nation/8433857&sec=nation

[cml]

I thought they only did that in China. The process to make it is very time consuming. Dont know if it would be worthwhile to do that here because labour costs are not cheap.

[VeeJay]

i wonder would they be sending for a chemistry testing, which should reveal a better perspective to the news.

[kuma]

I thought they only did that in China. The process to make it is very time consuming. Dont know if it would be worthwhile to do that here because labour costs are not cheap.

Yep....looks like it takes sometime to make just 1 egg....simpler to leave it to the chickens :D

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[currymee]

Not when bird-flu has decimated half or more of the poultry industry - then the economics will change ....

[leonardchin]

Any reason to produce fake eggs?

Is it something similar concept to that of vegetarian meat?

[kwchang]

This may be a harsh statement but I have personally resolved to avoid all food made (risk of artificial product) and grown (risk of chemicals and heavy pesticide levels) in China. Can't trust the mainland Chinese entrepreneurs ever since their melamine venture (and I read that they haven't even bothered to stop adding melamine to milk products after the discovery)

[Rhiga]

This may be a harsh statement but I have personally resolved to avoid all food made (risk of artificial product) and grown (risk of chemicals and heavy pesticide levels) in China. Can't trust the mainland Chinese entrepreneurs ever since their melamine venture (and I read that they haven't even bothered to stop adding melamine to milk products after the discovery)


Sounds like you will not travel to China, and if you do likely you have to bring along all food and drinks required for the trip…

[Rhiga]

This may be a harsh statement but I have personally resolved to avoid all food made (risk of artificial product) and grown (risk of chemicals and heavy pesticide levels) in China. Can't trust the mainland Chinese entrepreneurs ever since their melamine venture (and I read that they haven't even bothered to stop adding melamine to milk products after the discovery)
let us not belittle our neighbours with the little knowledge of history that we have learnt. Not everyone was a convict in the past and that statement suggest inheritance of bad genes ... totally unacceptable and insensitive. Also breaks our rules in the Forum

kwchang,
Above is the comment from you on one of my posts in other thread…

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Surprisingly, I found a lot of similarities of the above comment (in blue font) with the quoted post and hope you don’t mind I borrowed it (with slight modification) to comment you…

let us not belittle our neighbours with the little knowledge of the country that we know. Not all the entrepreneurs in the country are conmen and that statement suggest generalisation of collective bad business ethics ... totally unacceptable and insensitive. Also breaks our rules in the Forum :mad:

I think the above comment constitute to slander...

Will you banana yourself ??... I would suggest you do

[currymee]

All I know is that when I crack an egg now, I am having a good look at it before cooking/eating .... so sad .... even mundane things also have to be doubly careful :( :( :(

[4everlove]

Maybe Chang can learn to relax a bit. No need to act so 'superior' & ultra righteous' that you have to give banana so easily.

[Hopefull]

If you look at the intensive labor required to produce one egg, one would know that there's no way a fake egg could cost less in production than just buying the real hen eggs...and exporting and storage from China will was also incur high cost :confused:

[aursong]

I think the above comment constitute to slander...

I believe the slander word was highlighted by Raikonnen on your description of Aussies as a whole...

Cheers... :D

[Sentinel]

All I know is that when I crack an egg now, I am having a good look at it before cooking/eating .... so sad .... even mundane things also have to be doubly careful :( :( :(
What do you look for? The words "Made in Guangzhou"? :eek: :D

[currymee]

What do you look for? The words "Made in Guangzhou"? :eek: :D

Hahaha .... I wish it WERE that SIMPLE :p :D - it was mentioned in the newspaper article (see first post) that the yoke and the white are not "properly" separated - normal eggs, the yoke are held in a tight sphere by chalaza (whatever that is) ... ;)

Extracts below:

"When cracked, there was no sign of chalaza, the structure inside the egg that keeps the yolk in place.

“The fake egg white and yolk quickly mixed together, unlike that of real eggs,”

[jimmyay]

Seems like the fake egg is AA grade type, not easily detectable by laymen.

[Naka]

Why do people want to make fake eggs? :confused: :confused:

[RichLock]

Why do people want to make fake eggs? :confused: :confused:
They may be able to foresee in the near future there will have no more chicken on earth to lay their favourite eggs!! It's better to start experimenting now than to wait for that day to come. Remember, practice makes perfect!

[Naka]

They may be able to foresee in the near future there will have no more chicken on earth to lay their favourite eggs!! It's better to start experimenting now than to wait for that day to come. Remember, practice makes perfect!

makes sense...... :D

[Rhiga]

I believe the slander word was highlighted by Raikonnen on your description of Aussies as a whole...

Cheers... :D


Well, what can we do. This is a world full of double standards.

The moderator jumped when I described those down under are descendants of the convicts but he can used a sweeping statement to generalize all the entrepreneurs in China.

kwchang,
May I suggest you change your avatar from one big wide-open eye to half-closed eye..

It suits you well especially when you are making a slander but you don’t banana yourself….as shown in post #7.

[jimmyay]

I wonder how is the costing for this fake egg? How much lower can it get?

[lengho]

Well, what can we do. This is a world full of double standards.

The moderator jumped when I described those down under are descendants of the convicts but he can used a sweeping statement to generalize all the entrepreneurs in China.

kwchang,
May I suggest you change your avatar from one big wide-open eye to half-closed eye..

It suits you well especially when you are making a slander but you don’t banana yourself….as shown in post #7.

like this?

[Rhiga]

like this?

Thanks lengho for the new avatar.

The eyes should closed more – to reflect the magnitude of closed half eye on own self policy…

Cheers

[currymee]

Latest Update on fake Eggs - eggs found in Penang !

Latest update news .... suggest you guys read to know what a fake egg looks like to avoid consumption ....

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/8/nation/8437638&sec=nation

and the rumours on Net ... http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/8/nation/8436852&sec=nation

Interesting to note the chemicals listed ... wow ...

Extracts:

"The e-mail had claimed that fake eggs were full of chemicals, which could result in metabolism disorder, liver diseases and dementia. These were also said to be harmful to brain and nerve cells.

The chemicals used in the so-called “eggs” included glucolactone, benzoic acid, calcium chloride, cellulose, alum amino acid, food colouring, sodium alginate and gelatin.

[Hopefull]

According to some sources these eggs are manufactured by the millions for consumption to the poor third world countries but it managed to be smuggle into to Penang.
Be wary of the next omelette you eat when you visit our Asean neighbours and Nepal too.

[DarkNite]

And worst so far there is no follow up report by the authorities on outcome of their investigation!

[currymee]

"Fake Eggs" also found in Subang Jaya !!! :eek:

Not only PENANG, it is much closer to home than you think - I heard so many stories at school just now about "fake eggs" being found at SS15 market as well !!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

One parent even told me, she saw, felt and touched one -she said if you shake it gently, you can feel that it is like "watery" sloshing inside.

Well, I shook my eggs at home, pretty solid eggs from LTK !! :D

[Dervish]

"Fake Eggs" is SJ !!! :eek:

Not only PENANG, it is much closer to home than you think - I heard so many stories at school just now about "fake eggs" being found at SS15 market as well !!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
There is only one stall selling eggs at the SS15 wet market. Surely they will not risk selling fake eggs here. Maybe those hawkers in night market will sell (hit and run) but I don't think the permanent fellas will.

[currymee]

There is only one stall selling eggs at the SS15 wet market. Surely they will not risk selling fake eggs here. Maybe those hawkers in night market will sell (hit and run) but I don't think the permanent fellas will.

I have no idea about SS15 markets and I really hope so ... you may be right that it may be the night market as the lady did not specify and since I don't patronise the SS15 markets or area - I have absolutely no idea except to note the method she described on how to "spot" a fake !! - SHAKE THE EGG & FEEL for the watery sloshing - if it feels "solid", should be ok.

[currymee]

The thing that worries me the most is that EGG is one of the key ingredient in many of our daily diet and food ... from nasi lemak, CKT , etc etc .... :( :( I may personally be vigilant but no telling what my hawkers will do ..... :( I can't exactly go and shake the hawker's eggs before cooking, can I ?

[Hopefull]

If you are in doubt just buy your eggs from the big supermarkets and btw unfresh real eggs will also sound watery

[currymee]

If you are in doubt just buy your eggs from the big supermarkets and btw unfresh real eggs will also sound watery

So, any eggs that sound watery when shaken is NO GOOD then ... :)

[DarkNite]

Entrepreneurs in China are at it again!
Three children have died in north-west China from suspected poisoning after drinking milk from two local dairies, state media says.

Thirty-five others, mostly children, are being treated at hospitals in Gansu province, officials said.

An initial investigation showed that the victims were poisoned by nitrite, a chemical used in the curing of meat.

The two farms have been sealed off and an investigation is under way, Xinhua news agency reported.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13010267

Back here, what are the authorities doing about the fake egg?

[kuma]

Fake stuff can be found everywhere, but I suppose China takes the lead though :rolleyes:

Here is a video and 'FAKE STEAKS'....well, the 'meat' real though, but 'glued' together to make them look like nice chunky prime cuts :eek:

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[kwchang]

... I suppose China takes the lead though... 'FAKE STEAKS'....well, the 'meat' real though, but 'glued' together to make them look like nice chunky prime cuts...
Sorry, this time, the use of "meat glue" is not a Chinese invention. It was initially done in Europe and when the EU allowed this to be done, the consumers in some north European countries protested.

The process uses thrombin, a protein (taken from cattle or pigs) which is found in blood. You know how blood clots when you have a cut? Well, thrombin is released and it is nature's way of closing the wound by "glueing" the cut skin together so it can heal. This is the same protein used (in powder form) to allow the small chunks of meat to bind together.

In a way, there is no danger because we are not exposed to some chemical but a natural protein found in blood. The issue with the west is that the nice piece of steak they eat is usually rare or medium rare. When you have chunks of meat joined together like that, the meat chunks were handled by hand and exposed to bacteria like salmonella... so the glued meat is contaminated inside. Eating such a rare steak will have the danger of getting food poisoning. If the steak is not from 'glued' pieces, there is no chance of food contamination because the internal part of an entire piece of meat is sterile unlike glued meat. As for Asian cooking, this is not of concern because everything is well cooked. The only concern now is whether the thrombin used is from pigs - then we have a halal issue on our hands.

[birdy]

There is only one stall selling eggs at the SS15 wet market. Surely they will not risk selling fake eggs here. Maybe those hawkers in night market will sell (hit and run) but I don't think the permanent fellas will.
Brother.. there are 2 stalls selling eggs lar, side by side only.

Hmmm... we can avoid buying fake eggs by paying more attention but what about those hawkers? They will just buy and cook, who knows those eggs can be fake and it's not their intention to cook those fake eggs! Arrrghh... what happen to our world?

[birdy]

Guess we have to eat cornflakes as our meal everyday... . :o

[cskok8]

How do you know they are not made from sawdust?? :eek:
100% organic.

[Hopefull]

Why these Chinese chaps want to cheat and want to prosper and send us to hospital, ai yaaa!!very bad one.

[ivanhow]

Sometime back, we bought some eggs from one of the local hypermart, and the eggs have easily broken shells. When broken, the egg yolk easily break as if the yolk already broken or so it seems. Looks like 'sub-quality' eggs, although they are not fake eggs. Believe if we have fake eggs in our midst, they cud be detected by careful examination (hopefully), and then perhaps confirming wiz a half-boiled egg test. It will be scary and a nightmare if the fake eggs cud not be distinguished from genuine ones. Well, when that happens, will have to stop eating eggs altogether. :eek: :o With innovation and entrepreneural brains, am not discounting that this can happen in the future.

Perhaps, the day indistinguishable fake 'eggs' cud be literally manufactured in the factories, we will have to rear our own chicken in our own backyards to get our regular daily supplies reliably. :p Hope these factory-manufactured 'eggs' will not see the light of day. :D

[ivanhow]

Why these Chinese chaps want to cheat and want to prosper and send us to hospital, ai yaaa!!very bad one.
Perhaps to get ready for the day mankind have to migrate to another planet to escape the pollution created by our own doing - be it carbon or radioactive footprint. :eek:

[aursong]

Perhaps, the day indistinguishable fake 'eggs' cud be literally manufactured in the factories, we will have to rear our own chicken in our own backyards to get our regular daily supplies reliably. :p Hope these factory-manufactured 'eggs' will not see the light of day. :D

I thought the "fake eggs" incident is already being proven as a hoax? the "fake eggs" was prove to be genuine chicken eggs from DNA analysis...

http://www.mysinchew.com/node/55923

http://www.nkkhoo.com/2011/04/11/those-people-come-out-fake-eggs-must-be-geniuses/

[Hopefull]

This eggs story is over go and enjoy your roti telor but be wary of the cakes and pastry that is manufactured by these well know bakeries as it was reported that the lowest grade is used for making them. Yuks!

[DarkNite]

I thought the "fake eggs" incident is already being proven as a hoax? the "fake eggs" was prove to be genuine chicken eggs from DNA analysis...

http://www.mysinchew.com/node/55923

http://www.nkkhoo.com/2011/04/11/those-people-come-out-fake-eggs-must-be-geniuses/
Apparently not, here in Pulau Tikus Penang, some aunties says by the time word got out, all the fakes vanishes before the Dept comes to take sample. :D
Knowing how efficient gomen depts works, I'm now very confused & cautious as to who I purchased the eggs from.

[currymee]

Apparently not, here in Pulau Tikus Penang, some aunties says by the time word got out, all the fakes vanishes before the Dept comes to take sample. :D
Knowing how efficient gomen depts works, I'm now very confused & cautious as to who I purchased the eggs from.


SHAKE THE EGGS !!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

[tupai]

the Money Come Agency past&present sinisters know how to make money lah. Think of those money making ideas (some deader than dead other still churning out loadsa ca$h) from them:
- speed detector/tracker in vehicles
- hologram in medical packaging (why not serialise each tablet? or dna the liquid?
- hologram on cosmetic packaging
- dlla lagi...

also ah, Akan datang *jeng!jeng!jeng!* hologram'd vehicle # plates, yes front & back! :mad:

Serialise the eggs indeed! Easier to do that on just his 2(?) eggs lah!Twit! :cool:

Yang Amat Benggung TonUtamaIstimewa xlatotupai :cool:

[aursong]

Apparently not, here in Pulau Tikus Penang, some aunties says by the time word got out, all the fakes vanishes before the Dept comes to take sample. :D
Knowing how efficient gomen depts works, I'm now very confused & cautious as to who I purchased the eggs from.

aunties says a lot of stuffs...

a complaint was lodged to the Consumers Association of Penang (CAP) by a woman over a tray of 30 eggs she bought from the Pulau Tikus market

and the Penang folks never kept some sample of the "fake eggs"???
particularly this woman...

[ivanhow]

I thought the "fake eggs" incident is already being proven as a hoax? the "fake eggs" was prove to be genuine chicken eggs from DNA analysis...

http://www.mysinchew.com/node/55923

http://www.nkkhoo.com/2011/04/11/those-people-come-out-fake-eggs-must-be-geniuses/
Believe the 'fake eggs' have not reached the shores of this country as yet, that those eggs cud just be sub-quality ones, of which the hen might have been fed with low quality chicken feeds and hence produce sub-quality eggs, which is quite possible.

'Fake eggs' that are being 'manufactured' in China are experimental ones that have not been perfected to the extent they cannot be distinguished from the ordinary ones, and that they still need the manual process of 'making' them. Hence unprofitable and unsellable.

The Chinese in mainland China are just simply brilliant but subtle when it comes to innovation. They have not reached the stage where the eggs are 'equal' but may look alike in some characteristics, hence still in experimental stage. The day may come when the 'manufactured' ones become at par with the genuine ones (organically produced) to the extent it may takes an experienced hand to separate them apart. But before they reach the shores of this country, they must be able to withstand the tests of the local consumers.

[DarkNite]

aunties says a lot of stuffs...

a complaint was lodged to the Consumers Association of Penang (CAP) by a woman over a tray of 30 eggs she bought from the Pulau Tikus market

and the Penang folks never kept some sample of the "fake eggs"???
particularly this woman...
CAP president says they did, but apparently the gomen dept have approach them yet.