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cml
04-01-2011, 11:50 AM
It appears that Axiata have appointed KPMG to do a forensic audit of Alcatel claims that they have bribed some of their people to provide insider information on bids submitted by other contractors. Without even reading further as to the rational for the appointment i think it is rather silly or a complete waste of time and money . If bribes had indeed been paid do they seriously think that the recepients would tell their employers that they have received bribes or would they have banked in the proceeds of the amount received and put it as a bribe received in their accounts?? Makes no sense to me. Alcatel would also not declare in their bid that they had insider information and that their bid was lower than all the other bidders. Just does not add up.

Sentinel
04-01-2011, 02:20 PM
They did buy Alcatel but after buying Alcatel, they discarded the system, nobody got the sack then? Talking about having the cake and eating it at the same time.

Announcing the appointment of the auditors from KPMG is just to soften the blow and buying time and soon after the heat is off, semuanya pun dilupakan... biasalah Bolehwood!

megatron
04-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Funny that only now Axiata is aware of commission issue. In most big organization, everyone knows the "purchaser" enjoys lots of benefits, whether monetary or in kind. It is not restricted to Axiata or TM.

currymee
04-01-2011, 03:11 PM
Why KPMG and not MACC ? - Did KPMG give assurances that NO Alcatel or Axiata officers will be flying out the windows from 15th floor ? ;)

If KPMG can do a better job than MACC, might as well hire them as the new INDEPENDENT MACC - OUTSOURCING mah !!! :p :p :D :D

cskok8
04-01-2011, 03:34 PM
Alcatel has admitted to their "crimes" and paid fines to Uncle Sam. So now all remains is to find the recipients of the so-called "CONsulting fees". Most likely they will trot out some junior execs as the culprits and all will be OK. :mad:

cml
04-01-2011, 04:00 PM
No body will pay the junior execs. They may be in on it but the lion's share is reserved for the lion. The lions would have left some leftovers for the junior executives to fight over.

Sentinel
04-01-2011, 04:53 PM
Funny that only now Axiata is aware of commission issue. In most big organization, everyone knows the "purchaser" enjoys lots of benefits, whether monetary or in kind. It is not restricted to Axiata or TM.
Is that so... so which purchasers / big organizations are on the take? :eek:

megatron
05-01-2011, 10:13 AM
Is that so... so which purchasers / big organizations are on the take? :eek:

A lot but those on the take are mostly individuals, not organizations. Cannot name the organization they work in here. I know lots of commission agents (not politically related one) and have seen many payouts myself.

I think you are aware that paying out commission is so common, just that so many biz people accepted it as a way of doing biz. I am not saying it is right.

Sentinel
05-01-2011, 01:14 PM
A lot but those on the take are mostly individuals, not organizations. Cannot name the organization they work in here. I know lots of commission agents (not politically related one) and have seen many payouts myself.

I think you are aware that paying out commission is so common, just that so many biz people accepted it as a way of doing biz. I am not saying it is right.
Yes, I am aware of paying of commission being common but is paying fees and commissions illegal or wrong?

cskok8
08-01-2011, 10:12 AM
Today's STAR say no senior TM executives were involved in any shady deals. ;)

So probably some purchasing clerk or storekeeper were the culprits.

cml
08-01-2011, 11:04 AM
I think it is the office boys. Did you see the pig that flew across your window just now? One just did. You have to believe me because I am your 1leader. What I say is the truth and absolutely the truth and nothing else.

Sentinel
08-01-2011, 10:18 PM
Today's STAR say no senior TM executives were involved in any shady deals. ;)

So probably some purchasing clerk or storekeeper were the culprits.
Hey Doc, those Murcielagos and Quattroportes at the basement carpark at Menara Telekom belong to the clerks, serious... no joking joking one...

USJ27Resident
09-01-2011, 12:33 AM
A lot but those on the take are mostly individuals, not organizations. I think you are aware that paying out commission is so common, just that so many biz people accepted it as a way of doing biz. I am not saying it is right.

Not organisations meh? The biggest ORGANISATION that TAKES the biggest cuts/commisions or whatever you wanna call it, sits at the crossings of 2 rivers in the heart of KL.

I have a friend (in the clothing business) who bids for a lot/stall every year - instead ends up 'paying a higher price' for her space to trade, from a "crony" who every year get a space even though he doesn't do business...
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sentinel
09-01-2011, 03:43 AM
Remember a few months ago the Australian government announced that someone from MoF or Bank Negara was paid AUD$4 million for authorizing the purchase of our polymer RM5 currency notes... wahlaueh MACC made big announcement it will leave no stone unturned lah etc etc... big hooha but did anything happen? Tadak! Semua diam-diam sahja... is this the Malaysia we want our kids and grandkids to inherit?

And then Bank Negara announced the NS punya MB transferred RM10 million to London using a money changer and even named the Pm's wife for transferring RM400K also using the same method, apa jadi? Habuk pun tadak! Semua sandiwara, semua wayng kulit, semua opera aje... :mad: rakyat Malaysia aje yg bodoh dan haprak!