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currymee
01-09-2010, 02:51 PM
NEM is a progressive NEP, says Najib :p :D :D

I guess he has to say something in reply to Tun M and Ibrahim Perkasa ..... just taruh-lah ..... ;) :D :D

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/nem-is-a-progressive-nep-says-najib/

jimmyay
01-09-2010, 03:04 PM
Actually, when did Malaysian-Chinese reach Malaysia and become 'prosperous'? Then how many year NEP or these one-sided policy need to be in place to abuse Msian-Chinese for this 'inequality'?

Rhiga
01-09-2010, 03:21 PM
Jim,

Maybe a simple example below can answer your question.

This story is actually from the Tun apanama..

He visited Sekinchan and talked to the padi farmers there..I mean those “prince of land” padi farmers there..

He realized the yield (harvest per acre) is hugely different between those belonged to the prince of land compare to the yield of those belonged to the Chinese padi farmers.

So he asked them why: They reply is – these padi field is belonged to Chinese farmers, that’s why the yield is higher.

From the answer, you can gauge the root cause of the problem – the MENTALITY.

The mentality which refuse to look at own weakness, but balme on other's success.

joni
01-09-2010, 03:50 PM
Well well well . . . keep trying

NEP in 1971 to 1990, :eek: 20 years
NDP in 1991 :eek: for another 20 years
NEM in 2010 , it is better and progressive :eek: for another 20 years
then what ? NE1 :eek: for another 20 years

Never mind lar , generous a bit, we allow for another 20 years , make it 100 years, easy to remember, see what is going to happen :D :mad: :D :p :D

bslee
01-09-2010, 04:54 PM
Actually another bigger farce is total protection of local motor industry since mid 80's. Its become rediculous and never now in the best interests of motorists. Its just rediculous. How can you pay 6 figures for a car thats not the actual value? There's a bigger picture than just the cost and it never primarily mean it'll result in more cars on the road. The policy is more punitive than preventive measures. Old cars tend to have more pollution and burn more fuel. There's loads of other reasons. C'mon, the protection is quarter of a century already. Nope..its NOT farnie! :mad:

cml
01-09-2010, 05:12 PM
For every proton that we buy a simple guess of around 20k is the amount that we pay over and above the market rate. Actually this is not a guess but rather the price that is sold overseas for a similar type of car. This 20k translates to the inefficiency and the leakages from proton in the form of substandard components like power windows, door handles that break and so on. We the rakyat have been subsidising i would say 20k towards proton and those dependent on it like the component manufacturers and so on. This 20k could have been spent by us ourselves and the money would have a much greater multiplier effect on the entire economy rather than on just proton and its beneficiaries. Just think about it. 20k times the total number of cars sold by them.

joni
01-09-2010, 05:34 PM
PROTONG is doing what they do best(they think), they r not going to stop unless end users stop them. So long that our conscience is clear , just let it be , let them do what they like ; sell higher to make more money.

If PROTONG is so sucessful, why merger with Protongdua is require ?? Who is the White knight and who needed to be rescued ??

my opinion Buy car when u needed , suffice your need NOT want ; buy other brand albeit it cost extra and you feel good about it, and proud of urself :D .

bslee
01-09-2010, 05:42 PM
PROTONG ...............snipped

So sorry folks, but this is NOT about the companies involved but rather THE POLICY and its continuance. Its become A BIG PROBLEM and a BURDEN!
I've no other words (unless I start being foul) except that its become rediculous and now defying common logic for the rakyat at large.

Raikonen
02-09-2010, 08:27 AM
PROTON is a big mistake by the Apanama PM...which all the people has to suffer poor quality national cars and exhorbitant prices for non national cars.

As for NEP, it is a Never Ending Piratisation of this country. I don't foresee it ending in the next 100 years.

Fabe18
02-09-2010, 09:18 AM
PROTON is a big mistake by the Apanama PM...which all the people has to suffer poor quality national cars and exhorbitant prices for non national cars.

As for NEP, it is a Never Ending Piratisation of this country. I don't foresee it ending in the next 100 years.

Proton could have made it if it did its job right... But it's been open secret among those linked to the company that there's a lot of inefficiency and corrupt practices....

cml
02-09-2010, 09:25 AM
give them crutches, how do you expect them to run on their own and they are so comfortable with their crutches because all their competitors have their legs tied together how tocompete with them.? So they think they very clever buy a pair of nike ala lotus and by wearing them think that everyone would believe that they are bolt!!!.

isarahim
02-09-2010, 10:55 AM
It's totally correct what many people here and elsewhere are saying but unfortunately spelling out far too seldom:

The losers of NEP are the Malays. The more you prolong this drug the more the Malays will degenerate.

Use measure of poverty definition (e.g. family income etc) to fight poverty. As long as you use race definition to fight poverty it will never succeed.

cml
02-09-2010, 11:27 AM
IMHO i do not think that it is possible for the gomen to increase the tax rates without causing a huge backlash from the investing public and foreign investors. So what is the next best thing, have a bigger net cast in the form of vat so that more if not everyone is taxed and by making it appear small in relation to the total cost it is hoped that the public would fall for it. This time it cuts across all races and economic sections of society. The ones who are better off would feel it less because it is smaller in relation to their income. Again the poorer sections of society would face the brunt of this tax. The issue here is whether the tax collected is being used in the proper manner and from previous experience and even what is happening now it does not appear to be so. The question now is if our hard earned money is not put in good use by the present gomen should we do something about it? Or do we let them do to us like they have been doing for the past umpteen years and console ourselves that it could have been worse?

Sentinel
02-09-2010, 02:03 PM
Actually another bigger farce is total protection of local motor industry since mid 80's. Its become rediculous and never now in the best interests of motorists. Its just rediculous. How can you pay 6 figures for a car thats not the actual value? There's a bigger picture than just the cost and it never primarily mean it'll result in more cars on the road. The policy is more punitive than preventive measures. Old cars tend to have more pollution and burn more fuel. There's loads of other reasons. C'mon, the protection is quarter of a century already. Nope..its NOT farnie! :mad:
How could the local motor industry be a bigger farce than the NEP? NEP was across the whole spectrum of life while the local car industry only affected the car industry and car buyers? I don't get it...

gary yap
02-09-2010, 03:19 PM
Statistics by Merdeka Centre showed more than 70% of the Malays surveyed said the downfall of the Malay are caused by their leader's corruption.

jimmyay
02-09-2010, 03:24 PM
Statistics by Merdeka Centre showed more than 70% of the Malays surveyed said the downfall of the Malay are caused by their leader's corruption.

The other 30% are the corrupted too when they say otherwise. :mad:

cml
02-09-2010, 03:28 PM
If they know they should do something about it. Nobody can help them if they do not help themselves.

Nick Chia
02-09-2010, 04:39 PM
The constant call for extension of the NEP which is supposed to end in 1990 , showed that it only fail to benefit the majority. As like the chinese family business, it last only one generation.

This so as the fisherman feeds the familly with too many fishes but the family are not taught how to fish. When it is time to teach them, they are too comfortable that they can afford to buy fish.

When a catastrophe crisis occurred in the future, they will be left behind again. Money earned now is not yours unless you spend it and you cannot take it with you when you die. What happens to your wealth depends on your children's vision and discipline. There is nothing you can do after death.

So do not worry too much about NEP but instead use your PEN to work.

joni
02-09-2010, 06:00 PM
The other 30% are the corrupted too when they say otherwise. :mad:

They are 70% honest people :p. and the statistic reflecting real facts. They agreed to that because they r not in the right team and they don't benefits from it. :(

The balance of 30% is riding on the bandwagon laughing to the bank.