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currymee
23-08-2010, 08:45 AM
Is the old 555 notebook or the new iPad better?

The old 555 notebook was "killed" by filofax which in turn was kaput-ed by PDAs and now .... seriously, I am already starting to "dumb down" my gadgets .... I am actually enjoying using the old 2B pencils that Lick Hung insists that the kids must use in school :p - nothing beats the sharpening of pencils to start the day (apart from a nice hot bowl of currymee :rolleyes: ) - it is like the mental "cranking" up of the brain !!

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/8/23/columnists/mondaystarters/6878162&sec=mondaystarters

currymee
23-08-2010, 08:55 AM
IMHO, two major avantages 555 notebook has over iPad:

1) NOBODY WANTS TO STEAL IT !! :D
2) Your heart don't break IF you drop it !!! :p :p

PS: I don't carry a 555 notebook myself but an old-flowery thick cover Quattro size 400 pages notebook :rolleyes:

DarkNite
23-08-2010, 09:08 AM
additional major advantages 555 notebook has over iPad:
3) Requires NO power source.
4) Instant boot-up
:D

HTCHONG
23-08-2010, 09:53 AM
additional major advantages 555 notebook has over iPad:
3) Requires NO power source.
4) Instant boot-up
:D

Put in your pocket and carry with you wherever you go. :D :D

currymee
23-08-2010, 09:54 AM
And with so little "memory" and limited hard-disk space (pages), you only STORE IMPORTANT STUFF and REMOVE/FILTER the junk out .... talk about "in-built" prioritisation and discipline. :rolleyes:

currymee
23-08-2010, 10:09 AM
One of the bad habits that we have developed as a result of having cheaper and cheaper and larger HD space is that we tend to keep a lot of stuff (GBs) whether it is useful or not ... I blame this "idea" on Gmail for promoting "keep ALL your emails - don't have to delete" mantra ... now we have TBs of photos, videos, music, documents etc .... UNLIMITED CONSUMPTION ... I think the world needs a return to frugality and scarcity ... we are killing the environment and overusing the resources ....

An example that BSLee will like is cars ... nowadays, we hear of people changing cars every 2-3 years, while a few decades ago, people don't change cars UNLESS it is totalled in an accident or broke down beyond repairs and ownership is like at least 10 years !!

fRaNkY
23-08-2010, 11:46 AM
555 lives! You can still buy 555 around here.... probably popular. However, it cannot take the heat... whenever I sweat, it melts :D It would be good if they come out with a plastic cover.

Netbook, ipad and pda are just expensive toys which needs battery.

I still carry a piece of recycle piece of recycle A4 paper folded into my pocket than carry around the thick heavy management folder/filofax/diary the company provides... nak cabut meeting diam2 lagi senang :D

For ipad u hafta buy the softwares... nice to have but not for working...a mini version of ipad is the ipod touch.

Dervish
23-08-2010, 11:51 AM
What was the 555 booklet originally used for? I remembered that they used to be real small. And why 555 and not 888 or 999?

fRaNkY
23-08-2010, 12:12 PM
Ancient way of bookkeeping :D and very efficient summore.

Dervish
23-08-2010, 12:19 PM
ahh... was that the way they sell groceries in the past? A list of all the creditors for easy collection?

Sentinel
23-08-2010, 12:49 PM
What was the 555 booklet originally used for? I remembered that they used to be real small. And why 555 and not 888 or 999?You must be very young.... relatively.

Let me tell you how I first used the 555 notebook, as a notebook kept by a man known as Rasool, the proprietor of the canteen we undergads at Econs Faculty at UM called "The Cowshed"....

You see, we had no money in the pocket... practically broke you might say. We only saw some money end of the month when our parents sent us a Postal or Money Order or for some of us when we received our monthly bursary or loan from the Lee Yan Lian Foundation or Lee Rubber Foundation or State Government Bursaries lah.... or when parents of some of our tuition students paid us the tuition fees.

But we needed food to survive. So we ate first and paid later. We eat our 2 roti canai garing with teh-O (about total 90 sen back then) and Rasool will write down in a 555 notebook "90 sen" and we just signed at the side lor...

End of the month we would pay Rasool for whatever we have signed for.... and if we still haven't got our money yet to pay Rasool, we go eat in the canteen at the Arts Faculty concourse and open another 555 account there lor.... :D

p.s. remember the late singer / lawyer Sudirman Haji Arshad? He was a Petronas scholarship holder and yet he has one of the most 555 accounts throughout the entire campus.... ha ha! We had fun.

HTCHONG
23-08-2010, 12:55 PM
What was the 555 booklet originally used for? I remembered that they used to be real small. And why 555 and not 888 or 999?

The purpose, it is simple. When I was young, I used to hear this at the coffee shop near my dad’s shop… “Kopi O satu …otang !”.. at month end, the coffee shop owner will collect money from his customers by checking his 555 book. Amazingly, the customers would not question and paid as the shop owner told. :D

Thinking about it, the society then was poor but people were honest and simple. :)

Dervish
23-08-2010, 12:56 PM
You must be very young.... relatively.

Let me tell you how I first used the 555 notebook, as a notebook kept by a man known as Rasool, the proprietor of the canteen we undergads at Econs Faculty at UM called "The Cowshed"....

You see, we had no money in the pocket... practically broke you might say. We only saw some money end of the month when our parents sent us a Postal or Money Order or for some of us when we received our monthly bursary or loan from the Lee Yan Lian Foundation or Lee Rubber Foundation or State Government Bursaries lah.... or when parents of some of our tuition students paid us the tuition fees.

But we needed food to survive. So we ate first and paid later. We eat our 2 roti canai garing with teh-O (about total 90 sen back then) and Rasool will write down in a 555 notebook "90 sen" and we just signed at the side lor...

End of the month we would pay Rasool for whatever we have signed for.... and if we still haven't got our money yet to pay Rasool, we go eat in the canteen at the Arts Faculty concourse and open another 555 account there lor.... :D

Thank you for enlightening me. Thank goodness they no longer practice 'Eating on Credit' in canteens these days. Else, we parents will be 'pokai' with our children's expensive taste.

What about the numbers, 555? Had that anything to do with food mostly costing 5 sens in those days?

Dervish
23-08-2010, 12:57 PM
The purpose, it is simple. When I was young, I used to hear this at the coffee shop near my dad’s shop… “Kopi O satu …otang !”.. at month end, the coffee shop owner will collect money from his customers by checking his 555 book. Amazingly, the customers would not question and paid as the shop owner told. :D

Thinking about it, the society then was poor but people were honest and simple. :)
But then again, in those days, everybody knows everybody else, so if one doesn't pay, I guess the whole town gets to hear about it? Not like now....heck I don't even know my neighbor's name....:)

Sentinel
23-08-2010, 01:00 PM
555 was actually pronounced Tiga Lima... and there was also a very popular cigarette brand then known as State Express 555 from MTC... second in popularity then to Benson & Hedges. 555 was the first cigarette that started the mini-packet of 5 sticks for 30 sen.... can easily hide the whole pack easily in the school bag.... :eek: :D

HTCHONG
23-08-2010, 01:01 PM
But then again, in those days, everybody knows everybody else, so if one doesn't pay, I guess the whole town gets to hear about it? Not like now....heck I don't even know my neighbor's name....:)

Venuspop..you are yet to know someone who might abuse your trust .well... :D :D :D

HTCHONG
23-08-2010, 01:03 PM
555 was actually pronounced Tiga Lima... and there was also a very popular cigarette brand then known as State Express 555 from MTC... second in popularity then to Benson & Hedges. 555 was the first cigarette that started the mini-packet of 5 sticks for 30 sen.... can easily hide the whole pack easily in the school bag.... :eek: :D

Sentinel..when I was young, I used pronounce 555 as Tiga ..Li..*..Ma. :D :D :D

Dervish
23-08-2010, 01:06 PM
555 was actually pronounced Tiga Lima... and there was also a very popular cigarette brand then known as State Express 555 from MTC... second in popularity then to Benson & Hedges. 555 was the first cigarette that started the mini-packet of 5 sticks for 30 sen.... can easily hide the whole pack easily in the school bag.... :eek: :D
Ahh... I see. So if you buy an entire carton, you get a free 555 booklet. The booklet started off as a premium for the cigarettes....right? :D

Dervish
23-08-2010, 01:08 PM
Venuspop..you are yet to know someone who might abuse your trust .well... :D :D :D
:D.....yes..safer to trust no one, right?..."No otang! Want kopi-o pay now!!"

HTCHONG
23-08-2010, 01:10 PM
Ahh... I see. So if you buy an entire carton, you get a free 555 booklet. The booklet started off as a premium for the cigarettes....right? :D

No lah. The cigarettes and the 555 booklet sell separately. :)

Dervish
23-08-2010, 01:12 PM
No lah. The cigarettes and the 555 booklet sell separately. :)
OK. :) Noted.....I thought I'd just made a life-changing discovery...:D:D

chsum
23-08-2010, 01:12 PM
err..tell u a story 6-7 yrs ago, I was using 555 notebook (n now oso) to note my daily errands and reminder to stuff (ayam vely forgetful), one of my friend just laugh at me when i took it out from my pocket n he show me the state of the art inotebook elec gadget n boast can store 1million more stuff than my book :( , 4-5 yrs later I still kept the old notebook n can tell u what I did at that perticular date, my friends gadget lost all info when his HD kaput with no back up ;) now he uses a 555 notebook.
end of story

my 555 sense

tupai
23-08-2010, 01:14 PM
i still use the 555. Today it keeps tab on my bikes' service records, mileage from say Bangkok to Poipet, price of fuel from kl to vietnam, tyres changed at what km, and price of KNN air filter etcetc...

Its just a smaller size light wt management diary of sort.

Nothing beats having a daily to diligently jot down stuff when u enter the professional workforce...imagine reading the dairy now, on what you have written during a meeting some 10-15years ago! Hilarious! and all those ideas and concepts scribbled there were like WoW! :eek:

I have management diaries and note books going back 10-15yrs! Hilarious and astounding to flash back!

Oh, 555 was a famous cigarette brand then. This 555 is almost like a ledger for the shopkeepers, tuckshop and kopi tiam bosses...Yeah, seemingly people then are diff from now...more honourable and will not cabut from their debts *tabik spring*

Yang Berguna 555 lagi latotupai :D

bslee
23-08-2010, 01:19 PM
I may be mistaken but this amazing notepad have been around for as long as I can possibly remember, perhaps from the early 60's.
The last my family saw this in use was by the friendly home2home trotting breadman who gave credit terms for delivered bread loaf. Buku hutang??
I wonder which other country (maybe excluding S'pore?) have these in circulation.
Just another amazing item in local culture. Perhaps mostly underrated and not entirely forgotten.

Sentinel
23-08-2010, 01:24 PM
I may be mistaken but this amazing notepad have been around for as long as I can possibly remember, perhaps from the early 60's.
The last my family saw this in use was by the friendly home2home trotting breadman who gave credit terms for delivered bread loaf. Buku hutang??
I wonder which other country (maybe excluding S'pore?) have these in circulation.
Just another amazing item in local culture. Perhaps mostly underrated and not entirely forgotten.
You can still buy the 555 notebook here in some old stationery shops in Penang... my father-in-law still uses them.

Dervish
23-08-2010, 01:26 PM
I may be mistaken but this amazing notepad have been around for as long as I can possibly remember, perhaps from the early 60's.
The last my family saw this in use was by the friendly home2home trotting breadman who gave credit terms for delivered bread loaf. Buku hutang??
I wonder which other country (maybe excluding S'pore?) have these in circulation.
Just another amazing item in local culture. Perhaps mostly underrated and not entirely forgotten.
It will be, trust me. Many a times I saw these little booklets on stationery shelves and looked at it perplexed. I didn't know it had such a 'rich' past. Give it another ten years and these booklets will disappear from the shelves, to be sure. Children nowadays will not be seen with any 555s in their bags. They'd only carry high-tech pens, like gel pens. :)

Sentinel
23-08-2010, 01:33 PM
It will be, trust me. Many a times I saw these little booklets on stationery shelves and looked at it perplexed. I didn't know it had such a 'rich' past. Give it another ten years and these booklets will disappear from the shelves, to be sure. Children nowadays will not be seen with any 555s in their bags. They'd only carry high-tech pens, like gel pens. :)My wife also keeps a 555 book on her grocery expenses including going to the wet market. End of the month she kira with me lah...

And if I grumble why the bill for the month is so big, she will also show me items that I always ask her to buy for me like.... Heineken, Cod Fish, Big-Headed Prawns, Crabs, Pomfret Fish.... so cannot argue lor...

Justme123
23-08-2010, 01:35 PM
Just checked, our breadman still using the 555 notebook.

Dervish
23-08-2010, 01:44 PM
Just checked, our breadman still using the 555 notebook.
What - here?...In USJ!!? :eek:

bslee
23-08-2010, 01:51 PM
I now recall I actually bought a couple for old time sake a few years ago for some purpose. I reckon its locally printed and although similar in size and slightly updated cover graphics with the unmistakable 555 logo print, its nevertheless still a 555 notebook in this 21st century.
Can anyone still remember how far back its existence here? 1940's 50's??? anyone?
BTW, I'm sure its easily gotten from some traditionally run stationery shop.
To me the definition of traditionally run shop may likely be family run for decades, offer some sporting goods, printing services, stamp chop fabrication..those sorts.. INCLUDING stringing badminton rackets. Yes. I know of one in PJ which I used to frequent and they're still much the same...very similar of what Sentinel described.

USJ27Resident
23-08-2010, 01:59 PM
555 was actually pronounced Tiga Lima... :D

Waliao... thanks for the trip down memory lane - Buku Tiga Lima - thats one name I have not heard for a LONG time... :) Those were the days of micro credit on a local scale... from the Roti Man to the Grocery Man to God only knows who else.... best thing was - our parents (and some of us) paid the amount owed with no questions asked...

hehehe... saw it in the Star newspapers today!!! :D

bslee
23-08-2010, 02:09 PM
I'm quite sure, its majority purpose was for debt record. Who knows...illegal bookies also used these.
AFAIR, The early books were constructed of plain colored cardboard cover color with the 555 logo and 3 lines at the bottom. Inside pages were royal blue ink scribed lined paper, probably processed by the same machine that line scribed exercise books in those days. Covers were commonly Yellow, Pink, Blue. I stand corrected..all from faint memory.
That one in thestar pic is current type that one may find now.

Justme123
23-08-2010, 02:34 PM
What - here?...In USJ!!? :eek:
Yes, USJ.
Stop the breadman sellling on your road tonight and check with him,
it is likely he may be using the 555 book as well.

Justme123
23-08-2010, 02:51 PM
Wonder if this practice is only specifc in Malaysia?
i.e. something like the '555 notebook' but in another name or format.

Sentinel
23-08-2010, 05:49 PM
Waliao... thanks for the trip down memory lane - Buku Tiga Lima - thats one name I have not heard for a LONG time... :) Those were the days of micro credit on a local scale... from the Roti Man to the Grocery Man to God only knows who else.... best thing was - our parents (and some of us) paid the amount owed with no questions asked...

hehehe... saw it in the Star newspapers today!!! :D
Ahem.... still supporting The Star eh? No wonder lah their share prices still up and up... :mad:

Doodles
23-08-2010, 05:53 PM
Ahem.... still supporting The Star eh? No wonder lah their share prices still up and up... :mad: I don't. Have not been buying since the "Tsunami".

bslee
23-08-2010, 06:01 PM
There article is here (http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/8/23/business/6878162&sec=business) lah.. can read for free.
I too given up buying since long ago, not any biased and controlled media. I just loath contributing my hard earned money to them. Not any more and never will in this lifetime. Bet on it!

USJ27Resident
23-08-2010, 09:12 PM
Ahem.... still supporting The Star eh?...

need to hold something to read while relaxing on the "throne"... a book will not do, neither would a notebook (laptop!)...

an iPad would work... but then again.... wouldn't wanna be flicking at the touchscreen before/after cleaning my butt... LoL!!! :eek: :p :D

Sentinel
24-08-2010, 01:36 AM
need to hold something to read while relaxing on the "throne"... a book will not do, neither would a notebook (laptop!)...

an iPad would work... but then again.... wouldn't wanna be flicking at the touchscreen before/after cleaning my butt... LoL!!! :eek: :p :DNo need to be so long winded lah.... so you do buy The Star lah... :mad:

fRaNkY
24-08-2010, 08:24 AM
People used to use the newspaper wiping the butt :D Be green recycle... :D

currymee
24-08-2010, 08:26 AM
People used to use the newspaper wiping the butt :D Be green recycle... :D

And smear your butt with Wong Chun Wai's "words of wisdom" editorial .... better not, your butt will STINK DOUBLE !!!! :p :p :D :D

yvonnefoong
24-08-2010, 01:53 PM
My wife also keeps a 555 book on her grocery expenses including going to the wet market. End of the month she kira with me lah...

And if I grumble why the bill for the month is so big, she will also show me items that I always ask her to buy for me like.... Heineken, Cod Fish, Big-Headed Prawns, Crabs, Pomfret Fish.... so cannot argue lor...

She is smart!!

Sentinel
24-08-2010, 03:18 PM
She is smart!!
Hey Yvonne, are you back already? Heyyyy... welcome back girl and have a good rest and recovery so we can see you again next Teh Tarek!