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jeffooi
21-12-2002, 06:07 PM
<font size="+1">Are there Penangites in Subang Jaya?</font>
Apart from food, there's PORR which may affect you during your balik kampung trips. Hope you get the right picture.


THE MALAY MAIL
Saturday, December 21, 2002

'Political ploy' claim ridiculous. says MP
V. Vasudevan

ALLEGATIONS have flown fast and furious about the Penang Outer Ring Road (Porr).

A big favourite has been that the project was a political ploy by the Gerakan Rakyat Malaysia to do in its political rival, the MCA.

The accusation levelled by residents sympathetic to the MCA is based on the fact that Porr’s re-alignment cuts across three MCA constituencies, but only one under Gerakan.

<img src="http://www.parlimen.gov.my/images/70.jpg" align="left">“That is ridiculous,” thundered Bukit Bendera MP Chia Kwang Chye (pictute left), who is also Gerakan secretary-general, and affected by the Porr.

Chia said the alignment was put in place by Japanese consultants, about 20 years ago.

“It was aligned based on the terrain. It was done by an independent consultant and they could not have decided which consitutency to run the road through.”

Chia said the allegations that the outcry was a product of some component party members not getting a piece of the Porr action, was equally preposterous.

“The very people making the allegations are the ones who will also complain that the Barisan State Government did nothing to improve the traffic situation in the State. They are not going to be kind to you.”

Chia said the people who claimed that Porr had an eight-year lifespan were clearly missing the point.

“Eight years down the road, if the situation becomes worse, the complaint will be the same, that the State Government did nothing. The finger will be pointed at the State Government,” he said.

Chia said the ring road was based on planning.

“This is based on projection and growth. You have to plan to cater to your demand for water or for that matter, power. The ring road is a product of this. You have to manage the present and plan for the future.”

Chia said the State Government had been explaining to the people as to why there was a need for the ring road.

“We have tried to explain the project to those affected, that the State is offering a fair compensation so that those affected will not feel exploited.”

Chia conceded the money may compensate for the loss of property but not the emotional attachment to the property.

“Some are family homes and we emphatise with them,” he said.

A planner familiar with the project said the anti-Porr group was looking purely at one aspect of the project and not the whole scheme.

The approach taken by the State Government, he said, was integrated.

“They are looking at the overall picture which is traffic management, the transport system and infrastructure network. The anti-Porr group is looking at it from the aspect of transport system only.”

The planner said the monorail and bus system could be put in place but the congestion problem was not going to be solved.

“Assuming you went with an improved bus system, you still need the infrastructure to disperse the traffic. A rail-based system is also going to raise the same heckles that the ring road has raised.

“It is going to cut through residential areas and there is no guarantee it is going to work.”

The planner asked how successful the rail-based transport system in Kuala Lumpur was.

“It has worked in some areas and not in others.”

Either way, the Porr argument will continue even after the project begins.

But one thing is for sure: The complaints will stop when motorists start driving on it and use it, and that too, for eight years only – if the anti-Porr group is to be believed.


FULL STORY:
http://www.mmail.com.my/Current_News/MM/Saturday/National/20021221092026

JEFF OOI: Chia Kwang Chye is the parliamentary secretary in the Ministry of Energy, Communications and Multimedia. He beat Lim Kit Siang in the Bukit Bendera parliament seat during the 1999 general election. Bukit Bendera, within which sits Penang CM Tan Sri Koh Tsu Khoon's Tanjung Bunga state seat, is also affected by PORR.

Chia holds a Masters degree in town planning from USM, the same university I studied for my undergrad degree.

Shamelessly ;), I also hail from Penang state with family roots still there. But Penang has changed greatly, for good and for worse.

jeffooi
21-12-2002, 06:21 PM
<font size="+1">And here are the views from the PORR detractors</font>


THE MALAY MAIL
Saturday, December 21, 2002

Road works may trigger landslides

...The group here is the anti-Penang Outer Ring Road (Porr) group, a collection of people fighting to save their houses, the environment and a way of life.

Anti-Porr committee co-ordinator Linda Lim said their objections centred around the impact the project would have on the enivornment, the cost of the project and the need for it when alternatives were available.

“Much of the road runs through the hilly area and the hills in Penang are mostly boulders held by sand. How safe is this?” she asked.

She said the work would open up a potential for landslides.

According to her, it appeared that not enough attention was being given to the dangers of landslides and rock falls which families (in Taman Jesselton, Rifle Range, Taman Kolam Air, Bukit Batu Lancang, Taman Changkat Tembaga, Taman Changkat Delima, Green Lane Heights and Menara Greenview) would face during the construction and also throughout the life of this highway.

“Having an elevated and a double-decker highway does not diminish the dangers. You only have to read the preliminary Environment Impact Assessment (EIA) report to realise the fragility of the hills and its risks,” she said.

She said the EIA reports mentioned that the hilly areas of Penang were fragile, adding that the environment impact did not stop with this aspect of the project.

“By our estimation, there are at least 10,000 houses which will be affected by the road which is going to run near their homes. With at four people to a house, it would work out to 40,000 who are going to be affected.”

She said traffic on the road would eventually increase the noise and smoke pollution which would be unfair to residents.

The group, she said, agreed that there was a traffic problem on the island but the Porr was a temporary solution.

“According to the Halcrow Penang Urban Transport Study Report in 1997, Porr is expected to only solve the island’s traffic problems for eight years. What happens after that?”

She said the State Government had argued that in future, steps would be taken to improve traffic conditions like upgrading the bus service and introducing a rail-based transport system.

“We are saying, do it now. Why wait for the future? Almost 90 per cent of the vehicles on the roads of Penang during peak hours are single-occupancy cars. This is happening because the public transport system is rotten.”

She said these measures were proposed in the Penang Urban Transport Study of 1998 by Halcrow Consultants Sdn Bhd.

“We have called for the project to be stopped. There is a need to address the overall transport planning in the State and consider all the options on the table and in that context, study the need for Porr.”

...“To be fair, they realigned the road which reduced the number of houses affected, but that did not address the other environmental concerns,” she said.

She had said the number of houses to be demolished would be 42.

A senior BN official said the anti-Porr group was a single issue-based movement looking to save their property.

“It has brought all sorts of people together because their property was affected by the project.”

He said those in Gurney Drive and high-rise buildings had jumped on the bandwagon as their view was going to be obstructed.

“What about the view that was obstructed because their flats came about? Nobody complained then, did they?”


FULL STORY:
http://www.mmail.com.my/Current_News/MM/Saturday/National/20021221091916

fonzie
22-12-2002, 01:23 PM
I read the controversy regarding the PORR issue with much interest. Allow me to share some concerns/opinions. I'm not talking about the political issues. I'll leave that to the professionals. I'm just deriving my concerns/opinions from experiences gained as a driver of "Malaysian built world class highways".......

Some salient points to note:

1. Penang is a small place. The main type of vehicles found on the roads ( in my "periodic excursions to the island during holidays" observations ) are motorcycles - and not your powerful motorcycles, just the less than 200cc types.

If the specifications of the "elevated highway" does not take this important fact into consideration, I'm afraid we are going to see/hear futile lamentations in the future once the project is completed. Let there be some thoughts given in the planning stages to proper and safe motorcycle lanes.

2. Penang is a manufacturing hub of the country. Therefore lorries of big capacities ply the roads of Penang everyday. If the specifications of the elevated highway does not take this other important point into consideration, I'm afraid we are going (again) to see/hear futile lamentations in the future once the project is completed. Pray, don't say that the highway don't pass by the industrial areas and thus has no need to take such things into consideration......watch out for the bends in the highway design!

The width of the highway, the bends and the number of lanes should **NOT** be the usual **MINIMUM** international safety standard specifications. When would we start adapting our mindsets into **believing** that we can create our own world class **setting** standards specifications that is safe?

I am an avid student of "incremental improvement" in management practices. We now have an excellent opportunity to study - the elevated highway concept - and seek better solutions on its construction so as to improve the safe use of such highways.

The nation's leaders pride on our road building skills. Now let's see/hear some positive steps being taken on the R&D aspects and measures to enhance the quality of life of living areas that these highways runs through.

The BN now has an excellent opportunity to come out good in this project. All I hope is that it approach this project with good, ethical management practices, intelligent use of existing excellent road building talents in the country and continued strong commitment towards its social obligations to the rakyat.

Hey, friends, we are doing this thingy in our next PM's own backyard! Let's give it our best efforts as befits the reputation of Pak Lah!

Someone say "Sandiwara?" .......or "Yes!..Boleh! ...or .....eh?...."PorrDah!"?.....

Have a great New Year!

Cheers!
FonZie

jeffooi
22-12-2002, 05:56 PM
Special reports in New Sunday Times, 22.12.2002:


<font size="+1"><a href="http://www.mmail.com.my/Current_News/NST/Sunday/Features/20021222101509/Article/"target="new">Taking a closer look at PORR</a></font>
"With traffic volume in Penang growing at a rate of seven per cent a year, and with the total number of vehicles doubling every seven years due to the compound effect, the PORR is definitely needed.

"Deferring it is only putting off the inevitable." As it is, the PORR concept has already been 20 years in the offing since a by-pass road was recommended in an urban transport study in the greater metropolitan areas of George Town by the Japan International Co-operation Agency (JICA) in 1981.


<font size="+1"><a href="http://www.mmail.com.my/Current_News/NST/Sunday/Features/20021222101045/Article/"target="new">NGOs lead campaign against highway project</a></font>
Several residents whose homes are to be acquired by the Government to make way for PORR have formed the Central Ad-hoc No-Porr Committee.

The committee recently sent an open letter to Penang Chief Minister Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon, listing an eight-point proposal to the State Government.

"We have submitted this letter as we are not convinced about the need to have PORR despite having been given a five-hour briefing on the project by Koh, the State Government and the concessionaire, Peninsular Metro-Works Sdn Bhd, on Oct 27," said Central Ad-hoc No-Porr Committee co-ordinator Linda Lim.

"For a start, the committee wants the PORR project halted until the Jelutong Expressway is completed and its full effect assessed."

The committee also proposed that the State Government draft a comprehensive transport policy with public input, and sets up a State Transport Commission to plan and implement viable transport solutions.

"We also want the authorities to implement traffic mitigation measures proposed by the Penang Urban Transport Study of 1998 commissioned by the State Government, and implement an integrated bus system with a single company undertaking the service," she said.

"The State should also expedite all efforts to put in place a rail-based public transport system." Lim added that in the mean time, a thorough assessment of the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) on PORR be conducted in a participatory and transparent manner with public consultation and feedback.