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LMei
03-06-2010, 09:35 PM
Read this article on fb.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=121923751176825&id=714313533

Please pardon me for the subject. But does anyone know if the incident did happen? It's not on the news yet.

fRaNkY
03-06-2010, 09:38 PM
Read this article on fb.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=121923751176825&id=714313533

Please pardon me for the subject. But does anyone know if the incident did happen? It's not on the news yet.

No surprises... Malaysia full of these kinda people....

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/38606-witness-watches-helplessly-woman-burns-death-accident

LMei
03-06-2010, 09:48 PM
OMG That poor girl. Her family members should sue the parking attendants / BHP owner for loss of life.

StonTemplePilot
03-06-2010, 10:11 PM
Shouldnt it be the other driver to blame if it is their fault causing the accident?

decypher
03-06-2010, 11:09 PM
http://komuniti.malaysiakini.com/news/woman-dies-in-fire-as-bhp-staff-refuse-to-loan-fire-extinguisher/

It's real. It's just a fire extinguisher, right? How much can one cost? This one cost (caused) the lady's life.

birdy
04-06-2010, 06:59 AM
油站职员拒借灭火器救人, 女司机困在车内活活烧死.

When a Perodua Myvi involved in tragic accident caught fire yesterday morning (3/6/2010) on Jalan Cheras, bystander Teo Chai Yong rushed to a nearby BHP petrol station for help.

His request for a fire extinguisher was refused by the two BHP staff on duty and his pleas fell on deaf ears. The Myvi's female driver died as the car burned.

According to a representative from the fire department, the accident claimed one life in total with two others in critical condition while another person, the lorry driver, was stable.

http://media1.malaysiakini.com.ezproxy.sunway.edu.my/265/b0a17ee933e1802bc59e62d3484ff8c9.jpg

birdy
04-06-2010, 07:04 AM
BHP government relations manager Abdul Kaiyum cited that the two of them previously had been attacked and beaten up by assailants while on duty at the station in the defense when questioned by reporters.
:mad: :mad: What kind of excuse is this ???? :mad: :mad: Apparently, Mr. Teo has given his IC to the staff, telling them that if he didn't return the fire extinguisher, they can lodge a police report. Can't the petrol attendant weight the importance of the situation? Damn stupid staff. I think BHP should be sued in this situation. :mad: :mad:

zinglicious
04-06-2010, 07:13 AM
If the parking attendant is a foreigner, he might not able to comprehend the importance of saving life or the value of IC given as a security. If I were the guy, I would just snatch the fire extingusiher and let them called the cops. :mad: :( :mad:

Naka
04-06-2010, 07:15 AM
This is a disgrace..... :mad:

zinglicious
04-06-2010, 07:34 AM
The link - http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/6/4/nation/6402033&sec=nation

birdy
04-06-2010, 08:00 AM
If the parking attendant is a foreigner, he might not able to comprehend the importance of saving life or the value of IC given as a security. If I were the guy, I would just snatch the fire extingusiher and let them called the cops. :mad: :( :mad:
Unfortunately, the petrol kiosk attendant are not foreigner! They are Malaysian! :mad: Mr Teo (the bystander) has posted note in the facebook. He has personally claimed that the petrol attendants are not foreigner!

pucman
04-06-2010, 09:04 AM
:mad: :mad: What kind of excuse is this ???? :mad: :mad: Apparently, Mr. Teo has given his IC to the staff, telling them that if he didn't return the fire extinguisher,

Those staff are usually uneducated workers from Bangla or India or local, how can you expect them to act other than what is instructed from the boss ?

They can't even understand simple instruction such as 'clean the windscreen' when I told them to help.

Blame the boss of the petrol station for hiring these uneducated workers.

Last time, I had my credit card swiped twice by these people, such a simple job and they can't do properly.

gtl
04-06-2010, 09:19 AM
folks nowadays are quite indifferent towards incidents which does not involve themselves. i am not surprise........that's the society nowadays.

jimmyay
04-06-2010, 09:29 AM
If the parking attendant is a foreigner, he might not able to comprehend the importance of saving life or the value of IC given as a security. If I were the guy, I would just snatch the fire extingusiher and let them called the cops. :mad: :( :mad:

The extinguisher is inside the shop. Sad.
My condolences to the deceased family.

decypher
04-06-2010, 10:15 AM
Sadly, this has been discussed on another thread.

( Admin note - I have merged the 2 into this thread )

LMei
04-06-2010, 10:32 AM
Shouldnt it be the other driver to blame if it is their fault causing the accident?
Blame, yes. But accidents happen. However in this case, refusal to help and end up with the woman burned to death is .... :mad:

USJ27Resident
04-06-2010, 10:46 AM
... the attendants were probably foreigners which HAVE BEEN TOLD NEVER TO OPEN the damn doors - even if it was the end of the world..!!

... seems BP (BHP) is getting into a lot of sh!t nowadays...

StonTemplePilot
04-06-2010, 10:57 AM
... the attendants were probably foreigners which HAVE BEEN TOLD NEVER TO OPEN the damn doors - even if it was the end of the world..!!

... seems BP (BHP) is getting into a lot of sh!t nowadays...


What do u mean? They are fairly decent petrol stations...

USJ27Resident
04-06-2010, 10:58 AM
The extinguisher is inside the shop. Sad.
My condolences to the deceased family.


damn extiguisher in the shop - I'D BREAK that glass door down - later kira... I am pretty darn sure the most of us (hardcore!) ones wud do the same thing - ram the door and get the fire extinguishers first -

bslee
04-06-2010, 11:11 AM
damn extiguisher in the shop - I'D BREAK that glass door down - later kira... I am pretty darn sure the most of us (hardcore!) ones wud do the same thing - ram the door and get the fire extinguishers first -
Morally right, but can be viewd as criminal act, depends on how its being "kira" in the aftermath. The onus is on you again to prove your case later on. Issues like this can be complicated and its not very easy to be a "good samaritan" in emergency cases. This is MALAYSIA... still controversial, lots of grey area, many events untested. Long long way to civility and being developed in much mindset. As I've said, its can be risky and the law CAN work against you. Sad and possibly unfortunate land.

Hiliary
04-06-2010, 11:18 AM
Morally right, but can be viewd as criminal act, depends on how its being "kira" in the aftermath. The onus is on you again to prove your case later on. Issues like this can be complicated and its not very easy to be a "good samaritan" in emergency cases. This is MALAYSIA... still controversial, lots of grey area, many events untested and awkward. Long long way to civility and being developed in much mindset. As I've said, its can be risky and the law CAN work against you. Sad and possibly unfortunate land.

Who cares when a life is at stake? I can only hope that i would have enough common sense and basic human feelings to have smashed the door down and taken the fire extinguishers.

I am sure i would even though my uncle died in a fire. He went into a burning barn to rescue 2 women, he managed to save 1 but lost his life going back for the other. To myself and many others he is a hero.

bslee
04-06-2010, 11:26 AM
Alright, I suggest anyone with "good samaritan" values..please have a fire extinguisher, axe, parang, saw in your car..it may come in handy one day...to save some lives. Fire extinguisher isn't very expensive. At least you don't risk any further action for breaking into some premise or facility that doesn't belong to you personally. Maybe this tragedy will serve as a wake up call.
My 2 sen

Hiliary
04-06-2010, 12:00 PM
You are right, every car should have a fire extinguisher.
I actually have one in my Lotus (simply because Lotus are prone to fires) but not in any other car. I lost one Mini due to an engine fire (before I got the Lotus) so you would think I would have learnt from my own painful lesson!

zinglicious
04-06-2010, 03:29 PM
It makes me more angry to find out the attendant is not a foreigner. The BHP is suppose to have a SOP on the usage of the fire extinguisher. It is not a decorative item in the petrol station. In fact, the govt should review the licence of the operator and revoke it. :mad: :mad: :mad:

VeeJay
04-06-2010, 03:33 PM
You are right, every car should have a fire extinguisher.
I actually have one in my Lotus (simply because Lotus are prone to fires) but not in any other car. I lost one Mini due to an engine fire (before I got the Lotus) so you would think I would have learnt from my own painful lesson!

This can simply be resolved by ensuring the local distributor to supply the extinguisher as part of the car tools. This is something that worth fighting for. It saves life!

zinglicious
04-06-2010, 03:48 PM
more on this at the Malay Mail http://www.mmail.com.my/content/38686-victim-could-have-been-rescued

SingaporeEhSai!
04-06-2010, 03:57 PM
when the petrol stations gets robbed one time too many, when their fire extinguishers gets stolen when placed next to the pumps once too many.......who to blame?

Firefly
04-06-2010, 04:03 PM
talking of all that, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO USE ONE?

jimmyay
04-06-2010, 04:12 PM
talking of all that, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO USE ONE?

Yupe. Try that in high school.

PAP - Pull, Aim & Press!

SingaporeEhSai!
04-06-2010, 04:42 PM
talking of all that, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO USE ONE?

how to use depends whether is CO2, powder or foam type..
if if u want to learn more, u can take up fire fighting courses frm various places.

cml
04-06-2010, 04:51 PM
I have had the occasion to be in a friend's factory when a fire broke out. They ran out of extinguishers and the fire hydrant was not working. I drove to the next factory and walked into their office and told someone that i needed to use their extinguishers and they just loaded theirs into my car. It was about 10 or more and I told the person that I needed to cut their fence which was bordering the factory to get access to their hydrant and they told me to go ahead. I wasnt even working in my friends factory and I didnt know anyone in the next factory. I guess I must have looked pretty desperate or fierce!! I told my friend to replace the extinguishers and the torn down chain link fence and send them a thank you note. I would have in this instance just taken the extinguishers or throw my credit card at them.

tupai
04-06-2010, 04:58 PM
Join the next Rakan Bomba campaign at Subang parade. All free for those who cannot afford to pay.

1should always keep a useable fire extinguisher in the car/s. A small but effective fire extinguisher should cost not more than Rm100. It should also be serviced/checked every 2 yrs or so.

The way to put out engine fire is NOT to open the bonnet. U r to push the snout into the grill opening and zap away kaw kaw. The chemical/foam should coat the whole engine snuff the sparks/fire out. InsyaAllah.

The way to put out a fire inside the car, is to aim the nozzle/snout at the inside of car and cautiously move forward towards the car...i repeat move forward. Not backward or stay put at a safe but ineffective fire-fighting distance. That should put out the fire. InsyaAllah.

What if everything else failed? Then run very fast (away from the burning car lah) when outta foam/chemical...if possible yell at all the blur-sotong kay-pohs to dial 999 also lah. :rolleyes:

Yang Bomba punya rakan latotupai :)

avusblue
04-06-2010, 05:07 PM
BP & BHP are somewhat different animals.

BP = British Petroleum
BHP = Boustead Petroleum Marketing Sdn Bhd (BHPetrol) owned by Bousted Holdings.

From what I understand, BHP acquired 70% stake in BP Malaysia from BP and rebranded to BHP.

By the way, facebook group launched to boycott BHP. Somehow, a lot of users who passed on the info found that their posts were being tagged as inappropriate or getting banned or posts started disappearing.

fRaNkY
04-06-2010, 09:21 PM
Sometime ago, I bought a set of fire extinguisher + fire blanket + fire alarm (beep!) from that shop behind Metro Bus terminal... not sure if they are still there but there is one in fed hwy before turning to Nayang Siang Pow.

There is another SRI the road behind Court 9 & 10 or road behind USJ Carre4.

Get those which can be refill.

Every house should have it... not every car should have it...

lady-o-leisure
05-06-2010, 12:57 AM
All lorries should be made to carry fire extinguishers. They hv enough room for it anyway.

That reminds me.. supposed to look for an extinguisher for the car/cars. Been telling my son he should hv a small unit in his car too.
I hv 2 units at home, (one in garage and one near the kitchen) considering my history with home fires. :o

It's a shame how a life was lost due to paranoia amongst people these days.

There is a video i watched not too long ago, showing how one guy tried to put out a motorcycle fire but wasnt successful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1UYkrxFls4

Maybe someone can explain how to effectively put out a fire like that, not that tupai's explanation isnt good, but just to get more info on different scenarios.

AllUrban
05-06-2010, 09:40 AM
If the parking attendant is a foreigner, he might not able to comprehend the importance of saving life or the value of IC given as a security. If I were the guy, I would just snatch the fire extingusiher and let them called the cops. :mad: :( :mad:WTH are you saying? Do you really believe that a "foreigner might not be able to comprehend the importance of saving life"?

Seems to me that local guy thought that he needed to ask for permission in order to save a life - pretty sad actually .... Malaysians like to break the wrong rules at the wrong time but they do not how and when to break the right rules at the right time.

I would have run out with the extinguisher instead of waiting for permission - shouting fire/api/tolong - that is, of course, assuming that I could find the fire extinguisher (or that it was actually available in the place where it was supposed to be).

Cheers, m

USJ27Resident
05-06-2010, 11:40 AM
WTH are you saying? Do you really believe that a "foreigner might not be able to comprehend the importance of saving life"?

I think he was possibly referring to the fact that some of foreign workers here are not able to converse in English or BM to a point it is just a nod or a shake of the head.... :o

Went to 7-11 and had the same experience as well... same thing in some restaurants and even our neighborhood petrol station. *sigh!*

Mebbe that was what happened when this Good Samaritan ran to BHP and started getting frantic - those fellas must've freaked and refused to open the doors... tragic case of misunderstanding and lack of communication skills that lead to the loss of a life... :(

pucman
05-06-2010, 10:32 PM
I think he was possibly referring to the fact that some of foreign workers here are not able to converse in English or BM to a point it is just a nod or a shake of the head.... :o



Totally agree. I had tons of experience with these foreigners or locals who has limited vocabulary.

They only know the terms that are used regularly in their work eg. pump number, how much money etc.

Other than that, 'fire extinguisher', 'accident' or 'api' is greek to them.

Similarly in restaurants, you just point finger at the menu and if you want any special request/order, they look blankly at you as if you're talking GREEK.

pucman
05-06-2010, 11:01 PM
http://www.mmail.com.my/content/38686-victim-could-have-been-rescued

Why is it that nobody acknowledge the heroic act of Teo Chai Yong. He should be given a medal !!!

It is rare to find Malaysians like him nowadays.

During an accident, most Malaysians will usually watch by the side and write down the number plate of the car for 'get-rich quick' 4D purposes. :rolleyes: Hardly anyone would want to take the trouble to help the victims.

AllUrban
05-06-2010, 11:03 PM
I think he was possibly referring to the fact that some of foreign workers here are not able to converse in English or BM to a point it is just a nod or a shake of the head.... :o
yeah...maybe that's what he meant to say..... :rolleyes:

Cheers, m

USJ27Resident
05-06-2010, 11:22 PM
Why is it that nobody acknowledge the heroic act of Teo Chai Yong. He should be given a medal !!!

It is rare to find Malaysians like him nowadays... .


I just hope that he is OK on the inside.. In incidences like this, a person can go thru a situation and develop what is known as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder or PTSD.

Ignoring this fact, can be very dangerous...

zinglicious
06-06-2010, 06:26 AM
yeah...maybe that's what he meant to say..... :rolleyes:

Cheers, m

Yeah, I am mean and I meant what I said which is what has been said by USJ27 and Pucman. ;)
In fact, what i meant to said further it is the bosses who try to hire foreigners, yet wont care to educate them to deal with issues, problems or customers. Just make sure that they nodded and smile at whatever you say. :eek:
When I was a foreigner hired to work in USA, the bosses made sure than I am better than the locals there , otherwise why hire me? :cool:
So much as good if not better, until I was asked to give odds to American Football bettings to my American Italian bosses though I only learnt about it after a year and nto a bettor! I dont just say Whassaup but also wassadown:D
But seriously if I sound racists, you should read waht I folowed up in the latter posting when I was told it was a local attendant there. Actually, I knew about it, but just let the ball rolled on before I can hemtam the real culprit - the bosses - either of the petrol pump or BHP. The apology was followed up it was unforseen circumsatnces because of so many robberies and blah, blah blah. :p

bslee
06-06-2010, 09:37 AM
Zing: Again, what happens or how things are done in USA is DIFFERENT FROM whats done HERE. Here its to scrape through the minimal, bank on luck and hope for the best. Malaysia only know how to learn from tragedy and martyrdom...prevention is not exactly in most minds.

pucman
06-06-2010, 09:55 AM
When I was a foreigner hired to work in USA, the bosses made sure than I am better than the locals there , otherwise why hire me? :cool:


You can't compare america which is the world's number one country with the rest of the world. They are the best in most things.

The employers in this country are more interested in making profits. They employ a lot of unskilled, uneducated people from Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh. They have limited knowledge and severely limited linguistic ability.

The funny thing is most countries expect the employees to learn the language of the customers but it is the reverse in Malaysia. The customers must try to understand the employees' language. :eek: They don't even know basic English.

An exception are those myanmar who work in chinese coffeeshop, at least they make an effort to speak some cantonese when receiving orders. :D

QuietStorm
06-06-2010, 10:16 AM
An exception are those myanmar who work in chinese coffeeshop, at least they make an effort to speak some cantonese when receiving orders. :DYes and I must add some speak commendably well. :D

tupai
06-06-2010, 11:21 AM
so i blurblur conclude that the myanmarese is a better quality unskilled worker?
It is the Bolehlander Boss who is at fault! Not the imported unskilled workers! regardless of their nationality lah. The buck stops at the very Top!

Then the same buck goes up further to the bolehlandGomen for issuing lesen to >200labor import companies (politically link sumore) which make money both ways, but with little regards to minimum standards, basic humananity and a hawk eye on maximum exploitation.

Wanna know more? Buy me 8course dinner@Zing, I shalt tell u more:p

Yang Bo-speekin foreign tongues latotupai :(

BTW, any1 with myamarese as bolehlandomestic maid? :p

zinglicious
06-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Korek, korek, korek. The buck goes up to the very top. But nobody is to be blamed because when accidents happened - It is alsways considered as an act of God as alledged from our Bolehland leader.
Whatever happened nobody takes up the responsiblity even the BHP -they did not have the decency to extend the apology to the family of the deceased. Go figure. :confused:

Fabe18
06-06-2010, 04:15 PM
The accident was at 3:30AM in the morning, means graveyard shift... If u are working at that hour and some guy come banging the door, u'll be very very cautious too.. They also don't see the fire cos it's out of sight even though it's just few hundred meters away. And if the station has been robbed before, they'll be even more cautious. So actually to place all the blame on the attendants would not be fair. But of cos, it depends on the attendant's decision making during the situation. Then again, if he's that intelligent, he wouldn't be a pump attendant... ;) Or in this case, the supervisor.

And u ask why the fire extinguishers are inside instead of at the pump.. Actually during day time, the fire extinguishers would be placed at their designated spots. Then at night, they would be moved inside the convenient store, mostly just right behind the glass door. So that they can still grab it and put out the fire at the pump. Well, how often does pump fire happened at night vs the possibility of the extinguishers being taken away if left outside??
And let's say it is left outside and got stolen, and then 1 hour later a fire broke out and there wouldn't be anymore extinguisher to be used... And the station would risk having its license revoked due to that.
So do u still think it's wise to leave the extinguisher out at the pump at night or keep them inside???

chin_wan
06-06-2010, 09:03 PM
Please join this facebook group boycotting BHP

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/BoycottinHumanePetrol?ref=ts

pucman
07-06-2010, 01:30 AM
BTW, any1 with myamarese as bolehlandomestic maid? :p

OFF topic:

Is there any good reasons why myanmar or vietnamese can't be imported as maids ?

I believe Thai maids are not feasible because their salary in Thailand is the same or better than Malaysia.

There have been very good comments on the attitude of myanmar workers. The other day, I went to this restaurant and they were busy mopping the floor at 3 pm. Whereas I frequently see other workers like Bangla and Indon who tend to laze around and chit-chat at this time.

Sentinel
07-06-2010, 03:33 AM
What makes you so certain sure they were lazing around? Not every restaurant mopping time is at 3pm. Are you making another sweeping assumptiion again?

birdy
07-06-2010, 09:10 AM
Please join this facebook group boycotting BHP

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/BoycottinHumanePetrol?ref=ts
I think we shouldn't boycott BHP just b'coz of this incident. It is not BHP fault. It is the two silly attendant selfish attitude that caused this incident. Anyway, I hardly pump BHP petrol also - they are not widely available in Klang Valley.

jimmyay
07-06-2010, 09:24 AM
I think we shouldn't boycott BHP just b'coz of this incident. It is not BHP fault. It is the two silly attendant selfish attitude that caused this incident. Anyway, I hardly pump BHP petrol also - they are not widely available in Klang Valley.

That 2 silly attendant should go back and learn Pendidikan Moral. Do you think they have lost their job because of this?

As far as i know, a Vios hit the Myvi head-on and caused it to hit the lorry. What will happened if Vios driver is wrong, what sort of punishment for that?

Fabe18
07-06-2010, 09:52 AM
That 2 silly attendant should go back and learn Pendidikan Moral. Do you think they have lost their job because of this?

As far as i know, a Vios hit the Myvi head-on and caused it to hit the lorry. What will happened if Vios driver is wrong, what sort of punishment for that?

Wasn't it reported that the vios driver was drunk?

jimmyay
07-06-2010, 09:57 AM
Wasn't it reported that the vios driver was drunk?


Thanks for the info. Would he get jail or saman?

kewo
07-06-2010, 11:04 AM
Join the next Rakan Bomba campaign at Subang parade. All free for those who cannot afford to pay.

1should always keep a useable fire extinguisher in the car/s. A small but effective fire extinguisher should cost not more than Rm100. It should also be serviced/checked every 2 yrs or so.

The way to put out engine fire is NOT to open the bonnet. U r to push the snout into the grill opening and zap away kaw kaw. The chemical/foam should coat the whole engine snuff the sparks/fire out. InsyaAllah.

The way to put out a fire inside the car, is to aim the nozzle/snout at the inside of car and cautiously move forward towards the car...i repeat move forward. Not backward or stay put at a safe but ineffective fire-fighting distance. That should put out the fire. InsyaAllah.

What if everything else failed? Then run very fast (away from the burning car lah) when outta foam/chemical...if possible yell at all the blur-sotong kay-pohs to dial 999 also lah. :rolleyes:

Yang Bomba punya rakan latotupai :)

Thanks Tupai. It is very important for everyone to know how to use a fire extinguisher. For example, like you said, do NOT open the car bonnet in the case of an engine fire, it introduces more oxygen to the fire which would make the fire even worse.

If you need any advice regarding what to do during a fire, what equipment you should need at home/in the car, or anything like that, please PM me. I work in this industry and I can give these important advice FOC
:D

Fabe18
07-06-2010, 11:07 AM
Was told that both the driver and passenger were in ICU.. Not sure about now though..
Anyone read the news lately?

tupai
07-06-2010, 11:38 AM
Thanks Tupai. It is very important for everyone to know how to use a fire extinguisher. For example, like you said, do NOT open the car bonnet in the case of an engine fire, it introduces more oxygen to the fire which would make the fire even worse.

If you need any advice regarding what to do during a fire, what equipment you should need at home/in the car, or anything like that, please PM me. I work in this industry and I can give these important advice FOC
:D

kewo, u mean to say i was right? WOW! i tikamtikam only leh, seldom i git it right lah...heheheh.
Now, if u r an expert in this area, i know that we all subangjaya Blur Sotong will appreciate a public advisory posting on firefighting in/outdoor.

Go ahead! make my day, post a community service/advice freely lah. And just dont advertise your company too glaringly obtrusive, lest mr Chang banana u kawkaw.

*hint*hint* U can only Pm your company contact lah...*nudge*nudge*

Yang Bomba Kawan ada latotupai :p

birdy
07-06-2010, 11:56 AM
That 2 silly attendant should go back and learn Pendidikan Moral. Do you think they have lost their job because of this?

As far as i know, a Vios hit the Myvi head-on and caused it to hit the lorry. What will happened if Vios driver is wrong, what sort of punishment for that?
I don't think it is rightful for the boss to sack them b'coz of this incident. There is no wrong for not helping out although it can mean inhumanity in this instances.

As far as Vios driver is concern, I think he will get hefty fines only. Coz when he knocked into the MyVi, the driver and passenger are still alive. It was the fire who caused the death. So, Vios driver probably would get his license suspended and fines. Anyway... do we need a license to drive? :p

bslee
07-06-2010, 12:12 PM
It isn't FUNNY how events in this land takes its course.
Now there's a poll in NSTP on the matter of whether fire extinguishers are to be made compulsory in cars... AMAZING!..

THATS WHY I SAY THIS COUNTRY DEPENDS ON TRAGEDY AND MARTYRDOM to learn painful lessons! SAMBIL LEWA SEMUA!

pucman
07-06-2010, 02:14 PM
What makes you so certain sure they were lazing around? Not every restaurant mopping time is at 3pm. Are you making another sweeping assumptiion again?

I am just giving ONE example, do you give 1 million examples of everything you view in forums ?

I have seen enough of who is lazy or troublemakers and who is hardworking over many years in many places.


I am not going to give 1 million examples if you don't even do that.

pucman
07-06-2010, 02:17 PM
I think we shouldn't boycott BHP just b'coz of this incident. It is not BHP fault. It is the two silly attendant selfish attitude that caused this incident. Anyway, I hardly pump BHP petrol also - they are not widely available in Klang Valley.


I agree we should not boycott BP.

These type of attendants exists in most petrol stations in Msia. They are uneducated people either local or foreigners who can't handle special situations.

It can happen in BP, shell, petronas etc.

I have seen my fair share of petronas or shell staff who can't understand simple instruction. :rolleyes:

Unluckily, in this case, the nearest station was BP and not petronas or shell.

kewo
07-06-2010, 02:28 PM
kewo, u mean to say i was right? WOW! i tikamtikam only leh, seldom i git it right lah...heheheh.
Now, if u r an expert in this area, i know that we all subangjaya Blur Sotong will appreciate a public advisory posting on firefighting in/outdoor.

Go ahead! make my day, post a community service/advice freely lah. And just dont advertise your company too glaringly obtrusive, lest mr Chang banana u kawkaw.

*hint*hint* U can only Pm your company contact lah...*nudge*nudge*

Yang Bomba Kawan ada latotupai :p

Theres a lot of things about fires which people should know of. My post would be too long if I posted it here. PM me and I can teach you step-by-step what to do in case of a fire.

tupai
07-06-2010, 02:51 PM
I agree we should not boycott BP.

These type of attendants exists in most petrol stations in Msia. They are uneducated people either local or foreigners who can't handle special situations.

It can happen in BP, shell, petronas etc.

I have seen my fair share of petronas or shell staff who can't understand simple instruction. :rolleyes:

Unluckily, in this case, the nearest station was BP and not petronas or shell.
pucman, again i hv to disagree strongly with you. Your sweeping statement is totally bias and even smack of condescension.

Let it be known that i hv befriended 2 bangladeshi forecourt attendants in ss17 ~ 1is a teacher and the other an electrical technician, both are graduates who cannot find decent job with decent pay back home.

The Rm650+overtime, with 1day off a month, pay-yr-own-medical, cramped 6workers in lowcost flat, 1pot of chicken curry once a month are luxuries they can ill-afford or even have access to back home...AND i have equally a million stories like this one.

Give these hard working foreign workers a break!

Yang Benggang with condescensioner latotupai :mad:

pucman
07-06-2010, 06:37 PM
Let it be known that i hv befriended 2 bangladeshi forecourt attendants in ss17 ~ 1is a teacher and the other an electrical technician, both are graduates who cannot find decent job with decent pay back home.


Yang Benggang with condescensioner latotupai :mad:

Did I argue that they are poor ? We all know most foreign workers are poor.

Your arguments are flawed !

1. A degree from uni A is not the same as uni B. Are you saying that a degree from UM is the same as cambridge or harvard ? An English subject here is the same standard as the one in US/UK ?

2. You are blinded because you have bangladeshi friends.


I am arguing that as a whole ie. average, workers from myanmar have better working attitude than workers from Indonesia, Bangladesh and even locals.

Communication is a big problem with all of them. They don't seem to understand special situations outside their everyday routine.

I don't want to step on further sensitivities but most people who have dealt with them will know. Take one example, how many bangladesh, indon will try to learn the language of the majority of the customers ?

tupai
08-06-2010, 02:11 AM
:D :D :D :D

Yang Bangladeshi kawan latotupai :D

p/s Mighty Nibokanizer says: "Waste not thy saliva 2debate with a frog under the cracked coconut shell, lest the Blur frog becoming wiser than thee" :p

zinglicious
08-06-2010, 09:33 AM
I agree we should not boycott BP.

These type of attendants exists in most petrol stations in Msia. They are uneducated people either local or foreigners who can't handle special situations.

It can happen in BP, shell, petronas etc.

I have seen my fair share of petronas or shell staff who can't understand simple instruction. :rolleyes:

Unluckily, in this case, the nearest station was BP and not petronas or shell.

Quoted from what was reported - One of the petrol kiosk attendants said its counter hours were only until midnight. The supervisor of the petrol station was reported to have said that, according to company procedure, the fire extinguishers were only for station use.

jan tomaswaki
08-06-2010, 09:38 AM
[QUOTE=pucman)

I am arguing that as a whole ie. average, workers from myanmar have better working attitude than workers from Indonesia, Bangladesh and even locals.
Communication is a big problem with all of them. They don't seem to understand special situations outside their everyday routine.
I don't want to step on further sensitivities but most people who have dealt with them will know. Take one example, how many bangladesh, indon will try to learn the language of the majority of the customers ?[/QUOTE]

I disagree with you totally,I have these 3 races working for me.Myannmar ppl mostly came under UNHCR where they work in services indeustry mainly coffeeshops,dobi,cleaners,Bangladesh also in this industry add on to hotels,construction and petrol pumps and Indon as already been here for 2 generations mostly work in contruction,nasi lemak,selling vege etc..Mind you they speak better malay than most tai tais