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currymee
14-05-2010, 10:24 PM
Are there any actions - legal and constitutional that the constituents (i.e. voters) can take to REMOVE a non-performing sitting MP without waiting for the next General Election, for him to resign or drop dead? :confused:

I am no legal or constutional expert, but surely there must be a way for this to happen - maybe can sue for BREACH OF TRUST and if win the case, then MP has to resign ? Anybody has any idea? - we SJ/USJ residents could be the first to remove an MP for being a POTATO !!!! :D

Mat Bruce
14-05-2010, 11:02 PM
Are there any actions - legal and constitutional that the constituents (i.e. voters) can take to REMOVE a non-performing sitting MP without waiting for the next General Election, for him to resign or drop dead? :confused:

I am no legal or constutional expert, but surely there must be a way for this to happen - maybe can sue for BREACH OF TRUST and if win the case, then MP has to resign ? Anybody has any idea? - we SJ/USJ residents could be the first to remove an MP for being a POTATO !!!! :D

lol, Kelana Jaya's potato?

USJ27Resident
15-05-2010, 02:43 AM
Are there any actions -

I am no legal or constutional expert, but surely there must be a way for this to happen...

One tactic which is quite effective... is called, ENTRAPMENT !!

Proved effective against 2 (perhaps 3?) assemblymen (some say frogmen :rolleyes: ) and scared the sh!ts out of them to jump ship real kwik....

zinglicious
15-05-2010, 04:39 AM
I dont think we can do anything about it. The only thingy is to hope that he miss the Shanghai beach and decided to have a singing career there. In fact, there is one song which we can dedicate to him - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV6nJxg7mM0

AllUrban
15-05-2010, 08:00 PM
all I can say is, be careful what you ask for (either way...now that I read Zinglicious' post)....

Remove one MP and replace him with who?

In the US they do have an interesting option, a recall election. That's how Arnold got in - the California electorate voted to recall the governor (step 1) and voted Arnold in (step 2)

Cheers, m

currymee
16-05-2010, 07:59 AM
Well, we can replace him with ZAID IBRAHIM ... or even better, someone from DAP or PAS .... if PKR is too screw-up to field a decent working MP.

Seriously, I am surprised that there is NO WAY we can "recall" a non-performing MP - like that the COnstitution needs to be changed !!! :eek: - it is as good as once elected, the MP can go "makan angin" for 5 years and enjoy him/herself and to hell with all of us .... until next election - then something is wrong somewhere ....

mykern
16-05-2010, 01:23 PM
Kelana Jaya is already developed!~ ... Apa lagi lu mau? Relek la ....

bslee
16-05-2010, 01:33 PM
Seriously, I am surprised that there is NO WAY we can "recall" a non-performing MP - like that the COnstitution needs to be changed !!! :eek: - it is as good as once elected, the MP can go "makan angin" for 5 years and enjoy him/herself and to hell with all of us .... until next election - then something is wrong somewhere ....

Whaddya mean "recall"... A SACK is more like it. Yes...keep wishing this can happen...it JUST WON'T!...not in this land. Monkeys can easily appointed for all you care. Yes..THIS happens!
Something wrong?... Its been wrong for a long long time as long as everyone can remember... who else is responsible voting that regime in for half a century until its too late.

Sentinel
16-05-2010, 08:09 PM
One tactic which is quite effective... is called, ENTRAPMENT !!

Proved effective against 2 (perhaps 3?) assemblymen (some say frogmen :rolleyes: ) and scared the sh!ts out of them to jump ship real kwik....It didn't work on the MCA President, did it?

StonTemplePilot
16-05-2010, 08:20 PM
DAP won at Sibu??!!!! Najib eat this!!!! :D

currymee
17-05-2010, 09:37 AM
Kelana Jaya is already developed!~ ... Apa lagi lu mau? Relek la ....

Borther, pray you don't ever get sick and need to go to hospital, coz the closest hospitals to you will "bankrupt" you - unless you are one of the loaded ones, where exorbitant SJMC and Sunway medical bills are sup-sup water ;) (Give an example: caesaran birth - UMCC - RM800; SJMC & Sunway RM8,000 ++ ) - SJ/USJ needs a PUBLIC HOSPITAL to start with .... that, my friend is RM200million (give or take RM10million of wang lesap) to start with .... hehehe ... when I ask, I ask A LOT and it is for the community !! :D

mykern
17-05-2010, 10:19 AM
Borther, pray you don't ever get sick and need to go to hospital, coz the closest hospitals to you will "bankrupt" you - unless you are one of the loaded ones, where exorbitant SJMC and Sunway medical bills are sup-sup water ;) (Give an example: caesaran birth - UMCC - RM800; SJMC & Sunway RM8,000 ++ ) - SJ/USJ needs a PUBLIC HOSPITAL to start with .... that, my friend is RM200million (give or take RM10million of wang lesap) to start with .... hehehe ... when I ask, I ask A LOT and it is for the community !! :D

Ok, I see where you are coming from and intend to go to ...
Ask LGB to resign and force a by (buy) election and ask the BN for make a UH size govt hospital at USJ23 ....
Ask them to sign an agreement with the Selangor govt that they will fulfill the pledge and then you and I will vote the seat for BN.
OK?
As a last gesture, ask LGB to take photos of the USJ23 site and give some suggestions of how the building should look like. Make sure the picture is clear this time. Post it in this forum as well.

currymee
18-05-2010, 11:15 AM
Hahahaa .... I am not the only person thinking of removing a sitting MP:

Bung Mokhtar case: NGO wants him to quit as MP for setting bad example

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/18/nation/20100518093641&sec=nation

Well, in our case, Mr Loh Gwo Bourne is also setting a BAD EXAMPLE for DOING NOTHING and FREELOADING ..... :D :D :D

PS: A forummer PM me and asked me what have I got against Mr Loh personally for wanting him out so badly? Actually, I got nothing personal against him. Since he is doing nothing and recent events have shown that HE CAN REALLY SERVE SJ/USJ people by quitting so we get a BUY-ELECTION (since 1NAJIB is in such a generous mood nowadyas - strike while iron is hot :D ), - by quitting, he can "bring in" around RM200-300 million for SJ/USJ for a long-overdue public hospital, reno funds for schools, buy back the Subang Ria park etc etc ...

I also don't mind lobbying for him (Mr Loh) to be IMMORTALISED in our SJ/USJ history by having the hospital or public park named after him :rolleyes: ,if he quits and we get those facilities .... Imagine - Hospital Besar LGB or LGB Subang Ria Reserve .... LGB Classroom Block .... Persiaran LGB .... semua BOLEH - JUST QUIT and get us the BUY-ELECTION .... :D

BTW, how come our previous Mr My-Hands-are-Tied MCA taikor never propose any such things lika a hospital for us ? :confused: I am really puzzled as they keep talking about PUBLIC SERVICE and DEVELOPEMENT - mana kita punya hospital besar ? SJMC and SUnway - don't count - those are money-sucking machine NOT public service ...

EricK
18-05-2010, 01:24 PM
is a public hospital really needed in SJ area? i'd say our area is middle to upper middle class area.. most people here are relatively well off and can afford private health care. I'd rather a hospital be built where it is most needed. Yes it would be nice to have a public hospital here to give a choice and so that we do not have to drive all the way down to UH :rolleyes: but is it essential ?

when you read of such cases where some estate workers are surviving on RM33 a month (http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/fmt-english/news/general/5663-fancy-a-job-that-pays-you-rm33-a-month) it seems the issue of having a public hospital in your immediate area less important..

mykern
18-05-2010, 02:10 PM
In the next election, if PR fields him again ... would you vote for the other party?
Keep pestering him until he gets off his seat ....... :cool:

jimmyay
18-05-2010, 02:21 PM
is a public hospital really needed in SJ area? i'd say our area is middle to upper middle class area.. most people here are relatively well off and can afford private health care. I'd rather a hospital be built where it is most needed. Yes it would be nice to have a public hospital here to give a choice and so that we do not have to drive all the way down to UH :rolleyes: but is it essential ?

when you read of such cases where some estate workers are surviving on RM33 a month (http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/fmt-english/news/general/5663-fancy-a-job-that-pays-you-rm33-a-month) it seems the issue of having a public hospital in your immediate area less important..

A public hospital is a basic necessity. There are a lot of people earning less than RM2,500 with children. With the cost of living in USJ, how to survive. Lot of family that suffer at those business-centre style hospital. They have to travel all the way to UM to seek treatment.

With the amount of monies govt invested in those corrupted project, they can built 3 instead of 1 hospital for the people.

jimmyay
19-05-2010, 10:57 AM
Is this how Kinabatangan removing their MP?

Bung gets a month's jail for marrying without consent
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/19/nation/20100519101450&sec=nation

What happen next? Appeal or straight to jail? Another by-election?

StonTemplePilot
19-05-2010, 11:07 AM
Is this how Kinabatangan removing their MP?

Bung gets a month's jail for marrying without consent
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/19/nation/20100519101450&sec=nation

What happen next? Appeal or straight to jail? Another by-election?

No buy election...only if jailed above 1 year or fined above RM3,000.

UMNO reps will never get that kind of punishment from the kangaroo courts

USJ27Resident
19-05-2010, 11:10 AM
Is this how Kinabatangan removing their MP?

Bung gets a month's jail for marrying without consent
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/19/nation/20100519101450&sec=nation

What happen next? Appeal or straight to jail? Another by-election?


dude - if I am not mistaken - 1 Bulan is not counted la... only thing that would happen, is that this BUNGling MP won't be able to spend time with his new wife for one month la.... :p

Art. 48 >> Kalau kena fine more than RM2,000 and/or jailed more than 1 year (+366 days?)- baru hilang YB (MP/ADUN) ofis....

Why you think the BN fellas are chuckling/grinning at this fella's predicaments
and position in bed and not worried about his position in office... :rolleyes:

That said - have you noticed that if you're from the other side of the fence - the courts would whack you with fines in excess of RM3,000 ( which automatically disqualifies you as a sitting MP/ADUN !!! ) Double Standard courts... :mad:

cskok8
19-05-2010, 11:52 AM
Someone once sent me an article about how many of our MPs have criminal records, been sued for breach of contract and other offenses, I guess this adds one more to the gallery. ;)

USJ27Resident
19-05-2010, 11:57 AM
Someone once sent me an article...... ;)

hehehee...

got one article too, that said fellas from BN are coated with TEFLON and fellas from the otherside are coated with MICROFIBER.... if you get the drift!! :p

jimijamison
19-05-2010, 02:58 PM
Hmm...it appears that our LGB is a hardcore PKR supporter, as reported recently. We don't have to worry about him jumping ship.

Is this good, since I have read so so so many negative comments about him? If he is really no good, why don't we petition the PKR leader to do something about him? Isn't this better than removing him - give him a chance to show some value?

bslee
19-05-2010, 03:13 PM
As far as he's concerned, I'll not jump to conclusions and let him and Hannah (fortunate to have Councillor Rajiv too) serve their term till next GE, only then I'll form my own opinions about them.
They're newbies in this political scenario against huge odds and decades of shyte as tall as the eye can see. Let live lah!. I don't expect nor dream fantastic performance or results achieved in the first 5 years.
No more comments from me here on this.

Joe Gomez
19-05-2010, 06:59 PM
Guys
What in your opinion could he be doing different without duplicating Hannah's work ?
Do you agree that an ADUN typically handles issues that are closer to the ground and closer as well to the hearts of the constituents ?
If YES, what then is left for an MP to take on at the ground level ?
When Parliament is in session he should ordinarily highlight broader issues. One among these issues could be such legislation / administrative structures etc that make an ADUN's task difficult to perform, for want of appropriate legislation / statutes or the like.
For want of a better example, pls allow me to take the "Gated & Guarded (G&G) communities" topic.
Hannah has been bravely fielding extremely uncomfortable questions on the topic of G&G. Most of the discomfort centers on the lack of clear and enforceable guidelines / legislation ( g/l ). If such g/l need to be tabled and passed in Parliament, that is where I see LGB's role. But for that to happen, our MP and ADUN have to work together.
Their respective office need to share notes and push one another to do his/her bit.

bslee
19-05-2010, 07:09 PM
But for that to happen, our MP and ADUN have to work together.
Their respective office need to share notes and push one another to do his/her bit.

For all you know, they could be working together to make things happen and many issues like GnG are untested grounds, run into controversy and other irritating and sticky hurdles. Its perhaps many expect them to work 24/7, producing results a.s.a.p one after another and miracle workers. All this takes time, LOTS of effort, headaches looking for breakthroughs. I won't expect a lot to happen within 5 years. Any real achievement by them is bonus. We must realise that that regime have spoilt this country so much.
I voted for them and with the understanding of letting them run their course. NO if's, no but's.

Joe Gomez
19-05-2010, 07:36 PM
For all you know, they could be working together to make things happen .............. Thks for correcting me. I shd have said that myself. :p
............... and many issues like GnG are untested grounds, run into controversy and other irritating and sticky hurdles. Its perhaps many expect them to work 24/7, producing results a.s.a.p one after another and miracle workers. All this takes time, LOTS of effort, headaches looking for breakthroughs. I won't expect a lot to happen within 5 years. Any real achievement by them is bonus. We must realise that that regime have spoilt this country so much.
I voted for them and with the understanding of letting them run their course. NO if's, no but's.I am a little concerned that LGB is not working at "THINGS SHD NOT ONLY BE DONE, BUT SHD ALSO SEEM TO BE DONE"

bslee
19-05-2010, 11:36 PM
Thks for correcting me. I shd have said that myself. :p I am a little concerned that LGB is not working at "THINGS SHD NOT ONLY BE DONE, BUT SHD ALSO SEEM TO BE DONE"

If that holds true, then every employee everywhere should be blogging (or blaring on a megaphone) about their daily achievements so their bosses can see or keep track what the heck they've been doing all the while.

But then again, I can't blame anyone for wanting to keep tab on their progress and expectations and concern are even higher than YB's or people's representatives from the other camp. Its all because WE INSIST ON CHANGE , soon and like a.s.a.p....but this isn't going to happen overnight (although I'm damn sure many people insist)

USJ27Resident
20-05-2010, 02:19 AM
it just hit me... let them complete their terms where they are - then

since Hannah is such a "hands on" person, mebbe it would be nice to see her RUN for MP (as in LGB place) in the next GE13 and let LGB take Hannah's place...

Phuhhh... imagine the FIRE-POWER in parliament - with her and Theresa Kok there.... sure best kari meletup :p

Joe Gomez
20-05-2010, 12:22 PM
If that holds true, then every employee everywhere should be blogging (or blaring on a megaphone) about their daily achievements so their bosses can see or keep track what the heck they've been doing all the while.
.....................That is quite a funny picture you painted. :D
Imagine LGB on the horn/megaphone :eek:
To be entirely honest, what is it about ( for want of a better example ) Gobind Singh Deo (GSD), that makes him stand out in his constituency ? What makes him a better MP as opposed to LGB ? What do you think he will do different from LGB if GSD were our MP.
Lets face it ............... the media loves GSD because he is a high profile fighter. Not really because he walks the streets shaking hands and solving drainage, lighting and such problems on the ground.
This is much like the media loves Hannah cos she is a problem-fixer. To Hannah's advantage is the fact that the problems she fixes are at the ground level.
Can anyone pls advise as to how LGB can work in a manner that the man on the street in Subang can see and feel him working at his role as an MP?

bslee
20-05-2010, 12:30 PM
Can anyone pls advise as to how LGB can work in a manner that the man on the street in Subang can see and feel him working at his role as an MP?

How about have him come to our TT session one of these days and just a imformal and very friendly kopitiam chat...not like a formal Q & A..perhaps with numerous hints that you or everyone else like to see his work, silent or not.. :rolleyes:

P.S. Don't lah blast him with any anger lah... we're all human but it takes superhuman effort to clear 53 years of rubbish.
(BTW, pls don't take it that I'm siding anyone here. Just my 2 sen worth :) ).

Joe Gomez
20-05-2010, 05:46 PM
How about have him come to our TT session one of these days and just a imformal and very friendly kopitiam chat.. That takes care of about 20 chaps who come for the TT session. But there is a world outside usj.com ........... so how ?

bslee
20-05-2010, 05:52 PM
That takes care of about 20 chaps who come for the TT session. But there is a world outside usj.com ........... so how ?
I reckon forumers here may want answers, if he's coming by, maybe more people would come. As for the world outside..they can go organize their own teh tarik sessions lah.. (if they read this thread and to the idea)

Joe Gomez
20-05-2010, 06:32 PM
Sorry bslee .....
I honestly thot you wanted to take this topic of "how LGB can manage how he is perceived" at a wider plane, rather than only from the viewpoint of TT sessioners.

Joe Gomez
24-05-2010, 11:30 PM
DOES NOT SEEM TO ME THAT LGB IS SLEEPING IN PARLIAMENT ....

According to Faisal Mustaffa the following are the responses from the concerned Minister to the questions raised by LGB in Parliament :
1 ) SOALAN:

Tuan Gwo-Burne Loh [Kelana Jaya] minta MENTERI PERUMAHAN DAN KERAJAAN TEMPATAN menyatakan apakah bentuk demokrasi yang kita miliki apabila kita tidak membenarkan rakyat memilih wakil di peringkat Kerajaan tempatan.

JAWAPAN:

Tuan Yang Di-Pertua,

Untuk makluman Ahli Yang Berhormat, di bawah seksyen 15 (1) Akta Kerajaan Tempatan 1976 (Akta 171), pilihan raya Kerajaan Tempatan hendaklah dihentikan. Undang-undang Kerajaan Tempatan di Sabah dan Sarawak juga tidak mempunyai peruntukan tentang pilihanraya Kerajaan Tempatan.

Akta 171 Seksyen 10 memperuntukkan bahawa sesebuah Pihak Berkuasa Tempatan (PBT) akan mengandungi Datuk Bandar atau Yang Dipertua serta tidak kurang daripada lapan (8) dan tidak lebih daripada 24 orang Ahli Majlis yang dilantik daripada kalangan mereka yang mempunyai pengalaman luas mengenai PBT yang mereka dialami atau mereka yang mempunyai pengalaman luas dalam bidang masing-masing.

Kerajaan tidak bercadang untuk mewujudkan semula pilihanraya Kerajaan Temaptan kerana tiada undang-undang yang membolehkan ianya diadakan kecuali undang-undang tersebut dipinda.

Pilihanraya Kerajaan Tempatan boleh menjejaskan tumpuan PBT selaku agensi barisan hadapan dalam memberikan perkhidmatan kepada rakyat kerana tumpuannya akan lebih menjurus kepada hal-hal yang berkaitan dengan urusan pilihanraya. Urusan pilihanraya bukan sahaja melibatkan masa dan kos malah tenaga kerja di samping kemungkinan wujudnya unsur-unsur kurang sihat oleh pihak-pihak tertentu yang berteraskan kepentingan politik masing-masing.

Pilihanraya Kerajaan Tempatan bukanlah faktor yang menentukan kecekapan sistem penyampaian perkhidmatan PBT. Kecekapan PBT adalah berdasarkan gabungan pelbagai faktor seperti kepimpinan yang dinamik, tenaga kerja yang mahir dan terlatih, proses dan prosedur kerja yang cepat dan mudah, perancangan bandar yang mapan, keseragaman undang-undang dan peraturan, pengurusan sumber hasil dan kewangan yang cekap, pelaksanaan projek pembangunan yang berkesan dan sebagainya.

2 ) SOALAN:

Tuan Gwo-Burne Loh [Kelana Jaya] minta MENTERI PERUMAHAN DAN KERAJAAN TEMPATAN menyatakan adakah beliau berhak mengarahkan kain rentang ucapan Thaipusam oleh Kerajaan Negeri Selangor diturunkan pada 29 Januari 2009.

JAWAPAN:

Tuan Yang Di-Pertua,

Untuk makluman Ahli Yang Berhormat, pemasangan kain rentang dilesenkan oleh Pihak Berkuasa Tempatan (PBT) di bawah Undang-undang Kecil Iklan (UUK). UUK ini menetapkan tatacara proses permohonan lesen iklan, syarat-syarat yang perlui dipatuhi serta tindakan yang boleh diambil oleh Pihak Berkuasa Tempatan (PBT) ke atas pihak yang melanggar syarat. PBT boleh memohon kepada Mahkamah satu perintah untuk menurunkan terus mana-mana iklan yang dipamerkan tanpa lesen atau melanggar mana-mana UUK ini. UUK ini turut menetapkan tatacara proses permohonan lesen iklan, syarat-syarat yang perlu dipatuhi serta tindakan yang boleh diambil oleh PBT ke atas pihak yang melanggar syarat.

3 ) SOALAN:

Tuan Gwo-Burne Loh [Kelana Jaya] minta MENTERI DALAM NEGERI menyatakan di mana Pegawai Polis yang bertugas berada ketika mangsa P.Babu dikatakan membunuh diri dengan menggunakan baju lokap yang dipakai oleh mangsa pada 1 Februari 2009.

JAWAPAN:

Tuan Yang Di-Pertua,

Saya mengucapkan terima kasih kepada Ahli Yang Berhormat Kelana Jaya yang mengemukakan soalan.

Untuk makluman Ahli-ahli Yang Berhormat dan dewan yang mulia ini, kes yang dimaksudkan oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat itu berlaku pada 1 Februari 2010 dan bukannya 1 Februari 2009. Hasil siasatan polis mendapati P.Babu telah ditemui mati di dalam lokap Balai Polis Bahau, Negeri Sembilan akibat menggantung diri menggunakan baju lokap yang dipakainya. Semasa kejadian, terdapat dua (2) orang anggota polis sedang bertugas di dalam lokap tersebut di mana seorang sedang berdiri di ruang sentri lokap dan seorang lagi sedang duduk melihat kamera litar tertutup (CCTV).

cskok8
25-05-2010, 12:38 AM
The "answers" are classic talking without saying anything. :confused:

Sentinel
25-05-2010, 02:03 AM
Why not engage the MP to a dialogue and tell him your problems and see how all can work together instead of just pulling the carpet from under his feet? With this thread, the feeling in Subang Jaya and USJ isn't really that good and it isn't helping anyone - both constrituents/voters and YB Loh. :mad:

We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater...

Don't get me wrong, I ain't no supporter nor foe of YB Loh but he is so young... relatively speaking... and its no fault of his the party chucked him into the last election coz nobody guessed he would be able to defeat "My Hands Are Tied" Lee Hwa Beng, seriously.

He has been an MP for like 26 months so why not work together?

AllUrban
25-05-2010, 03:04 PM
The "answers" are classic talking without saying anything. :confused:It's government - what to do?

How about the questions that LGB is asking in Parliament? Are they direct enough? Detailed enough? Can they be improved?


Why not engage the MP to a dialogue and tell him your problems and see how all can work together instead of just pulling the carpet from under his feet? With this thread, the feeling in Subang Jaya and USJ isn't really that good and it isn't helping anyone - both constrituents/voters and YB Loh. :mad:

We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater...

Don't get me wrong, I ain't no supporter nor foe of YB Loh but he is so young... relatively speaking... and its no fault of his the party chucked him into the last election coz nobody guessed he would be able to defeat "My Hands Are Tied" Lee Hwa Beng, seriously.

He has been an MP for like 26 months so why not work together? One thing he could be doing is having town hall meetings to get feedback on major issues like:

LRT, Persiaran Kewajipan & Subang-Kelana Link, subsidy withdrawal & GST, crime & social issues (like improving on relationship education to prevent abandonment of babies & child abuse & domestic abuse), and creating employment opportunities in Kelana Jaya.

Anything else that is under the federal purview?

Cheers, m

Sentinel
25-05-2010, 06:25 PM
YB Loh is an MP - he attends parliament on national issues as in national economics and policies matters affecting the rakyat.

There are many who is blaming traffic jams at Lick Hung Scool and all these local council issues on him, those are duties and responsibilities of the ADUN or State Assemblywoman YB Hannah Yeoh.

SonOfSoil
25-05-2010, 07:10 PM
YB Loh is an MP - he attends parliament on national issues as in national economics and policies matters affecting the rakyat.

There are many who is blaming traffic jams at Lick Hung Scool and all these local council issues on him, those are duties and responsibilities of the ADUN or State Assemblywoman YB Hannah Yeoh.

I personally do not think anyone is blaming our MP for MPSJ related issues. Technically, even our ADUN is not in charge of the local council issues too. It's the councillors and the Mayor. But our ADUN definitely takes a proactive stand on the local issues.

tupai
25-05-2010, 08:00 PM
i have had the fortune to meet the kelanajaya potato some 2yrs ago..he took lotsa notes and his assistant (his brudder) also took lotsa notes on their that-time-very-heng PDA. What became of the notes is probably under OSA.

Tuan ahli Yang berhormat had the misfortune to bump into me, not many moons ago, in a public-private makanmakan.

Our resulting dialogue is still classified under TOSA and can only be made public in 2020.

In a nut shell? I am not impressed. First timer mp or otherwise!
public figure Cant take public criticism? Tough poo! Well, 1can stay outta d kitchen if 1can't stand d heat!


Suffice to say that I selfishly care only for my patch on earth...and damn be the questions on the 'eye on malaysia' or the 'Periodic review'* ~ which BTW, i seriously doubt if the Yang Bahasa melayu he boleh or not faham! :mad:


Yang Biadap latotupai

p/s *'What UN driven, universal human rights in the darkest corners' is mr loh hooting about in our august hse when basic rights of many nearby orang asli are conveniently tutup 1mata? :cool: