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currymee
06-04-2010, 07:59 AM
Merit Scholarship - sure or not ?

After all the positive hype ...... back to old tricks :mad:

Penang's top girl did not get Govt Merit Scholarship ..... she is one of the top 3 in the country that got 13A+ for SPM last year ...... never mind, go and apply for ASEAN Scholarship, better and brighter future :D Singapore will welcome you with open arms :rolleyes:

http://malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31015:-news-pelajar-spm-terbaikpulau-pinang-gagal-menerima-biasiswa-nasional&catid=16:from-around-the-blogs&Itemid=100132

zinglicious
06-04-2010, 08:13 AM
Aiyah, thatis why I posted earlier on, semua wayang kulit. That post on the April 1st is just a April fool on Malaysians. :mad: :p :mad:

Is it for real or April Fools joke that finally those top students are getting the due recognition without creed, race or color?
Or it is because Malaysian have come into one to tell the govt of the day that the world has come to the age of globalisation where creed, race or colors doesnt matter anymore?
Maybe because of the blog forumers ranging from the respectable www.usj.com.my to Malaysia Kini, niamah blogspot to Malysian Insider which have relentless voicing positive critics and feedbacks to garner support of the slogan and concept 1Malaysia?
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/stor...2132&sec=nation

currymee
06-04-2010, 08:28 AM
As a Malaysian, I "loathe" to say this as it means potential brain drain BUT looking at how screw-up our Govt is in terms of appreciating and nurturing its local talents and brains - I am ACTUALLY THANKFUL FOR THE ASEAN SCHOLARHSHIPS to Singapore as an avenue for our bright young ones to have a better future when the Msian Govt don't recognise and appreciate them. If this Penang girl is given the Asean Scholarship, she will always remember the "injustice" done to her and she will always be grateful to the Singapore Govt and she will never come back .... I will also advise her not to ..... :mad:

zinglicious
06-04-2010, 08:35 AM
Now, I am not surprised why a diner was telling in front of his family last week the same old , same old, that he wouldnt mind if his children graduated and stay that way in the foreign country. :eek: :o :eek:

HTCHONG
06-04-2010, 10:05 AM
The ASEAN scholarship for 2011 is closing soon, dateline is on 15 Apr (next Thursday at 10pm). :)

http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/scholarships/asean/malaysia/

Rhiga
06-04-2010, 10:40 AM
I always believe – not getting what you want can be a blessing.

For those top achievers who were denied scholarships by the bolehland government, please please read the followings:

1.It is the country loss, not your personal loss.
2.With your talent, you can and should deserve better place to work. (You need to serve the gomen if you are awarded the scholarship)
3.Go to somewhere else that recognize your talent, bite the bullet and the world is your playground.

Last point, financial difficulty is not the reason to be given a scholarship. Most of the top schools in US and UK award scholarship based on merits, not financial needs.

currymee
06-04-2010, 10:46 AM
.....Last point, financial difficulty is not the reason to be given a scholarship. Most of the top schools in US and UK award scholarship based on merits, not financial needs.

Yes, even BILL GATES got the US National Mathematics Scholarship to Havard, (technically, he is still on Scholarship as he has not completed his degree and on LONG LONG SABBATICAL) although his parents are already multi-millionaire by then.

HTCHONG
06-04-2010, 11:03 AM
..........

3.Go to somewhere else that recognize your talent, bite the bullet and the world is your playground.

Sagamihara..well said..especially this...." the world is your playground" :) :)

gtl
06-04-2010, 11:08 AM
as the world continue to open up, we will hv to be prepared to embrace the world.

usehead
06-04-2010, 11:57 AM
Rakyats must wake up and make sure their voice is well-heard.

Government must walk his talk. And, this is the key to advancement for Malaysia.

Sentinel
06-04-2010, 01:03 PM
The family should, like what fellow forumer Sagamihara-san just wrote, take the rejection of the scholarship as a BLESSING.

Go Singapore and become their scholar and better still, get their PR and stay there. Why worry, with 13As, its better life there based on meritocrcy than fight on 'kulit'fication.

p.s. maybe make an appointment to go see Prime Minister in his house in Jalan Duta? The Sodomy II accuser did that looking for a scholarship and he doesn't even have 13As...

bslee
06-04-2010, 01:25 PM
I read around the blogs (random glance) comments suggesting like go see LGE lah, DAP and see what you get lah, this and that..but can I assume the fact remains that biasiswa and most matters pertaining to our Malaysian education system is nearly or all controlled at Federal government level, so they have the last word who gets what. I suppose opposition controlled state governments can do little but merely push for it.

Sentinel
06-04-2010, 04:56 PM
You're right BSLee, education is a federal matter. State governments has no say except the land for the schools and state government scholarships (mainly for school-level, not tertiary).

DarkNite
06-04-2010, 06:59 PM
I am ACTUALLY THANKFUL FOR THE ASEAN SCHOLARSHIPS to Singapore as an avenue for our bright young ones to have a better future when the Msian Govt don't recognise and appreciate them.No, please dun be that thankful.
FYI, ASEAN SCHOLARHSHIPS is not as GOOD as JPA scholarship. It is just 2 years of Singapore 'A' level. There is no guarantee for tertiary education FUNDS or sponsorship. Moreover the Singapore 'A' level is not widely recognized especially not in many countries and particularly Malaysian Uni, if your parents are poor and unable to fund oversea university.
Do remember not all ASEAN scholars gets to go to Singapore Uni.

Anyway, it is too late for her to apply. 2009SPM ASEAN SCHOLARS are already in their 4th month in Singapore.

Best bet for her is write or go see Prime Minister.

Sentinel
06-04-2010, 10:30 PM
Best bet for her is write or go see Prime Minister.
Yes, thats what I suggested earlier too. Afterall, the accuser in Sodomy II ie Saifool who is a uni dropout also went and saw the PM (purportedly for a scholarship) and was even entertained at his personal house in Jalan Duta. I am sure he will see a 13As achiever.... :rolleyes:

zinglicious
07-04-2010, 01:15 AM
You mean the PM is not aware of that? There goes the KPI with one notch down from PM dept to Education dept.

pucman
07-04-2010, 09:46 AM
Merit Scholarship - sure or not ?

After all the positive hype ...... back to old tricks :mad:



This news has been reported in chinese newspaper few days ago.

Wonder why Thestar didn't report the news until now ?

usehead
07-04-2010, 10:03 AM
Hope our leaders are responsive enough as far as important matter like this is concerned

Nick Chia
07-04-2010, 10:35 AM
There is a way out. Ask her to go and see Najib as what Saiful did. Afterall, he failed and needs a scholarship and now walla! very rich. No need to go for futher studies. :D

currymee
07-04-2010, 10:46 AM
This is the scenario I can see - no way the Govt can give her scholarship no. 31 as she deserves scholarship no. 3, it will mean that they have screwed up in the MERIT :p selection - so most likely, Govt will get Khazanah or Petronas to give her a scholarship instead - my point in this thread is that EITHER there is a genuine cock-up in the order of merit (?), given that she is no. 3 in the country SPM (what a cock-up :rolleyes: - I can understand if she is no.29 or 30 - so maybe there is another close contender ) or the so-called MERIT Scholarship is another pile of "bullsh*t" pretending to be "MERIT" based.

My disgust is the way the Govt is trying to hoodwink the non-Bumis with all these talks about being MERIT-based when in REALITY, even 30 scholarships also they want to play politics :mad: - SERIOUSLY, I want to see the RESULTS of the 30 Scholarship winners, I BET 10 pkts of Pemancing groundnuts, there will be a few other students whose results are far better and did not get the scholarships coz they did not know they are better than these 30 - wanna bet ? :D

This is how much FAITH I have in the transparency of the Govt selection in ANYTHING !!

HTCHONG
07-04-2010, 11:30 AM
No, please dun be that thankful.
FYI, ASEAN SCHOLARHSHIPS is not as GOOD as JPA scholarship. It is just 2 years of Singapore 'A' level. There is no guarantee for tertiary education FUNDS or sponsorship. Moreover the Singapore 'A' level is not widely recognized especially not in many countries and particularly Malaysian Uni, if your parents are poor and unable to fund oversea university.
Do remember not all ASEAN scholars gets to go to Singapore Uni......

Darknite, you are right, there is no guarantee the ASEAN scholar will get the funding when get into university if the performance is not good. Frankly, there are ASEAN scholars who cannot succeed and go back to their home countries. Contrary, there are ASEAN scholars graduated from prestige universities under Singapore Government scholarships too.

ASEAN scholarship is not a bursary, as bursary is for the needy students. There is no guarantee if one was awarded with scholarship will enjoy the funding till the end of her study even though the performance is not good. This does not fit into meritocracy system that we are promoting.

Singapore uses GCE examinations for both O & A levels. GCE an acronym for General Certificate of Education originally from England and is quite common in some of the Commonwealth countries. I know some private institutions in Malaysia provide GCE examinations, such as, Taylor’s college and British Council.

The GCE ‘O” level examinations of Singapore are mainly set by the University of Cambridge Local Examination Syndicate (UCLES), while a few ‘mother tongue” subjects such as Chinese, Malay and Tamil are set by Singapore Ministry of Education. After examination, the completed papers are sent to Cambridge for marking. The exceptions are the mother tongue papers set in Singapore which would be marked by the local teachers.

As for GCE A Level, both the Singapore Ministry of Education and the University of Cambridge International Examinations (CIE) are the joint examining authorities for the Singapore-Cambridge GCE A-Level examination.

pucman
07-04-2010, 12:39 PM
After examination, the completed papers are sent to Cambridge for marking.

I remember my MCE papers were sent to Cambridge for marking.

Are the same standards maintained for SPM ? I see so many people getting tons of A nowadays.

zinglicious
08-04-2010, 03:11 AM
Tutup satu mata aje like what the Malaysian MP told the Custom officer. :rolleyes: :p :rolleyes:

jimmyay
08-04-2010, 09:32 AM
I remember my MCE papers were sent to Cambridge for marking.

Are the same standards maintained for SPM ? I see so many people getting tons of A nowadays.

Looking at all those 'A', make me look dumb for my SPM result. 15 years back, i still got praises for my achievement. But now...sigh :confused:

usehead
08-04-2010, 01:09 PM
The old good days were gone. Those were the days when kids got tuition because they failed in a particular subject.

These days, they got tuition because they don't SCORE !!!!!!!!!!!!

wira wan
08-04-2010, 08:43 PM
Year in year out, the Star will print a story that a top scorer didn't get scholarship.

Then, come a Shining Knight in form of MCA or Gerakan to "help" the top scorer to get the scholarship.

Everybody win....... :D

zinglicious
09-04-2010, 08:06 AM
So it means the top scorer dont actually deserve it but with the Power rangers like MCA and move it - move it Gerakan deserve to be praised for that? In reality , nobody wins! :p

Rhiga
09-04-2010, 10:19 AM
No, please dun be that thankful.
FYI, ASEAN SCHOLARHSHIPS is not as GOOD as JPA scholarship. It is just 2 years of Singapore 'A' level. There is no guarantee for tertiary education FUNDS or sponsorship.
.

It is not a fair comparison.

As you correctly pointed out, JPA is a scholarship to further tertiary education whereas ASEAN scholarship is a study grant to pursue A level in Singapore.

Back to the spirit of meritocracy or the jungle rule of survival, only the better survive.

For students who survive in Singapore A level, they will then study in NUS and later pursue postgraduate in NUS or prestigious universities outside Singapore.

For students who awarded JPA scholarship, they will have to go through the grill and brainwash of Jabatan Tatatertib Negara, and if they are “unlucky”, they will go to countries like Indonesia, Russia, Turkey to pursue their tertiary education, and the unlucky lots always are…..!!!!

My point is for top achievers,they are the best students academically and the choices are wide, JPA is not the only choice.

Feynman
09-04-2010, 11:57 AM
It is not a fair comparison.

As you correctly pointed out, JPA is a scholarship to further tertiary education whereas ASEAN scholarship is a study grant to pursue A level in Singapore.

Back to the spirit of meritocracy or the jungle rule of survival, only the better survive.

For students who survive in Singapore A level, they will then study in NUS and later pursue postgraduate in NUS or prestigious universities outside Singapore.

For students who awarded JPA scholarship, they will have to go through the grill and brainwash of Jabatan Tatatertib Negara, and if they are “unlucky”, they will go to countries like Indonesia, Russia, Turkey to pursue their tertiary education, and the unlucky lots always are…..!!!!

My point is for top achievers,they are the best students academically and the choices are wide, JPA is not the only choice.
NUS Engineering course annual tuition fees are S$9,540.

http://www.eng.nus.edu.sg/ugrad/prospective/eng_faq.html

If take A-level in Singapore, then either the :
1. father-mother must be loaded.
2. result must be tip top so that can take another scholarship for the university study.

JPA scholarship may be more of a guarantee of a degree (of course, the countries or uni not known... :(

DarkNite
09-04-2010, 01:19 PM
It is not a fair comparison.

As you correctly pointed out, JPA is a scholarship to further tertiary education whereas ASEAN scholarship is a study grant to pursue A level in Singapore.

Back to the spirit of meritocracy or the jungle rule of survival, only the better survive.

For students who survive in Singapore A level, they will then study in NUS and later pursue postgraduate in NUS or prestigious universities outside Singapore.

For students who awarded JPA scholarship, they will have to go through the grill and brainwash of Jabatan Tatatertib Negara, and if they are “unlucky”, they will go to countries like Indonesia, Russia, Turkey to pursue their tertiary education, and the unlucky lots always are…..!!!!

My point is for top achievers,they are the best students academically and the choices are wide, JPA is not the only choice.
Whilst you maybe right about JPA being not the only choice, do note it is THE CHOICE.
And as far as choices are concern, parents or applicants should be aware that ASEAN scholarship has its weakness and hurdles as a few members here have pointed out.
Take note, JPA covers from preU and follows thru to Uni.

Speaking of fairness and standards, did you realized an abnormally from the 2009SPM - Students sit for the Chinese paper didn't do well in the overall ranking.
The ranking is based on average marks of all the subjects taken, it was observed that the standards for the SPM Chinese paper was astronomically high.

HTCHONG
09-04-2010, 01:38 PM
NUS Engineering course annual tuition fees are S$9,540.

http://www.eng.nus.edu.sg/ugrad/prospective/eng_faq.html

If take A-level in Singapore, then either the :
1. father-mother must be loaded.
2. result must be tip top so that can take another scholarship for the university study.

JPA scholarship may be more of a guarantee of a degree (of course, the countries or uni not known... :(

Not so bad lah…Lets convey the right message. I must admit the admission criteria to NUS are stringent. Bearing in mind, NUS ranks No. 30 in the world on par with UCLA (University of California, Los Angeles). That does not mean that our policies are not people-oriented.

http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/?gclid=CMma2Zrv-KACFQaiagod8EOStA

There are financial aid packages such as NUS or MOE bursaries, short-term study loan, donated scholarships and even computer loan for students. :) :)

http://www.nus.edu.sg/oam/scholarships-financialaid/financialaid/financial-index.html

Rhiga
09-04-2010, 01:43 PM
Whilst you maybe right about JPA being not the only choice, do note it is THE CHOICE.
And as far as choices are concern, parents or applicants should be aware that ASEAN scholarship has its weakness and hurdles as a few members here have pointed out.
Take note, JPA covers from preU and follows thru to Uni.

Speaking of fairness and standards, did you realized an abnormally from the 2009SPM - Students sit for the Chinese paper didn't do well in the overall ranking.The ranking is based on average marks of all the subjects taken, it was observed that the standards for the SPM Chinese paper was astronomically high.

Of course I know and I knew it in 1985 when I sit for my SPM.

I scored all A in all the subjects including BM but my Mandarin was C5.

I still don’t think my command of BM is better than Mandarin.