USJ2 GnG (for)

[RolyPoly]

To all residents of USJ2,

The Guarded and Gated Pro-tem Committee is sending out survey forms to evaluate the security situation in USJ2 before proceeding with further actions required to have a crime-free residential area. We hope you will check your mailbox and give your full co-operation and feedback by answering the survey form. Your support is greatly appreciated to enable us to progress on in getting USJ2 gated and guarded.

Thank you.

[RolyPoly]

Have met and get to know my neighbours when I went around our street with another neighbour. Also kena 'halau' by one resident. Still got over 20 houses that have not return the feedback forms to us.

Dear residents, please give us your co-operations. Either you agree or disagree, fill in the form and let us hear your opinion. No point keep silence and when the GnG is up, you claim your opinion has never been seeked.

[gtl]

roly/ pro tem committee,

good luck and thanks for the hard work.

[rakyat]

The 'going around asking for consent' is getting tiresome and furthermore some 'neighbours' are downright rude. I wonder whether it is really required to go through this exercise b/4 setting up the GnG....

Are we trying to say that since the occupant have signed the questionaire, they forgo their right to object to the project in later date? Legal aspect, I think the questionaire does not act as an indemnity letter and even after giving consent, the person can object ro even seek legal redress. Or is the questionaire a gauge of how many ppl will 'participate' i.e. pay. From my experience, agree & signing the form does not mean they will pay; They just agree that YOU do the work, set-up the gates and pay for their safety....

Hence we have put in our effort but IMO we should now proceed with the preliminary steps of setting up the GnG and don't have to sweat so much about concensus. As long as there are enough supportive ppl & amt collected is enuf to set-up the initial security perimeter.

In a real world scenerio, you can never get 100% agreement especially when there is outlay of $$$

[RolyPoly]

rakyat, the going around is really tiring. It would be nice if residents show support and appreciation. I do meet some very nice people who thank us. That really motivate us that we are doing something worthwhile for our community. Of course there were those nasty ones. You know what....I had my neighbour as my buddy and my neighbour would give me theraphy pep talk whenever some nasty residents were rude to me. That really kept me going.

This morning's meeting with residents went well. We were scolded by a man who complaint that he didn't receive the flyer invitation. We apologized for being short-handed. The man continued to scold. Sigh!

Luckily during Q&A session, our deputy chairperson gave a good speech and ask the residents if they don't want this GnG project, just say so and we will drop it instantly. We are all doing it to protect our home and loved ones. No volunteers are being paid to go around. We are doing it voluntarily. No need to be nasty to us. Do come forward to volunteer and help in order to understand why and what we are doing. His speech really got some residents who were still sitting on the fence to come forward and approach us to fill up the feedback form voluntarily.

You are right, filling up the Feedback Form is not a legal binding document that one agrees to pay. It is to gauge residents opinion. With at least 70% support, then only the GnG can go ahead. The success of the project is subject to continuous support of residents through monthly payment.

[RolyPoly]

roly/ pro tem committee,

good luck and thanks for the hard work.


Thanks, gtl. Were you at the meeting this morning? Come la to the Community Hall at USJ2/4S on every Sat at 2.30pm to join the Pro-tem Committee's meeting. Only residents of USJ2 are allowed to sit in for the meeting. This is to prevent people with not known background (ahem...robbers..or ..etc) from participating and knowing what the residents are doing to improve security here.

[thelaw48]

Dear Roly Poly,

I appreciate the committee’s initiative to organize the meet. It is an honour to have YB, Chief Insp. Loi and other speakers to attend. I would like to extend my sincere thank you to the VIPs and committee members for their good efforts. You people will have my support of your GNG project.

However, there was a little disappointing in the Q & A session; the way certain questions were answered. It could have been better should the committee allows the criticism to digest before reacting too defensive. We have to remember that this is a community thing there is no right or wrong here and nothing can be factual, unlike figures and numbers that can sum up. The soft issue is the greatest obstacle in every community work and I hope this group can endure and understands this fact.

We have to respect everybody opinions in the community. Everyone have his or her experiences and many things we do not know and every point brought up may be very important to each individual. For example, they have every right to reject visitor at their home if they do not know the person. You can make claims that that you are so and so, so are the robbers. For me I will not even have to answer the doorbell. I have even taught my entire family member to do the same. I do not feel that I am selfish at all. It is not rude these days especially the many stories about how homes been robbed etc. It is not even safe to stand inside our own compound with a stranger at the gate these days.

Otherwise very good work!

Thank You Team

[Avanza]

The USJ2 GnG committee members have done a lot of voluntary work to initiate this GnG project but many residents are still waiting for this GnG project to happened. To make this happened, all of us have to come out and support the committee members. If people are shy away, this project will never be successful. Make and effort to attend the Saturday 2:30pm meeting (from weekly to now fortnightly) at the USJ2 Community Hall (at the park) and HELP! Action speaks lauder than words!

[sivanesh69]

Hi there everyone !
I've done some self research & also some surveying, these so call security guys on motorbikes aren't real deal. As in, it's noisy at times they/he passing by houses at odd hours, even I wake up and look outside my window or door. Due to all these recent break in's and all I always keep my self EXTRA alert not only for the safety of my family but the neighbors too. Let's say 'we' are the robber trying to sneak through the back or side or where ever there is access for them to get their job of the day done hear any bikes or sees any lights flashing they would run or hide. As we know they are smarter in the dark.So why not for a change we be smarter in their kind of mind?? If ever the GnG or any other comes up to a start, I think having these patrolling guys on bikes nor car flashing their torch-lights into houses or cars are ridiculous.

I've come up with some methods in mind. Hope to come up with a strong Proposal with my colleague to be handed to the Committee.

*this is my point of view with no barriers in mind.TQ.
USJ2 resident~ :)

[rakyat]

Hi there everyone !
I've done some self research & also some surveying, these so call security guys on motorbikes aren't real deal. As in, it's noisy at times they/he passing by houses at odd hours, even I wake up and look outside my window or door. Due to all these recent break in's and all I always keep my self EXTRA alert not only for the safety of my family but the neighbors too. Let's say 'we' are the robber trying to sneak through the back or side or where ever there is access for them to get their job of the day done hear any bikes or sees any lights flashing they would run or hide. As we know they are smarter in the dark.So why not for a change we be smarter in their kind of mind?? If ever the GnG or any other comes up to a start, I think having these patrolling guys on bikes nor car flashing their torch-lights into houses or cars are ridiculous.

I've come up with some methods in mind. Hope to come up with a strong Proposal with my colleague to be handed to the Committee.

*this is my point of view with no barriers in mind.TQ.
USJ2 resident~ :)

Siva,

One of the plus point of the GnG is the guards i.e. patrolling the area as opposed to only Gated. If and when wwe start our GnG we will not have the funds to gate up the entire outer perimeter. This will only come in phase 3 and when we have enuf support and funding (FYI it will cost appox RM100k to fence up the whole USJ2). Since there is no perimeter fencing, thief can easily slip pass the gates and patrolling guards can act as a deterant. Do you know that besides the snatch theft and parang weilding gang, USJ2 is also terrorised by a lone thief who enter houses via rooftop? He only takes currency and jewerly; how is the gate gonna stop him?


Taking into account the noise of the motorcycle, we can provide them with bicycles instead but bear in mind that USJ2 is a large residential area. We would appreciate your suggestion on an alternative & I hope it is not forming vigilante gangs coz I'll not risk my life fighting with armed robbers or sacrifice my family time walking around in the dark

[RolyPoly]

I have received this form from the USJ2 GnG Committee and wanna share it with all of you here, especially those who are living in USJ2.

Dear Residents of USJ2,

We are pleased to inform you that after much planning and discussion, and requests from residents, a decision has been taken to launch the GnG Project in 3 phases, with the 1st phase beginning on 1 Feb 2010. USJ2 has 2,700 homes and logistics involved are complex. The projected schedule is as follows:

Phase 1 : Area Zone 1: USJ2/5, 2/6, 2/7 and parts of 2/4, 2/3 and 2/1
Targeted Date of Implementation: 1 Feb 2010


Phase 2 : Area Zone 2 & Targeted Date of Implementation: 1 Apr 2010


Phase 3 : Area Zone 3 Targeted Date of Implementation: 1 June 2010

Security Setup:

1. Guards will be stationed at various entrance.

2. Temporary barriers comprising of drums, cones and shelters for the guards.

3. There will also be 24-hour patrolling by uniformed security personnel during the grace period.

4. Costs will be monitored as well as traffic flow. Barriers may be re-positioned after moitoring traffic flow and residents' feedbacks.

5. MPSJ, Bomba and the Subang Police will also be kept aware of our scheme and the roads to be closed prior to implementation.


Your Contribution


To fund the ongoing project, we seek contributions from every homeowner/resident. Based on the initial calculations for Zone 1, the contribution requested is RM180 broken down as follows:


* Initial Setup (one time payment) - for cones, barriers, shelters for guards: RM30 per household

* Monthly fee to be collected up front for 3 montsh - To pay for the 24-hour guards working on shifts at all entry/exit points: RM50 per month x 3 = RM150 to cover for the month of Feb, Mar & Apr

* Total contribution for Quarter 1: RM180

Payment will be made to the USJ2 Resident Association's bank account no.

For further clarification/enquiry, please send email to USJ2_community-owner@yahoogroups.com.

[RolyPoly]

My neighbour and I have gone around my street in USJ2 to seek for support for the GnG project. Many residents are supportive of it. However not many are willing to play an active role in the committee, for example by being a Road Representative.

On top of that, many streets in my part of USJ2 has no participation / attendance in any of the meeting/discussion on this GnG. It is disheartening to see the lack of participation among these residents. Despite the rise of crimes in our area, many prefer to leave the responsibility of securing their residential areas to others! We are very disappointed in the attitude of these people.

It's frustrating that the GnG project will now kickstart but my area (USJ2/2) will not be a part of it. I have been hoping that GnG will start in USJ2 and was so glad when Alan Chuah sent out invites through this forum to garner support. At least someone is taking the lead and all we can do is to show some support!

I am mad when I see many cynical residents jeering and throwing snide remarks in this forum about GnG and during the meeting with residents at USJ2. Please have some thoughts for those of us who are hoping that this GnG materialize and help to improve the security of our residential area. I know the security enforcement should be the task of the police force. But if this has failed, isn't it time for us to play our part to improve our own security?

Frankly, I have been living in fear ever since I saw a snatch case that happened near the hawker stalls near F&G in USJ2 about 5 years ago. I know how easy it was done. And I have heard many screams for help from victims just in front of my gate to know how bad the situation in USJ2/2 areas. Yet, many of the fellow residents in USJ2/2 remain to be passive and waiting for others in USJ2 to work on improving this security issue! How sad!!! I hope you will wake up real soon and start to play a more proactive roles!! No one can help you if you don't even want to help yourself! :mad:

[evelynlim]

Your Contribution


* Monthly fee to be collected up front for 3 montsh - To pay for the 24-hour guards working on shifts at all entry/exit points: RM50 per month x 3 = RM150 to cover for the month of Feb, Mar & Apr


As mentioned, usj 2 has 2700 houses/owners. Assuming only 80% agreed to this G&G, 2160xRM50=RM108K per month. Is the cost of the guards/maintenance/other MISC cost that much every month?

[Fang Su]

Taking into account the noise of the motorcycle, we can provide them with bicycles instead but bear in mind that USJ2 is a large residential area. We would appreciate your suggestion on an alternative & I hope it is not forming vigilante gangs coz I'll not risk my life fighting with armed robbers or sacrifice my family time walking around in the dark

I am glad to know that you are a supporter of the proposed USJ2 GnG.

I can also appreciate the fact that you do not want to risk your life fighting with armed robbers. But there are many other things you can do. For example, if you have not attended any GnG meetings, why don't you attend and be a committee member? There are so many things we can do to build and safeguard this community. There are also many gotong royong projects. Many of us sacrifice our family times. Many of us are working mothers to boot. Let's all make an effort to put in some time for the community we live in.

Thank you.

[aursong]

Hi,
I respect and thankful for all the committees’ handworks/efforts on all these but do try to understand from others that are not keen on these. Personally I am against GnG in my neighborhood and I will list down a few reasons why some are against it.

1. The money need to contribute may not be much for some, but it might be a really heavy burden for others. For those that just starting a family, renting house the extra money need to fork out for the GnG services might be too heavy for them.
2. Privacy/Inconvenient – I have seen other neighborhood in USJ that had setup the G&G. It feels like a confine area where privacy is being violated. Also with the roadblocks being setup it make it so inconvenient to travel around.
3. The effectiveness of the guard service – I have heard before in which house/car is being broke in not far from the guard house/pondok being setup in GnG area. The guards hired will probably be foreigner workers and how effective are them is matters to be debate. Responsibilities – At the end of the day, the real responsibilities of taking care of our safety should really fall upon on the police department. One or two police patrol in the area 24/7 is certainly much effective then setting up number of roadblocks/hiring a couple dozen guards.

These are only my 2 cents. I see there are a lot that feel strongly to materialize the GnG and condemning those that are not supportive/don’t give any participation on this. Is just a matter of personal opinion/choice, some people just don’t like their neighborhood to be change into a confine area and have their privacy violated.

[rakyat]

I am glad to know that you are a supporter of the proposed USJ2 GnG.

I can also appreciate the fact that you do not want to risk your life fighting with armed robbers. But there are many other things you can do. For example, if you have not attended any GnG meetings, why don't you attend and be a committee member? There are so many things we can do to build and safeguard this community. There are also many gotong royong projects. Many of us sacrifice our family times. Many of us are working mothers to boot. Let's all make an effort to put in some time for the community we live in.

Thank you.

I'm a member of the GnG committee

[rakyat]

Hi,
I respect and thankful for all the committees’ handworks/efforts on all these but do try to understand from others that are not keen on these. Personally I am against GnG in my neighborhood and I will list down a few reasons why some are against it.

1. The money need to contribute may not be much for some, but it might be a really heavy burden for others. For those that just starting a family, renting house the extra money need to fork out for the GnG services might be too heavy for them.
2. Privacy/Inconvenient – I have seen other neighborhood in USJ that had setup the G&G. It feels like a confine area where privacy is being violated. Also with the roadblocks being setup it make it so inconvenient to travel around.
3. The effectiveness of the guard service – I have heard before in which house/car is being broke in not far from the guard house/pondok being setup in GnG area. The guards hired will probably be foreigner workers and how effective are them is matters to be debate. Responsibilities – At the end of the day, the real responsibilities of taking care of our safety should really fall upon on the police department. One or two police patrol in the area 24/7 is certainly much effective then setting up number of roadblocks/hiring a couple dozen guards.

These are only my 2 cents. I see there are a lot that feel strongly to materialize the GnG and condemning those that are not supportive/don’t give any participation on this. Is just a matter of personal opinion/choice, some people just don’t like their neighborhood to be change into a confine area and have their privacy violated.

Nobody will dispute that it is the duty of the police & the government to ensure safety of the rakyat. We have also suggested to the PDRM to have foot patrol in USJ2 especially the mainroad fronting Summit as the incidence of snatch theft was very rampant. But we only see the patrol car in USJ2 when there is an incident i.e. 'bolting the barn after the horses & cows have fled'

The politically correct statement is 'we understand the PDRM is severly undermanned and is doing their best' but the truth is they have other 'priorities'. Hence do we 'take action' or do we lay down?

If you feel that RM50.00 per month is too much (I find this hard to believe especially in USJ) then contribute what you can, non-paying residence will not be penalized or targetted. We understand that not every household will agree with the GnG but ultimately we are doing this for the safety of the neighbourhood. Honestly, I'm not bothered if most do not pay; I just want to improve the security and safety of my household and I'm willing to sponsor your household to achieve it; just do not derail it. As the committee members will atest, we have already contributed more then the initial 3 months cash and hours of our time to this project

Ya, some of you are really good in maths and can work out the exact monthly collection. But in the real world context the maths do not add up. Pls. bear in mind that we only take into account 50% to 60% who will contribute and we need to have a sinking fund in order to fence up the perimeter and other misc. expenses. The accounts will be posted to the community (made public) and we will try to be as transparent as possible.

[StephanieChin]

It's frustrating that the GnG project will now kickstart but my area (USJ2/2) will not be a part of it.


Is it too late to do anything now in order to include USJ2/2 in the G&G ? Can we start another campaign just for USJ2/2 or other USJ 2 areas which are being excluded from this project ?

I have also noticed that not many residents from USJ2/2 are aware of this eventhough there is a banner put up near the Petronas. The banner just announce the intention but didnt inform the time and venue of the voting. I did not receive any flyers or brochures and i only got to know about this through this forum. None of my neighbours are aware and we took the liberty to inform them as many as we could.

[issacliew]

notice that the latest letter given that the car sticker given to every household is only 2, what about those house that have more than that? can we register more cars and pay for the sticker?

[rakyat]

Is it too late to do anything now in order to include USJ2/2 in the G&G ? Can we start another campaign just for USJ2/2 or other USJ 2 areas which are being excluded from this project ?

I have also noticed that not many residents from USJ2/2 are aware of this eventhough there is a banner put up near the Petronas. The banner just announce the intention but didnt inform the time and venue of the voting. I did not receive any flyers or brochures and i only got to know about this through this forum. None of my neighbours are aware and we took the liberty to inform them as many as we could.

Do pm me which 2/2 u r located, I passed out the questionires for the 5 streets in 2/2G to 2/2L (total 250 homes) although most home did not respond to it. I even went house to house knocking on doors during the week ends but hardly any1 responded (mayb afternoon nap)

It is not 'too late' and intention is to include 2/2 after 3 months (phase 2) although we will need to get 80% consensus. Due to work commitment, I'll not be able to continue canvassing for the questionaire; mayb you can assist along your row

[rakyat]

notice that the latest letter given that the car sticker given to every household is only 2, what about those house that have more than that? can we register more cars and pay for the sticker?

The 1st 2 stickers are given FOC, additional stickers will be charged at 'close to cost'

[issacliew]

what is the plan for the GnG now?
so far i only see 1 guard and the shelter on the way turning in from gate 3, and is not even lighted up at night, which doesnt provide any meaning.

[ramukguy]

The GnG Committee - I salute you'll for your great effort in going ahead with the GnG plan. You are doing a great job. My support is there for you guys.

For those who oppose the GnG plan - Do you know how you'll feel if you had your house broked in or your vehicle had been stolen or your loved ones were injured by criminals.

My MPV was stolen a week ago and my family and I are yet to recover from that lost. My friend's house was broked in a few months ago and it effected their life very badly. This cheerfull family have become very reserved and secluded even since.

[jan tomaswaki]

The GnG Committee - I salute you'll for your great effort in going ahead with the GnG plan. You are doing a great job. My support is there for you guys.

For those who oppose the GnG plan - Do you know how you'll feel if you had your house broked in or your vehicle had been stolen or your loved ones were injured by criminals.

My MPV was stolen a week ago and my family and I are yet to recover from that lost. My friend's house was broked in a few months ago and it effected their life very badly. This cheerfull family have become very reserved and secluded even since.
Helo kawan baru,betul ke ? don't just simply taruh ,PM me your MPV no.and make so i can ask the higher authourities to look for you.

[rakyat]

I personally share ramukguy's predicament; my 'used to be cheerful' wife is now somewhat paranoid after our house was broken into (afternoon 12 months ago) and we lost her wedding jewelries. She will do an inspection everynight to make sure all the doors are padlocked including our bedroom door before retiring. She also refuse to carry a handbag after being a snatch theft victim when she was 6 months pregnant (thank god the strap snapped) Both incidence we did report to the police but their body language and the attitude leaves much to be desired.

Should those proponents of PDRM even need to make a police report on a burglary or snatchtheft and witness the lackluster response from the police they would understand why the residence need to 'take matter into our own hands' and hire auxiliary guards.

issacliew,

Currently the guard and setup is in a preliminary stage and we are trying out with min. knowledge and resources. We hope to get more feedback on how to improve the locality and equipments needed. We will be adding more guards per checkpoint/ gate (suggested 3 guards per point) before CNY holidays. We are also trying to get donation for permenant guard booths with flood lights installed so far we are able to secure enough resources for 1.5 booth.

Please bear with us as we cannot go full implementation due to the various constraints but we are taking steps and will be constantly be adjusting it until we reach the desired arrangement.

[joni]

In due respect to Rakyat, for his dedication and commitment for the community, I hope all USJ residents should gave this man full support to ensure the GnG Project a success.

Most of us can agree that, be it in an organization or a community, there are always barriers or resistances surface whenever we try to make a change.

Therefore, by giving an opportunity to ourselve, calm down and think in a sensible manner, most of us will agree now or even later that GnG Project is for the better of the community.

I also hope all residents can agree to the traffic flow already established by the Committee and coorperate with the uniform security guards employed for them to perform their duty more efficiently. (I also hope that security guards can note down those vehicles purposeful going against the rules, and keep the Committee inform of the incident.)

Surely, for the Project per se, all of us need time and will slowly (not too slow) change our mindset to accept the inconveniences, if any; hence, giving ourselve a chance to live in a GnG community environment and enjoy living in a safe and peaceful residential area.

[gtl]

i support the effort to GNG USJ 2.........make it safe for the all.

[aursong]

I understand the work done by those who wish to have G&G/F&G setup. But do understand everyone has their own choice of their residential area. USJ was never build as a confine community and I wish not to stay in this kind of residential area. (It may not deter me to move, but I certainly do not wish/support of this being setup.)

Just take note that there are people that oppose of this. Is just a choice of living, there's no right or wrong. I'm not sure which should be refer to, there's so many different view on this. Some say need majority % of agreement, some say even one person doesn't agree it is still consider against the law. When G&G/F&G really being setup, don't be suprise that some people would do what in legally mean to bring it back down.

[rakyat]

It is true that technically it is illegal to set-up FnG even if 1% of the residence do not agree but MPSJ and PDRM view it as a proactive initiative to reduce crime in the neighborhood and if a simple majority support, they will 'tutup satu mata'

In every initiative involving a diverse group of people there is not gonna be 100% concensus. There will be ppl who are against it due to their personal reasons. It is just a matter of 'live and let live'; yes it tend to be a nuisanse but this is done with best intention and for the safety of the whole community. If you do not agree, then you can voice your stand and refuse to contribute but to take legal action and dismantle the 'gates' is going to the extreme.

But again it is the person's prerogative, we are just appealing to you as a neighbour to have some empathy to those of us who are 'trying to make our area safer' over those who 'wants total freedom of access'

[joni]

The set up of G&G community is to deter crime and theft in the residential area for safety and peaceful living of the community. Some may have strong resistance to the sudden changed of their livelihood, designated traffic flow and visitors registration at the entry points. However, if we especially parents, can trade off those inconveniences for the benefits to our family and property, I find that we can change our mind set to accept these changes.

I suggest all resident in the community to give full support to the Project. Give the Project the benefits of the doubt in this initial stage, time may proof to all of us that the Project is a sucessful one.

First thing first, we must meet the objective of the G&G Project, that is we request the Committee to ensure that the Uniform Security Guards under our payroll perform their duty deligently and take full responsibility to upheld the their professional integrity for safety and security of the USJ2 Community.

Our collective efforts to make this Project successfuly is ONLY for our community !

[Amanda]

Im curious. if i may seek for your understanding. why are you against the GnG? I tot security/food/etc are human beings basic needs.


I understand the work done by those who wish to have G&G/F&G setup. But do understand everyone has their own choice of their residential area. USJ was never build as a confine community and I wish not to stay in this kind of residential area. (It may not deter me to move, but I certainly do not wish/support of this being setup.)

Just take note that there are people that oppose of this. Is just a choice of living, there's no right or wrong. I'm not sure which should be refer to, there's so many different view on this. Some say need majority % of agreement, some say even one person doesn't agree it is still consider against the law. When G&G/F&G really being setup, don't be suprise that some people would do what in legally mean to bring it back down.

[rakyat]

The set up of G&G community is to deter crime and theft in the residential area for safety and peaceful living of the community. Some may have strong resistance to the sudden changed of their livelihood, designated traffic flow and visitors registration at the entry points. However, if we especially parents, can trade off those inconveniences for the benefits to our family and property, I find that we can change our mind set to accept these changes.

I suggest all resident in the community to give full support to the Project. Give the Project the benefits of the doubt in this initial stage, time may proof to all of us that the Project is a sucessful one.

First thing first, we must meet the objective of the G&G Project, that is we request the Committee to ensure that the Uniform Security Guards under our payroll perform their duty deligently and take full responsibility to upheld the their professional integrity for safety and security of the USJ2 Community.

Our collective efforts to make this Project successfuly is ONLY for our community !

Joni,

With regard to the security guard taking full responsibility; if it is a criteria then no security company will partake in our tender. It is not a guarantee that no crime will happen as this is near impossible. We in the tender committee do take proactive steps by vetting through the security company (afew that I personally had dealings with in the course of my work) invited for the tender and interviewing those companies which are shortlisted. There is also a clause in the contract for termination due poor performance; all security co. also have a professional indemnity insurance that can be triggered in a legal case against negligence (long and difficult process).

Disclaimer: Although I personally know some of the security co. mgmt., I do not have a say on which company will win the tender; in order to be above board, this will be decided by another committee which none of the tender committee members can participate in

[joni]

Joni,
With regard to the security guard taking full responsibility; if it is a criteria then no security company will partake in our tender. It is not a guarantee that no crime will happen as this is near impossible.

Rakyat,
Definitely you have perceived WRONGLY when I mentioned about security guards taking 'full responsibility' in the course of performing their duty. I also agreed with you it is near impossible for them to guarantee zero crime in the area.

However, most of residents would like to know what theirs duty include, just to name a few,
1) nos of guards at specific locations & time of duty
2) record of traffic in/out flow during peak/low hours
3) registration vehicles nos. in/out of the designated gates

Lastly, can residents be informed about security guards activity during CNY from 12nd Feb to 20th Feb, special arrangement by Committee if any; especially during these period of time most of the residents are leaving for their HOME TOWN.

[akiyoshi]

There are so many USJ2 GnG THreads, pretty confused which one to post to. Moderator, can you kindly copy this posting to all other USJ2 GnG threads ??
I am not for nor against USJ2 GnG as I don't live there.

But I am travelling in/out the roads there at least 4 times a day as my kids are schooling there.

Yesterday, a triangular-shaped divider was built right smack in the middle of the entry road from Jalan Tujuan to USJ2. Is this MPSJ approved ? May I ask the RA what purpose does this divider serve in terms of security of your GnG initiative ?

During peak period, ie after school hours and with those coming home from work in the evening, what used to be a flexible 2 lane going out from this road was reduced to one lane merged from 3 lanes of cars trying to squeeze out of USJ2 to Jalan Tujuan. And with the sharp angles from the dividers, it obstructs traffic more than anything else, and makes manouvering the corners with so little room very difficult.

Today, after a heavy downpour, the insides of the triangular shaped divider became storage of rainwater.

Please do whatever you wish to improve security but pls do not cause jam as a result. Do you have the right to build such a divider on public road ?

[sivanesh69]

Hello every1. I'm a resident in USJ2 . Just an hour ago, I was at Ehsan Restaurant having a drink with my cousin, an incident occurred in front of our eyes. A car driver arrived was fuelling up in Petronas. All of a sudden I was told by my cousin that two people were fighting . I saw a guy with helmet on & another man (car driver) fighting. I assumed that it was an argument between them, then I realized that he was being attacked & robbed. He was attacked by two of them and he ran towards & away from his vehicle heading towards the shop. One guy with helmet on chased him and at the other side of the station (near the exit/entrance) there were about 4 bikes waiting. All happen in spilt seconds, the attacker ran back towards his friends and all went off!! Why isn't there a security check 'pondok' at the entrance near both bus stops ! ! Even this shows the security guards/officers are NOT AWARE of suspicious vehicles & people. Isn't it odd that a group of bikes which hardly comes into USJ2 area all of a sudden at about 4.00am - 4.30am riding in ??? These security personnel’s are supposed to be having EAGLE EYES meaning knowing what's going on & who are to be categorized in the suspicious list. I'm a trained & qualified Private Security Officer ( with license) & I know what's the real deal once we're on duty & in our uniform. These kind of groups at this hours are supposed to be monitored. The check point officers should have aired on his walkie talkie to the patrol officer who is on duty at that zone or near that zone. Ordering him to keep an eye & monitor these bikers. This officers have all the rights to do so. It's their duty in the whole USJ2 area. I feel it's not safe at all. After returning back from Singapore as an Private Security Officer seeing this change whereby all this check points and guards around i felt safe. Especially for my mother who is staying alone at home. Although I've had a short period of experience as an Officer I've learnt many things to use it to maintain and keep the security of others & the respective area a safe place to be in. What if the driver was stabbed? What if students who study at SEGi college here living far away from family decide to walk to the shops at hours past midnight get attacked? Many matters are to be discussed & strategies to be bloomed to create a safer place & gaining the confidence of the residents of USJ2 . With or without the fencing ! ! It's not about the fence anymore. It's about the proper ways to tackle the coming dangers & being prepared.
I've decided to speak & meet those who are involved in the USJ2 security department soon.
Thank you & have a pleasant day.