USJ4 Area Security Discussion (against) [Archive]

SCCheah

04-03-2010, 05:09 PM

Lord,

Didn't u read my comments? I made a police report some 3 weeks ago at USJ8 police station when I nearly crashed my car into those USJ2 oil drums. Still no action from the police. Half hour ago when I was driving to USJ2 to fetch my kids from the day care as usual, I noticed there was no guards there (tent empty) but on my way back from day care centre, I spotted the guard hiding among the shady trees.

As for Star report today- I said all these things from Day 1.

Look we (me and family) respect the wish of some residents to protect themselves but whole issue has got out of hand and federal govt must step in. Some elements seem to be in a hurry to fence up first, oil drum first, gantries first and approvals later. Tak boleh lah.

Pple made to spend money on the fencing. I have praised the wisdom of USJ Aman RA. They do things step by step.

nona

04-03-2010, 06:03 PM

Is there such an RA covering the whole USJ4 ? :confused: I was under the impression the whole area was split into 3 different sections with their own RAs and schemes.

USJ4 AMAN RA-pro-tem (abolished due to lack of response)-USJ4/1-USJ4/2
USJ4 TUDOR RA - USJ4/3-USJ4/4
USJ4 (no name yet) - USJ4/5-USJ4/9

currymee does it matter...lets not digress into technicalities.

I mentioned clearly at USJ4 tudor isn't that sufficifient. When i post the question quite some time back i accepted someone responsible from fencing up the area would had spoken up la.

anyway based on what you had said ...i am in USJ4 (no name yet) which I hope it remains that way. And in addition to that I hope MPSJ will do something about people whom are encroaching it road shoulders in front of their houses with flower pots and what not

azman0123

04-03-2010, 06:28 PM

Hey, good article there ksj_cool! Great read. Thanks.

From the article, it looks like some laws may be broken if they continue to persist:

sections 46 (1) of Street Drainage and Building Act 1974;
section 80 of the Road Transport Act 1987; and
section(s) 62 and 136 of the National Land Code 1965.

Also on top of all that, it still mentions "the consent of at least 85% of the residents." And "overwhelming support of the local residents." Which is .....? Nowhere to be found in USJ2!

P/S On a lighter note, but still relevant, have you guys thought of where these guards do their business when nature calls? Honestly, I don't really see a public toilet where they are stationed. All I see are some trees and bushes. Is a guard stationed near where you live?

currymee

04-03-2010, 08:15 PM

currymee does it matter...lets not digress into technicalities.

I mentioned clearly at USJ4 tudor isn't that sufficifient. When i post the question quite some time back i accepted someone responsible from fencing up the area would had spoken up la.

anyway based on what you had said ...i am in USJ4 (no name yet) which I hope it remains that way. And in addition to that I hope MPSJ will do something about people whom are encroaching it road shoulders in front of their houses with flower pots and what not

It does matter as I heard TUDOR have a very HIGH % ACCEPTANCE RATE while AMAN failed miserably and (no name) in your area/section there are volunteers that are in active canvassing mode. So, if you plan to hold someone responsible for any legal/police action and take them to court, you have to get the RIGHT RA or else, you may get counter-sued for defamation.

SCCheah

04-03-2010, 08:41 PM

currymee. You are missing nona's point. Nona is concerned about the road that has been blocked in Tudor area which has inconvenienced children walking to the nearby school. I know that area very well as it is just next to my USJ4/1. What has that to do with high acceptance level?

:confused:

SCCheah

04-03-2010, 09:30 PM

Have you all read SJEcho carefully?
What do you think?

I know what to do next GE.

currymee

04-03-2010, 10:27 PM

.... What has that to do with high acceptance level?

What I wanted to highlighted was that there are 3 different RAs (pro-tems) looking after the length and breadth of USJ4 and each section of the USJ4 community RAs (all protems) has got different levels of support for and against GnG, apathy and work in progress.

So, Nona should be specific if she said she wanted to hold someone responsible, be sure to get the RIGHT RA, in this case, I assumed she meant USJ4 TUDOR RA - be sure of your facts and don't generalise as USJ4RA since this is a sensitive issue and I expect to see a lot of court cases and lawsuits flying around in the near future by both sides !!

BTW, SCCheah, what is the progress of your proposed CCTV scheme for the area? What is the cost and effectiveness as a security system? Any statistics? Have you sent out flyers or call for a meeting of the residents to ask the residents if they accept/reject the concept?

It looks like yours is the only security scheme left and running for the USJ4/1 area.

PS: Best to discuss USJ4 situation in another new thread - not fair to "HIJACK" any USJ2 thread - my apologises to USJ2 readers/forumers :o .

jan tomaswaki

04-03-2010, 11:47 PM

Dear All,

Here is the new thread to discuss security matters for the USJ4 area - I don't think it is nice to "mess up" all the USJ2 GnG threads with unrelated to USJ2 discussions .... :o :o

SJ that bad meh...got canggih MPSJ and Balai Polis...so inspiring robbers have no where to go....after the whole SJ/USJ fence up...so USJ4 is thier next target...soon...."Welcome to SJ/USJ the mothers of all FnG,GnG" where you need permission to go out to pay your bills....anyway have you seen the movie "the gods must be crazy" where in the early part of the movie a lady needs to drive a car in a short distance just to throw a letter in a leeterbox..

Firebird

04-03-2010, 11:55 PM

For the love of eating oysters, can we let the POLICE do their job? Please. This GnG whatever nonsense has gone far enough. Let the police catch the bad guys. They are paid to do that. Not only that but they are well equipped with the necessary firearms to carry out their duties.

Apologies if I voiced out my opinion in the wrong thread. :p

SCCheah

04-03-2010, 11:56 PM

Why get so excited over a remark? Are you one of those going around asking people to put oil drums first and get approvals later? You sound like one.

Thank heavens USJ4/1 is not the only one in SJ/USJ left without FnG. My neighbours and I have our way of working things out. NOYB. BTW, who are these RAs? Many residents are not even members or properly informed (eg of election). Some RAs merely elect among themselves and bulldoze their FnG. Why are these pple in "active canvassing mode?" You pple are dividing the community. What's your motive actually?? Who the hell are these pro-tem committees. Who give them the power? Surely not the majority of the residents. Show me the numbers.

I do not wish to repeat the same old argument again.

currymee

05-03-2010, 12:06 AM

.... I do not wish to repeat the same old argument again.

Likewise ... :)

SCCheah

05-03-2010, 12:07 AM

Hahaha .... really don't know what to say anymore on GnG ... already TOO TIRED and taxing a topic ... better for me to go and enjoy my delicious bowl of currymee at Choy Kee (SS19) :D

Right now, I am just waiting to read about the lawsuits and court cases on GnG .... busybody mah !! :p ;)

Yeah, you sound like a true busybody currymee. I totally agree on your self-assessment. Kindly don't disrupt the harmony of USJ township by expecting others to do this and that when many pple do not want a FnG. :D

SCCheah

05-03-2010, 12:12 AM

:D :D :D :D

Have a sweet "oil drum" dream :D :D

currymee

05-03-2010, 12:15 AM

Yeah, you sound like a true busybody currymee. I totally agree on your self-assessment. Kindly don't disrupt the harmony of USJ township by expecting others to do this and that when many pple do not want a FnG. :D

Ok, you win ... :) I actually opened up this thread for you and the others to discuss about USJ4 security matters and not get into any debates myself :)

My position on the issue is clear - any schemes that can help to enhance security are welcomed to be evaluated and considered, including beefing up the police, your CCTV plan, GnG, mongrels dogs in the yard, Neighbourhood Watch, VPU, ... - at the end of the day, final choice and decision is still mine :)

currymee

05-03-2010, 12:18 AM

:D :D :D :D

Have a sweet "oil drum" dream :D :D

I only dream of currymee :)

SCCheah

05-03-2010, 08:26 AM

How come we are the same?

My favourite is eating currymee- ala Penang style. No pun intended.

birdy

05-03-2010, 08:33 AM

How come we are the same?

My favourite is eating currymee- ala Penang style. No pun intended.
Ya... missed Penang currymee a lot .. any good one in SJ to recommend?

nona

05-03-2010, 08:39 AM

It does matter as I heard TUDOR have a very HIGH % ACCEPTANCE RATE while AMAN failed miserably and (no name) in your area/section there are volunteers that are in active canvassing mode. So, if you plan to hold someone responsible for any legal/police action and take them to court, you have to get the RIGHT RA or else, you may get counter-sued for defamation.

You are still not getting the point of arguement. It does not matter. The point here is nobody cares either there is a high acceptance rate or not. What I care is they have got no business blocking 'right of way'

And further more the guys pro FnG irrespective where cannot syiok sendiri and do things within their residential area in silo when the others whom are contributing financialy for the maintenance of their area. So every single person within the local council has a right to voice out.

I am not a lawyer...but who got 'defamed' here to lodge a defamation suit. Aiyaa curry mee ah...you watch too much of Hong Kong serial la...

currymee

05-03-2010, 08:43 AM

.....I am not a lawyer...but who got 'defamed' here to lodge a defamation suit. Aiyaa curry mee ah...you watch too much of Hong Kong serial la...

You are right :) , time to cancel the ASTRO ON DEMAND :p :p

SCCheah

05-03-2010, 08:48 AM

Please watch the Colony on Astro (forgot which channel).

Saw it months ago and now Astro is recycling shows as usual.
Briefly story is about this crazy development that has soooo many security features- residents don't have freedom of movement- check this and that, cannot do this and that. :)

nona

05-03-2010, 08:50 AM

.. :p

if we start talking about ASTRO...kwchang will gate crash and create a new thread....

driftingrover

05-03-2010, 09:11 AM

yah lah, i think this thread is going all over the places

lord

05-03-2010, 09:33 AM

Lord,

Didn't u read my comments? I made a police report some 3 weeks ago at USJ8 police station when I nearly crashed my car into those USJ2 oil drums. Still no action from the police. .....

SCC, maybe you have missed my replies to your comments. Please read tham again where I have suggested that you pay a visit to Tata-tertib in Bt. Aman if there's no action taken after 3 days of lodging your police report.

As for the lil' argument about who to drag to court and all, it's a petty issue if you ask me. What will be sad is when the need arises to do so, should an accident or something unwarranted happens to any ones son or daughter from the schools. That will be a very sad day cos it would have taken place all becoz someone or some people were selfish enough to do something without thinking, just like a certain political party in our country.

But, when the need arises to lodge a report, if I was heading the 'reporting', I will go house to house in that area to find out who is the culprit who is the 'so-called' organizer. For all that you know, they would have gone into hiding when sh!t hits the fan. So, don't worry so much who is the organizer. But what needs to be done is to apply pressure to MPSJ to dismantle the fencing and the gate so that kids can walk on the inner road and not along the main road.

And it's all bull-sh!t if the y tell you they open the small gate. I've been told that it was opened during the day when it was first erected but after a couple of weeks, it remained locked 24/7.

jan tomaswaki

05-03-2010, 09:38 AM

This morning i was thinking of setting a busness supplying to G nG like guardhouse,fencing,bulldozer,oil drums,guards and now LOCKS! :eek: Pls keep coming with ideas :D

chookyan

05-03-2010, 09:46 AM

This morning i was thinking of setting a busness supplying to G nG like guardhouse,fencing,bulldozer,oil drums,guards and now LOCKS! :eek: Pls keep coming with ideas :D

Better set up a management company to design the scheme and supply all the G n G stuffs as a package. :cool:

SCCheah

05-03-2010, 09:54 AM

OK Lord.

M'while look at SJEcho.

Page 3. SJMC committee chairman on G&G Roslan Shahrir (why SJEcho still use GnG when its officially now FnG when referring to places like USJ?) was reported as saying..."We should allow GnG but there are laws that hinder its implementation"

My view: Should allow only in new developments. Cannot do changes in existing schemes (like USJ etc). It's like making a gown from a mini skirt- cutting cloth from somewhere and patching here and there.

Roslan: "The minority however have to be accommodated as well.The rights of the minority in any area proposed for G&G have to be considered and they should not be hassled."

My view: Sounds fair but trouble is why keep on giving the impression anti-FnG/GnG are in the minority. Let's settle the issue once and for all- my suggestion in earlier thread- to get pro-FnG PAYING members put on MPSJ bulletin boards for all to see.

Roslan: ".......and also to indemnify MPSJ from any responsibility..."

My view: Wah, covering itself front and back.

Roslan: On permanent closure of roads...MPSJ would allow it, if the access points were not main roads.

My view: Itu lah- RAs so gung ho and arrogant..sided by council. Then, USJ becomes "islands" of "prisons"- disconnecting communities. Talking nonsense!!Do it in new, well-planned developments but then again house buyers in such new developments (unless it is landed strata) should have a choice of not paying the security fees. Illegal, illegal and illegal- to block any public roads- one day may lead to death!

Roslan: "Any closure of roads must not land up creating a hassle to resident...blah, blah and he said roads within an already GnG area were not permitted to be closed off.

My view: He just said earlier- MPSJ would allow closure! So ambiguious. Wonder whether he knows what he is talking!

Roslan: He then went on to mention that GnG scheme (FnG lah) in SJ not going to be permanent...cos TOL issued only..

My view: Is this an icing to sweeten our mouth? To console our plight? Hey, pple would have spent lots of money putting up fencing etc. I say stop this madness NOW!

Roslan: He said MPSJ had already gone around the different neighbourhoods to take pix of existing GnG schemes in the municipality..blah, blah.

My view: So? Aren't they taking any action? Have they checked whether rules are complied with? How transparent are they doing it?

nona

27-03-2010, 01:54 PM

I don't know what's happeing now. Been missing for a few weeks from the forum. But look like nothing is happenning. Not suprised though. USJ 4 Tudor still high and mighty above the law blocking the entrance and asking non residents to register. And blocking the walk way to school. Despite asking them to answer over here in the forum nobody did. May be no one computer literate enough in USJ 4 Tudor. :eek: :rolleyes:

And received leaflet from meeting for USJ4 RA meeting by the pro-tem committee on Saturday 4th April at the public park. So welcome all. Lets see how the USJ4 (without name yet as what currymee said) has in the pot.

I thought why don we ask Idris Jala form a lab for us ler under the CRIME component that the government transformation program. After they had impose some KPIs and ranked the police stations. Suddenly you can see the crimes in hot spot areas had reduced. Yeah...now you can say WELCOME TO KEPONG with no fear!!! I am not sure how the statstics were collected la. But really no harm trying what.

We ask for another KPI on the security force. The more application for FnG the lower the ranking will be. :D
Sorry ah policeman/woman no hard feeling. I just mean business. ;)
After all with ASPs soon to be on the ground...ok what.

driftingrover

28-03-2010, 11:25 AM

nona,

if USJ 4 tudor is blocking n restricting your movement of passage to the school, i would advice u to go lodge a police report regarding"criminal restriction of freedom of movement as a malaysian citizen" in a public area.

NOTE: if it is a public area, no one other then the police hv the right to question your movement.

just state the facts that ever since the day u reside in subang jaya , u hv had access of free movement through that area, falling which if no action is taken , ask for black n white approval from the police or mpsj, that USJ 4 Tudor hv that "permission to do so"

this can be a legal case if u wish it so

everyone can talk about breaking the law on drainage n road transport , but this goes wider, it restrict your free movement as a citizen under the law (criminal law)

nona

28-03-2010, 08:12 PM

that's what I don't understand. Why police have to wait for someone to make report? If it is criminal it is criminal. They can see it in broad day light and in pitch dark (literally) that the gate is locked up. If not police at least MPSJ should be.

driftingrover

29-03-2010, 08:57 AM

well, that is life, no one wants to be the bad guy, especially the police n mpsj, so much the better for them, less work mah!!

i hv say before , if n when "those high n mighteous" imposed their will onto me, when i m directly affected, i will make sure someone hv to pay for it.

currymee

29-03-2010, 11:09 PM

.... And received leaflet from meeting for USJ4 RA meeting by the pro-tem committee on Saturday 4th April at the public park. So welcome all. Lets see how the USJ4 (without name yet as what currymee said) has in the pot.....

I believe it is now called USJ4 Casablanca RA.

nona

29-03-2010, 11:11 PM

Yer ler...curry mee...Casablanca....ain't that the restaurant got closed up couple of time because hygenic reasons....hehehe

Not sure la...it's either Casablanca or Appollo..

currymee

29-03-2010, 11:13 PM

Yer ler...curry mee...Casablanca....ain't that the restaurant got closed up couple of time because hygenic reasons....hehehe

Not sure la...it's either Casablanca or Appollo..

Both also got whacked .... :p :p :D

nona

29-03-2010, 11:16 PM

aiyaaa...means the name is soi laa...

what about USJ4 Nona RA...make it my fan club :) :rolleyes: :cool: :D

SCCheah

30-03-2010, 06:50 AM

Apollo Restaurant is the one closer to Tudor houses. They are called Tudor because the houses are Tudor designs. Similarly, the coffee shop on the left is called Casablanca because it copied the name of the house designs called Casablanca there.

So it's more appropriate if the RA there call their RA Casablanca.

Most of the USJ 4/1 houses are called Lang - Georgian designs because of its tall master bedroom windows but some people turned the nice design into boxy shapes when they renovated their house.

nona

05-04-2010, 08:20 AM

Anyway the meeting was held yesterday. I attended as a responsible citizen. But me being me...I can smell **** from miles away. I can smell the 'not-so hidden agenda' of fencing up the area with one entrance and one exit. Some smart one ( :eek: ) actually suggest brickwall. Ain't there is easy way of staying in bricked up environment. Just do a crime and go to jail. :D

Anyway I made it clear about my opinon. I am for neighbourhood watch but forget about FnG.

That's the problem people form RA for personal agenda's. :(

driftingrover

05-04-2010, 09:49 AM

good lah,
i go to that area everyday , if it ever inconvenience me, a lawsuit will be forthcoming.

kwgoh

05-04-2010, 12:14 PM

What are the areas under Casablanca RA? Is it 4/6a-6g and 4/7?
How high they recommend to build the brickwall? :)

I am from 4/9* and I am against FnG/GnG but I support neighbourhood watch.

If they build bricks walls then USJ will be from biggest housing area --> GnG --> FnG (Zoo) to BnG (Bricked and Guarded) PRISON !!!!!! :D

SCCheah

05-04-2010, 02:38 PM

Let them build their brick wall! I want to see the big battle ahead!

Some of these kiasu people want to copy exactly (maybe more) what the existing gated and guarded residential enclaves like Damansara Legenda etc have done- brick walls, CCTV, dog guard patrols etc.

They can't afford the expensive homes and want to force others to share their kind of do-it-yourself "prison".

BTW, I am not against living inside a well-managed and well designed gated and guarded neighbourhood (provided that i can afford the monthly maintenance charges which can be a few hundred ringgit a month), but surely not our kind of fanciful cone-oil drum-barbed-wire-gantry type of fenced (oops brick) and guarded enclave.

nona

05-04-2010, 05:38 PM

Not sure how high they are recommending. But I really thought...why cover on top of the bricks it self and make it into cafe....then someone call himself David Koresh and run a cult. Sheesshhhh :p

I guess we are running parallel when come to this issue and there is no chance at the end of the horizon we can agree on something mutual.

Well I guess people are getting to busy to get to know their neighbours. Including me of course. I didn't know some of those existed on my lane. :eek:

I mean I had never seen them the whole 1 year odd I am in USJ4

driftingrover

06-04-2010, 09:08 AM

Well I guess people are getting to busy to get to know their neighbours. Including me of course. I didn't know some of those existed on my lane. :eek:

I mean I had never seen them the whole 1 year odd I am in USJ4

well, not getting to know the neighbours is bad enough, now it is getting worst(don't u think so) that this GnG is dividing the neighbours n turning them into enemies.

SCCheah

06-04-2010, 09:50 AM

Yes, turning neighbours into enemies. This is because some residents are so kiasu they simply don't care about the feelings, inconvenience or safety of others.

Now they just hope over time, people will accept their kind of fenced and guarded community. Then they may start to gated and guarded and later wall and guarded and maybe a bit later rifle-dog-high wall-armoured car-triple wall-cctv-guarded.
:)

jan tomaswaki

06-04-2010, 02:33 PM

driftingrover

06-04-2010, 03:32 PM

Now we have B n G (brick and Guard) later we have B,B&G (brick,barbwire :eek: and guard)then they divide the whole neighbour.Where are the authorities ? zzzzzzzzz.... :mad:

exactly, where r the authorities, sitting in their air-con office until something bad happen, then all they will do is point fingers n set up task force.

jan tomaswaki

06-04-2010, 03:40 PM

exactly, where r the authorities, sitting in their air-con office until something bad happen, then all they will do is point fingers n set up task force.

Thinking of it,it will be BnBnBnG :eek: brick,barbwire,broken glass and guard... :mad:

driftingrover

06-04-2010, 03:45 PM

jan

no lah,
1.either the authorities will wake up.
2.brawls will occur
3.lawsuit will fly
or
emergency law will be enacted as it seems that law n order is thrown out of the window

nona

06-04-2010, 03:46 PM

sheesshhh.....paranoia....jan tomaswaki...don't scare me.

I heard somewhere...people must have healthy amount of respect for fear but when allow fear to consume yourself totally then you are nothing but a walking dead man... :(

We change our life style a bit la. Get to know our neighbours. We do open house...neighbours must be first on list. I think Malaysian mentality did not grow as fast as development rate in Malaysia. That social aspect drowned and overshadowed by the economics rate.

Sad story of capitalist country like ours. :(

driftingrover

06-04-2010, 03:54 PM

with the emenity that these GnG hv cause, open house will end up , open house for PRO, n open house for AGAINST

lord

06-04-2010, 07:51 PM

At first, I thought it was paranoia that pushed these people to come out and support F&G. Now, I am drawn to believe it is the money that drives them. The figures azman123 posted is a clear cut conclusion to this, supported more by the silence and no-proof by the so-called RA groups. One word, hard-up for cash.

Having said everything against the F&G, I felt so sorry for the 'guard' who was sitting under a small umbrella in the afternoon some time last week while it poured cats and dogs. Honestly, I felt bad for the guy. He had his 2 knees up to his chin while trying his level best with the umbrella to keep himself away from the pouring rain. There were no guard-post, nothing or nowhere for him to take shelter. This is the kind of thought that has been put into by the so-called RA groups responsible. And we have people like Rolypoly bragging about how she was escorted to her friends house.

All those for the F&G, look into it again and ask yourself again and again if this is another half-baked concept coined by someone to rip you off your hard-earned money which you have succumbed to. You may get angry by my statement but it's ok to admit that you may have been taken in for a sucker!! It's no fault of yours.

gtl

06-04-2010, 10:54 PM

but Lordy, how can we protect ourselves then? mayb you can enlighten us?

boo_boo

06-04-2010, 11:35 PM

but Lordy, how can we protect ourselves then? mayb you can enlighten us?
gtl, you may get the following replies or answers from few highly intelligence forumers:

1. it's your fate and accept it even you may get robbed or parang. you signed up for this development of non-GnG when u bought the property. freedom to access and legal compliance is above all including your security.
2. set up or join in a neighbourhood watch. resign your job or give up your biz to start patrolling at daytime as most break-in's were happened at daytime. it's ok if you kena whack kau kau by thiefs and thugs in the interest of freedom to access
3. relocate to other place with proper and legal GnG even this will cost you an arm and a leg ($$$$)
4. stop paying to the RA's and bring the RA's to court at all costs for blocking your accessibility. the hazard of oil drums is more menacing than thiefs.
5. Pray to the Lord

:D :D

nona

07-04-2010, 08:35 AM

wallaweee boo boo :D ...you must be walking high in sky thinking that you had caught us with pants down.

You are absolutely right on all the 'suggestions'. Do all that and more. I hope you understand it is not really my problem that if you are doing a million dollar business but want to leave in low cost area so that you can pay lower assessment, lower utility bills and cry foul at government every time lift goes wrong.

In fact you know what I got no problems if you want to hire a guard to escort you to and fro everywhere and make him sit infront of your house gate day in day out and night in and night out---3 shifts a day.

But don't expect others to chip in as well for your whims and fancies. That's what happening here --- if the cost RM 10 k a month and you are to selfish wanting it and but cheap pay for it....so make the rest 10 of the pay it @ RM 1k/month or better still use any form of tactic to make all 100 pay for it @ RM 100/month.

Please understand I am not going to sacrifice my rights to feed your needs running to Mat Bangla or Mat Nepal ....every time people scream BOOOOOO....

driftingrover

07-04-2010, 09:12 AM

driftingrover

07-04-2010, 09:15 AM

lord

if u r reading this, pm me, i can't seem to pm u

boo_boo

07-04-2010, 10:40 AM

you must be walking high in sky ......
hahaha...you are right....i am in Cameron Highlands and above 5k feet above sea level now.

you shud come up here to unwind yourself.....smell the flowers, breath the fresh cold air, sip the best cameronian boh tea, listening to soothing music, greetings to people around us.....what a refreshing world!

yang simply bo-chap....Boo Boo (that's the name for my Rotweiler) :D :D

SCCheah

07-04-2010, 10:47 AM

Who needs guards when you have such a fierce dog?

Having dogs including pariah breed helps. However, better not have a Golden Retriever like I once did - too lovable (wags its tail and so friendly) and grow too fast for a terrace house. I have to give it away (now roaming in the big open hills of Berjaya Hills) to a vet for free.

boo_boo

07-04-2010, 10:59 AM

My Rottweiler passed away 1 year ago. :cool:

nona

07-04-2010, 11:57 AM

hahaha...you are right....i am in Cameron Highlands and above 5k feet above sea level now.

you shud come up here to unwind yourself.....smell the flowers, breath the fresh cold air, sip the best cameronian boh tea, listening to soothing music, greetings to people around us.....what a refreshing world!

yang simply bo-chap....Boo Boo (that's the name for my Rotweiler) :D :D

coming coming second week of May after my son's exam....of course hopefully no fencing everywhere, oil drums and boom gates everywhere. Jumpa you di sana!!! :cool: :D

lord

08-04-2010, 05:37 PM

but Lordy, how can we protect ourselves then? mayb you can enlighten us?

Start with a committed neighbourhood watch. If you are concern about safety, go and do that first. USJ/SJ had that many years ago. Everyone came out in full force, in the beginning. It took a natural death. Why??

Can you imagine, if all these so called pro GnG guys were to pool the same effort and committment into NW, I can't imagine why it can fail. And if you have done that, you would have shown your concern for safety. Not by blocking roads and stuff, man. That's not fairplay.

Don't put the safety of your family in the hands of a foreigner who can hardly have a decent conversation with you. I have passed through a 'block' by telling the nepalese guard, "Pergi curi kereta!". He smiled and removed the cone. Don't believe me, try it.

lord

08-04-2010, 05:48 PM

After 'fighting' for a proper Balai Polis, raising money or donating 2 Kembara's and 5 motorcycles, why are we still 'feeding' our police? I'm talking about the one in USJ. Why not have a dialogue with them and pressure them to work harder? I don't need a police officer to come and smile for photoshoots at shopping malls.

Why doesn't our very very lovely, amiable, YOUNG, soft-spoken, very likeable by everyone ADUN address issues with our cops? Why doesn't she press the panic button with her leaders and peers to bring out this matter in the DUN and parliament? Why is she hiding behind and silently supporting something that is downright illegal? Why is the councillors appointed by her also fan this illegal scheme? Is there "something-something" going on that we don't know yet??? Well, at the rate they are working, I'm made to believe there's something really going on between them and the RAs.

Don't support blindly. We have our rights and they are suppose to SERVE us. Push them. Make them work. Get them to honour their promises.

Jennylim

08-06-2010, 11:52 AM

BN government limits our freedom to do legitimate business!
Pakatan government - limits our freedom to move about in USJ!

"Having said everything against the F&G, I felt so sorry for the 'guard' who was sitting under a small umbrella in the afternoon some time last week while it poured cats and dogs. Honestly, I felt bad for the guy. He had his 2 knees up to his chin while trying his level best with the umbrella to keep himself away from the pouring rain. There were no guard-post, nothing or nowhere for him to take shelter. This is the kind of thought that has been put into by the so-called RA groups responsible."

LORD, I am annoyed and ashamed of these Malaysians, the way they treat these guards. they don't deserve security. After working for some years under such condition the guards might fall really ill and what ever they earned may not be sufficient to treat they illness. What will happen to their family members? These Malaysian are taking advantage of the foreigners, they should ask themselves, would they allow their own children to work under such condition!

What they are doing is basically living a so called "safer life" on other peoples' suffering!

SCCheah

10-06-2010, 11:21 AM

Read the following:

http://usjeleventrees.blogspot.com/

USJ 11/3 and its other USJ11 areas are having lots of dengue cases, burglary, vandalism cases etc There is even a recent case of a dead body being found!

There were recent reports of cars being splashed with paints too. Wow!

What's happening there?! Isn't this supposed to be the infamous "fortress" of USJ/Subang Jaya and probably the No. 1 caged prison in the country?
Weren't the pro-GnG Ra and their supporters so proud of their GnG?

Any comments?

I have been away and prefer to take part in Star's Citizen's Blog for the following reasons:

(1) Moderator more professional, matured and fairer: Very offending, irrelevant remarks etc did not even see the light of day - they were merely not published by Star's professionally-trained moderators. No need to issue bananas or banning someone to the plantation.

(2) The standard of arguments and English also improving. Less heckling and flaming remarks from old bulldogs.

(3) More friendship and show of respect. No frenzied hentam-only characters who try to bait others into another argument.

(4) More matured topics of discussion (generally).

However, as a USJ resident, I feel I would be failing in my duty not to report what is happening in USJ 11. So I appear here again to inform forummers here of what I read in USJ 11 Trees.

It seems that they are getting so paranoid that they now want to issue everyone with car stickers including temporary stickers on outsiders - like those sending their kids to kindergartens there.

I also find it very strange why anyone would want to splash paint there? Is it because some residents are so angry with the GnG that they have to vent their suppressed wrath this way? BTW they even have CCTVs and yet this sort of things happened!

I have always said that if you try to do something illegal like barricading an open concept neighbourhood without the support of everyone, then it would one day cause a lot of unhappiness and misunderstanding.

A friend of mine who resides in USJ 3 c omplained to me that he is very annoyed with the high-handed manner of some over-zealous people in his neighbourhood.

A really sad case of selfish people caring only for their own safety but sacrificing neighbourhood harmony.

kwchang

10-06-2010, 11:51 AM

...and flaming remarks from old bulldogs....
This is name-calling

SCCheah

10-06-2010, 12:25 PM

As expected - swift on the draw! Ha ! Ha!

jan tomaswaki

10-06-2010, 05:47 PM

This is name-calling
iF BULLFROG is a name calling what about "katak","frog" etc...Chang i think the punishment is a bit overboard :(

SCCheah

10-06-2010, 06:04 PM

Thanks Jan but aiyah, what do you expect?

That's why everyone already tahu lah!

Let it be - punish lah! When he argues with that @#$%@#!!, how come no banana. Ha! Ha!

Anyway, banana or no banana that's unimportant - on a serious note- let us all look at USJ 11.

Ask yourself deep, deep in your heart (I am not asking you to like me or agree with me) - what is HAPPENING there??!

There's GnG but suddenly even more break-ins,even more dengue. Coincidence?

That particular neigbhourhood seems to be breaking down - on the verge of rebellion if I dare say. They have admitted (if you read their comments carefully), that residents are starting to ask why they should have GnG when crimes still happen - one after another?

Inside job, guards not doing enough, place too quiet now without police patrol thus inviting bad hats there or is it that some of the vandalism (like splashing paints) were committed by disgruntled residents fed-up of the RA and the GnG?

As I have said before, eventually there will be rebellion from within their very own group and this is not good for the overall USJ/Subang Jaya community!

jan tomaswaki

11-06-2010, 01:49 PM

To all pro G n G members,just a suggestion maybe you only charge RM10 per car in a household maybe non members will pay.My friend from one place in Cheras also had difficulty in persuading all owners to pay RM70 p/mth.then the per car in a household RM10 all pay up! :D

nona

29-07-2010, 06:19 PM

...the arguement of pro and con is still going on and on....

The arguements are getting so simplistic just for the sake of winning an arguement. And again for the sake of winning an arguement USJ is made to sound as if it the Killing Fields of Cambodia.

I guess FEAR takes the worse out of people...turning friends into foes. Despite all that there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

Thinking very hard for a solution to have safe neighboured the kind that you can walk around without watching over shoulder?